The second beta of Internet Explorer is just available. It includes tabs and has a very small top. The default search engine is google - quite funny. It uses TrueType fonts by default, making it look like a pdf, in my opinion. Also a search toolbar like the one from Firefox and an rss feed reader. All in a new skin, of course. A lot of errors are reported, but it's still in beta so that explains a lot.
Please note that it will install over Internet Explorer 6, but it shouldn't be hard to remove.
In my opinion this is a real step forward for Internet Explorer. The pages seem to be loading faster and it gives a good first impression. I doubt it will make a lot of Firefox users switch back to IE, but it will definately stop the big flux to FF once the final version is released.
Download page so how much would you rate this new version out of 10 ?
Apparently they've discovered a security vulnerability already:
http://www.betanews.com/article/IE7_Beta_2_Preview_Open_to_DoS_Attack/1138810784
"The bug lies in the urlmon.dll file and causes the browser to crash when it encounters a URL with the "file://" protocol followed by a long string of dashes."
This apparently means it's wide open for a DoS Attack. unfortunately, we will be seeing a long year of these "holes" and "vulnerabilities" ...
For whatever reason, Microsoft can not seem to get it right the first 50 times...
Well, at least they get credit for trying...
I would rate it 8/10 considering it is a beta version and hence is supposed to have some bugs.
Microsoft also cares more about new features instead of about bugs. Why? Because average Joe doesn't really care about them, rather about what he is able to do with it.
And about all the bugs. Windows/IE is run on almost every computer in the whole world. It needs to be compatible with every sound card, mouse, printer, ... If you put Linux on your computer, it can happen that half of the devices won't work. And who cares? It's free. And you won't get much support on a linux forum.
Also, Window loads a program most of the time to the same location in the RAM. If there is a problem in the memory, the program might crash and cause a blue screen. The user will blame Windows for being buggy. In the case of Linux, the user will get a segfault and the program will crash or something similar. Of course this won't be called a bug. 
Firefox also crashes on a lot of computers and generates a lot of problems for some people. If 95% of the people would use Firefox most hackers/malware would rather target that browser and FF would be less secure than Internet Explorer - even though the code might be a bit more secure. If it would be installed on 95% of the computers it would also cause a lot of crashes on all kind of situations and combinations of hardware/software.
Please remember that all Windows patches/software are tested on those platforms and combinations of software. That's why it takes so long for patches to be released. Firefox and other open source product aren't doing this. I'll be trying this out soon, but whether IE7 is safe or not, I have no intention of getting rid of Firefox any time soon.
Firefox will always be in front. . . So many people hate microsoft and you can use it on all operating systems. Its a really good browser too, so im going to stick with firefox, but probably going to have to download some update, because microsoft forces you too =(
The day the MS releases any product without having patches and fixes for it on the same day will be a day to remember. MS is a security nightmare that hackers love to attack.
How well does it follow w3c standars? css and all that.
i would definitly try this out when it comes out but firefox>IE anyday
Yeah, firefox doesn't work on my computer for some reason. I think I'll go download the IE7 right now. 
Meh, it'll take a while before my determination shifts from firefox to ie...*sigh*
Might check it out, but it's so hard to go back, isn't it?
Hahaah Bondings , after all i got support from some one on windows and IE ,
What ever bondings said is true ,
and the people who are showing bugs , should know that ie7 is still in beta , it has to have bugs ,
When IE7 is released, I'll abandon Firefox instantly.
I'm hoping it's as expandable as Firefox.
For me its just a cheap copy of Firefox, but with a whole lot more of secyrity holes.
Almost everything that it has, Firefox already have it.
I am not trying to protect Firefox, but Microsoft has always being aking copies of other products already on the market...the good point for them is that they already have a good name to promote their products.
My opinion is, they better get soething new and good fast, because Firefox 2.0 is coming this way till the mid of 2006.
As I could see from most of the replies above, people have already given their verdict ... IE 7 dismissed without a second thought or even a fair trial. 
Some won't use IE 7 because they hate M$, some since they have become too habituated to FireFox (I wonder how they made the switch from IE to FF in the first place)
I don't know why, but M$ ususally doesn't get that.
I personally try to prevent any kind of prejudice precede logic ... even when it comes to deciding what software I use.
I'll use what I find best for me.
Even if I hated microsoft, that would not have stopped me from using a superior software.
But all that ... only after they release the final version.
I don't have the patience for trying out beta products. mOrpheuS, you were stereotyping, I was supporting the product.
Testing WLM is okay for me, but, not IE7. But I'll make the switch back once IE7 is released and stable.
I've installed it, and looks way like a PDF reader. I miss the classic 'File | Edit | View |whatever' menu bar, and it feels weird being unable to download a webpage. It takes away some control you used to have as a user. That's bad.
The tabbing system looks more like Opera's one than to Firefox's one. Cool.
It has PNG alpha blending support. Cool.
It has some protecting measures and its sandboxing works pretty fine. Cool.
It doesn't have SVG rendering support. That's bad. It's not that much job at allto bundle the svg plugin with the installation package.
No simple plugin developing nor managing means. That's bad. COM objects and BHO's aren't what I'm looking for here.
Fails miserably the ACID2 test. I mean, it's not like it misses some spots or misplaces a segment of the test. It fails miserably. Check this out (it's a capture of IE7 on the test) and then see this (it's a capture of Firefox on the test) and then this-capture of the test on Opera-.
Its anti-phishing wizard is annoying, and I'm not comfy at all with it sending urls to Microsoft whenever it finds that pleasant. I want control over that.
Summarizing my user experience:
Good stuff: 3 -tabs, PNG alpha, foolproof basic security measures-
Bad stuff:5 -no File | whatever toolbar, no SVG support, no real extensibility, annoying filters, totally fu**ed up CSS support -
Neutral /*you can disagree all you want, it's just my opinion*/: 1. -I can't find how to leave the anti-phishing filter active while deactivating it's url-sending behavior-
As a first approach, it's not bad, but it could be WAY better, considering it's practically rewritten from scratch.
No matter how wonderful it is, if it doesn't have an open plugin architecture I just won't use it for surfing, though I could consider putting it on my reference-browsers-list when I develop something. I've been using ie7 since the first beta, and have to say that i like its simplicity over ie6. to the one person who commented that microsoft can't get it right "over 50 vulnerabilities" guess what, ITS A BETA....
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| As I could see from most of the replies above, people have already given their verdict ... IE 7 dismissed without a second thought or even a fair trial. |
Fair trial? lol.
Question, does the default install still enable ActiveX and Active Scripting? (Which we all know is the root cause of their problem with the security bugs)
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| to the one person who commented that microsoft can't get it right "over 50 vulnerabilities" guess what, ITS A BETA.... |
I'm fairly certain the shortly after the final release, that number will jump dramatically. (Just considering M$'s history) | Reiji wrote: |
I am not trying to protect Firefox, but Microsoft has always being aking copies of other products already on the market...the good point for them is that they already have a good name to promote their products.
