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Mac's first virus





Neo7
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/osx.leap.a.html

It had to happen sometime.
n0obie4life
hah see!

Macs aren't the safest things. Neither are linux machines!
gr3gg3r
Well if you think about it, if this is the first virus for Macintosh, and it has been out for almost 20 years or so, they have done a great job! I mean there aren't a large majority of users out there on Macs, but still, Macintosh still seems to be growing. Plus the release of the new Macs with the Intel processors will surely change the market place dramatically. Smile
djared90
While I like to say that Windows is a very buggy and insecure piece of software, part of the reason that there are so many viruses for it is that so many people around the world use it.

About 90% of all computers use some form of Windows, while about 3.5% use Mac and 3.3% use Linux (source). The virus writers are going to target the operating systems that the most people use, which in this case is Windows. With the recent migrations from Windows to Mac and Linux, though, we are going to start seeing more and more holes exploited in these operating systems.
Blaster
I don't like macs at all. But I don't belive that this is only the first one. I think there have been more. The only thing that has kept mac in there bussiness is there IPods.
shadedflame
A MAC is an OS, apple is the company, yes apple has been doing very well for itself, its always the first to come out with something, like the i-pod, personal computer, and or laptop computers, laptops and ipods have kept them sucesful, but its not the oly thing thats been keeping them going.
root
n0obie4life wrote:
hah see!

Macs aren't the safest things. Neither are linux machines!


yes, they actually are
Nyizsa
Well... You have to accept that the virus downloads to your computer, then you have to expand it, then you have to run it... not a quite sophisticated one, but it is OK as a first step. Smile Reminds me of a joke-email: "Hello, I am a slightly underdeveloped virus. Please delete your three most important files from your harddisk. Thank you."
Personally I find it strange when you receive a 2 GB file from your friend over an instant messaging software and you don't ask him what he wanted to send you.
root
really, the only thing a virus is exploiting, is the lack of human intelligence. when there will be a major increase of exploits on posix systems (which there will be) there wont be any noticable effect because if you are knowledgeable enough to use a posix system, then you should be knowledgeable enough to avoid "contracting" viri
2000 Man
Unless you do MAJOR audio or visual editing Macs are pretty much useless in my opinion. Now they're flaunting Intel chips....woo hoo....Intel is almost as useless as Mac. A PC with an AMD is the way to go...
benwhite
Blaster wrote:
I don't like macs at all. But I don't belive that this is only the first one. I think there have been more. The only thing that has kept mac in there bussiness is there IPods.


If that were the case, how did apple survive for a few decades before the iPod came out...?

Perhaps you meant to say the recent growth and their popularity stems from the success of the ipod. Which is just another way of saying that Apple's design and marketing people did things right.
KHO
And the mac 9 prevails again Neutral OS X was bound to get one, once they start making it so that more than photoshop works on it, then you are bound to get a virus as l see it Neutral.
Jack_Hammer
Macs have lots of viruses, there is no first one, but they are safer than Windowz and Micro$oft.
foggy
Jack_Hammer wrote:
Macs have lots of viruses, there is no first one, but they are safer than Windowz and Micro$oft.
This is, though, the first "worm" (debatable) that has been seen in the wild on a Mac.
testoo
I've got an iMac which has never been virused!
I think the UNIX core system (on Linux and OS X) is the safest in the world!
But there isn't a lot of viruses on Mac and Linux just because only a few people are using them..
I haven't got any viruses yet and i don't think it will ever begin...
Saber
sigh... this is why I dont like how they are switching to intel. Thats the only reason why it works..
Bengt
n0obie4life wrote:
hah see!

Macs aren't the safest things. Neither are linux machines!

I just want to add a little something.
Nothing is safe at the moment. Virusses can be made very strong and so are some hackers (im not talking about scriptkiddies lol Laughing )
Saber
There is something that also needs to be read about this,
Quote:
The news media are excitedly reporting on the "first Mac OS X virus."

They have not done their homework.

