I know in america most cars are auto trans, but in europe, i hear it's mostly stick. So if the cars in europe are stick, do many girls/women/females drive stick there too??
Girls and stick
I'm from USA and i drive stick
but i'm a dud so i guess it doesn't matter.
but i'm a dud so i guess it doesn't matter.
Driving a "stick" is only difficult in very large trucks. (Where the clutch spring offers considerable resistance.)
Nonetheless, I use an automatic as I would rather not be bothered with it.
Nonetheless, I use an automatic as I would rather not be bothered with it.
"Drive stick"? Sounds a bit strange. I'd have never figured out its meaning if I hadn't read this thread! 
I went to Germany, Italy and Switzerland when I was 21. I can attest that there were plenty of women there that drove stick.
Thanks and good night...
Thanks and good night...
Well here in South Africa most of the cars have a manual transmission, and yes majority of women drive stick. THis however has its downsides, like the B.W.C.D. experience. ( black woman can't drive.)
Well I suppose this is a diffificult problem, because women aren't capable of driving with a manual. It just uses too much intelligence. This is why they stand on street corners, and look for rides. Of course car rides don't come free.
| Rhubarb wrote: |
| THis however has its downsides, like the B.W.C.D. experience. ( black woman can't drive.) |
Foolishness. Hesitate before spouting it.
I drive an automatic, and yes I am a man. I think it comes down to a matter of preference.
People the world over drive a stick and some even drive an automatic, I don't think it comes down to a woman, or a man for that matter, driving a stick or an automatic.
I will however conceed that some countries tend to lean towards a stick....they are easier to stop in an emergency, which is not to say that is the reason they drive them.
Preference rules.
People the world over drive a stick and some even drive an automatic, I don't think it comes down to a woman, or a man for that matter, driving a stick or an automatic.
I will however conceed that some countries tend to lean towards a stick....they are easier to stop in an emergency, which is not to say that is the reason they drive them.
Preference rules.
lots of american women know how to drive a stick.....they sure can drive that stick hard!
They definitely know how to put their hands around the stick and pound it into gear.
i've never experienced a european woman driving a stick but i'd sure like to experience that!
They definitely know how to put their hands around the stick and pound it into gear.
i've never experienced a european woman driving a stick but i'd sure like to experience that!
evilryu, that's a little over the top wtih sexual inuendoes, possibly, i should've used standard transmission to assure my message is more clear.
Just for the European, are the majority of cars standard or automatic transmission??
Just for the European, are the majority of cars standard or automatic transmission??
| Jeslyn wrote: |
| Well I suppose this is a diffificult problem, because women aren't capable of driving with a manual. It just uses too much intelligence. This is why they stand on street corners, and look for rides. Of course car rides don't come free. |
Brava Jeslyn,
Great come back. Love your sarcasm and dry wit.
In Europe the majority of the cars are with manual shift. I think it gives you more flexibility in driving, as you don't depend on predefined settings choosing your ratio. Plus it is much cheaper to repair...
ocalhoun:
Trucks have the servo things. (I think you may call it "power clutch" or something.)
Jeslyn:
Very nice, I liked that one...
Anyway, my wife drives very well. But I (and she also!) think that most of the women just can't drive in reverse. Some of them even states that they never use reverse gear.
ocalhoun:
Trucks have the servo things. (I think you may call it "power clutch" or something.)
Jeslyn:
Very nice, I liked that one...
Anyway, my wife drives very well. But I (and she also!) think that most of the women just can't drive in reverse. Some of them even states that they never use reverse gear.
Yeah alot of wemon can drive stick, its not really hard at all.
believe me, driving stick is not that tough. and personally i will always prefer manual over auto transmission. whether its because there isnt auto trans in our country, or that i dont prefer it, i dont know. but somehow, i get the "feeling" of driving a car only when i get to shift gears manually..
i feel ancient
i feel ancient
driving stick is basic here lol
I learnt driving a few months back, and have been driving since then (driving licenses are given when you reach 18 in India, irrespective of sex). I've never driven automatic transmission yet, but I like having manual transmission.... I must be a looney.
PS: BTW, I'm a guy.
PS: BTW, I'm a guy.
Most young drivers in the UK, males and females drive cars with manual gearboxes, or with stick as it is usually cheaper to get cars with manual transmission here.
Im currently learning to drive with a manual car and it isnt really that hard.
