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Will you be getting the PS3?
HELL YEAH!
34%
 34%  [ 95 ]
Sure, when the price drops by a bit
39%
 39%  [ 110 ]
If they change the controller
1%
 1%  [ 4 ]
No, and you can't change my mind
24%
 24%  [ 69 ]
Total Votes : 278

madsencarl
Well, it's soon on its way. Will you be getting the console that will could possibly flush down the Xbox 360?
WebSiteGuru
When PS3 come out, I definately will try to get it. I have money saved up for it. Hopefully it will be as good as PS1 and PS2. Xbox 360 I am not so found of it as much since I already have the original XBOX.
Monkeydog
No, I doubt it, and especially no if they do the one play junk.
SilverDogg
playstation have never been interesting to me, and the ps3 is no different. maybe in a few years if i find it interesting, otherwise, no.

id rather get myself a xbox360 than this.
Dorsk82
I think that with the PS3 Sony may be heading towards a real mistake. They have already admitted it is going to be expensive but I actually read somewhere that when asked about its price being prohibitive for kids and families, they stated that they didn't really care if those markets couldn't afford it. I have the money for a PS3 in spades and I am not a kid but videogames should be made accessible to all ages not just targeted at loser adults like myself!! Not only that but I think it is a real mistake to ignore the younger market as well as that of families because most really truly hardcore adult gamers are apt to just play PC games anyways!! Just my two cents... Wink
troyinator
Just look at Sony's marketting and support for the PSP. It's expensive, bloated, and software updates leave holes in your computer's security (if you use your computer to download them.) They've been letting their partial success go to their head. It's only a matter of time before they start developping only for themselves.
TeK
Looking at the current lineup no. Only two of the games caught my eye. Maybe when more games are anounced
sgwreviews
I've never liked PS,
Once I saw an advertisement for it, I couldn't stop laughing,
the add mensioned the performance of the PS3,
if you had calculated it, it was 2000% faster then the fasted server on earth, lol.
Kael
Oh, yes. The lineup.

I am a coder. And being a coder I can certainly tell you that the software has to follow the development of the hardware.
In other words, You can write some killer software, but can the hardware handle it? What happens with new technology is that the hardware is created first. You dont really know what the code is going to be capable of until you have the hardware to interact with it. It's hard to explain. Think of it as an OLD Commodore I16 trying to run Windows XP. Better yet, think about trying to write the code for WinXP using an I16. It's impossible. Therefore XP wasn't able to be designed until well after computers that could handle it were put together.

Same theory applies here. Have you even noticed the specs for the PS3? Do you even know what Blu-Ray technology is? The PS3 will be the first to have it. For those of you that don't know, Blu-Ray disc technology uses a blue-violet laser instead of a red one. Know what that means? It uses a smaller wavelength. So while cd's can hold 750Mb of data and a DVD can store just under 4.5GB, a Blu-Ray disc can hold a whopping 25 Gigs. Think of all those games that had to have 4 discs like the last FF. Thats still only about half the data that a Blu-Ray disc can hold. Imagine the possibilities there.
TV Infomercials wrote:

But wait, there's more.


The processor is a completely new type of technology itself as well. It's called Cell Technology. Aptly named for it's design if you ask me. I strongly suggest that you actually read about the architecture before you say that it's laughable at how fast it is. If you know anything whatsoever about hardware architecture then you will realize the truth behind the claims.

Code:

Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3

CPU: Cell Processor

PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory:

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:

Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:

2 TFLOPS
Storage:

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media:

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE



Think long and hard. The Ps3 is going to kick the crap out of the competition....... hands down. There is no way Microsoft or Nintendo are even coming close to this.
SilverDogg
Kael wrote:
Oh, yes. The lineup.

I am a coder. And being a coder I can certainly tell you that the software has to follow the development of the hardware.
In other words, You can write some killer software, but can the hardware handle it? What happens with new technology is that the hardware is created first. You dont really know what the code is going to be capable of until you have the hardware to interact with it. It's hard to explain. Think of it as an OLD Commodore I16 trying to run Windows XP. Better yet, think about trying to write the code for WinXP using an I16. It's impossible. Therefore XP wasn't able to be designed until well after computers that could handle it were put together.

Same theory applies here. Have you even noticed the specs for the PS3? Do you even know what Blu-Ray technology is? The PS3 will be the first to have it. For those of you that don't know, Blu-Ray disc technology uses a blue-violet laser instead of a red one. Know what that means? It uses a smaller wavelength. So while cd's can hold 750Mb of data and a DVD can store just under 4.5GB, a Blu-Ray disc can hold a whopping 25 Gigs. Think of all those games that had to have 4 discs like the last FF. Thats still only about half the data that a Blu-Ray disc can hold. Imagine the possibilities there.
TV Infomercials wrote:

But wait, there's more.


The processor is a completely new type of technology itself as well. It's called Cell Technology. Aptly named for it's design if you ask me. I strongly suggest that you actually read about the architecture before you say that it's laughable at how fast it is. If you know anything whatsoever about hardware architecture then you will realize the truth behind the claims.

Code:

Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3

CPU: Cell Processor

PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory:

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:

Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:

2 TFLOPS
Storage:

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media:

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE



Think long and hard. The Ps3 is going to kick the crap out of the competition....... hands down. There is no way Microsoft or Nintendo are even coming close to this.


yea, thats right, because if you have the strongest specs you are 100% sure to win! oh wait, thats not right =O. ps2 was the worst one, but still sold most. OMFG =O.

and besides, why is sony rushing to get blu-ray out there? dvd isnt dead yet, and wont be for a long time. and if they are going to sell ps3 for about $500, how crappy will it be considering a regular blu-ray will cost MORE than $1000?
Kelcey
Kael wrote:


Think of all those games that had to have 4 discs like the last FF. Thats still only about half the data that a Blu-Ray disc can hold. Imagine the possibilities there.


The last FF in what context? The last real FF was FFX and that took one dvd. No games have taken 4 DVDs(even 3) as far as I know. You're thinking back to FF8 and FF9 which were released many many years ago on CD.
jarcelao
the hardware specs of PS3 is pretty impressive but it isn't proper to benchmark a gaming machine just by its hardware itself. the quality of games that is released with that gaming console also adds how good a gaming machine is.

so i suggest, let's sit back, relax, enjoy and wait till PS3 is released and from then we can comment on how good the PS3 gaming platform is. Wink Cool
therestofus
Nope, ive been waiting for PS3 to come out so I can finally buy PS2 for a price thats worth it
Nexus4144
HELL ya i will be gettin a PS3, espically when i dont have to buy a seperate wireless internet adapter to play online. It also awsome becuase u can hook up to 7 controllers to it at once., and i think there launchin the PS3 for $400 not 500. Im sure becuase they were the the electronics convention here in vegas.
unfraggable
Shocked You guys really know your playstation stuff. I'm thinking of getting a PS3, but theres the XBOX360 and Nintendo Revolution coming out. Which console is the least expensive?
greenman
Sony is such a juggernaut...I hope microsoft keeps 'em honest...hehehe ironic aint it...
madsencarl
unfraggable wrote:
Shocked You guys really know your playstation stuff. I'm thinking of getting a PS3, but theres the XBOX360 and Nintendo Revolution coming out. Which console is the least expensive?

