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To ban, or not to ban





criticaldensity
If you had to choose to ban either porn or guns, which would it be? choose ONE. If you cant decide, move on. This is all hypothetical.
S3nd K3ys
I'd vote neither, or porn, in that order. To ban guns would only turn me into a criminal, because I won't be giving them up.

BTW, you should have made this a poll. Wink
Sappho
Since porn doesnt kill ppl there is nothing to think about. Guns OUT.
Jeslyn
Without porn, I think a lot of people would go crazy.
Withot guns, people would need to be more creative about how they try to kill someone. Plus there would be no accidental drive bys.
hive
If I could ban ALL guns of the Earth forever so I would vote to ban guns, if not I would vote to porn just because I have to choose either porn or guns, 'cause i think porn ins't a bad thing since people do it for their own choice.

I think religion is worst than porn...
Bondings
Jeslyn wrote:
Withot guns, people would need to be more creative about how they try to kill someone.

I never thought of that. Banning guns stimulates creativity! Cool

Now seriously, I would really vote for a complete ban of guns.

By the way, by making porn illegal, you'll only make it more attractive. Wink
todabeat
if you ban porn people will start killing, and if you ban guns people will find other things to kill people with. so the easiest thing since this is hypotheticaly, is ban free will.. LoL i dunno just a thought. it would be hard if any of those two was banned
xorcist
Jeslyn wrote:
Without porn, I think a lot of people would go crazy.
Withot guns, people would need to be more creative about how they try to kill someone. Plus there would be no accidental drive bys.

At least we will have alot of people that will be creative and plan things out actually. And without porn some people might not go crazy just people who are addicted to it and watch it everyday.
madsencarl
People would just make their own guns. People would just make their own porn. Since porn is easier to make than guns, I say ban porn before guns.
Soulfire
Porn would be quite a bit harder to outlaw than guns, and since porn doesn't physically harm people (at least it shouldn't...) I have to say guns. And like previously said, it stimulated creativity. I mean honestly, how unoriginal is it to shoot somebody these days.

Poison them with arsenic is what I say! Just kidding... Wink
Kaisonic
At this point, I'd have to say guns, just because I can't legally possess guns (then again, I can't legally possess porn, but it's more readily available) Then, once I'm older and have a girl, go ahead and ban porn, since I won't need it and like guns. Guns are cool. And keep in mind, guns don't kill people, people kill people.
mschnell
Kaisonic wrote:
Guns are cool. And keep in mind, guns don't kill people, people kill people.


And people fly, not airplanes. Keep that in mind. People fly! It's not the airplane, it's the person!!!
mike4652
Quote:
and since porn doesn't physically

Porn does hurt people all the time. ie rape, child porn, perverts and the likes. Most people that are in prision for sex crimes have had a history of porn addiction.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
if you take away guns, then the killer will use a knife, take away the knife and they will use a club.
Teaching good morals is a step in the right direction.
I would vote for banning porn.
[FuN]goku
Jeslyn wrote:
Without porn, I think a lot of people would go crazy.

heh, my PDR (Personal Development & Relationships) teacher says that looking @ porn makes pedophiles,, but then again my pdr techers nickname is Scratch N' Sniff cuz she scratches herself then sniffs,, soo i dont think ill believe her and il go wif u on this one, Very Happy
Vrythramax
Guns kill...porn doesn't.

Unrealistic question...moving on quickly.
[FuN]goku
Vrythramax wrote:
Guns kill...porn doesn't.

Unrealistic question...moving on quickly.
Wrong again Smile guns dont kill people,,, people with the guns kill people Very Happy yes i am a smartass
Jack_Hammer
GUNS!, Who could ever live without porn?
Marston
Guns - when did porn ever kill anyone?

[FuN]goku wrote:
Vrythramax wrote:
Guns kill...porn doesn't.

