Woman 'ordered to marry rapist'
An Indian woman who was allegedly raped by her father-in-law is now being ordered by a Muslim council of community elders to marry him.
The council says under Islamic law the rape has nullified her marriage, according to media reports.
But a top Muslim body in India has rejected the argument saying it is not valid under Sharia (Islamic) law.
It says the council was not authorised to give such a verdict and added that the alleged rapist should be punished.
Reports say the 28-year-old woman was raped when she was alone at home in Charthawal, in the norther Indian state of Uttar Pradesh.
When the incident came to the notice of the council, it ordered that she marry her father-in-law and change her relationship with her husband to that between a mother and son.
It also ordered her to leave her home and stay away for seven month and 10 days to become "pure".
A senior police officer, Amrinder Singh Senger, told the BBC that police have now filed a case against the woman's father-in-law .
Under the Sharia law... if her father-in-law has raped her, he should be sentenced to death
Zafarab Geelani
The victim has also been examined by doctors and police have recorded her statement.
India's National Commission of Women has also asked for a report from the government in the state of Uttar Pradesh, where the incident took place.
"We have requested the government to take action against the guilty and also pay compensation to the victim," NCW president Girija Vyas told the BBC.
A representative of a top Muslim body in India, the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, said the case should be dealt under Islamic law.
"Under the Sharia law, whatever happened with the victim is wrong and if her father-in-law has raped her, he should be sentenced to death," the representative, Zafarab Geelani, said.
I guess you've made n0obie mad, nice going there. I'm sure he'll make you pay. Meantime, you will now find this topic in the News section.
marry her rapist?
thats just plain wrong
They are relating a region with near africa living conditions (which means the average man has greater grieve, resentments mistrust etc) and use their "islamic decision" without making it ultimately clear that it isn't abiding islam. They simply present an argument at the end.
Islamically, as the end states, the man should be sentenced to death.
I like to again, condemn the structure of the article for lack of an ultimate confirmation of the islamic war. Quite misleading and outline a certain hint of biasness.
*Sigh*, those third world/religious countries, when will they ever be civilized?
ok does anyone else get irritated with nolivers posts???
ahh is there someway to warn me before I click on them
how about this noliver can u put like... Copyed News or something at the beginning of each new topic?
well, im a muslim and in our religion if you rape someone liek that then you are sentenced to death because if you want to have sex then you would have to be married to that person its the only way otherwise its a death penalty under islamic laws. I think that he should get the death scentence because that was just wrong.
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I did a project on this (Im christian) on other religions and my sources said in Jordan and Syria and places like that some of the religions were if u raped someone you could marry them and it would nullyfy (or ignore) the fact that u did but then u could just divorce them so... the girl gets hurt three times
thats untrue. It won't be nullified. At least religiously. And i doubt Jurisdically as they follow the Shariah law. Do quote a source.
well theses guys who gave the verdict that she sholuld no longer stay with her husband dont know that as per islam if u rape a woman u must be stoned to death.
well theres a new twist now. the council says she was never raped and these are false allegations to get control of some property.
Now who will do this to get control over a piece of land 
I don't see that there's any need to stone someone to death... in several hundred years of civilisation the religion of Islam must have at least come up with some new and inventive ways of killing people...
This whole story just highlights the startling discrepancy between the lives of the rich and poor in India, and how the archaic traditions are still being followed in the supposedly 'Westernised' country.
This piece of news is still going alive in the daily papers.
Well, this is an isolated case, happening in a remote village of India (the name of the village is still unheard of)
Isolated cases like these happen in every country........there's no escaping from the evil intentions of the most dangerous creature on earth ---> THE HUMAN BEING
Coming back to the story, there's been some more news on it...........As babu has rightly said here, there has been no rape.........The woman has accused her father-in-law of rape, in order to prevent the sale of their property, which was being conducted.
| Highwayman wrote: |
| supposedly 'Westernised' country. |
Supposedly westernized country ? rubbish. yes, we've been developing at a pretty good rate, but we're far from westernized.