Nintendo Revolution - what a JOKE. Nintendo are crap now, games have matured but they've been left behind. Nintendogs? What the hell? I'm not two years old! Gimme something I can shoot to bits, then walk over with a satisfying squelch.
DecayClan
As soon as it doesn't have a keyboard and a mouse, its not good for me... I Like computers, and i hate consoles.I wouldn't buy PS3 or any other console! Burn the consoles!~ Smile
Sappho
I am really curriouse at what price they will start selling PS3, just BRD mechanic and the Cell Processor is like $2000 and they are goin to sell whole PS3 around $500. R they crazy? I bet they r. Smile

Comparing PS3 to XBox360 is a joke, there is NO chance that XBox360 could compete with PS3 from a technical standpoint. But u know, games is what makes consoles successful so we will see.

PS.: I am not buing either prolly, no time to play games anyway. Smile
Monkeydog
madsencarl wrote:
unfraggable wrote:
Shocked You guys really know your playstation stuff. I'm thinking of getting a PS3, but theres the XBOX360 and Nintendo Revolution coming out. Which console is the least expensive?

Nintendo Revolution - what a JOKE. Nintendo are crap now, games have matured but they've been left behind. Nintendogs? What the hell? I'm not two years old! Gimme something I can shoot to bits, then walk over with a satisfying squelch.

You do know, now you're probably going to be attacked at all angles, or something.

Violence =/= fun.
Just because something is violent, doesn't mean it makes a game fun. I'd much rather play Nintendogs then Halo or True Crime or something like that junk.
Nintendo knows gameplay, everyone else knows mediocory.
AzTeK
When the PS3 is released its going to be all out war between xbox360 and ps3 both competing for the people I heard that ps3 will be releasing GTA Hawaii when ps3 comes out, to blow xbox 360 away, but I also heard xbox 360 will be releasing halo 3 when the PS3 comes out Shocked .
utkufb
I don't think PS3.
I will continue with PC.
clip
i think i'll get a ps3. Very Happy and i dont really know why! maybe i just want to? ^^ or maybe because i'm sure that there'll be a lot of cool games that's going to be released on ps3?
n0obie4life
Officialized™
roeenoy
when playstation 3 will come out????

my friend told me in spring 2006

is this true?
sciondestiny
Kael wrote:
Oh, yes. The lineup.

I am a coder. And being a coder I can certainly tell you that the software has to follow the development of the hardware.
In other words, You can write some killer software, but can the hardware handle it? What happens with new technology is that the hardware is created first. You dont really know what the code is going to be capable of until you have the hardware to interact with it. It's hard to explain. Think of it as an OLD Commodore I16 trying to run Windows XP. Better yet, think about trying to write the code for WinXP using an I16. It's impossible. Therefore XP wasn't able to be designed until well after computers that could handle it were put together.

Same theory applies here. Have you even noticed the specs for the PS3? Do you even know what Blu-Ray technology is? The PS3 will be the first to have it. For those of you that don't know, Blu-Ray disc technology uses a blue-violet laser instead of a red one. Know what that means? It uses a smaller wavelength. So while cd's can hold 750Mb of data and a DVD can store just under 4.5GB, a Blu-Ray disc can hold a whopping 25 Gigs. Think of all those games that had to have 4 discs like the last FF. Thats still only about half the data that a Blu-Ray disc can hold. Imagine the possibilities there.
TV Infomercials wrote:

But wait, there's more.


The processor is a completely new type of technology itself as well. It's called Cell Technology. Aptly named for it's design if you ask me. I strongly suggest that you actually read about the architecture before you say that it's laughable at how fast it is. If you know anything whatsoever about hardware architecture then you will realize the truth behind the claims.

Code:

Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3

CPU: Cell Processor

PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory:

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:

Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:

2 TFLOPS
Storage:

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media:

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE



Think long and hard. The Ps3 is going to kick the crap out of the competition....... hands down. There is no way Microsoft or Nintendo are even coming close to this.


Hey Kael I see you are a coder. I am currently learning C++ which to you normal O.S. users means that I am learning on how to make those O.S. better lol. Actually I am only learning the basics and will continue on next year hopefully God willing. Also Kael I strongly agree with you that having a strong machine means better software. I mean you guys shouldn't really be talking, I am not talking about coders though. We know what its like to work with stuff that want to make you kill yourself lol!!! I mean the PS3 is gonna kick ass pretty big, why because Sony has been researching it over the past 7 years including the graphics card. I wouldn't be surprised if if Xbox 360 got all dirty on the shelves after PS3 came out. But that is only my views, you users see it your way. And we coders see the true way if you ask me.
moncader
Well, I wouldn't get PS3, I'm getting Nintendo Revolution, you know why? The 'revolution' part of it. The controller (you better have heard of it) isn't the really revolutionary part of it apparently, and if that aint, then i don't know what is...

Microsoft is well... microsoft...

PS3, mhmm, great graphics, MUCH better than X360, and will probably be better than Revolution in that sense.

But nintendo has a really neat (and cheap) product on hand. I mean, come on, gyros in the controller, so that you actually 'control' your character. It can't get better than that. Just imagine playing a game with a sword or something, where you actaully swing the sword yourself, not just mindless 'press A' a thousand times.., YOU fight. And for those shooters, you can point this controller like a gun, and actually aim like a gun. Cant get better than that.

