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IceAgeD
Old Times!!!

I played this good game for 6 months and I don't play on Blizzard...

Someone here played on Blizz yet?


Last edited by IceAgeD on Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm; edited 1 time in total
Nirotu
IceAgeD wrote:
Old Times!!!

I played this good game for 2 years and I don't play on Blizzard...

Someone here played on Blizz yet?


I kinda find that hard to believe since it's been out for little over a year...

Anyway, i currently play... it's a great MMO for the casual gamer out there, so it works for me.
picsite
world of warcraft seems like an amazing game but i cant afford to keep paying every month...by the way how much does it cost for you every month?
Dread Lord Chaos
$20 a month
eqfan
almost 1 year since play world of warcraft(MMORPG version)
elcyron
IceAgeD wrote:

I played this good game for 2 years and I don't play on Blizzard...

Someone here played on Blizz yet?


there is a number of pirateservers ( no i will not provide any links) some of them provide lots of XP or let you start at lvl 60. problem is they're hardly mmorpg with 10 people playing.
playing with blizz is best for playing even though it costs some money.

to answer the question: i did, i do and i will be playing on blizzardrealms for a long time
althalus
What's this, the 4th or 5th thread about WoW? Rolling Eyes

I play on eu server Stormreaver (pvp) and have been from about a week after the release (due to ordering the game from UK, took a few days for shipping).

Now, I believe you could have been playing the game for longer than the year it's been around (with the public beta and all). I managed to play the final beta and fell in love with the game enough to play it legally. (Razz)

Blizzard is doing a pretty good job, imo. Sure the servers lagg like shizzle and sometimes it's hard to connect and what not, but overall though, I quite enjoy the game and give cred to Bliz for it.

Edit: And I pay about $12 per month. Not $20 like someone suggested, although I guess it varys, since I play in Europe. *shrug* Smile
tefa_taftaf2010
Quote:
Someone here played on Blizz yet?


i'm like you
Jamatu
I've been playing wow since the second day it came out, Not sure how you've been playing it for over 2 years though since it hasn't been out (Post-Beta) for a year yet.
WaCk0
I Just started playing it on a friends Acct i love the game love the graphix but hate the price .. for the first 7 months you pay like 100 Euro's then 66 euro's per 6 months

Verry expensive but i think its worth it
krazyfire
its expensive but is really addictive
bkatz
IceAgeD wrote:
Old Times!!!

I played this good game for 6 months and I don't play on Blizzard...

Someone here played on Blizz yet?


you mean you use the hacked private servers Embarassed

blizz is much better...
elcyron
hrtorrent wrote:

I play WoW for 1 month and I never pay. There's several good free servers. At this server maybe is'nt that large number of players, but it free....


maybe you missed the point inf multiplayergaming... WoW is simluating a living world. you might as well play a singleplayergame if the number of players is low
nam_siddharth
I like warcraft series of Blizzard. I have played all games of this series exept "World of Warcraft". I hope it will also gr8 game like other games of Warcraft series. I have broadband connection now, so I will soon buy this game.
Xiecho
Shocked Wow !!! I ve never had a free Exclamation WOW server > are that is a kind of "emulator" server Question Confused
yyh21m
It's a great game!
DX-Blog
Xiecho wrote:
Shocked Wow !!! I ve never had a free Exclamation WOW server > are that is a kind of "emulator" server Question Confused

It are emulators yeh, and well yeh, blizzard can even care less about them. Just try them out and you'll see why... They just don't offer WOW... They give you a huge map and extreme lag, that's it. The most populated private servers I've seen got like 150 players on it at once and crash like every 10 minutes due to instability.

They are absolutely nothing compared to the official servers.
moncader
its not really that expensive, if you have a job, even a simple one, its affordable, I play it, pay for it, and I'm a student at a tech institute, forking out 15,000 bucks a year Razz
elcyron
DX-Blog wrote:
Xiecho wrote:
Shocked Wow !!! I ve never had a free Exclamation WOW server > are that is a kind of "emulator" server Question Confused

It are emulators yeh, and well yeh, blizzard can even care less about them. Just try them out and you'll see why... They just don't offer WOW... They give you a huge map and extreme lag, that's it. The most populated private servers I've seen got like 150 players on it at once and crash like every 10 minutes due to instability.


