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Email from Yahoo! and AOL will be CHARGED

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chiragcoolboy
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Yes! people if you thought Yahoo! Mail / AOL was the best; now think again both these companies have planned to charge a nomial fee for the correct email delivery. Paid-email customers will get their mails in a more speedy manner compared to a second set of consumers will have to endure lost or late mail coming to their respective accounts as a result of this paid service.

AOL is set to roll out this service in the second quarter in USA and Canada and then followed by Britain. Yahoo to follow soon.

Now you may ask how is this justified? The spokeperson from the company says "We want e-mails sent using the technology to have a stamp of authentication, so that consumers know that an e-mail that appears to be from a bank really is from that bank. We think that will help cut down on spam, but we don’t want consumers to pay any extra". (AOL)

Now people shift some other alternative like Gmail (2 GB and growing) with over 5 million and expanding; mail.com or others; No way hotmail ( 5 MB, 25MB, 250MB[USA mainly])

The best option go for Gmail. They are also introducing a new chat service call Gmail talk. Check out the thread from godsownman
http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37350


To read more goto Times Newspapers Ltd.


they are digging a grave for themselves .. both yahoo n aol .. who would pay for "correct email delivery" ?? lmao. i will stick with gmail for now .. atleast until windows live mail becomes open for all.


Yes It's a big mistake by yahoo & AOL. When there is google no fool will charge you.

Bye Bye yahoo and AOL.
jaysen
The way i understood it was that they were charging e-mail senders that wanted to be sure thier mail got delivered.....

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The optional charging plan is meant for those organisations that send a lot of e-mail and do not want their messages mistaken for spam. Organisations that do not want to sign up will be able to send mail the old-fashioned way.


Charging for the normal user to send e-mail would never work, and i doubt any company exec would be that stupid to try
Animal
jaysen wrote:
The way i understood it was that they were charging e-mail senders that wanted to be sure thier mail got delivered.....


Spot on!

It's a charging plan aimed squarely at corporations that don't want their business email caught by spam filters etc. It's kind of a good idea - if you've ever bought flights or a holiday online, the chances are that a load of the important confirmation emails ended up in your spam bin along with the holiday ads. I think the idea here is that the marketing emails will be sent "free" and end up in your spam folders, but the important stuff is guaranteed to reach your inbox.

In theory, it's a good idea. In practice... we'll just need to wait and see.
jaysen
yes in theory at least it sounds ok... but it's going to come down to how picky they are at filtering legitimate vs. spam........ for instance who's to say a spammer can't just pay his "nominal" fee and spam the crap out of us that way, especially considering he will be guaranteed that we will get it that way. Or, for that matter, clone the authentication method and send thier evil messages uder the guise of legitimate e-mail.

I'm not convinced it will work as planned, and to be honest, i can't say i've even had much of a problem not getting e-mail. Had a few in the past end up in the spam folder, but its not like i can't see whats in there to start with, and get it out.
root
Yahoo and AOL are just feeding Google.... Google will take over the world.
Animal
jaysen wrote:
yes in theory at least it sounds ok... but it's going to come down to how picky they are at filtering legitimate vs. spam........ for instance who's to say a spammer can't just pay his "nominal" fee and spam the crap out of us that way.

Because to comply with US and European law, they have to provide an unsubscribe link that actually works. "Dodgy" spammers won't do this, but if they pay to send the emails, they must use a verified payment method. Illegal activity? Just follow the mail to the billing address, so from that point of view, I think it would be effective.

jaysen wrote:
Or, for that matter, clone the authentication method and send thier evil messages uder the guise of legitimate e-mail.

Yep - that's the real issue. Unless there's a guaranteed verifiable communication channel (which would only be possible with paid mails that go AOL to AOL or Yahoo to Yahoo) then it will somehow be possible to spoof the verification.
It would be very very very difficult to do that if AOL and Yahoo were to implement a signing procedure, such as that used in PGP and GnuPG for email encryption and signing via public-key technologies. There are currently no known cryptographic weaknesses in the standard methods of signing mail, so perhaps that's something that may be implemented. A "good signature" (ie. it has been verified by Yahoo or AOL) would mean it bypasses any filtering. A "bad signature" (eg. one that's had an attempt at faking) would be either bounced (rejected) or sent straight to the spam folder. I don't know how it will work, but the companies are unlikely to invest a load of time and money into it unless its credibility can be absolutely guaranteed.

I think most other companies will wait and see what happens with AOL and Yahoo before developing their own methods. If it is easily bypassed or doesn't make much money, it'll disappear pretty quickly.
smalls
I'm on-board for any spam solution that doesn't involve government regulation. Even if this isn't the right answer, it's at least a move toward innovation. For those who say that they will never be able to charge for it if other people offer it for free......keep in mind that AOL has been consistently been charging 2-3 times as much as cheaper ISPs for virtually the same product. In fact, you can even get DSL cheaper than AOL dial-up now. And Yahoo! somehow manages to charge websites to be listed when Google and the others do it for free.
No doubt Gmail is the best. But Firefox (free) is better than IE, Linux (free)(in pretty much every form) is better than Windows. But somehow I'm still sitting here at my work writing this in an IE browser on a Windows OS.
Oh well.
jongoldsz
Once GMAIL and LIVE are available to the public, AOL and Yahoo are going to die. AOL is almost since Verizon DSL costs less than AOL and Yahoo is slowly dying because google is releasing products and services that rival the ones Yahoo makes.
bigdan
At first, I thought this was a joke! Shocked

But after reading it....I can't still can't believe it...sounds a bit silly to me Razz
Josso
How much will the charging be... that's insane. I don't use AOL or Yahoo but my family uses AOL.
Animal
Josso wrote:
How much will the charging be

Up to $0.01 per email

Josso wrote:
... that's insane. I don't use AOL or Yahoo but my family uses AOL.

You've obviously not read the full article. The charging is optional and is aimed at corporate customers. The deal is, pay for your email and it'll never end up in anyone's spam folder.
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