So its nintendo hands down for me.
lucifertje
I'm hoping to win one.
a couple of months ago i won a ps2 because with the coming of the Xbox, they are getting rid of all the older ones. Then they can at least sell some more games for it.
It's all marketing, folks.
windval
the price of ps3 may be too high for me to afford!!

and will buy it since its price drops a bit

but i am still cannot wait for it

i think ps3 may be more funny than xbox360

i do not have confidence with the produck of microsoft!
qbawler311
PS3 will be outputting an HD signal which will look sweet on my new HDTV (JVC 52' LCD HLA-ILA). I will almost pay anything for it. I would sacrifice both pinky toes... well one pinky toe. I have to save the other pinky to for Jennifer Love Hewitt, i think she is gonna want one of my pinky toes in order for me to be able to sleep with her.
j0zman
PS3 for me all the way...I´ve seen images and ingame footage from games for the Playstation 3. I wet myself watching it.
xorcist
I was going to buy the Xbox 360 but then now I cant find it anywhere So I might just preorder the ps3 so I know that I can have a chance of getting it.
phantomllama
i was originally planning of buying the xbox 360 until i saw the specs of the ps3 (they own). i think the recolution was a huge mistake by nintendo, planning on releasing it so late + the revolution controllers are an insult to life. the ps3 controllers at first were crap but thank god they're redesigning them. also i love the fact that you can plug the ps3 into 2 hdtv's at once (thats l337).
thewrxman
I think i would prefer the PS3 over the xbox 360, even though im an xbox fan just because the ps3 is more future proof with its bluray technology and xbox is stuck with dvd which means this time ps3 may have the edge over xbox and stay the market leader. I really look forward to seeing the xbox and ps3 battle it out in New Zealand, as the 360 has not even been realeased yet and this may shorten the gap between the ps3 being realeased which means people may hold out for the ps3 rather that just buy a 360. well thats my thoughts any way Very Happy
Kelcey
I'll be getting a PS3. The only system I'm not sure of getting is the revolution. The controller sounds neats, but if nintendo is just gonna make 90 mario party games next gen, forget it.
papamurphy
Quote:
planning on releasing it so late + the revolution controllers are an insult to life. the ps3 controllers at first were crap but thank god they're redesigning them. also i love the fact that you can plug the ps3 into 2 hdtv's at once (thats l337).


I would like to see you back up the information on Sony redesigning the controller. Last I heard, that was the final design, but of course you never know they could pull a Microsoft, and make it different. Now why do most of you people bash Nintendo? Just because you have the attention span of a fly doesn't mean they don't produce good games. Last I checked Resident Evil, Zelda, and Metroid Prime were not kiddy. We also do not know what the Revolution can do, because Nintendo has kept everything under wraps, even though we can logically assume that it will be under powered, you must also realize that Gamecube was the second most powerful console this gen (Xbox more, PS2 less). So who really knows. I know that I am most looking forward to the Revolution, then an Xbox, and finally when Sony drops their price a bit, I will pick up a PS3.
ntothes
I would like to think that I will be getting one, but I'm probably going to have to wait until their price drops a bit. I didn't realize that they were coming out so soon.
XxGunner
hell yeah...all the stuff the ps3 is got to offer im going for it fopr sure since its so greeat and ownage lol and i already got ps2 thin one which is pretty cool...amzaing what technology can do Very Happy
Kelcey
papamurphy wrote:
Quote:
planning on releasing it so late + the revolution controllers are an insult to life. the ps3 controllers at first were crap but thank god they're redesigning them. also i love the fact that you can plug the ps3 into 2 hdtv's at once (thats l337).


I would like to see you back up the information on Sony redesigning the controller. Last I heard, that was the final design, but of course you never know they could pull a Microsoft, and make it different. Now why do most of you people bash Nintendo? Just because you have the attention span of a fly doesn't mean they don't produce good games. Last I checked Resident Evil, Zelda, and Metroid Prime were not kiddy. We also do not know what the Revolution can do, because Nintendo has kept everything under wraps, even though we can logically assume that it will be under powered, you must also realize that Gamecube was the second most powerful console this gen (Xbox more, PS2 less). So who really knows. I know that I am most looking forward to the Revolution, then an Xbox, and finally when Sony drops their price a bit, I will pick up a PS3.


Chances are that they are redesigning it. Chances are that was NEVER the design in the first place. They always stated it was something "in progress." Furthermore, the controller was completely missing from CES alongside the mock up of the system as well.
Dino
I must to have PS3 when it comes out
machine
I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT!

Seriously... I want PS3... crappy Spiderman font and colour schemes aside...



but what's up with those controllers?!?!?



Someone somewhere once said that the after market controller manufacturers are going to have a field day when PS3 finally comes out... and they are so right.

Dean The Machine


Last edited by machine on Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:37 am; edited 1 time in total
=ALiEN-SK=
I will DEFINITELY be getting one of the PS3's becaus ei have always been a fan of Playstation and always will be. NOBODY WILL STOP THAT! I have never really liked Microsofts CONSOLES (i say that bcoz ppl make points on windows and comps n such). I just havnt taken a liking to the XBox or 360. I love Playstation and have all the consoles, psp and most of the games (not fantasy ones with magic or crap like that tho).

All the XBox 360 Fans cant find anything to insult the PS3 about so they jump to insulting the font of the writing on the front of it saying it looks like Spiderman stuff. If thats the only thing theyve got... then thye clearly know theyve been beaten.

I LOVE YOU PLAYSTATION!!!
borrito
borrito wrote:





but yeah im gonna get this when it barely comes out but i hate the controls hopefully they come out with new controls later
Kelcey
borrito wrote:
borrito wrote:





but yeah im gonna get this when it barely comes out but i hate the controls hopefully they come out with new controls later



That's not the controller. It's been missing from displays and a recent dev report said they were using usb controllers that were mocked up like the dualshock controllers.
Monkeydog
This could mean that Sony is hurrying to steal from Nintendo again.
ggreiner9
i dont know why everyones b|itching about the controller, dont judge it just cause everyone says its stupid, how about you wait until you actually use it and then form your own opinion
ghanchi2000
Kael wrote:
Oh, yes. The lineup.

I am a coder. And being a coder I can certainly tell you that the software has to follow the development of the hardware.
In other words, You can write some killer software, but can the hardware handle it? What happens with new technology is that the hardware is created first. You dont really know what the code is going to be capable of until you have the hardware to interact with it. It's hard to explain. Think of it as an OLD Commodore I16 trying to run Windows XP. Better yet, think about trying to write the code for WinXP using an I16. It's impossible. Therefore XP wasn't able to be designed until well after computers that could handle it were put together.

Same theory applies here. Have you even noticed the specs for the PS3? Do you even know what Blu-Ray technology is? The PS3 will be the first to have it. For those of you that don't know, Blu-Ray disc technology uses a blue-violet laser instead of a red one. Know what that means? It uses a smaller wavelength. So while cd's can hold 750Mb of data and a DVD can store just under 4.5GB, a Blu-Ray disc can hold a whopping 25 Gigs. Think of all those games that had to have 4 discs like the last FF. Thats still only about half the data that a Blu-Ray disc can hold. Imagine the possibilities there.
TV Infomercials wrote:

But wait, there's more.


The processor is a completely new type of technology itself as well. It's called Cell Technology. Aptly named for it's design if you ask me. I strongly suggest that you actually read about the architecture before you say that it's laughable at how fast it is. If you know anything whatsoever about hardware architecture then you will realize the truth behind the claims.