Unrealistic question...moving on quickly.
Wrong again Smile guns dont kill people,,, people with the guns kill people Very Happy yes i am a smartass
Actually, smartass, guns don't kill people - Chuck Norris does.
jongoldsz
Definately guns. Because porn doesn't kill. Well, maybe it does, but on a smaller scale... Unicellular organisms. (Male Gametes)
Vrythramax
OK...since it's been taken to a new measure....guns are a means to an end utilized by people, but without the gun to make them feel like they are superior, maybe they would do nothing. Or maybe they would just write about it a forum.

Nuff said. Flame me as you wish.
seanooi
i would say to ban guns, cause i don't own one, and it doesn't really concern me Laughing
But to ban porn!!?? THat's just not right! LOL Laughing
nOScott
i would have to say ban ... well i would pick neither, but if i had to pick it would be porn
lockwolf
Let me think here:

Pros to banning guns: Less Deaths
Cons: Less FPS games (Most likely), possibility of all guns (Paintball, Airsoft)
Could I live without it? Hell no

Pros to banning porn: Less Pedophiles
Cons: No easy to jack off
Could I live without it? Yeah, I can just go up to any girl in my school and ask her to strip for me

Verdict: Ban Porn
gonzo
Guns are a means to protect my liberty and right to life. What does porn do? Oh yes encourage vice -- essentially; it illicity stirs sexual passions and reinforces an unnatural experience of sexuality, but nowhere near as perversely as "casual" sex which is ironally the only unsafe sex for sex itself is not unsafe.
Devil
Bondings wrote:
Jeslyn wrote:
Withot guns, people would need to be more creative about how they try to kill someone.

I never thought of that. Banning guns stimulates creativity! Cool

Now seriously, I would really vote for a complete ban of guns.

By the way, by making porn illegal, you'll only make it more attractive. Wink


i dont know how people live in america and pakistan , where people carry guns all the time, pakistan even worse they carry AK-47

but in india it is totally a diff story ,

maybe 1 in 100000 people carry a gun india , if u dont count the police and the millitary forces ,
soulman
I decide to choose gun.... without gun, people will chose other things when they wanna hurt someone...
Sappho
I especially like those "i need guns to protect myself, my rights..." against who? I bet against others that have guns too, would u need one if they had none? Smile Lets flood me with all these "what if..." scenarios that will try to justify ur reasoning. Laughing
lyndonray
i think it's pretty obvious. Ban porn. It is leading to the moral decay of our social fabric. women are being victimised and taken advantage of for the sick pleasures of sick males like donald trump. young girls are being forced in to this industry from young ages and end up knowing nothing else. People then get gross pleasure from watching these senseless performances and........no dammit. I am thinking of pageants. F***.

In that case ban both of them but keep the porn
acamas
Hmmm If Guns were banned I think it wouldnt stop wars just encourage the use of misiles. The plus side would be their wouldnt be as many murders but Im sure people would still own tem. Blac market trades would be set up soo guns culd never be banned.

With porn if it was banned their still would be peterfiles, child rape, rape and sexual assult. Just because it is the internet and In magazines does not mean if porn was banned it would still not hurt people emotionally and mentally.

Verdict : You should take away guns. I dot see why so many people have them. taking porn away would just be pointless and just make alot of lonely men angry Wink.
[FuN]goku
lockwolf wrote:
Let me think here:

Pros to banning guns: Less Deaths

Pros to banning porn: Less Pedophiles
Verdict: Ban Porn


1)Nooo wrong people who use guns,, usually smuggle them illegally anyways so what makes you think there would be less deaths.

2)That wouldnt cut down on the pedophiles,, they would still have porn on p2p
programs like limewire, bearshare, torrent sites, ect.. and you cant really change a pedophile its who they are,, and they only get about 60-90 days in jail.
WebSiteGuru
It doesnt matter what you banned. It will always be there. I would say unbanned them all.

The more you banned the worse it get. There will be m,ore illegal stuffs then ever. (IE: drugs) They banned it. Guess what it's still here, there, and everywhere. What the purpose?
Vrythramax
[FuN]goku wrote:
lockwolf wrote:
Let me think here:

Pros to banning guns: Less Deaths

Pros to banning porn: Less Pedophiles
Verdict: Ban Porn


1)Nooo wrong people who use guns,, usually smuggle them illegally anyways so what makes you think there would be less deaths.