Im currently learning to drive with a manual car and it isnt really that hard.
driving a large truck isn't that bad.... if you know when to shift you don't even use the clutch except to start out... a manual transmission gives you better fuel mileage, better performance, and just plain sounds cool when you rifle through the gears lol...
learning is a bit tough, but once you get the hang of it, it becomes very natural... i had to teach my ex wife how to drive a standard the hard way. She refused to learn, claiming it was too difficult. one day we were driving home so she could watch a tv program she really wanted to see. We were still about 8 miles from the house, when i simply pulled over and got out. i told her if she wanted to watch her show, she had to drive home.
After some bitching and griping, she finally tried, and by the time she got home, she was doing pretty good already. since then, she prefers standard over automatic, and says it feels stupid to drive anyting other than a a stick shift.
learning is a bit tough, but once you get the hang of it, it becomes very natural... i had to teach my ex wife how to drive a standard the hard way. She refused to learn, claiming it was too difficult. one day we were driving home so she could watch a tv program she really wanted to see. We were still about 8 miles from the house, when i simply pulled over and got out. i told her if she wanted to watch her show, she had to drive home.
After some bitching and griping, she finally tried, and by the time she got home, she was doing pretty good already. since then, she prefers standard over automatic, and says it feels stupid to drive anyting other than a a stick shift.
Well in my country there isn't such a thing as an automatic. So everybody has to learn manual. Besides, only at 18 you get the license, but many even thirteen or fourteen-year-olds know how to drive already.
IMHO it doesn't really matter how you drive as long as your fine with both if it comes down to it, but otherwise just your preferance and how easy you find it to drive with one or the other, personally I want a device (I can't remember the name now) but it uses two clutches (So it's always in the right position to move up or down a gear) so it quickly and smoothely changes and it just uses a couple of buttons and up and a down on the sterring wheel. Which I feel is so much easier, though the problem with auto gears is that in emergancy situations it is not quick enough to respond.
Where I come from we have mostly what you call the shift stick drive and I don't know any girl who has problem with them.
Yes, they do drive with a "stick".Its not as difficult as you thing.I am not one, but i can see that they manage to do it pretty well...I believe that driving with a stick can be a lot better in many occasions...For example, when you want to get infront of an other car:with a stick, you can lower the "i don't know how its translated", so the car runs faster for a sort time, enough time to pass the other car.Without one, this is not very possible.It also has many other uses, and much more advandages, that the auto-ones don't...
And i thought this was a thread about girls and 8ball.
In Australia it's about half/half for the girls.
But guys can't really get away with driving an auto, much to girly.
Also all the old grannies drive manuals (stick).
In Australia it's about half/half for the girls.
But guys can't really get away with driving an auto, much to girly.
Also all the old grannies drive manuals (stick).
automatic isnt driving a car, its riding. to drive a car you need manual
Where I come from we have mostly what you call the shift stick drive and I don't know any girl who has problem with them.
We have plenty of sexist and racist comments in this one. But I like to drive a manual as it gives me more sense of control. Am I reading this wrong or are some of you guys getting hot and bothered because women drive "sticks". The preference for manual may change as i get older, but for now, I'm going for manual.
My father drives an automatic. And i can honestly say there is not amuch difference. Theres less movemnt of the driver. and possibly.. the 1st gear change from 1st to 2nd is bags smoother. That depends very much on the driver of the manual though. I'm not a very smooth driver.. bu ive improved lots
My father drives an automatic. And i can honestly say there is not amuch difference. Theres less movemnt of the driver. and possibly.. the 1st gear change from 1st to 2nd is bags smoother. That depends very much on the driver of the manual though. I'm not a very smooth driver.. bu ive improved lots
I hate driving an Auto, it feels so unnatural and like I have no control of the vehicle.
I drive manual almost exclusively. The hardest part is learning how to do it in the first place, after that you have 100 times as much control over what the car does.
You also wear the brakes out much less often, and if you use your brain (which most manual drivers do fortunately) you don't wear out manual gearboxes or clutches nearly as often as parts in auto gearboxes wear out.
Add to that, manual cars are almost always cheaper to run and buy than autos, and they weigh less.
So manual cars > auto cars for soooooooo many reasons.
I drive manual almost exclusively. The hardest part is learning how to do it in the first place, after that you have 100 times as much control over what the car does.