[code]
Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3

CPU: Cell Processor

PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory:

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:

Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:

2 TFLOPS
Storage:

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media:

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE



great ps3 is greatest
and i m sure its best consol in the world waitin for it
Kelcey
Monkeydog wrote:
This could mean that Sony is hurrying to steal from Nintendo again.


Exactly what I was thinking. Unfortunately it made its way to the taipei show. Still don't think that's the final design... same goes with the console shell.
phinguyen
i'm a loyal sony consumer and i'd have to say in recent news has revealed that the ps3 is costing sony 900 to make and they'll probebly be launching it at just under 500 or near 45o. thats alot of dedication towards putting systems into homes. those of you who own psps and have updated to firmware 2.5 will be delighted to know that the ps3 will be a location free player and will be able to stream directly to your psp anywhere in the world where there is a wireless connection for your psp. along with that ps3's gonna have the blu-ray drive which will totally stomp out any pueny hd-dvd. i'm not ant-microsoft but i'd have to say that xbox is waste of time and money. and whats this crap i'm hearing about the portablegamer that microsoft is trying to get out????
cole09mcfc
it looks real gr8 but controller bit funny, i rekon it will be alright to hold though in the end. Looks like it won't be out till november in the Uk Sad so i got a while to wait to get my hands on one.
RoNiN
HELL YEAH!! dude can't wait till it comes out!
{name here}
I can't wait till the PS3 comes out. I'd like to get an actual gaming machine, not a petty emulator with little interesting games(to me, which I would rather tear the spine out of scorpion than to play games such as Nintendogs, Pokemon, and Harvest Moon(it made me think how much more I like Apple). The Xbox 360 is also a great gaming machine, but I have a feeling they'll be struggling at the end due to the DVD vs Blu-Ray or HD-DVD due to the fact that there coud be spectacular looking and sounding games at the end of this generation.
AlexNet
sciondestiny wrote:
Kael wrote:
Oh, yes. The lineup.

I am a coder. And being a coder I can certainly tell you that the software has to follow the development of the hardware.
In other words, You can write some killer software, but can the hardware handle it? What happens with new technology is that the hardware is created first. You dont really know what the code is going to be capable of until you have the hardware to interact with it. It's hard to explain. Think of it as an OLD Commodore I16 trying to run Windows XP. Better yet, think about trying to write the code for WinXP using an I16. It's impossible. Therefore XP wasn't able to be designed until well after computers that could handle it were put together.

Same theory applies here. Have you even noticed the specs for the PS3? Do you even know what Blu-Ray technology is? The PS3 will be the first to have it. For those of you that don't know, Blu-Ray disc technology uses a blue-violet laser instead of a red one. Know what that means? It uses a smaller wavelength. So while cd's can hold 750Mb of data and a DVD can store just under 4.5GB, a Blu-Ray disc can hold a whopping 25 Gigs. Think of all those games that had to have 4 discs like the last FF. Thats still only about half the data that a Blu-Ray disc can hold. Imagine the possibilities there.
TV Infomercials wrote:

But wait, there's more.


The processor is a completely new type of technology itself as well. It's called Cell Technology. Aptly named for it's design if you ask me. I strongly suggest that you actually read about the architecture before you say that it's laughable at how fast it is. If you know anything whatsoever about hardware architecture then you will realize the truth behind the claims.

Code:

Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3

CPU: Cell Processor

PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
Memory:

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:

Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:

2 TFLOPS
Storage:

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media:

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE



Think long and hard. The Ps3 is going to kick the crap out of the competition....... hands down. There is no way Microsoft or Nintendo are even coming close to this.


Hey Kael I see you are a coder. I am currently learning C++ which to you normal O.S. users means that I am learning on how to make those O.S. better lol. Actually I am only learning the basics and will continue on next year hopefully God willing. Also Kael I strongly agree with you that having a strong machine means better software. I mean you guys shouldn't really be talking, I am not talking about coders though. We know what its like to work with stuff that want to make you kill yourself lol!!! I mean the PS3 is gonna kick *** pretty big, why because Sony has been researching it over the past 7 years including the graphics card. I wouldn't be surprised if if Xbox 360 got all dirty on the shelves after PS3 came out. But that is only my views, you users see it your way. And we coders see the true way if you ask me.



The Cell Processor technology is going to blow all other competition out of the water. Its so advanced compared to all the other processors, and the xbox360 I believe only achieves its greatness through multiple proccessing technology. One thing I dont understand though, is just how much better the throughput will be.
XxPrinceValoxX
The PS3 is going to be a really good console but I just wish I could play Halo 3 on it so thats the only downside but im not going to go buy a Xbox 360 just for that so PS3 will be good
Richous05
Oh i cant wait to get my hands on a ps3 Very Happy sony for life!
EmperorBrandon
The Playstation people have done a superb job of keeping and amassing a large fanbase, same as Microsoft and Nintendo. Nintendo made my thumbs sore with the Pokemon games, Microsoft's Halo made me twitch every time I heard a fly pass by, and Kingdom Hearts AND Crash Bandicoot enchanted me for life.

I've always been more fond of Sony in terms of gameplay. I think that in a straight-up market war, Sony will come out the victor. Even if it's the most expensive, the buyer will pay for what gets him/her the most for his/her money.

And I believe that will be the PS3.

I love all gaming systems, and I'm not a "Sony Fanboy". I own a XBOX, a GC, an N64, a GBASP,a PSP, a PS2, all that jazz. But I've always gotten bored of Microsoft and Nintendo and turned on the PS2. Right now my PS2's broken, so I can't play a PS2 game. And believe me, I want to. More than anything.

In conclusion, I think that the PS3 will stumble and may fall a few times, but ultimately outsell Nintendo and Microsoft.

That's my $.02.

Emperor Brandon
Scaramanga
Well Sony fanboys, looks like you're in for a LONG wait. According to an article in Nihon Keizai Shimbun, the PS3 will be delayed until November 2006 (story courtesy of EuroGamer.) This is apparently due to issues with the copy-protection of Blu-Ray Discs. HA! I hate to say it (nah, I don't really) but I TOLD you so! By the time it makes it to Europe and North America, is this even going to be "next-gen" technology anymore?? Of course by then the 360 will be pretty firmly entrenched with gamers (and I'd wager even quite a few Sony fans won't wait that long, and just pick up a 360 or Revolution - at least if the latter is out by then too.)
mugglesquop
Not coming out until NOVEMBER!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAATTT!!!
Scaramanga
mugglesquop wrote:
Not coming out until NOVEMBER!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAATTT!!!

And that's November 2006 in JAPAN. US and European markets will probably be getting theirs in early 2007. Sony I think, really shot themselves in the foot on this one.
dark inca
I love playstation, I will buy it, but i wait at least a half year.

In the beginning the price is just to high, wait a half year or more and the price drops 50€ and even more. So i think i can wait a half year.