At best, the OSX.Leap.A (or Oompa Loompa, as it’s also known), is a trojan that needs a lot of user help in order to work. It does not exploit a hole in the OS. At best, it exploits a hole in the user.

The USER must download the file named "latestpics.tgz," either by accepting a Bonjour iChat attached file, downloading through an eMail attached file, or go looking for it on the internet. The only way you can get the Leap-A malware on your machine is if you take some action to put it there yourself. You cannot get the malware by simply browsing the Internet, reading e-mail, or chatting with friends in iChat. Leap-A is not a true virus, in that it cannot spread from machine to machine without human intervention.
- Once downloaded, the USER must double click the compressed archive "latestpics.tgz" in order to expand it.
- Once expanded, the USER must double click on it in order to run it.
- The USER must enter an Administrator Password in order to install it as an application.
- When installed, a Terminal Window appears.
- Once installed, this malware spreads via iChat Bonjour, but,
- The USER must run iChat Bonjour on a network, not internet iChat (it spreads through iChat Bonjour, which runs on a closed network, not on the internet).
- The USER must agree to send the file (by default, iChat Bonjour requires the user to confirm when sending files).
- The RECEIVER must agree to accept the attached file.
- The RECEIVER must double click the compressed archive to expand it, double click to run it, enter an Administrator Password, and so on.


Or read more here, http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/02/17/leapafollow/index.php
Neo7
The number 1 reason why Windows is a bit more buggy than Mac is the fact that Windows has a pretty much open source with their OS. Any hacker can go in, find the exploits, and attack through those. The reason why they have it open is so that programmers can develop various applications for the OS.

Mac's on the other hand keeps their source closed (much more secure but less programs available) and is harder to find the vunerable points to exploit them. You'd have to find a leaked source or leak them out yourself before you can even think of how to attack a Mac computer.
raman
Ya, I read about this on another forum and it was bound to happen sooner or later. I guess no OS is ever safe from viruses.
Vrythramax
It's about time. Windows may not be the best OS in town, but I'll still take it over a MAC anyday of the week.

Not to mention software is much easier to find for windows than it is for MAC. I could be wrong on that, I have never looked for software for MAC.
elpriceisright
You know I happen to be a huge computer dork. The first computer to ever have a virus (or rather a bug) was the Mark II. A very old computer, it was still running on vacuum tubes (sorta big lightbulbs) to run very simple operations (like addition.) The first bug was a moth which got caught in a vacuum tube an shorted it out.

I'm not joking.
Jack_Hammer
Your talking about this...

Quote:
First Computer Bug

The Bug

In 1945, Grace Murray Hopper was working on the Harvard University Mark II Aiken Relay Calculator (a primitive computer).

On the 9th of September, 1945, when the machine was experiencing problems, an investigation showed that there was a moth trapped between the points of Relay #70, in Panel F.

The operators removed the moth and affixed it to the log. (See the picture above.) The entry reads: "First actual case of bug being found."

(See the link at the bottom of this page for a much larger version of this picture.)

The word went out that they had "debugged" the machine and the term "debugging a computer program" was born.

Although Grace Hopper was always careful to admit that she was not there when it actually happened, it was one of her favorite stories...


Taken from http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/first_computer_bug.htm
TonkPilz
i remeber reading in a computer world magazin a few years ago about viruses and some ppl hade found a virus for mac on a underground ftp server it whas still un-finished tho and thay did find a hacking utillety for linux but that whas also un-finished donno if it true tho.

but im sure that ther hafto have bean some one trying to do a virus for mac before to day
Marston
I believe I speak for all Windows users when I say:

TAKE THAT, MAC USERS. NOT SO HIGH AND MIGHTY NOW, ARE YOU?
Tasa
This is far from the 1st, the simple fact is like other people have pointed out people who try and hack and write viruses are going to target the major which means Windows. As Mac's market share increases you will start to see a lot of these things pop up. Of course I truely think that in a few years the differances between PC and MAC will only be the face we see. It will be the same software in the background.