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HTml was made for IE if i am not wrong ,
IE 7 doesnt have to have all the load of BS other Browsers have ,
what i want is a fast ,secure and simple browser ,
i do not want to debate which is the better browser here , cuz this THread is about IE7 and it should remain that way
All the other FF and opera users try to hijack this thread ,
for once STick to the Topic
Mods please take care of that the Topic remains about IE7 , let users talk abuot IE 7 and not thier other Fav browsers | Devil wrote: |
what i want is a ...,secure ...browser ,
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Good luck with that. That's why I asked about the ActiveX and Active Scripting. | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| Devil wrote: |
what i want is a ...,secure ...browser ,
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Good luck with that. That's why I asked about the ActiveX and Active Scripting. |
Thanks for the luck , but i am not a noob ,
Ever heard of firewall and antispyware , antivirus ?
only a Noob would depend on his browser for total security from internet ,I'm testing it out right now, and i actually think its quite cool. I have (tried) to use Firfox before but couldn't handle it very well but i really like this version. Like bondings (i think) said the tollbar is quite small which i like and its much easier to take control of what you want to do with one click of the mouse and so far no problems with it, I rate it 9.5/10 
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| S3nd K3ys wrote: | | Devil wrote: |
what i want is a ...,secure ...browser ,
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Good luck with that. That's why I asked about the ActiveX and Active Scripting. |
Thanks for the luck , but i am not a noob ,
Ever heard of firewall and antispyware , antivirus ?
only a Noob would depend on his browser for total security from internet , |
You want a secure browser? And you're going to use IE? And you claim you're not a newb? 
Sorry, just kidding, I know how much of a difference a good driver can make in a car that's going to explode anyway... 
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I would rate it 8/10 considering it is a beta version and hence is supposed to have some bugs.
Microsoft also cares more about new features instead of about bugs. Why? Because average Joe doesn't really care about them, rather about what he is able to do with it.
And about all the bugs. Windows/IE is run on almost every computer in the whole world. It needs to be compatible with every sound card, mouse, printer, ... If you put Linux on your computer, it can happen that half of the devices won't work. And who cares? It's free. And you won't get much support on a linux forum.
Also, Window loads a program most of the time to the same location in the RAM. If there is a problem in the memory, the program might crash and cause a blue screen. The user will blame Windows for being buggy. In the case of Linux, the user will get a segfault and the program will crash or something similar. Of course this won't be called a bug.
Firefox also crashes on a lot of computers and generates a lot of problems for some people. If 95% of the people would use Firefox most hackers/malware would rather target that browser and FF would be less secure than Internet Explorer - even though the code might be a bit more secure. If it would be installed on 95% of the computers it would also cause a lot of crashes on all kind of situations and combinations of hardware/software.
Please remember that all Windows patches/software are tested on those platforms and combinations of software. That's why it takes so long for patches to be released. Firefox and other open source product aren't doing this.
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I will give 6 only
since there are many errors and quite slow
I would prefer to use Firefox...
since firefox support gspace lol | resolve wrote: |
I will give 6 only
since there are many errors and quite slow
I would prefer to use Firefox...
since firefox support gspace lol |
Are you sure that its not your PC ?, because the BETA version i have of IE runs much faster than the previous version of IE i hadI thought IE6 was the last of the IE's and MS was integrating a browser into its new operating system.
I us IE7 all the time but what I call, and many others call, IE7 is a JavaScript uses to make IE compatible with css.
http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/
If IE is not a dead browser then I need to rethink me coding philosophy...
Is this IE7 browser the same source code as the old IE, I mean is it really an IE7...??? | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
Sorry, just kidding, I know how much of a difference a good driver can make in a car that's going to explode anyway... |
So u think that ur smart just cuz u use another browser ?
my pc is very secured , i have 2 firewalls running , antivirus , not to mention other popup blockers , and pc security softwares , which dont allow any script to install without my permissons,
plus i have system guard always on , plus antispyware and adware removers ,
U people must be depending on ur browsers for security . but not me ,
and what the heck even if ur browser was safe there are many other ways to get ur pc screwed , so i dont really understand why u people make a big deal about it 
Well, it took Microsoft long enough to enter the Stone Age! lol
I have downloaded it but I hate restarting my computer so I have had it installed for a few days not but I can't run it because it's one of those stupid programs that forces you to restart your computer after you install it.
I love you guys' prejudices. That's all I'm gonna say here.
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| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
Sorry, just kidding, I know how much of a difference a good driver can make in a car that's going to explode anyway... |
So u think that ur smart just cuz u use another browser ?
my pc is very secured , i have 2 firewalls running , antivirus , not to mention other popup blockers , and pc security softwares , which dont allow any script to install without my permissons,
plus i have system guard always on , plus antispyware and adware removers ,
U people must be depending on ur browsers for security . but not me ,
and what the heck even if ur browser was safe there are many other ways to get ur pc screwed , so i dont really understand why u people make a big deal about it |
Seems like an awful lot of crap you're going thru to be secure. I have NAV with 3 year old virus defs, no proxy, no 'security software' or adware blockers or spyblockers or anything.
I have a browser, a free firewall, and safe surfing habits. That's it.
And I'm not making a big deal about it except to point out to you that by using inferior products, you must either over-compensate for it or deal with the reprecussions. In the case of IE, sooner or later you will likely end up dealing with the reprecussions, either thru a breech of security, or bogging down your system trying to track down and keep on top of adware and spyware.
BTW...
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Yeah, I've heard of them. I used to use them, too, when I was a newb, but not any more. No need when you know what you're doing. Sorry not for me, to accustomed to Firefox. I only have Explorer available to look briefly at sites that only support Explorer. Other than that it is a virtual paperweight.
Seriously though you guys should go back and read this thread, there is some stupid geeky shit going on. Get a life.
I like it. It's a big improvement on IE 6.
I'm going to stick with firefox though, it still has the edge
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HTml was made for IE if i am not wrong ,
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Uhh...way wrong. HTML was made as a standard for transmitting documents over the internet. It was supposed to be universal, so it would work if you were using a browser or something else. But then Netscape and IE started making up their own tags.Microsoft has always followed in the Browser wars. So IE 7 has tabs? Good grief man - tabs have been around for years! Browsers like Opera have had tabs going back more than 5 years already! Now Opera even has voice commands. One thing it doesn't really have are extentions, because it's proprietary software. Firefox's extentions, themes, etc. are incredible, because it's Open Source. You can get everything from RSS feeds to the weather in your toolbar - without too much bloat. Don't forget other great tools like resuming where you left off the last time you were online. Frihost forums for example
Bondings, you said: "And about all the bugs. Windows/IE is run on almost every computer in the whole world. It needs to be compatible with every sound card, mouse, printer, ... If you put Linux on your computer, it can happen that half of the devices won't work. And who cares? It's free. And you won't get much support on a linux forum."
You obviously haven't seen the latest release of Knoppix or even Mandrake. These Linux distributions have "Live CD/DVDs", which means you can run the whole operating system off a CD or DVD. Okay, you can't save any changes, but try that with Windows - you just cannot! Think about the possibilities when DVD RAM becomes more popular - your whole OS, files and all on one 4.7GB DVD! A bit small for now, but bound to get better.