But wat must i do with my PS en PS2 ??? i can't sell my PS, nobody wants it Crying or Very sad And what is it worth now??? 40€ or less, Thats not worth to sell it.

Can you copy PS2/3 games with the playstation3?
Greeny
madsencarl wrote:
Well, it's soon on its way. Will you be getting the console that will could possibly flush down the Xbox 360?


Yeah its out November now....

Great. But still i can't wait for it thou Very Happy
Scaramanga
firmawao wrote:
And by the way, the PS3 will have a allround outcoming.
The PS3 will come out in november 2006 in Japan, US and Europe!

Yeah I just read about this myself. Not surprising really; Sony pretty much backed themselves into a corner on this and now HAVE to have a worldwide release on one date. Still, we're talking about 7 months from now, and nearly a year after the 360 was released. I dunno if Sony can make up for lost ground there. And is MS/Bungie can release Halo3 before then, I think they'll have Sony beat.

Also, a lot of the specs I see posted here are meaningless without side-by-side benchmarking (which I doubt we'll see until the PS3 is nearly ready to be released.)
jeffleo
xBox 360 will get owned. But PS3 is seriously too expensive ( I've read it was $1400+ ) and I'm like... WTF?! But seriously, the console spects are awesome. It's like a whole new futuristic machine set to conquer the console nation. xBox360 move aside! And Nintendo is just pure crap? =x FFX total CD is actually 3 OR 2. ( FFX + FFX-2 )

And imagine 25 gigs of space on the CD. The graphics will be so whoppingly real. And the gameplay ( i hope ) wld be really excellent. And more customization could be added. Hmmm... come to think about the possibilities of what games you can actually create...
jenius_92000
I think the price tag for the PlayStation 3 is worth it because if you compare the specs, the XBOX360 is clearly infrerior to the PS3.

PS: No offence to the Microsoft fans out there! Laughing
Simulator
Yes, yes and more yes, but mainly for MGS4, that game looks so dam good!
pppconcept
PS3 , I think it will be very costly , even xbox 360 is outta my reach , i just play games on my comp with my old card Sad . I soon hope to upgrade
selim06
Yes,when it will come to Turkey i'll get it...
Scaramanga
jenius_92000 wrote:
I think the price tag for the PlayStation 3 is worth it because if you compare the specs, the XBOX360 is clearly infrerior to the PS3.

PS: No offence to the Microsoft fans out there! Laughing

The problem really isn't whether the specs are better or worse, but whether consumers will be willing to pay a higher pricepoint than the 360, regardless of specs (and by consumers, I obviously mean your parents, because I sincerely doubt anyone in this thread is over the age of 15.) Very Happy
Mason11987
Dorsk82 wrote:
I think that with the PS3 Sony may be heading towards a real mistake. They have already admitted it is going to be expensive but I actually read somewhere that when asked about its price being prohibitive for kids and families, they stated that they didn't really care if those markets couldn't afford it. I have the money for a PS3 in spades and I am not a kid but videogames should be made accessible to all ages not just targeted at loser adults like myself!! Not only that but I think it is a real mistake to ignore the younger market as well as that of families because most really truly hardcore adult gamers are apt to just play PC games anyways!! Just my two cents... Wink


They never stated they didn't care, stop quasi-quoting things you made up. It is expensive because it is a technological beast really. But they never said they don't care.

TeK wrote:
Looking at the current lineup no. Only two of the games caught my eye. Maybe when more games are anounced


At least they MIGHT have a killer-app, the 360 has yet to have one, maybe obvlion, but if MGS comes out with the PS3, that will be a console selling game.


SilverDogg wrote:


yea, thats right, because if you have the strongest specs you are 100% sure to win! oh wait, thats not right =O. ps2 was the worst one, but still sold most. OMFG =O.

and besides, why is sony rushing to get blu-ray out there? dvd isnt dead yet, and wont be for a long time. and if they are going to sell ps3 for about $500, how crappy will it be considering a regular blu-ray will cost MORE than $1000?


Because HD is out there, and IS going to be popular in the next few years.

The PS2 cost less then a DVD player and they both came out around the same time? I seriously doubt the PS2 was crappy, it isn't as graphically powerful as the xbox, but the gap isn't huge at all.

Nexus4144 wrote:
HELL ya i will be gettin a PS3, espically when i dont have to buy a seperate wireless internet adapter to play online. It also awsome becuase u can hook up to 7 controllers to it at once., and i think there launchin the PS3 for $400 not 500. Im sure becuase they were the the electronics convention here in vegas.


I would be surprised if they got it under $500. $500 isn't a bad price for what you get at all.

madsencarl wrote:
unfraggable wrote:
Shocked You guys really know your playstation stuff. I'm thinking of getting a PS3, but theres the XBOX360 and Nintendo Revolution coming out. Which console is the least expensive?

Nintendo Revolution - what a JOKE. Nintendo are crap now, games have matured but they've been left behind. Nintendogs? What the hell? I'm not two years old! Gimme something I can shoot to bits, then walk over with a satisfying squelch.


Nintendogs is one of the highest selling games recently on ALL consoles EVERYWHERE. You are in the minority my friend, seriously. You can have your opinion, but statistics aren't lying, their concept of games sells BIG.

AzTeK wrote:
When the PS3 is released its going to be all out war between xbox360 and ps3 both competing for the people I heard that ps3 will be releasing GTA Hawaii when ps3 comes out, to blow xbox 360 away, but I also heard xbox 360 will be releasing halo 3 when the PS3 comes out Shocked .


Halo 3 is not going to come out anytime near the PS3 release.

Scaramanga wrote:
jenius_92000 wrote:
I think the price tag for the PlayStation 3 is worth it because if you compare the specs, the XBOX360 is clearly infrerior to the PS3.

PS: No offence to the Microsoft fans out there! Laughing

The problem really isn't whether the specs are better or worse, but whether consumers will be willing to pay a higher pricepoint than the 360, regardless of specs (and by consumers, I obviously mean your parents, because I sincerely doubt anyone in this thread is over the age of 15.) Very Happy


<-- 18 Very Happy
the disturbed
I dont know why people are complaining about the controller's design... it is very logical if you think about it. It is shaped like a boomerang, so when you chuck it at the wall in frustration (like i usually do) it will come back and knock you to your senses instead of breaking on a hard surface.
eLto
just so you know it, the controller seen on the images is just the prototype. the final controller will be revealed on e3 this year.
madsencarl
News: they've scrapped the boomerang, *cough* I mean controller.
People say it's gonna come out at about $499 US. Still not worth it, I say.
LeonSKennedy
to the fanboys: Shut up.