You also wear the brakes out much less often, and if you use your brain (which most manual drivers do fortunately) you don't wear out manual gearboxes or clutches nearly as often as parts in auto gearboxes wear out.
Add to that, manual cars are almost always cheaper to run and buy than autos, and they weigh less.
So manual cars > auto cars for soooooooo many reasons.
manual cars are much more powerful as compraed to auto one ...
Stick isn't bad, but it's one more thing to worry about...
| Soulfire wrote: |
| Stick isn't bad, but it's one more thing to worry about... |
Actually auto transmission is one more thing to worry about! The maintenance and repair is much more expensive than that of the manual one.
I much prefer to drive a stick shift car. My father forced me to learn on stick shift and I'm thankful he did....while learning was tough, the rewards are well worth it. I also think stick shift is more fun to drive.
When I first learned to drive a car, it was on a standard shift vehicle. It only took a few tries to finally get used to where the friction point was on the clutch.
Driving standard shift vehicle is fun, especially if it's a big, bad-a** truck.
That being said, driving a stick shift vehicle where I live is absolutely crazy. For example, it takes me nearly 1 1/2 hours to drive to work every day. The average speed is between stopped-to-20 mph. Driving is stop and go traffic at slow speeds is really tiring on the leg that operates the clutch.
At that point, it ceases to be "Mario Andretti" fun.
Driving standard shift vehicle is fun, especially if it's a big, bad-a** truck.
That being said, driving a stick shift vehicle where I live is absolutely crazy. For example, it takes me nearly 1 1/2 hours to drive to work every day. The average speed is between stopped-to-20 mph. Driving is stop and go traffic at slow speeds is really tiring on the leg that operates the clutch.
At that point, it ceases to be "Mario Andretti" fun.
Yeah, as many others have said, manual transmission is the standard in Europe, and hence, yes, girls use it too (and why wouldn't they?). I've only ever met two people who drive an automatic, both handicapped - seems to be mainly for disabled people - and non-handicapped Americans (j/k).
I have license for both motorcycle and car, and whenever I sink as low as getting in a car (I really can't stand cars - bulky and clumsy vehicles - but must admit they're more practical in one or two cases), I wouldn't want an automatic shift. No, it's not one more thing to worry about - you barely think about it unless you have to. It's one more thing to give you a feel for your driving. Tried an automatic a couple of times, and I really don't feel like I'm driving.
I have license for both motorcycle and car, and whenever I sink as low as getting in a car
(I really can't stand cars - bulky and clumsy vehicles - but must admit they're more practical in one or two cases), I wouldn't want an automatic shift. No, it's not one more thing to worry about - you barely think about it unless you have to. It's one more thing to give you a feel for your driving. Tried an automatic a couple of times, and I really don't feel like I'm driving. welcome everyone
Manual transmission is the standard in Europe. In north america, automatic transmission in the most present. I don't think that there's a difference in driver's sex. Then gils and boys use both... it depends on price. automatic is a little bit expensive then manual. I think that it's more a question of $$$.
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| Driving a "stick" is only difficult in very large trucks. (Where the clutch spring offers considerable resistance.) |
Why? The gear in trucks is pneumatic, so you don´t have any problems. (Thinking before wiriting would be handy)
| goutha wrote: |
| Manual transmission is the standard in Europe. In north america, automatic transmission in the most present. I don't think that there's a difference in driver's sex. Then gils and boys use both... it depends on price. automatic is a little bit expensive then manual. I think that it's more a question of $$$. |
Right, and automativ vars use more patrol (but even this isn´t important to americans
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Greets
Hi im from england and practically everyone drives "stick" as u call it we just call it manual
| Crackster wrote: |
| Hi im from england and practically everyone drives "stick" as u call it we just call it manual |
I live in Belgium and also practically everyone "drives" stick too. Driving stick is a bit of a ambigious word however.
I don't think driving stick isn't that hard, you just have to get used to it. And women are known for being better able to do several things at the same time | mjohnson wrote: |
| Where I come from we have mostly what you call the shift stick drive and I don't know any girl who has problem with them. |
what is shift stick drive in ur civil language
Girls driving automatic make the roads a safer place. Cos majority of my female friends can't really dirve on an auto, God knows what will happen if they drive a manual. Cheers!
It just takes a lot of practice, and then you get used to it. It's not because you're a girl you can't drive stick, not at all. Here in Belgium all girls drive stick (still hate that expression), and there may be some problems in the beginning but they get used to it, just like guys have to get used to it.
