I want to know how many people have actually read the book of mormon. And also what people think of it.
I want to know how many people have actually read the book of mormon. And also what people think of it.
I saw the South Park episode about it and nope it seems pretty fake to me.
LMAO! I don't really think you should base your opinions off South Park.
I have read parts of the book of Mormon and had pleanty of Mormons at my house, I'm kind of 'iffy' on the whole thing actually. Shove it in my face with hard evidence and I'll believe it. Some people can have faith without knowing for sure, I don't.
I have heard about it and where I live their are always people giving you cards about them and stuff. I agree i think it is abit 'iffy!
I own a book of mormon, and i'm not religous or anything.
I accepted it along with an introduction by two interesting people.
I think it's more or less like the Buddhist Tripitaka or the Hindu Vedas. I think they are all extrememly instructional on maintaining stability on a personal and global level. It requires of a person very certain perspectives and degrees of mental ability to understand (that is, to successfully interpret and maintain belief in) any one doctrine.
So whether fiction or not, i still respect it.
Im Mormon, im not really too religious, but its just a religion, were not like a cult or anything...whether or not The Book of Mormon is true, well it just depends on what you believe and what you dont believe. Its just like if you asked someone if The Bible is true, its all on what you believe.
oooh Book of Mormon/s..
we've studied that in world history at school. they're the ones who have like big and gorgeous churches right? So yeah, they're rich. lol, but anyway.. i don't really believe it because I find the Holy Bible more accurate and it is what most religions use. And I don't really think I'll become a saint or someone holy if I become a good Mormon... nah, i just don't really dig it ya know? Oh and by the way, I'm a Protestant. A Methodist to be really exact.
"Truth? What is truth?"
Actualy I think only the Christians use it.
The Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc have their own holy books.
here is a link to the official site.
Of "The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints".
Nickname the Mormons.
And this will answer a few questions you may have.
Now as to anyone telling you it is true or not. You have to find out for yourself. And the only one that can tell you whether it's true or not would be God himself. wether you believe in God or not.
And if you don't believe in God and you got an answer anyway. Then what would that mean.
the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints members use the Bible and the book of Mormon together. As the Bible is a record of the Jews dealings with God. And the book of Mormon is a record of the ancient American people dealing with God. Now if God is the God of the whole world. Then would he teach his people one thing on one side of the world and something completely different on the other.
So therefore the Bible and the book of Mormon used together can help to gain a better understanding. And God has also dealt with other people in other parts the world and and they have records also of God's dealings with them.
and when they are brought forward then they should also strengthen what the Bible says and any other records that are written by those that have had dealings with God.
that south park episode is realy a good one. if mormons are exist they have to be funny people.
The book of mormon is filled with MANY 'interesting' claims which contradict Jesus' own words. That's a little odd for a book from people who claim to be Christian, isn't it?
No, actually its their account of Jesus and native Americans which diametrically opposes Jesus' assertion that he would not return again until the end of time. Time seems to be continuing.
Christian concept of God versus Mormonism
Are mormons really Christian?
Does anybody think religions have a life cycle?
Has the mormon religion evolved or changed significantly since it's inception?
Many people will bash on the Book of Mormon without really knowing what it is or even reading it. They hear the word "Mormon" and think "crazy religious idiots". To find out if it's true or not you have to investigaste it yourself. Reading and praying are the only way to go about it. You shouldn't trust solely upon another man's understanding of the Book of Mormon, or the Bible for that matter. Of course Cathloic guy is going to say the Catholic church is true, and of course Baptist guy will say Baptists are right, and Mormon guy is going to say the Mormons are right. It's confusing really. But you have to investigate it yourself. It's really the only way.
I don't really believe in the book of Mormon (obviously I am not Mormon). Mormonism is relatively new compared to the 2000+ years that Christianity has been in existence, I believe the Church was founded in the 1800s (correct me if I'm wrong). I really don't think that you can just add something like that.
Hey, I know this topic is dating a bit now.. but am just browsing the forums for the first time. I am a 'mormon' and have been my whole life. In context of what the Bible actually can be defined as.... the Book of Mormon is no different at all.
I put it this way:
Bible is a record of God's dealings with the people living in and around what we now call the 'Middle East' (namely Israel). It contains the writings of many 'prophets' who were inspired to write the word of God for the people of that time, but also for us today. It stands as a testament of God and his existence.
The Book of Mormon is exactly the same thing... only that it 's writers lived on and around Meso-America. They once lived in Jerusalem (and that's where the first writings were written). The people now journeyed to Meso-America and continued to pass down the records through generation to generation. It is written by many 'prophets' who were inspired by God up until 425 AD. It also stands as a testament of God and his existence. Two witnesses are better than one!