And unfortunately, the development has been restricted mostly to cities and urban areas 
, while the rural villages still live by centuries-old tradition. There is one head of the village - The Village Elder - and pretty much anything he says goes... 
I know it's wrong.
Anyway, don't judge the whole country based on isolated incidents. In the cities, we're fine. 
to tidrug
what you mean saying fine?? if you mean 7 cents/hour are good money, then i have no comments on that..
| snedan wrote: |
to tidrug
what you mean saying fine?? if you mean 7 cents/hour are good money, then i have no comments on that.. |
huh? didn't quite get what you meant...
i mean, if you mean that there's major unemployment or that people are getting jobs for very low wages, then i agree with you.
what i meant by saying that we're fine is that judicially, we seem to be ok in the cities... and that people don't normally get duped the way they do in the villages...
i mean, i know of this incident where a man duped an entire village and rubbed his hands all over the womens' breasts claiming that he was a holy man, and that he would bring ferility to the infertile women of the village... well, he was arrested finally. (but even when he was being arrested, it was quite disheartening to see that the villagers he'd duped were actually trying to protect him and keep him from getting duped )this issue is just wrong... gettin away with it is just plain wrong!
I really think thats just wrong
Why marry the rapist? O man.. i can't find any reasons why she would..
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Yes that really wrong, and at the same time sad for her, i think they need to have a look at some of there rules, i know its part of there religion but still thats just 100% wierd.
I would hate to be her!
| Ashley wrote: |
Yes that really wrong, and at the same time sad for her, i think they need to have a look at some of there rules, i know its part of there religion but still thats just 100% wierd.
I would hate to be her! |
Yep.... couldn't agree more. | snedan wrote: |
to tidrug
what you mean saying fine?? if you mean 7 cents/hour are good money, then i have no comments on that.. |
Where did u get those figures?
7 cents/hr comes to around 750 rupees a month................thats around the average salary we pay to our maidservant.
and besides, we spend in rupees too........so its no use comparing currency rates here. | noliver wrote: |
Woman 'ordered to marry rapist'
An Indian woman who was allegedly raped by her father-in-law is now being ordered by a Muslim council of community elders to marry him.
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She is not allowed to marry her father in law at all cases :
so that couldnt have happened <and if it could < this council should be called
a Mad Council of Community
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The council says under Islamic law the rape has nullified her marriage, according to media reports. |
noneislamic rules say that "you must marry who rapes you" but some people do that for some reasons like ther is nobody prefer to marry a raped girl so her family try to marry her to the rapist and thats wrongI feel sorry for the woman. That is sooooo wrong.. Instead of going to jail, he was to marry her? If I were her, I would make his life hell forever for that.
...and a follow-up question-- if they punish this crime differently, does this mean that women are officialy unequal under Islamic law? Why have the women not rebelled yet? :whistle:
It's interesting to see what is considered acceptable or normal in other cultures.
Personally, I think if she doesn't get proper justice, she should probably go bobbit...
But as a personal opinion, I think all brutal rapists should be castrated, if they rape more than, say... 2-3 times or so...
| Highwayman wrote: |
I don't see that there's any need to stone someone to death... in several hundred years of civilisation the religion of Islam must have at least come up with some new and inventive ways of killing people...
This whole story just highlights the startling discrepancy between the lives of the rich and poor in India, and how the archaic traditions are still being followed in the supposedly 'Westernised' country. |
The religion of islam has sets of rules and laws that are eternal, for all times to come, and the thing behind stoning to death is to give a strong message to others that raping a woman is one of the worst crimes that cud b comitted by mankind coz when a person dies he/she dies but when one is raped and has still a lot of years to live then its worse than death...and theres wisdom behind every law that was made more then 1400 years ago , and what islam revealed several hundered years ago modern scientific discoveries are unveiling it today, so dont u think that islamic traditions are just a set of archaic rules when you havent really studied them....To us in the west, that just sounds completely and utteryly ludicrous! But I bet there's even weirder things happening elsewhere.. *sigh*
*shakes fist at humanity's tact for difference and extremes!*
The last time I read about this, the offender had been sentenced to life imprisonment by the court of law. he has been arrested and is in jail.