Automatic isn't that safe too, in Germany an old man crashed into a market because of an accident with the automatic gear. I don't know the precise facts, but I think the wanted to go backwards, but he went forwards (because he put the automatic in the wrong position), and he started panicking so much and wasn't used to automatic that it all went wrong. It's all about getting used to the gear I think.
Automatic isn't that safe too, in Germany an old man crashed into a market because of an accident with the automatic gear. I don't know the precise facts, but I think the wanted to go backwards, but he went forwards (because he put the automatic in the wrong position), and he started panicking so much and wasn't used to automatic that it all went wrong. It's all about getting used to the gear I think.
I am learning to drive at the moment in France with a stick shift, and it really isn't hard, just a case of listening to your engine. Takes a little bit of getting used to, but thats the same for most people when they are learning to drive. I have never tried to drive an automatic, but here, if you pass you driving license with an automatic car then you are not allowed to drive a stick shift unless you pass the test again.
Wish my girl would just learn to drive for starters...
should gender really make a difference? I mean, I know pleanty of women here in the us that use manuals. It's not like they can't or shouldn't use them. Unless of course your one of those conservative type jerks who can't change.
I'm a man, and I can't drive a manual transmission vehicle.
There, I've admitted it.
There, I've admitted it.
I drive a stick shift. I love it. You have more control over what the car is doing, saves you a bit of gas, and is fun to do. I'm a girl, and 17. I would chose manual over automatic any day.
Why does it matter? A car, truck, or motorcycle is just a mode of transportation. A way to get from one place to another. Stick shift or automatic is just a matter of prefrence, in some cases it just depends on what you were using when you first learned to drive. Your sex deffinately shouldn't make any differance in which you choose. It's not like it is a prerequesite to be a man in order to drive using a standard transmission. I personally like both (automatic / stick) they have their on individual advantages and disadvantages. I prefer the control and handling of a stick shift car when performance is important, but when I am stuck in traffic for hours going to and from work I much prefer the freedom of an automatic no thinking just break and gas, plus it leaves the hands free for whatever.
Find which one YOU like, and drive it until the wheels fall off, who cares what anyone else thinks.
Find which one YOU like, and drive it until the wheels fall off, who cares what anyone else thinks.
I just had a discussion about this with a female friend of mine. She had to drive a automatic this weekend. She had trouble driving that. Kept slamming the brakes, being so used to using the clutch between gears. We are in EU.
I learned how to drive using a manual transmission and my mother was my teacher. She even taught technics I used in drag racing and road race course driving. I enjoy the control I have driving a manual. Manual transmissions require more concentration on your driving than with an automatic.
Wow. Rampant racism and sexism in this thread.
I am a woman and I love driving manual cars. I'm forced to drive an automatic car in Japan because it's near-impossible to find a manual, and I absolutely hate it. You have no control over the car!
And considering I am a woman, and could drive the pants off of a lot of guys (have done both advanced and defensive driving courses, and done rally driving), I really think you should leave the sexism to your wanking sessions with the boys, please.
I am a woman and I love driving manual cars. I'm forced to drive an automatic car in Japan because it's near-impossible to find a manual, and I absolutely hate it. You have no control over the car!
And considering I am a woman, and could drive the pants off of a lot of guys (have done both advanced and defensive driving courses, and done rally driving), I really think you should leave the sexism to your wanking sessions with the boys, please.
"The woman behind the wheel is a manace to the society, nomatter of sex!" - said a tv star (who is a woman, btw)
Where I live (E Europe) there's a lack of performant automatic transmission. Drivers are a bit old school lovers. So woman (those who don't use the reverse) must comply.
About driving a truck: local bus drivers use the clutch just for 1st gear. Then they shift without the clutch, because it's cheaper to repair the gear box than to replace the clutch.
I drove one ... and the clutch wasn't very precise, but the heavy weight (10-11Tons) and the big engine made it start smoothly
Where I live (E Europe) there's a lack of performant automatic transmission. Drivers are a bit old school lovers. So woman (those who don't use the reverse) must comply.
About driving a truck: local bus drivers use the clutch just for 1st gear. Then they shift without the clutch, because it's cheaper to repair the gear box than to replace the clutch.
I drove one
... and the clutch wasn't very precise, but the heavy weight (10-11Tons) and the big engine made it start smoothly  |