I put a Knoppix disk into an IBM PC with a TV card, and it automatically tuned in to *all* the channels, and I was watching TV in about 30 seconds - and the OS was running off a DVD! It took 3 months to get the right Windows drivers off the Net, after the original disk was lost.
As for Windows having better support for hardware... um, that's because the manufacturers make their products to support Windows first because almost every PC coming out the shop has Windows pre-installed. Imagine if more PC's came out the box without an Operating system - would Windows be as popular? If you can legally run Linux for free but have to pay for Windows, wouldn't Linux increase in popularity?
The biggest gripe I have about Linux is the need to compile software before it runs, and the general difficulty in installing apps. Then again, Linux doesn't have as many bugs or viruses as Windows does.
I use Opera (licensed), Firefox and IE. I use Opera when I need speed ("the fastest browser in the World"), and Firefox for just about everything else, including these forums. IE I use very seldom, usually when some site doesn't load and will only work with IE. That's not because IE is better by the way, but because it doesn't follow the standards, and there are still some foolish programmers and designers who develop everything to work only with IE.
IE has its uses, but let's face it, generally it sucks! It's way too big too! Let's move on people! I really like the new Internet explorer seven , its so much nicer than the old one (internet explored six). I really like the RSS feed feature, while i hear this was old news in firefox its new to me and i like it. Another new think i like about it is tabs, another thing thats nothing spcial to the brower world but still revolutionary for me.
Well, that's a good release considering its still in the beta stage. I liked the new streamlined design. Much better than 6. The tabs make it all worthwhile. Also the RSS feeds. However, I don't know how to change the default search engine. Its set to yahoo and I want to change it to google. No matter how much I search, I can't find that option.
Gah, i cant stand internet explorer. Ever since i discovered mozilla firefox, its all that i use. I highly recommend it because it filters out alot of popups itself and runs alot cleaner.
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| Gah, i cant stand internet explorer. Ever since i discovered mozilla firefox, its all that i use. I highly recommend it because it filters out alot of popups itself and runs alot cleaner. |
But firefox takes much time to load a page 
PLease Stick to the Topic this Topic is about IE 7 dont Bring Firefox in this ,
anyway i had tried the first beta of ie7 , but dint like it , so i went back to IE6 ,
guess i will wait for the final version | Bondings wrote: |
| Please note that it will install over Internet Explorer 6, but it shouldn't be hard to remove. |
'it shouldn't be hard to remove'...
How hard is it and can it be done? | hack_man_ wrote: |
| Bondings wrote: | | Please note that it will install over Internet Explorer 6, but it shouldn't be hard to remove. |
'it shouldn't be hard to remove'...
How hard is it and can it be done? |
This is what I heard, but I didn't try it yet. If this is the way to uninstall, then it hope you agree that it is easy.
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| To uninstall: Start -> Control Panel -> Add or Remove Programs. Tick the box at the top "Show Updates" and you will find "Internet 7 Explorer Beta 2" under "Windows XP - Software Updates". |
is it a reliable browser now? or it's just another vulnerability?
I tried it, and it looks quite good.
I like the feature where you can see all your tabs as little thumbnails in one page.
But it isn't the Beta 2, it is the "Beta 2 preview".
The actual Beta 2 will come in a few weeks, the current preview is targeted on developers that want to try their web pages in the new IE before anyone else tries it.
It really gets weird if even the betas get their own previews... I installed IE 7 and I like it. It's works just fine, and is very easy to customize to your liking. I also like the thumbnails button. The only problem I can find with it is that it ain't so good at opening links in new windows. It'll do it just fine if you right-click, but links with target="_blank" won't open right.
But as for Firefox, it sucks. Save the Internet: Get IE. It's so much better. IE forever!
I just dont't understand why IE won't work on my computer. I can't press links on websites and things like that. Firefox works quite good but i can't watch movies on the internet. Just shows "Cannot create direct show player."
Someone got anserw to one of those problems?
| Tiger wrote: |
Microsoft has always followed in the Browser wars. So IE 7 has tabs? Good grief man - tabs have been around for years! Browsers like Opera have had tabs going back more than 5 years already! Now Opera even has voice commands. One thing it doesn't really have are extentions, because it's proprietary software. Firefox's extentions, themes, etc. are incredible, because it's Open Source. You can get everything from RSS feeds to the weather in your toolbar - without too much bloat. Don't forget other great tools like resuming where you left off the last time you were online. Frihost forums for example
Bondings, you said: "And about all the bugs. Windows/IE is run on almost every computer in the whole world. It needs to be compatible with every sound card, mouse, printer, ... If you put Linux on your computer, it can happen that half of the devices won't work. And who cares? It's free. And you won't get much support on a linux forum."
You obviously haven't seen the latest release of Knoppix or even Mandrake. These Linux distributions have "Live CD/DVDs", which means you can run the whole operating system off a CD or DVD. Okay, you can't save any changes, but try that with Windows - you just cannot! Think about the possibilities when DVD RAM becomes more popular - your whole OS, files and all on one 4.7GB DVD! A bit small for now, but bound to get better.
I put a Knoppix disk into an IBM PC with a TV card, and it automatically tuned in to *all* the channels, and I was watching TV in about 30 seconds - and the OS was running off a DVD! It took 3 months to get the right Windows drivers off the Net, after the original disk was lost.
As for Windows having better support for hardware... um, that's because the manufacturers make their products to support Windows first because almost every PC coming out the shop has Windows pre-installed. Imagine if more PC's came out the box without an Operating system - would Windows be as popular? If you can legally run Linux for free but have to pay for Windows, wouldn't Linux increase in popularity?
The biggest gripe I have about Linux is the need to compile software before it runs, and the general difficulty in installing apps. Then again, Linux doesn't have as many bugs or viruses as Windows does.
I use Opera (licensed), Firefox and IE. I use Opera when I need speed ("the fastest browser in the World"), and Firefox for just about everything else, including these forums. IE I use very seldom, usually when some site doesn't load and will only work with IE. That's not because IE is better by the way, but because it doesn't follow the standards, and there are still some foolish programmers and designers who develop everything to work only with IE.
IE has its uses, but let's face it, generally it sucks! It's way too big too! Let's move on people! |
I thik so too | polarBear wrote: |
| I miss the classic 'File | Edit | View |whatever' menu bar, and it feels weird being unable to download a webpage. |
You can actually still use that menu bar. All you have to do is right click on the home button and check "Classic Menu".
Last edited by heady233 on Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:59 pm; edited 1 time in totalIE7 Sucks...
I'm sticking to firefox... HAHAHAHA, I'm am a firefox supporter. Muhahahahahaha.
Always found alternative browsers to IE from the start. When I reinstall windows, the first site I got to in IE is www.getfirefox.com
the second site is like Windows update.... Thanks for the review Bondings and I can see there are lots of potential in the new version
IE is my favorite browser and I can't wait to see it released. Well just downloaded it and I like it. Faster then FF and sleaker too.
Tabbed browsing work easier and you can set it so link that would normally open a new window getted tabbed instead, I heard this was possible in FF just never figured it out.
Someone was asking about ActiveX controls being accepted by default and (with no big shock) they are not. Of course that has been the default since the hole was found. In fact it asked me about a control for a website that I always visit that FF never asked me about. I will have to look into that.