| tidruG wrote: |
| But as a personal opinion, I think all brutal rapists should be castrated, if they rape more than, say... 2-3 times or so... |
You're far too kind... I would've said after the first offense. 2 or 3 times then they need to be shot in the head and hung in the middle of a town. | shr3dd wrote: |
| tidruG wrote: | | But as a personal opinion, I think all brutal rapists should be castrated, if they rape more than, say... 2-3 times or so... |
You're far too kind... I would've said after the first offense. 2 or 3 times then they need to be shot in the head and hung in the middle of a town. |
Would you rather live castrated or die? I'd rather die. So... 
Urgh... I've had it with fundimentalist religions and I'm not afriad to say it. (This article http://www.sundayherald.com/50943 pretty much sums up what I feel.) I think the new British censorship laws are a load of poop. Dude, i'm with you all the way. I can't stand fundamentalist religions either. I can't believe that they're making the woman marry her rapist. That's treating the woman like cow sh*t.
I would rather die, yes, but I wouldn't rape anyone. And would you really let the rapist have what he'd like to have? The point of punishment is suffering to learn a lesson. Rape is seriously messed up and I think rapists should suffer a great deal.
| shr3dd wrote: |
| I would rather die, yes, but I wouldn't rape anyone. And would you really let the rapist have what he'd like to have? The point of punishment is suffering to learn a lesson. Rape is seriously messed up and I think rapists should suffer a great deal. |
Yes, punishment and suffering. But once you're dead, you're neither being punished nor are you suffering any more. That was my idea behind the castration.marry her rapist?
thats just plain wrong
couldn't agree more.
| Highwayman wrote: |
| I don't see that there's any need to stone someone to death... in several hundred years of civilisation the religion of Islam must have at least come up with some new and inventive ways of killing people... |
No, their 'progressive' society has been stuck in the dark ages and I don't see them getting their cart out of the mud anytime soon.
| bluffmango wrote: |
| The religion of islam has sets of rules and laws that are eternal |
Except for the exceptions to the fasting conditions.
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| the thing behind stoning to death is to give a strong message to others that raping a woman is one of the worst crimes |
I guess your eternal rules are still a little new for some people.
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| one is raped and has still a lot of years to live then its worse than death |
surely you're not making an argument in favor of suicide are you?
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| what islam revealed several hundered years ago modern scientific discoveries are unveiling it today |
yes, the forensics of high temperature incineration are interesting. Or did you have a dozen other examples in mind?
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| dont u think that islamic traditions are just a set of archaic rules when you havent really studied them.... |
No, they have no business calling themselves archaic. Anarchistic or anachronistic perhaps, but more likely the former.
And yes, I have spent time reading through the koran. The frequent diametric contradiction is tedious.The extreme religion is wrong, looked like the belief the strength is great
| OnlyOneLife wrote: |
| *Sigh*, those third world/religious countries, when will they ever be civilized? |
Actually, India is not a hard line religious country. Just that we do not have a uniform civil code. There are different laws for hindus, muslims. If you are a hindu and rape someone and if you are convicted, then the punishments are very severe... | devadutta wrote: |
| OnlyOneLife wrote: | | *Sigh*, those third world/religious countries, when will they ever be civilized? |
Actually, India is not a hard line religious country. Just that we do not have a uniform civil code. There are different laws for hindus, muslims. If you are a hindu and rape someone and if you are convicted, then the punishments are very severe... |
That's not true.... all punishments and all must be given according only to the Constitution... at least, technically... however, if the people involved themselves decide not to file any complaint with the legal authorities, and choose instead to get matter resolved with religious laws, there's nothing that can be done... If any man (whether he's Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh, or of any other religion wahtsoever) has commited a crime, he should technically get punishment as stated in the Constitution.