2)That wouldnt cut down on the pedophiles,, they would still have porn on p2p
programs like limewire, bearshare, torrent sites, ect.. and you cant really change a pedophile its who they are,, and they only get about 60-90 days in jail.


Less Deaths: Not a chance. If a person wants to kill they will find thier own medium.

Less pedophiles: If it is in thier nature then nothing you do will stop that.

It seems the only option here is to strive to eliminate violence, which is the recourse for many individules in the world.

Outlaw the gun, and only Outlaws will have a gun.

Edit: Not everyone in the US has, or wants, a gun.....or violence.
pjv
ban gun. y? porn adds life while guns takes life. but if i can choose both to ban, the better. too much porn is not so good, it destroys life at the end.
ocalhoun
Vrythramax wrote:
Guns kill...

Guns don't kill, people kill. They sometimes use guns to do so.
Before guns were invented, the world was even more violent and dangerous than it is now.
[FuN]goku
ocalhoun wrote:
Vrythramax wrote:
Guns kill...

Guns don't kill, people kill. They sometimes use guns to do so.
Before guns were invented, the world was even more violent and dangerous than it is now.
Well at least someone agrees with me Wink
saiyeek
Bondings wrote:

By the way, by making porn illegal, you'll only make it more attractive. Wink

Yes, you're right!
mschnell
Check this out:
http://www.oag.state.md.us/Press/guns.pdf

These two passages are quoted from the above mentioned pdf.

Quote:
In 1993, 39,595 people died from gun violence, of which 5,751 were children. Between 1988 and 1991, the 144,237 people who died from firearm injury exeeded the number of men who died in battle during the Vietnam War.


Quote:
The rate of death from firearms in the United States is eight times higher than in its economic counterparts around the world. In 1996, handguns were used to murder 30 people in Great Britain, 106 in Canada, and 15 in Japan. By contrast, a mind-boggling 9,390 were used in the homicide deaths of Americans.
ocalhoun
Gee, that's right we should have constitutionally banned guns from the very start!
Oh, wait, if we did that we'd still be occupied by the Brittish and the constitution wouldn't matter.
mschnell
ocalhoun wrote:
Gee, that's right we should have constitutionally banned guns from the very start!
Oh, wait, if we did that we'd still be occupied by the Brittish and the constitution wouldn't matter.


You're right, we needed a millitia back then. We obviously will never make another millitia, so you make no real point.
ocalhoun
mschnell wrote:
ocalhoun wrote:
Gee, that's right we should have constitutionally banned guns from the very start!
Oh, wait, if we did that we'd still be occupied by the Brittish and the constitution wouldn't matter.


You're right, we needed a millitia back then. We obviously will never make another millitia, so you make no real point.

We will need another militia when America is attacked large scale on the homefront.
Wer'e basically fighting a militia in Iraq. They are doing quite well considering how ill-supplied and outnumbered they are.
mschnell
ocalhoun wrote:

We will need another militia when America is attacked large scale on the homefront.
Wer'e basically fighting a militia in Iraq. They are doing quite well considering how ill-supplied and outnumbered they are.


Well, the day that happens I'll say you win. But until that day:P.
ocalhoun
That's the problem with people these days, they can't concieve of any future occurence after their own death.
Jeslyn
Rolling Eyes s/he never said it would or wouldn't happen before or after his/her death, s/he said when it happens - s/he'll change his/her response. You assumed they meant after their death...
ocalhoun
Jeslyn wrote:
Rolling Eyes s/he never said it would or wouldn't happen before or after his/her death, s/he said when it happens - s/he'll change his/her response. You assumed they meant after their death...

It's obviously not going to happen soon. We havn't had an infantry invasion since the annexation of Texas.
mschnell
Not to forget that we have a huge "deffense" budget, and a decent sized standing army.
NewGuyinTown
Yeah, ban both...
Guns are more of a threat. They seriously should ban hand guns... If you want to go hunting, use a rifle. A rifle on a civilian in the public gives some kind of warning he has an intent to murder.
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