I say this because I'm sick of fanboys bickering about which system is the best. You can throw your numbers at me and I'll just swat them away without a stray thought. The only thing that matters is the QUALITY of the games and the QUALITY of the support. Of course, Sony should definately come down on the price. I'll say that much. But they just started getting a profit from PS2 last year, so it's no wonder that they want to up the price on this one. The only thing that will stop someone from buying a PS3 (other than the price) will be their immature fanboyism that makes them hate all other systems than the one they own. I'm a Sony fan myself, mainly because if you put a Final Fantasy game in front of me I won't sleep for days, but that doesn't mean I won't play XBox just because someone else made it. I couldn't care less what system a game is on, as long as it has awesome graphics, smooth controls, and a sense of purpose. Consoles are pretty much just really expensive pacifiers, they get whiney babies to shut up.

Thank you, and good day.
benji2
ps3 is much better. i will wait 7 more months for it i dont care i wil never buy an xbox they dont appeal to me at all. ps3 all the way!!!
Hunter
In my opinion the PS3 sums up to be -
Overpriced
Controlers are ugly
Screenshots look to be the same as the 360.

With an estimate on the PS3 now on to be £300/480. This is WAAAY overprice. The 360 comes in at £280 with its best package. Which I still think is over priced. The ps3 controlers are horrible, and they are definatly not the right shape to be comfortable. And why do they keep puttin it back? Thats getting really anoying, its been put back 3/4 times now. With a release date now for the end of 2006.
Master-
Sometime i will surely buy it. Just not now.

Need alot mor cash, pluss a new tv. >_<
screamingdecay
Too bad the PS3 and Xbox 360 are on par.

Getting both tho.
redhawk1044
I will most definatly be getting the PS3 when it is released for sale. I have been in line when each of the first two PS's were released and will be standing in line with a smile on my face when this one is released.
pennykia
comparing PS3 n Xbox = =!?
for me is just like comparing linux and windows lolx

personally the hardware spec of PS3 is too tough ! hopefully thier technology is already mature....
screamingdecay
But we must love how Sony tuts that 1080P is True HD when it really isnt haha. and 1080P is the only way to go. Too bad there games arnt even going to play in 1080P like they said but upscale how retarted they lie about alot of crap.

Now we have Bluray and HD-DVD might be making a new format to stop the format war wouldent this delay the PS3 because its using an bluray disc and a new format will make the bluray format gone? Some thing like that sort?

I'm glad that there trying to work the format war out tho.
Joe944
Those of you wondering about price, latest news suggests that the price will be around $600. The reasoning for this is blu-ray of course.

The reason the PS3 is not out right now is because blu-ray isn't ready yet. The actual value of having the blu-ray capabilities in the PS3 is only currently speculation. Who knows how well the format will do once released.

Also, it is impossible to judge the power of the console at this current junction, but I have a good feeling that the potential of the PS3 > Xbox 360.

Of course this is just my opinion.

(The dual shock is an awesome controller design. Such that they used a very similar controller design for the PS2 as they did for the PSX. They understand controller design. Do you really think that they will have the PS3 controller be some piece of garbage? Think twice.)

Can't wait to see what they do as far as using the PSP with the PS3. Imagine the possibilities, although I wouldn't get your hopes up.
novisdesign
Cant justify spending that much for games. I dont care what it has, over 300 dollars is rediculas for video games. I'll stick with my sega game gear.
Sinars
Does anyone know if the PS3 is being released in. Australia at the same. Time as it is in the rest. Of the world?
elyo-luk
ps3 is the worst is similar than ps2....and the price.... i won't buy it!!! never!!!
screamingdecay
I don't call editing an Geforce 6800 and adding on 256 more Ram onto it "Next Gen GPU" but I will still get PS3, I aready got and enjoy my 360. Also will get an WII
RoNiN
I will definately Get Ps3 but only after the first price drop. Razz im hoping it will come out b4 my birthday... lol
urbanbuddha
LeonSKennedy wrote:
to the fanboys: Shut up.

I say this because I'm sick of fanboys bickering about which system is the best. You can throw your numbers at me and I'll just swat them away without a stray thought. The only thing that matters is the QUALITY of the games and the QUALITY of the support. Of course, Sony should definately come down on the price. I'll say that much. But they just started getting a profit from PS2 last year, so it's no wonder that they want to up the price on this one. The only thing that will stop someone from buying a PS3 (other than the price) will be their immature fanboyism that makes them hate all other systems than the one they own. I'm a Sony fan myself, mainly because if you put a Final Fantasy game in front of me I won't sleep for days, but that doesn't mean I won't play XBox just because someone else made it. I couldn't care less what system a game is on, as long as it has awesome graphics, smooth controls, and a sense of purpose. Consoles are pretty much just really expensive pacifiers, they get whiney babies to shut up.

Thank you, and good day.


hear hear! I'm in the same boat as you are.

From personal experience with SONY products: TVs, MD-Players, DVD-players, DVD-Burners, PSP, PS2 and so on. The quality of their electronics have greatly deteriorated over the years and the length of their warranty decreased (5 years >> 1 year >> 90 days).

As well, Sony's first batch of each console always suffered some problems . The ps2 had a weak laser, playing vertical would cause DVDs to heat up the system, movie DVDs were not advised to be played on the PS2. THe PSP and the Slim PS2 having problems with their AC Adaptors.

After the hiroshima bombings, SONY tried to make their electronics exceed the quality of their competitors at least 2 folds. Now that they are a multi-billion dollar company, their success and philosophy (IMO) of form over function then fix up the function later on, has gotten to their heads.

On another note, the price of the PS3 was stated to be "above next gen consoles, but relatively cheaper than a blu-ray player" by Sony Europe President George Fornay. Though that news is a bit old now, recently stated @ http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/ps3possiblyforusd399.shtml

the PS3 will be 399USD, which is too much of an optimistic view. I place my bet on the system to be at least 500USD considering the technology (cell-technology and blu-ray won't be cheap)

@To those basing their argument on graphics:
Have you checked how Ultra-High-End PCs are capable of? For one, the graphics chip by nVidia is already available in their latest chip. Add in SLi capablity, you already have the graphics power to be more powerful than the PS3. PCs were always better than the consoles in terms of power, but programming a game to be stable on most PCs is difficult and those who want to have the best graphics would easily shell out a couple grand for them. If you want dual 256MB SLi graphic cards, you'll be down $2K

As well, if you're planning to get any next gen system, be sure to invest into a HDTV, if you haven't got on already. (Don't forget, plasma TVs such since it is organic, it WILL die after a couple of years, DLP LCD all the way). The same thing plagues the 360 when games will only look good on a HDTV, otherwise it will look subpar on a normal TV.