When it comes to protection I am impressed. Unlike someone said safe surfing habits alone can not protect someone (and people who think otherwise make spammers money)
Overrating 8.5 it lost half a point for just being to differant. It will take a while to get use to but if all goes well I may just switch back to FF.
i love the firefox extensions too much...
firefox all the way!
youre right though, bondings, wonder why they didnt use msn search...
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i love the firefox extensions too much...
firefox all the way!
youre right though, bondings, wonder why they didnt use msn search... |
Boss Create ur own thread for Firefox , this is Ie Thread and not a debate of the best browser 
I'm using IE7 beta at the moment, and although its vastly suprior to the previous verions, I still find that Firefox is better.
Microsoft still haven't improved the access to your favouites on it, so Firefox bookmarks are still loads better.
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I'm using IE7 beta at the moment, and although its vastly suprior to the previous verions, I still find that Firefox is better.
Microsoft still haven't improved the access to your favouites on it, so Firefox bookmarks are still loads better. |
i find IE fav list to be the best among all browsers ,
it is not like others ,where u have to open a diff page just to delete ur fav bookmarks , which u dint make inthe first place , u got loads of it when installed that browsers 
Does anybody know how to open up a new tab rather than a new window for default ? I've tried to mess around with it but cannot find the option, thanks.
This is a screenshot of what you webpage can look like when choosing personalized colours for BETA 2 . As you can see there is nothing particular wrong with it here:
However when you look at this image you can see all of the format is all messed up on some websites :
Another (more major) prolem i if you choose your own colours and choose the option "ignore colours/fonts on webpage" then most things will be hidden. For example i am writing this right now in a black background and i cannot see the words that i am writing at all which is kind of difficult. Other missings things include the texts in the buttons, (the submit/preview words, the words in the BB boxes and just about everything else. It is not just this website neither, the images above are hosted at imageShack and on their home page the upload button is completely invisable which also meant that i spent ages clicking everywhere before finding it.
All in all i think the customizing options for BETA 2 are still pretty poor, especiall when yuo can't see what your writing ! I'm going to switch back t using the default options whcih is a shame as i think the customizing of things is really cool 
yo where can i download the internet explorer 7 beta file!? i tried looking for it in the microsoft downloads page but it's not there. can anyone give me the link to it? if there isn't any tell me.
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As far as firefox and IE goes, i prefer internet explorer. I used firefox for a while because my IE kept crashing for some reason, (i found out it was because of the stupid optimum online toolbar), i dunno what makes firefox so good is it the tabs? well i prefer IE because it's simple, it blocks pop ups with google toolbar and it's fast. When i go to myspace or some other websites firefox doesn't display it well. it looks like the codes are messed up when it's fine in IE. So i cant wait when IE 7 comes out.
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yo where can i download the internet explorer 7 beta file!? i tried looking for it in the microsoft downloads page but it's not there. can anyone give me the link to it? if there isn't any tell me.
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As far as firefox and IE goes, i prefer internet explorer. I used firefox for a while because my IE kept crashing for some reason, (i found out it was because of the stupid optimum online toolbar), i dunno what makes firefox so good is it the tabs? well i prefer IE because it's simple, it blocks pop ups with google toolbar and it's fast. When i go to myspace or some other websites firefox doesn't display it well. it looks like the codes are messed up when it's fine in IE. So i cant wait when IE 7 comes out. |
The direct download link is: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=58957IE 7 is still a bit back, Microsoft had like what, 11 Years nearly to make IE something while firefox is barely 10 years old. Yet they out done, Out smarted and out witted Microsoft. So I guess Firefox is the right pick. Plus no matter what anything Microsoft will have major bugs. The problem with them is they care about the money. Having the most advance thing on earth is something, But yet have major flaws is something else. It cannot coexist. Being 100 years ahead of everyone, Big deal with major flaws it can take you back to the stone ages or just be a burden to the pockets.
Have any of you heard that there is a new browser called Thunderbird out i think it looks a bit like it is just like Firefox, but i havent tried it i've just seen the logo. 
| demolaynyc wrote: |
yo where can i download the internet explorer 7 beta file!? i tried looking for it in the microsoft downloads page but it's not there. can anyone give me the link to it? if there isn't any tell me.
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As far as firefox and IE goes, i prefer internet explorer. I used firefox for a while because my IE kept crashing for some reason, (i found out it was because of the stupid optimum online toolbar), i dunno what makes firefox so good is it the tabs? well i prefer IE because it's simple, it blocks pop ups with google toolbar and it's fast. When i go to myspace or some other websites firefox doesn't display it well. it looks like the codes are messed up when it's fine in IE. So i cant wait when IE 7 comes out. |
Actually it has to do with the language used to make the web site. Firefox as a community built program, is programmed to be compatitible with the latest web standard while windows is a few years behind since Microsoft doesnt really prioritize on the IE program.I am definately going over to FireFox for sure. I see the preview. It is basically copycat of FireFox, Opera, and few other browsers out there.
If I am going to use IE7, it because I had been force into using it.
Wow. I cannot believe what I am reading.
Many people complain about IE.
You know IE is the standard of browsing.
Have you seen how some websites are seen in Firefox. aghhh
You know how many time I have lost trying to remodifing my website so can be seen in Firefox. Just because is becoming a popular browser, many webmaster are braking their heads trying to please both IE and Firefox.
But what I still don't get is If you don't like IE, why don't you download another browser that uses IE as a base. I am using AOL Explorer as we speak, and so far I haven't had no problems!! It has the Tab feature and it is powered by IE engine. And it is the most stable.
There is other browser that have the same IE engine. Like the SBC Yahoo Broswer.
will anybody come out from Firefox
| AG007 wrote: |
Wow. I cannot believe what I am reading.
Many people complain about IE.
You know IE is the standard of browsing.
Have you seen how some websites are seen in Firefox. aghhh
You know how many time I have lost trying to remodifing my website so can be seen in Firefox. Just because is becoming a popular browser, many webmaster are braking their heads trying to please both IE and Firefox.
But what I still don't get is If you don't like IE, why don't you download another browser that uses IE as a base. I am using AOL Explorer as we speak, and so far I haven't had no problems!! It has the Tab feature and it is powered by IE engine. And it is the most stable.
There is other browser that have the same IE engine. Like the SBC Yahoo Broswer. |
There is also MAxthon which uses IE engine , and has loads of features , | AG007 wrote: |
Wow. I cannot believe what I am reading.
Many people complain about IE.
You know IE is the standard of browsing.
Have you seen how some websites are seen in Firefox. aghhh
You know how many time I have lost trying to remodifing my website so can be seen in Firefox. Just because is becoming a popular browser, many webmaster are braking their heads trying to please both IE and Firefox.
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I can't believe someone said IE is the standard of browsing. IE is the farthest one can get from standards compliance. If your breaking your head trying to make things look right on FireFox you need to pretty much forget what you know and learn w3c compliant coding. | a_dubDesign wrote: |
| AG007 wrote: | Wow. I cannot believe what I am reading.
Many people complain about IE.
You know IE is the standard of browsing.