This will be good because you get the face you want with the software you need.
Saber
Marston wrote:
I believe I speak for all Windows users when I say:

TAKE THAT, MAC USERS. NOT SO HIGH AND MIGHTY NOW, ARE YOU?


... ok,
Quote:
The only way you can get the Leap-A malware on your machine is if you take some action to put it there yourself.You cannot get the malware by simply browsing the Internet, reading e-mail, or chatting with friends in iChat. Leap-A is not a true virus, in that it cannot spread from machine to machine without human intervention.


so its allready not really a "virus" as most people think of them, unlike a windows where you are able to get things just by running ie when connected to the internet, etc, .... It still needs, the person to expand it, run it, enter the admin password, install it, Run another program to have any effect.... Now I hope that people are that sad to have to TRY to put this on the computer and have it "work". It cant spred... you have to download it your self.. Now there are some people that still would do this... and if they do, wow.. it does nothing... So, how does this lower macs?
ZaiLH
hard to be safe these days : )
Sharkbite86
djared90 wrote:
While I like to say that Windows is a very buggy and insecure piece of software, part of the reason that there are so many viruses for it is that so many people around the world use it.

About 90% of all computers use some form of Windows, while about 3.5% use Mac and 3.3% use Linux (source). The virus writers are going to target the operating systems that the most people use, which in this case is Windows. With the recent migrations from Windows to Mac and Linux, though, we are going to start seeing more and more holes exploited in these operating systems.


That is a VERY common view among non-mac computer users. The fact is, that even if the mac is a smaller target you would think there would be the same, or close to the same, % of attacks on macs as windows. This is not happening. In fact the mac has only ever gotten a few viruses in its whole lifetime! Yes the mac is not perfect, yes the mac is a smaller target, but if you look at the numbers i would say apple has done a pretty damn good job with all that.
Here is a link to prove my point:
http://macslash.org/comments.pl?sid=5558&cid=98128

That being said however, I can see darker days ahead for apple in the virus war... I fear that this virus will be like a calling to all hackers and virus makers alike that the mac is not impenetrable.

But, apple has an excellent thing going for it; that is the fact that they make the software AND the hardware. This makes it a LOT easier keeping on top of updates and the like...

This is all coming from a Mac user so take it as fact or toss it as crap (hehe that kinda rhymes)
Sharkbite86
Tasa wrote:
...Of course I truely think that in a few years the differances between PC and MAC will only be the face we see. It will be the same software in the background.

This will be good because you get the face you want with the software you need.


I highly doubt that... at least not for a very long while...

And BTW its not MAC ppl its Mac.... MAC is a network connection term, Mac is the computer, short for Macintosh... Rolling Eyes
unexplained
btw yday there was one more atttack on mac using blutooth devices ..
it was on CNN last night .. bound to happen sometime and finally happned
AffroThund3r
I think Macs are awesome, having had first hand experience I would say that this is not the first virus for them. I've had trojans on my old machines!

I must say I am now on Windows after University and doing a number of programming assignments that were easier to do on the PC.

When I come to changing my machine I will seriously consider a MAC as opposed to building a PC or upgrading.
ocalhoun
Marston wrote:
I believe I speak for all Windows users when I say:

TAKE THAT, MAC USERS. NOT SO HIGH AND MIGHTY NOW, ARE YOU?

Linux users as well...
teamkr
im suprised this has not happened sooner....
Platform
Marston wrote:
I believe I speak for all Windows users when I say:

TAKE THAT, MAC USERS. NOT SO HIGH AND MIGHTY NOW, ARE YOU?


Actually I do, OS X still rocks.

The OS looks better the machine looks better, the machine takes up less space, it is quiet, the apps are great...etc Cool
Sharkbite86
unexplained wrote:
btw yday there was one more atttack on mac using blutooth devices ..
it was on CNN last night .. bound to happen sometime and finally happned


all about it:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/02/17/inqtana/index.php?lsrc=mwrss
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