In summary:
- Wait out for Sony to drop their price and wait for others to see how the quality of the system is. I usually wait a year
- Specs aren't everything, sure it'll make games run fast and look pretty, but GAMES make or break a system.[/url]
madsencarl
I really want to get the next GTA on PS3, mainly because I reckon they'll have the online mode going strong by then, but I'm still not sure whether it's worth forking out all that money...
usman
Of course I will be getting an PS3 when the price drops a little bit. I think it is really good. I may just get someone to get the PS3 from abroad as it usually turns to be cheaper. I like it. The design is good. The quality will be much better and the games will look better.
I hope they develop a new slim line version of it like the PS2 slimline
Reign


alot of money...
Scorpio
usman wrote:
Of course I will be getting an PS3 when the price drops a little bit. I think it is really good. I may just get someone to get the PS3 from abroad as it usually turns to be cheaper. I like it. The design is good. The quality will be much better and the games will look better.
I hope they develop a new slim line version of it like the PS2 slimline


But you must be prepared to shell out a large amount on buying the CDs or rather the DVDs and Blu Ray Discs of the games,

A PS2 game(original) costs around 30$ at the least,.

You can expect a PS3 one to cost about 50$ at the least
condor666
I think my computer is much better(AMD Athlon X2 3800+) so if i want i could make evolve it, so why should i buy a ps3 who is slower and where i couldn't write here in the forum.
urbanbuddha
scorpio wrote:
usman wrote:
Of course I will be getting an PS3 when the price drops a little bit. I think it is really good. I may just get someone to get the PS3 from abroad as it usually turns to be cheaper. I like it. The design is good. The quality will be much better and the games will look better.
I hope they develop a new slim line version of it like the PS2 slimline


But you must be prepared to shell out a large amount on buying the CDs or rather the DVDs and Blu Ray Discs of the games,

A PS2 game(original) costs around 30$ at the least,.

You can expect a PS3 one to cost about 50$ at the least


That's why you get the rich people buy it first and wait a year or so to make the cost of the media to be more "affordable". It always happens with disc media so you could expect the same with Blu-ray.

The biggest gamble though is the acceptance of Blu-Ray, most people will have to dish out more than $1000 for a Blu-Ray player, or buy the PS3 at the cheapest for ~$640USD (according to the last post). If blu-ray is going to turn out to be a rehash of the Betamax, Sony gots a lot of explaining to do and lose their expected revenue.
Scorpio
urbanbuddha wrote:
scorpio wrote:
usman wrote:
Of course I will be getting an PS3 when the price drops a little bit. I think it is really good. I may just get someone to get the PS3 from abroad as it usually turns to be cheaper. I like it. The design is good. The quality will be much better and the games will look better.
I hope they develop a new slim line version of it like the PS2 slimline


But you must be prepared to shell out a large amount on buying the CDs or rather the DVDs and Blu Ray Discs of the games,

A PS2 game(original) costs around 30$ at the least,.

You can expect a PS3 one to cost about 50$ at the least


That's why you get the rich people buy it first and wait a year or so to make the cost of the media to be more "affordable". It always happens with disc media so you could expect the same with Blu-ray.

The biggest gamble though is the acceptance of Blu-Ray, most people will have to dish out more than $1000 for a Blu-Ray player, or buy the PS3 at the cheapest for ~$640USD (according to the last post). If blu-ray is going to turn out to be a rehash of the Betamax, Sony gots a lot of explaining to do and lose their expected revenue.


This is the reason why piracy flourishes more than any other legit business.

The mod chips they put into the PS2 enables any pirated game to be played in it.

Sony may adapt a foolproof solution to this, but, as always, the pirates are one step ahead.. Razz
Jayfarer
The $500 version will apparently also lack HDMI, built-in Wi-Fi and memory card support.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/e3/499-playstation-3-to-be-gimped-172418.php

Either version is an obscene amount to ask from the industry. They can't keep pushing the envelope on price and expect people to continue going along with it. I hope it sells a pitiful amount to the point where they're forced to drop the price sooner than expected, so that the masses won't have to shell out over half a grand for a console alone.
Scaramanga
scorpio wrote:
The mod chips they put into the PS2 enables any pirated game to be played in it.

Sony may adapt a foolproof solution to this, but, as always, the pirates are one step ahead.. Razz

In all fairness, most mod-chips for PS2s are to enable playing Region 2 games, and not piracy. With the BluRay, that will be a thing of the past, since I believe Japan will be in the same region as most Western countries (and any countries not subscribing to the Berne Convention will be in a totally seperate region, to prevent piracy.)
phinguyen
i'm so freakin glad they tossed the damn batarang controller and decided on the DUALSHAKE controller. but what the hell happen to changing the font of the ps3? are they gonna keep the same worn-out spiderman type face??? hey, i like spiderman, i've been a fan since i could read, and moviez are great (cant wait to see the new one with venom and sandman) but sony should keep thier movie themes and console wars seperate like it was orginized religion and publick skoolz. what does everyone else think of the spider-man typeface?


maybe itz just a promo gag to hype up SPIDERMAN3 sublimliminally??????
Scaramanga
phinguyen wrote:
i'm so freakin glad they tossed the damn batarang controller and decided on the DUALSHAKE controller. but what the hell happen to changing the font of the ps3? are they gonna keep the same worn-out spiderman type face??? hey, i like spiderman, i've been a fan since i could read, and moviez are great (cant wait to see the new one with venom and sandman) but sony should keep thier movie themes and console wars seperate like it was orginized religion and publick skoolz. what does everyone else think of the spider-man typeface?


maybe itz just a promo gag to hype up SPIDERMAN3 sublimliminally??????

Did it ever occur to you that it was a typeface that existed BEFORE the Spider-Man films? Guess what? It did. The Mata typeface was designed by Greg Samata (of Samata/Mason Design.)
chizeled
I don't really care that the typeface is different, that will not persuade me to buy or not to buy. I just want to see the console. Anyone know of a site that I can view the new console? If I look at it I might want to buy it. What is the graphics resolution? Are they going to top X-Box 360. I know someone that bought the x-box and thought the graphics were great. I hope it isn't disappointing, sony has had so much flubs lately, I hope this does well for them.
urbanbuddha
chizeled wrote:
I don't really care that the typeface is different, that will not persuade me to buy or not to buy. I just want to see the console. Anyone know of a site that I can view the new console? If I look at it I might want to buy it. What is the graphics resolution? Are they going to top X-Box 360. I know someone that bought the x-box and thought the graphics were great. I hope it isn't disappointing, sony has had so much flubs lately, I hope this does well for them.


You can look at pics virtually anywhere, google is your friend. You can also try searching at gamespot or IGN.

As for the specs, they are on the first page.