Have you seen how some websites are seen in Firefox. aghhh
You know how many time I have lost trying to remodifing my website so can be seen in Firefox. Just because is becoming a popular browser, many webmaster are braking their heads trying to please both IE and Firefox.
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I can't believe someone said IE is the standard of browsing. IE is the farthest one can get from standards compliance. If your breaking your head trying to make things look right on FireFox you need to pretty much forget what you know and learn w3c compliant coding. |
i dont give a crap about w3c , as a webmaster i would support IE , cuz it is nonleach browser , it doesnt cheat me , like opera disguises itself like IE ,
if thier browsers are so good why the heck they identify themselves as IE ,
if they dint use IE name , they would not even able to surf the web properly , i cant wait for it to be done =)
Actually, I read some interview with one of the Firefox guys who said that the next version of IE will increase the number of people using their browser. IE 7 will only work on Windows XP, yet many people still use older versions of Windows like 2000 and 98 and aren't willing to upgrade their whole operating system to use a new browser. But the new version will signal that older versions of IE are unsafe, and they will look for alternatives. Which one do you think they will choose?
I hear that they're gonna discontinue Mac support
sorry guys I use Firefox and Opera, so no download for me!
I'm actually using Netscape. I tried to download the new Firefox and it was all buggy, and i couldn't get the old version back. It also sucked that you have to mess around with config files in order to get flash working and skin support with it. So i downloaded netscape, with it you can view in ie mode or in firefox mode. Its got lots of cool features too, but it takes more memory than the alternatives, and is loaded with crap when you first put it on too. But besides that i've only had some problems with tab to tab copying, other than that its been alright. I think i'd like to try the ie new beta though.
I'm a supporter of IE, although many of you will probably jump on me to switch to FireFox.
If no one really knew it, IE is basically the same thing as Windows Explorer, just use it vice versa. Enter "C:\" in the IE address bar and hit enter - guess what ? It brings you to your hard drive. Then enter a website address in Windows Explorer and hit enter - same thing - it's the same program. If you say that IE sucks, then you're saying that Windows Explorer (the entire program that runs your desktop) sucks also. If Windows Explorer isn't running on your computer, you won't be able to see any of your desktop icons, the taskbar, or any of the windows as a matter of a fact. If everyone hates IE, then why don't you guys use Linux since most of you hate Microsoft anyway ?
I know that FireFox includes a lot of tools to help make your computer more safe...blah blah blah. I use Windows XP Professional with SP1 (I don't believe in the updates that Microsoft made with SP2) but I found good tools on the Internet that keep my computer safe enough. It's been said that if you have SP1 and keep up with all of the other updates, then you're just about at the same level as you are with SP2.
It's just like trying to compare one car with another. Saying that one includes better stuff with it and makes it "safer". You can have an older and cheaper car, but you will need to get the necessary updates to make it just as good as the next. Such as adding an alarm system.
If no one can recall that Microsoft went upon a huge court case about including IE with Windows with Windows 98 (95 maybe ?) where Netscape was trying to compete with their Internet browser. All of that is done and over with and Microsoft is trying to compete still with the Internet market. How else can Microsoft make IE different than mimmicking how some other browsers look ? They're trying to make other people be aware that there are other options around that include different features, and Microsoft is trying to regain that with redesigning IE a little bit.
Don't know if you guys know this - but some companies (like Internet service providers) do not provide support for open-sourced browsers like FireFox, they only provide support for closed-sourced browsers like IE and Netscape.
Yes, I have used FireFox and I don't enjoy surfing the Internet with that kind of a browser. IE is fine for me.
My rant ends here.
- Mike. We should appreciate fireworks and other browser.because without them ,Microsoft can not take a action so fast.competition always benefit to consumer.
Is the new Internet Explorer good?I want to try it.
What is the different between new IE and old IE?
So far I like IE 7 beta 2 preview. I have lots of friends/co-workers that prefer FireFox to IE. There are two things about FireFox that I like - tabbed browsing and quick, easy updates. IE 7 adds tabbed browsing and like it or not, many websites ONLY work with IE so I use IE as my primary browser.
I know that IE is not fully w3c compliant. My website is w3c compliant and it looks much better in IE than in FireFox.
I also know that Microsoft adds new features much quicker when they have competition. I am glad FireFox gained so much in popularity. It forced Microsoft to "catch up".
The new tab preview function is nice and I like the x on each tab. It makes closing a tab easier than the single x on the right side offered by FireFox.
I too was surprised that the default search engine is Google. I can't imagine why Microsoft would not use MSN Search as the default.
It has been said before but I am going to say it again - most Microsoft software is not less secure than other software it is just targeted more. When you are number 1, everyone makes you a target. If/when someone else takes the lead, more issues will be found for them and more hackers will target them.
a men 2 dat mi brotha i don reeli care bout tha browser but more tha software on my comp and there is nuthing rong with just the ussual ie6 coz its been out for like 5 yrs and its good and i tried firefox and the day i got it i had like 5 errors on different things that ie6 dont get and it tends 2 be slower and i did an experiment so shove that up ur *** yeh and wateva u r all nerds lol and i like marijuana peace
Today at RSA, Bill Gates talked about Internet Explorer 7. As the guy responsible for IE, I wanted to say a couple of things about it.
First, some basics: we’re committing to deliver a new version of Internet Explorer for Windows XP customers. Betas of IE7 will be available this summer. This new release will build on the work we did in Windows XP SP2 and (among other things) go further to defend users from phishing as well as deceptive or malicious software.
Why? Because we listened to customers, analysts, and business partners. We heard a clear message: “Yes, XP SP2 makes the situation better. We want more, sooner. We want security on top of the compatibility and extensibility IE gives us, and we want it on XP. Microsoft, show us your commitment.”
I think of today’s announcement as a clear statement back to our customers: “Hey, Microsoft heard you. We’re committing.”
Why are we talking about it today? Because our customers and partners have asked us, with increasing urgency, what our plans are. We want to convey our intentions to our customers and partners clearly and in a timely way.
I’ve gotten questions about the ship date. Yes, we have a date in mind. I’ll talk about the date after we get feedback from customers and partners. We’re going to release a beta and listen, then refresh the beta and listen some more. We’ll ship when the product is ready.
I’ve also gotten questions about support for Windows 2000. Right now, we’re focused on XP SP2. We’re actively listening to our major Windows 2000 customers about what they want and comparing that to the engineering and logistical complexity of that work. That’s all I can say on that topic.
Please know that the IE team is working hard. We’re eager to improve and better secure the web experience for the hundreds of millions of IE users around the world. We delivered on our part of XP SP2. We are actively delivering on our part of a great 64-bit Windows client. We continue to deliver on security updates for customers (across several versions of IE (back to IE 5.01) and Windows). We’re going to deliver on IE7.
Dean
I dont think IE will ever be better than Mozilla. Mozilla will keep improving and kick IE's butt
I'm using internet Explorer 7 right now, it doesn't seem much different to 6 or 5, if it is, I don't really notice. I didn't like my experience with yahoo Beta anyway, so I doulb I like Beta much or Fire Fox
Saw the FF window anyway it just much better design in terms of looks
whether it all better, isn't it all about the connection, dial up or broadband and the speed of the connection????