If you believe the Bible, you really ought to believe the Book of Mormon. Both come from the same source.... God.
Well, it's not like I've read it or anything, but the reason I've heard for calling you mormens a "cult" is the fact that you take someone else (Mr. Morman) above the Bible. You can say that's not true all you want, but I'm pretty sure I believe in my church's believes, and that they are based on the Bible, and therefore, for me, if your "Book of Mormen" controdicts my believes, it is controdicting the Bible. And I don't really care to have a debate from the Bible on everyone of my believes...
In other words, I don't really think it's a debaitable subject. Someone has to believe in all the Morman's believes before they can even think of eccepting the Book of Morman.
We don't consider the Book of Mormon above the Bible. We use them both. Both are really the same thing. Let's say just for instance, there are a people living in Meso-America, a people that want to know God. Let's say he communes with them through a prophet, just like in Israel. If God commanded theses prophets to write the words he spoke and keep those records.... and later we were to find them and read them... would we reject them because we already have the words that he spoke to prophets in Israel? In other words... would we reject more of his words simply because we already have some?
I don't think we would... and i certainly don't think we should. We already have the Bible... but then the records of these other prophets from Meso-America (who did actually exist) were found and translated. As a christian myself.. i didn't reject these writings also simply because i already had the bible. The Bible and these other records (now called the book of mormon) are to be used together. They are BOTH God's word. Why reject one simply because you have the other?
And for those who reject the book of mormon without even reading it.... I ask you this: how do you know the Bible is true? Did you find out for yourself or did someone just tell you so and you accepted it? If you hadn't ever read it.... how would you know if it was true or not?
Read the book of mormon! Test it and find out for yourself. I have done so. I read it and i prayed about it. I know it is God's word.... and so can you.
First of all lets get back on topic. Forget about anying but the things that are stated as facts in the book of mormon. Compare those to historical facts, they aren't accurate. Also where are the original manuscripts? The guy that put together the book of morman was a convicted con man. He claimed to find the rosetta stone and then translated these documents. So the things that the book of mormon are based on aren't even available to anyone for verification. There are so many things wrong with the mormon fraud it's not even funny just look some up on the internet.
dark_lard: if you want to get back on topic, I suppose you will need to know what the topic is... pdwatermelon
"I want to know how many people have actually read the book of mormon. And also what people think of it." That being the topic... i think i'm covering it pretty closely.
As for your topic... firstly...
1. what historical facts are you talking about?
2. Joseph Smith was a convicted con man? (????????) btw. need i point out to you that Moses was a murderer?! (according to the Bible)
oh... and as for the original manuscripts... an angel from God took them from Joseph after he had finished translating them. God wanted the book of mormon to be believed through faith... not "evidence". One last thing: it is very easy to find anti-mormon websites, but that's hardly the place for a sincere enquirer to find truth. It's like a muslim wanting to learn about Christianity, and searching through muslim anti-Christian websites in hope to find it. Need i tell you how many contradictions and faults there are in the bible? ...the muslim websites tell you the answer.
*remembers all the anti-SDA/EGWhite websites and shudders*
Yeah, when a website is put up for the express purpose of putting someone down, I don't think their a creditable source... (although I wouldn't think it a bad idea to research the historical facts in the book of mormon as apposed to recorded history... )
And I wasn't saying we should reject the book of Mormon because we already have the Bible, I was saying that the only way I'm going to accept it is if it's in complete harmony with the Bible.
what does Moses have to do with anything here? and being a murderer actually has very little to do with one's credibility.. but being a con-man pretty much means you shouldn't believe someone when he says "God is giving me all sorts of great information that you absolutely can't verify.. but take my word for it, and give me all your money.. oh, and I think I'll take these 23 women to be my wives"
excuse the rest of us for being a bit skeptical.. especially since the Mormons have a rather colorful history involving extortion, rioting, mobs burning down newspaper buildings, killing women and children, etc
Lol, to be honest as soon as I saw this thread I thought of the Trey Parker and Matt Stone film Orgazmo... made me laugh.
same for me, actually.. I watched that movie again just a few days ago
Actually, they have hit a lot of issues straight on, and been correct about much of it.
The Jews use the Holy Bible also. The difference is that the New Testament is removed along with a few books. Jews, Christians, and Muslims have similar texts(thought the Koran has more differences to the Jewish and Christian Bibles, they do have people from the other two bibles).
Damn right, it's done in quite a clever way but then laced over with quite crude comedy.