One thing i'm really concern about is the developer's motivation to program games on this system. If anyone had experience doing multi-threaded/multi-processor programing, they know it takes a lot more time to create a workable code, let alone debugging it. Depsite the better peak specs of the PS3, some game developers are going to sweat blood for the next few years to make good games on the ps3.
cdtgames
Shocked
If the PS3 will be that much around there...I don't even want to think how expensive it will be here in Brazil. Maybe 2-3 years after the release it gets affordable here too Confused .
Providence
I wouldn't mind one like.

It looks good, seen the specs.

Don't make much sense to me like, but from what i hear.

It will beat anything hands down. Quoted from another members post.

Althought, it will be pricy to get one. But, i think i'd be worth it.
wsco
the problem for me is money
if i can save much money
sure i will buy it
Shocked
thuganomics
Ive been waiting for Playstation 3 ever since i heard of it Smile
Especially because i saw the Killzone 2 trailer, man it owns!
I would buy Playstation 3 right when the price drops down by a bit.
I have Playstation, Playstation 2 and Playstation Portalble and they are all working great!
chizeled
Quote:
Ive been waiting for Playstation 3 ever since i heard of it
Especially because i saw the Killzone 2 trailer, man it owns!
I would buy Playstation 3 right when the price drops down by a bit.
I have Playstation, Playstation 2 and Playstation Portalble and they are all working great!


Where can I see the Killzone 2 trailer. I would like to see it. I might get for the kids when the price goes down. I would like to look at the graphics first. Where can I look at the specs? Let me know. Thanks.
Kelcey
condor666 wrote:
I think my computer is much better(AMD Athlon X2 3800+) so if i want i could make evolve it, so why should i buy a ps3 who is slower and where i couldn't write here in the forum.



Do you even know how the Cell works?
oye816
i like ps3, because it can play FFXIII.
FFX series is my favorite game, so i am waiting ps3 to be saled.
Mr. McCoy
No doubt, I need the Playstation 3 to play Metal gear solid 4 Wink
The_Gamer294
i might get the ps3, im planing on getting the 360 but if the games suck goodbye 360 hello ps3
urbanbuddha
chizeled wrote:
Quote:
Ive been waiting for Playstation 3 ever since i heard of it
Especially because i saw the Killzone 2 trailer, man it owns!
I would buy Playstation 3 right when the price drops down by a bit.
I have Playstation, Playstation 2 and Playstation Portalble and they are all working great!


Where can I see the Killzone 2 trailer. I would like to see it. I might get for the kids when the price goes down. I would like to look at the graphics first. Where can I look at the specs? Let me know. Thanks.


Try here: http://ps3.ign.com/ or http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/index.html

Games to look out for (in terms of graphics) are Metal Gear Solid 4 and Killzone 2.

Personally, it really depends on your kids and what games they like. Don't buy a system simply because it has the best graphics. I would suggest to take a look at all 3 next gen systems and then make a decision. ONLY if you haven't done so.

For something thats cheaper and directed to a younger active audience (and no I'm not saying Nintendo is a kiddie console), the Nintendo Wii is good system to invest in. At the very least, the damage by your children, if any, done on the system would be financially minimized ^_^

Remember these consoles are going to be expensive with the PS3 ranging from $500-600 USD and you would mostly need a HDTV to get the best performance.
Kelcey
chizeled wrote:
Quote:
Ive been waiting for Playstation 3 ever since i heard of it
Especially because i saw the Killzone 2 trailer, man it owns!
I would buy Playstation 3 right when the price drops down by a bit.
I have Playstation, Playstation 2 and Playstation Portalble and they are all working great!


Where can I see the Killzone 2 trailer. I would like to see it. I might get for the kids when the price goes down. I would like to look at the graphics first. Where can I look at the specs? Let me know. Thanks.


You don't want to see the killzone 2 trailer. It was pre rendered as much of the PS3 stuff was. Compare what you saw at e3 05 and e3 06 and you'll see it's a big let down. Games you should look at are Tekken 6 and Warhawk. If you do wanna see the best graphics... look at Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII (part I believe to be pre rendered). However, only few developers will be able to make games that good. The difference is easily noticable in the ps2 generation as well.
bercha
Hell ya! I am so going to buy one! I saw the demo on TV which was incredible! Very Happy
mathechew
it's to expensive and experimental. look at the controller! i think nothin says nerd more thatn waving a nunchuck around to play a game. sometimes, it's just easier to conform...
ltbennett
ps3 full pakage + controler = £600 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is whey too expencive for a console total rip off compared to xbox 360 + nice controler + game around £275 alot cheaper
Kelcey
ltbennett wrote:
ps3 full pakage + controler = £600 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is whey too expencive for a console total rip off compared to xbox 360 + nice controler + game around £275 alot cheaper


You wanna try that one again? How is it a rip off of the 360? The Cell is a completely different architecture than the 360's 3 core architecture. Furthermore, they announced the research of the Cell FAR BEFORE the 360's specs were even released.

So you wanna play the math game?
Let's compare the "core" editions.

PS3
20 gig hard drive
Blu-ray drive
free online gaming (that's what they're saying as of now)

360
no hard drive
standard dvd drive
40->50 dollars a year for online gaming

Say you don't game online... You're paying 200 more for a blu-ray drive and a 20 gig hard drive. Technically speaking, the PS3 is "better" value IF you wanted a blu-ray drive. Sony is forcing it down your throat which doesn't weigh well. If you don't want a blu-ray drive, then yeah a 360 core is a better deal in a different perspective. However, it isn't in a technological perspective.

What about the "premiums?"

PS3
60 gig hard drive
blu-ray
HDMI
Wifi
Media slots
free online gaming (supposedly)

360
20 gig hard drive
standard dvd
no HDMI
no wifi
no media slots
40->50 for online gaming per year

Once again, for 200 more, you're getting a whole crap load. Whether you want it or not is the question. Same logic holds as it does with the stripped versions.

When you put it in a technological perspective, ASSUMING you wanted all that crap in the PS3, then the PS3 is hands down a better deal over the 360.

So yeah, the PS3 is not a rip off of the 360. Whether it's "expensive" to compared to the 360, it's up to your needs and what you want. Personally I'd do without the blu ray drive, wifi, and media slots.

Well let's not stop there, let's compare the core ps3 and premium 360.

core ps3
20 gig hard drive
blu ray
free online gaming

premium 360
20 gig hard drive
dvd drive
40-50 dollars/year for online gaming

The core ps3 has everything that the premium 360 has plus a blu ray drive. That comes at the expense of 100 dollars. I certainly don't find it worth it. Technologically speaking it's by far worth it. Me, you, and probably 70 percent of the gaming community don't want a blu ray drive right now.

Finally, I live in America. If Sony is completely ripping you off in your currency, I do feel bad for you.
b-n-g
I want it its super console! good games like...dragonballz budakai and soulcalibur!!! Cool Exclamation Exclamation
urbanbuddha