I would rate it 8/10 considering it is a beta version and hence is supposed to have some bugs.
Microsoft also cares more about new features instead of about bugs. Why? Because average Joe doesn't really care about them, rather about what he is able to do with it.
And about all the bugs. Windows/IE is run on almost every computer in the whole world. It needs to be compatible with every sound card, mouse, printer, ... If you put Linux on your computer, it can happen that half of the devices won't work. And who cares? It's free. And you won't get much support on a linux forum.
Also, Window loads a program most of the time to the same location in the RAM. If there is a problem in the memory, the program might crash and cause a blue screen. The user will blame Windows for being buggy. In the case of Linux, the user will get a segfault and the program will crash or something similar. Of course this won't be called a bug. Wink
Firefox also crashes on a lot of computers and generates a lot of problems for some people. If 95% of the people would use Firefox most hackers/malware would rather target that browser and FF would be less secure than Internet Explorer - even though the code might be a bit more secure. If it would be installed on 95% of the computers it would also cause a lot of crashes on all kind of situations and combinations of hardware/software.
Please remember that all Windows patches/software are tested on those platforms and combinations of software. That's why it takes so long for patches to be released. Firefox and other open source product aren't doing this.
Today at RSA, Bill Gates talked about Internet Explorer 7. As the guy responsible for IE, I wanted to say a couple of things about it.
First, some basics: we’re committing to deliver a new version of Internet Explorer for Windows XP customers. Betas of IE7 will be available this summer. This new release will build on the work we did in Windows XP SP2 and (among other things) go further to defend users from phishing as well as deceptive or malicious software.
Why? Because we listened to customers, analysts, and business partners. We heard a clear message: “Yes, XP SP2 makes the situation better. We want more, sooner. We want security on top of the compatibility and extensibility IE gives us, and we want it on XP. Microsoft, show us your commitment.”
I think of today’s announcement as a clear statement back to our customers: “Hey, Microsoft heard you. We’re committing.”
Why are we talking about it today? Because our customers and partners have asked us, with increasing urgency, what our plans are. We want to convey our intentions to our customers and partners clearly and in a timely way.
I’ve gotten questions about the ship date. Yes, we have a date in mind. I’ll talk about the date after we get feedback from customers and partners. We’re going to release a beta and listen, then refresh the beta and listen some more. We’ll ship when the product is ready.
I’ve also gotten questions about support for Windows 2000. Right now, we’re focused on XP SP2. We’re actively listening to our major Windows 2000 customers about what they want and comparing that to the engineering and logistical complexity of that work. That’s all I can say on that topic.
Please know that the IE team is working hard. We’re eager to improve and better secure the web experience for the hundreds of millions of IE users around the world. We delivered on our part of XP SP2. We are actively delivering on our part of a great 64-bit Windows client. We continue to deliver on security updates for customers (across several versions of IE (back to IE 5.01) and Windows). We’re going to deliver on IE7.
Dean
Fount a bug in the BETA version. No matter what you cannot search the history of the sites that you want to visit, can't complain though, everything else is fine (for now) I kinda liked the interface of IE7 (BETA 1), and I don't know whether or not the interface has changed between the two BETAs and also, I don't think I'm going to upgrade because I love my firefox. I won't be getting rid of it anytime soon.. But if if they already found a security hole in it, then there's no point in me upgrading right now. Besides, Microsoft coulld never beat Firefox's extensability and skinablity. firefox is still better...cuz i have beta 2 and the major improvement in ie 7 is tabs and phishing protection...but its annoying..
Where can I get more info on IE7? When is it do for final release?
I guess I have a bunch of questions, but I'm not up for a long-term trial of a beta version... I don't have time to deal with a lot of bugs and security holes.
But I do a lot with CSS, and want to know how the new version is going to change my markup. Someone said earlier that the new version's CSS support is still less than satisfactory... but I'd really like more details.
If someone could point me towards some more information, reviews etc., I'd be thankful.
I mostly use Firefox myself, but I run IE and Opera as well. I'll try out IE7 a little closer to the due date for final release...
W3C standards mean a lot to me. IE just doesn't measure up, so far. I just downloaded IE7 and so far its nice, I have encountered a few glitchs here and there, like in IE6 pages that used bright colors didn't blind you, Also some text in IE7 appears to be blurred but im hoping that they will fix some of the text blur, unless those are smudges on my monitor that is
But other then that its good so far, also I have used the all powerful fire fox and I dont really like it, it screws up alot of the webpages you go to plain and simple.
Also IE7 could do with a bigger browser bar or W/e you call it, its way to small. I'll have to give this a shot...
I don't think it will break me away from Opera, though. I don't seem to be able to download it?! 
I really like this public beta of internet explorer and i agree with bondings it looks more slick like a .pdf reader. I'm glad my website is compatible with it and also my feeds are after a night working on em have a look also u can add and customize it trough its menu so that the classic bars also show up like file ect
overal i give it a 7/10 because im still using it firefox not it prefecthes ect i like this allready more later on when i used it a lil longer i will write a whole review about it and its functions here as a reply, ... i wont be trying out IE7 till vista comes out. it seems that theXP version is just a stop gap until vista comes out with a completely different IE7 preinstalled. i really think using a beta browser is a waste of time. unless you're a devloper whats the point in setting yourself up for possible attack?
there are two different versions of IE7 the public beta, and the one that is incased in the vista beta. from my understanding, there are some major differences between the two.
i think that MS have thot they need to get a product out so that people stay with IE and dont shift to firefox. but i dont think that the real BIG changes in IE can be carried out unless its inbedded in a different operating system. MS's plan is just to keep people happy with a new toy until they can actually sort out the problem...
is everyone happy with their new toy?
| izcool wrote: |
I'm a supporter of IE, although many of you will probably jump on me to switch to FireFox.
If no one really knew it, IE is basically the same thing as Windows Explorer, just use it vice versa. Enter "C:\" in the IE address bar and hit enter - guess what ? It brings you to your hard drive. Then enter a website address in Windows Explorer and hit enter - same thing - it's the same program. If you say that IE sucks, then you're saying that Windows Explorer (the entire program that runs your desktop) sucks also. If Windows Explorer isn't running on your computer, you won't be able to see any of your desktop icons, the taskbar, or any of the windows as a matter of a fact. If everyone hates IE, then why don't you guys use Linux since most of you hate Microsoft anyway ?
I know that FireFox includes a lot of tools to help make your computer more safe...blah blah blah. I use Windows XP Professional with SP1 (I don't believe in the updates that Microsoft made with SP2) but I found good tools on the Internet that keep my computer safe enough. It's been said that if you have SP1 and keep up with all of the other updates, then you're just about at the same level as you are with SP2.
It's just like trying to compare one car with another. Saying that one includes better stuff with it and makes it "safer". You can have an older and cheaper car, but you will need to get the necessary updates to make it just as good as the next. Such as adding an alarm system.
If no one can recall that Microsoft went upon a huge court case about including IE with Windows with Windows 98 (95 maybe ?) where Netscape was trying to compete with their Internet browser. All of that is done and over with and Microsoft is trying to compete still with the Internet market. How else can Microsoft make IE different than mimmicking how some other browsers look ? They're trying to make other people be aware that there are other options around that include different features, and Microsoft is trying to regain that with redesigning IE a little bit.
Don't know if you guys know this - but some companies (like Internet service providers) do not provide support for open-sourced browsers like FireFox, they only provide support for closed-sourced browsers like IE and Netscape.
Yes, I have used FireFox and I don't enjoy surfing the Internet with that kind of a browser. IE is fine for me.
My rant ends here.
- Mike. |
windows explorer and IE are not the same program. they are very intimatelyrelated, and thats why it causes so many problems but the are NOT the same program.
NOWHERE should be advising that you should not install the secruity updates MS sends out. you are basically sitting with a hole in your ship. no respectable security forum on the planet suggests that you shouldnt get security updates.
IE6 is not a safe browser:FACT.i have it. the look is cool but it is still quite buggy. sadly ftp doesn't work. the extra tab feature like in firefox is cool though
Dont install it!!! you can't go back!!
I recently checked out the preview of IE 7, but for the moment I'll stick with Firefox. Once the final release is out, I'll give it a whirl and see how it fares.
I have always been a fan of the PC and everything that came with the pc. I never used to like macs. I have never tiried firefox. Always have used Internet Explorer. The new 7 should be interesting. IE 6 was almost the same as IE 5. Im hopping this one is going to be a little different. When does it come out. The real version.
I think it's a good beta version there is only one problem:
| McWilson wrote: |
I think it's a good beta version there is only one problem:
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I THINK it is quite smart
may be i will use itIf your refering to the blank space that they dont use to the right of the tab button then that is used man when you open up more windows. If not then please clarify what you mean a bit more then a pointing red arrow.......
| Reaper wrote: |
| If your refering to the blank space that they dont use to the right of the tab button then that is used man when you open up more windows. If not then please clarify what you mean a bit more then a pointing red arrow....... |
They do mean this so its obvious that they've never had more than one tabbed window open before. To everyone thats saying that the link doesn't work, check my posts before this, in it is the direct download link.It seems to be a nice update to Internet Explorer but like all microsoft products it has it glitches/bugs/holes like has already been mentioned over and over again its probably like a 99.9% chance any microsoft product has a bug which most programs has but microsoft being in the position they are and having the technology they should almost be able to guarantee no security flaws. Almost was mentioned that everyone loves to mess with Microsoft so everyone is looking for that leak in security.
Noo. Damn those explorers. I like opera and its doubtless the best browser in the world! Mmm...mouse-gestures! Go opera!
i love the new IE, but yes the beta has some problems, i found that some forum html editors dont work, and a couple other "small" errors. Im pretty sure that itll be fixed and will change alot of opinions about IE. Me personally wont download firefox again after trying the beta. I just used that to view transparent .png images but now that IE7 supports them, adds a phishing filter, and tabbed browsing, RSS and all that from a update that will be required in the future Microsoft updates, why waste the drive space on firefox
wow it seems pretty cool....i still think firefox is better for now
I've installed it, and looks way like a PDF reader. I miss the classic 'File | Edit | View |whatever' menu bar, and it feels weird being unable to download a webpage. It takes away some control you used to have as a user. That's bad.
The tabbing system looks more like Opera's one than to Firefox's one. Cool.
It has PNG alpha blending support. Cool.
It has some protecting measures and its sandboxing works pretty fine. Cool.
It doesn't have SVG rendering support. That's bad. It's not that much job at allto bundle the svg plugin with the installation package.
No simple plugin developing nor managing means. That's bad. COM objects and BHO's aren't what I'm looking for here.
Fails miserably the ACID2 test. I mean, it's not like it misses some spots or misplaces a segment of the test. It fails miserably. Check this out (it's a capture of IE7 on the test) and then see this (it's a capture of Firefox on the test) and then this-capture of the test on Opera-.
Its anti-phishing wizard is annoying, and I'm not comfy at all with it sending urls to Microsoft whenever it finds that pleasant. I want control over that.
Summarizing my user experience:
Good stuff: 3 -tabs, PNG alpha, foolproof basic security measures-
Bad stuff:5 -no File | whatever toolbar, no SVG support, no real extensibility, annoying filters, totally fu**ed up CSS support -
Neutral /*you can disagree all you want, it's just my opinion*/: 1. -I can't find how to leave the anti-phishing filter active while deactivating it's url-sending behavior-
As a first approach, it's not bad, but it could be WAY better, considering it's practically rewritten from scratch.
No matter how wonderful it is, if it doesn't have an open plugin architecture I just won't use it for surfing, though I could consider putting it on my reference-browsers-list when I develop something.
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I agree
on my old homepage i have maked a survey about it!! The achievement: only 27 people used the internet explorer and 67 people used the firefox!! I also used the firefox, because (i think you know it but,) it is saver and faster than internte explorer and secondly the design is much better!!! internet explorer sucks, any version they release will suck. 2 buggy and all that, i scanned my firefox with a site i have and no vulnerabilities found on my firefox browser, now when i scan IE(with all sec updates) it finds some, so i stick with firefox from now on. Microsoft just sux at what they do now.
FIREFOX ROX!!!!!!!
^^^i second that firefox rules
They have a new internet explorer out i didn't know that did you know they have a microsoft windows beta now too?
lmao blcklude97, really i didnt, microsoft sux, i hope they loose all their sales and go bankrupt soon. im also switching to LINUX as it rox 2
i surport xbox though i'm all for that 100% i'm big on xbox live. I play madden a crap load but ya i didn't know they made a new IE and truely it does not matter to me because i don't use it i'm loyal to firefox i was introduced to firefox about 6 months ago and will never return to IE. I do like some of the screen shots of the new IE though it looks flashy and newer which is always a plus because old IE is just boring and looks plain.
Wow! IE 7? I never dreamt IE would have tabs, but how is the security? Is this more stable than Firefox? Does or will it ever support extensions or themes? Extensions are what really drive people towards Firefox. After you start using it, you can't stop. There are so many great extensions out there that become a necessity. It isn't all about luxury IE users, but it truely is and always has been about convenience. By coincedence, Firefox has always seemed luxurious compared to IE. Can Microsoft make a come-back? Is it such a good thing that they be making a new browser? Judging by their other projects, I can't say that this will be such a good thing. There are a large number of people using Microsoft products, and Microsoft, being the target of many threats, doesn't seem like the place to go.
Edit: Downloaded, installed, tried, hated. This browser does look good. They finally got a new graphics artist it seems, and brought the browser up to the 21st century. They may be trying to make their browser look better with the new Vista/Longhorn skins being released for various skinning programs such as Windowblinds/Style XP. However, even this forum's text does not wrap correctly, and I've already seen a few bugs in the 4 minutes I used it. I'm going to keep using Firefox because I like the customizable interfaces and the extra features that have become a necessity. I was also turned off when I first tried Firefox (at the time I was using Avant Browser), but after downloading it, and trying it a third and fourth time, I grew to like it. I've used it ever since. Firefox has played a small part in turning me into a memory intensive, ram sucking machine, but at least I'm happy. I don't trust Microsoft, and I'm sure they will live up to their reputation. The complete lack of extensions, themes, toolbars, shortcut menus, and an updater has me baffled. It seems Microsoft is going old school. IE 7 lacks more in the features department than IE 6. I prefer any other browser at this point in time.
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| blcklude97 wrote: |
| i surport xbox though i'm all for that 100% i'm big on xbox live. I play madden a crap load but ya i didn't know they made a new IE and truely it does not matter to me because i don't use it i'm loyal to firefox i was introduced to firefox about 6 months ago and will never return to IE. I do like some of the screen shots of the new IE though it looks flashy and newer which is always a plus because old IE is just boring and looks plain. |
The new IE does not look flashy, its just well designed is all. Personally there are two things fire fox is good for, eating up computer space, and putting flashly shit on it in order to distract you from what you were doing in the first place.
And you play madden a lot? well thats not somthing to be impressed with, maby I would be if it was not for two things, the first is one goddam guy has complete rights to it so he basicly has a monopoly over the entire foot ball series. The second of course is quite simple, ITs the same pissing game, only diference is they hit the delete hey on 2005 and type 2006, add in some new players, re-design how the menus look and call it a new foot ball game.
Also musikrocks its not prounounced "The firefox!!" its plain and simple fire fox, your way of writing it only makes fire fox seem more important even though its not. Also 67 people who visited your site on firefox and only 27 on internet explorer huh?? so 94 people total visited your site?? keep in mind that most of those 67 Fire fox users were probably your close friends or their friends who most likely also use fire fox, and I'm pretty sure that most of those Fire fox voters voted more then once seeing most people can't set up a poll correctly so people can only vote once. So your pole was basicly bias from the beggining.8/10 it takes a while to get used to because i use firefox but it pretty good its quite easy to use it i like it
i dun tink it will b 'secure'.. IE is widely used and attracts lots of hackers hu want to exploit it..
I'm now with Ie7 beta 2 and I like it it is better than previus versions. There are some very useful extras like phishing filter and automatic website checking. It's not only good looking it's more secure and one good feature that I note is blocking the pop-ups which I hate. All the functions and buttons which we don't use so often are hided, so the browser is simple and functional. I like the favorities and history menu and the tabs for every site you are viewing although it is not so good for people with slower machines. I note some bugs and errors but don't forget it is a beta version so I hope that there won't be bugs in the final release. I gave it 9/10 but without bugs I think it deserves 10 | Devil wrote: |
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
Sorry, just kidding, I know how much of a difference a good driver can make in a car that's going to explode anyway... |
So u think that ur smart just cuz u use another browser ?
my pc is very secured , i have 2 firewalls running , antivirus , not to mention other popup blockers , and pc security softwares , which dont allow any script to install without my permissons,
plus i have system guard always on , plus antispyware and adware removers ,
U people must be depending on ur browsers for security . but not me ,
and what the heck even if ur browser was safe there are many other ways to get ur pc screwed , so i dont really understand why u people make a big deal about it |
Security is nice, but I want to use my PC to work, surf, etc. instead of loading it full with tools to prevent evil things.
If you are carefull about the websites you visit, the software you install and other things you do with you PC, you don't have to fill to the roof with security software. | Bondings wrote: |
| but it will definately stop the big flux to FF once the final version is released. |
You mean more people will "use it" simply because just as before it'll be integrated into the latest MS OS of the day, right?
Wow, big accomplishment. What if Firefox were also installed. Which would users choose to use more often?I'll be trying this out soon, but whether IE7 is safe or not, I have no intention of getting rid of opera 8.5 any time soon.
Unfortunately MS has hurt me too often with IE6. SO much that i lunged at opera and hugged Firefox. Still, its on my OS since SOMETIMES sites still dont load correctly on FF. But, that goes to say, i will give IE7 a spin when the final version is released, and also when my download cap is removed.
IE7 Is still the same shit of ever.
Just change to Mozilla Firefox.
Microsoft has been copying everything from DoS and windows XP.
Saludos,
Well I've moved back to IE from Firefox for the time being. It is so much faster for one thing. I also rather like the new cleaner user interface.
I'm disappointed to say that there are some compatibuilty problems with IE7 and mcafee anti virus....... Anyone know when they are going to release the newest update for IE7 because at the moment I dont have a virus protector..........
I have found that there are LOADS of bugs in IE 7 beta
It keeps having to close due to an 'unexpected error'
I don't like IE ! I like Firefox ! IE isnot very safe and very good even in this newest version ! It doesn't protect us from hacker, virus, worm,... !
I think IE 7 is a minor upgrade but still it's better than nothing at all. Many internet technologies have been introduced in the past three years, and none of these new features have been incorporated into IE. What a shame for the biggest software giant on the planet!!! I really think that IE deserves more attention from Microsoft because the Internet is a growing community, and users simply want something safe and easy.
Thanks for the link, I haven't heard about it yet.
How long ago did IE7 come out?
Any good new features included with it?
Right now I use FireFox mainly, but I also use IE once in awhile.
I thought IE6 was the last of the IE's?
| skaterm wrote: |
| I thought IE6 was the last of the IE's? |
As if Microsoft would give up that easily! They only stopped developing IE for Macs, which is probably fine by most Mac users. They have Safari.
I think IE7 is ugly ... and cluttered. Windows Vista doesn't look real pretty either. Next computer I buy will probably be a Mac or will run Linux. Microsoft is just ... ugly.it's a really good try, but i'm not switching from Firefox. The new IE's not like office 12, when it should be; Errors are always reported. Why should it be? Why not ignore the errors and display like a normal webpage? My popup slider worked in Firefox so good that it...... well............ displayed but IE gave me 20 errors of "object expected" and ""{" missing". Microsoft has tried, but he never get it right. I wonder then it gets better.
I have tried ie7 and i like the layout and features but it messed up my lan network so i am sticking to firefox just now
I'll stick with Internet Explorer because firefox won't find the porxy server at work. What's wrong with Microsoft anyway? I always hear people bashing Microsoft. But if it's so bad, why hasn't Linux or Unix taken it over as the main OS? I've always wondered that, but haven't asked it before. Microsoft is good enough for me.
I've been trying out the "New Improved" IE 7 beta and its not bad at all. However, it refuses to load some sites: www.download.com, loaded half way. Then for whatever reasons, it crashes occassionally. However, if Microsoft can get it to work, I may dump Firefox for it. Firefox hugs memory... yuck! After using Firefox for a while I would never go back to IE. The main reason is the extensions that firefox has. they make my life so much easier. I'm running adblock plus to take care of all the banners, noscript to make sure that java doesn't run unless it is a site I trust, flashblock to get rid of those annoying macromedia flash banners that adblack doesn't get, greasemonkey to just make browsing easier on certain sites and spellbound so that my spelling doesn't suck as much as it should.
firefox just pwns IE, there is nothing microsoft could do to make me go back.
| zuriel wrote: |
| After using Firefox for a while I would never go back to IE. The main reason is the extensions that firefox has. they make my life so much easier. I'm running adblock plus to take care of all the banners, noscript to make sure that java doesn't run unless it is a site I trust, flashblock to get rid of those annoying macromedia flash banners that adblack doesn't get, greasemonkey to just make browsing easier on certain |