do you realise that by posting a link and asking people to join this server you endanger this forum to be shut down by blizz lawyers?
Yjaxygames
I wish I had World of Warcraft, but I can't afford it.
teriyaki
i used to work at internet cafe..
i can tell u there're people playing more than 24 hours straight with this game....
it's sick and very addictive i guess..
and personally, i love this game too
Warom
i dont like WoW its not the type of game for me. i prefer guild wars
Tsubakii
GREAT Game. Really. All I can say. It really isn't that good till you actually get to play it then WoW.. pardon the pun. :P. It gets better the farther you get, the beginning gets very repetative. But I guess that was the same as Diablo II aswell. Anyways, great game, really worth buying.
jozsi1983
Yea its a very awesome game. If you want to play by the rules you can get on the OFFICAL servers but if you want to play on private servers you can. I don't think thats right but hey i know theres alot of poor college kids out there like me that want to play but don't have the cash. Just remember the free servers can be very unfair sometimes. Not saying I have played on any of them. I'm just saying thats what I have heard
jozsi1983
OH YEA!!! totally forgot what i was going to say. POST your character name and server and maybe we all can get together. I know some servers are full so I know people don't want to wait for 5 days to get on.
Jamatu
Blizzard care ALOT about server emulation, i've seen a few games sites shut down for just discussing it.
caaltt
I can honetly say that I've virtually stopped paying for games except for
WOW!!
I do think it's worth the money for the amazing gaming experience you get. But of course this is at their current price.
It's right now on the borderline of worth to my pocket, so if their is any increase in subscription whether before or after Burning Crusade, I'm out!

For now however, I'm just dandy Smile
michael88
$12.99 every month, almost play it for a year, not worthy
ignition
I have it, but I just mooch off a friend's account. Definitely an incredible game.
strfry
Very neat game. Played for a whole year and just recently took a break from it. Playing on the real servers is definitely the way to go -- people -- that's the reason to play an MMO. I'll probably start up again once the expansion comes out. Furbolgs! That's gotta be the new Alliance race. Wink I just wish they'd let humans be hunters. =)
Slowhand
Well I have the game, it was really expensive! I will never pay so much again for a game. Games like NFS Underground / Most Wanted have a normal price. The makers of this game have to realize that many people cant afford it!
strfry
Slowhand wrote:
Well I have the game, it was really expensive! I will never pay so much again for a game. Games like NFS Underground / Most Wanted have a normal price. The makers of this game have to realize that many people cant afford it!


What you say is true, but there are other, less expensive games for those who can't afford these high priced ones. There are enough people who can afford the high cost that companies will create products for that market too. I don't see them making it cheaper, they don't need to. They have over 5 million subscribers at the current price.
Peep
Im playing World of Warcraft!
Basiclly on Sylvanas.
I have a level 10 Mage and a Level 15 Paladin.
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electric
Its a really fun game to play with your friends Very Happy
marquis51
Well I definitely agree on what was said about free servers, it has nothing to do with the real servers that have a real community, how do you want to go to molten core with 150 people on a server... unless you cheat to get back all the equipment and then really what is the point? I wouldn't play wow if I was permanently alone in all the regions I visit.

I also think it is a great game, but definitely too expensive. It s better to plan lots of free time playing if you want to feel your money spent is worth something.

Smile
Natrualkiller
first off the bad thing is paying but more players and updates i mean its worth it :
sangook
it's too expensive
lordcody
the game is okay. i dont see how people are addicted to it. if you can hack or you now any Illegal servers you can play for free. i hack so i play for free. I also have a Player editor so everyone is maxed out in stats with all the cool items!
jerski
i like the World of Warcraft but it's too much expensive for me Sad
strfry
lordcody wrote:
the game is okay. i dont see how people are addicted to it. if you can hack or you now any Illegal servers you can play for free. i hack so i play for free. I also have a Player editor so everyone is maxed out in stats with all the cool items!


Heh, any game where you are "maxed out in stats with all the cool items" from the start is only ever going to be "okay" at best. Doesn't anybody enjoy a challenge and competition anymore?
Josso
I don't really like the comitment of paying monthly for a computer game. But I have to admit it looks very good.
°ûʰ»Jîg§åw«
I never really liked this game, it looked abit shit from what I saw from when I downloaded it.
Enderwiggin
Love this game, I have a 60 Undead Warlock on stonemaul, Its addictive, but not too much so.... It is definately my fav MMO as of yet... Razz
nakamaru
World of Warcraft is the single reason that I wish I had a better graphics card.
warning
I personally dont think so. I have played the game for about 3 months now and im bord. I got to lvl 27-29 with 3 char. Ive played with lvl 60 so dont tell be " O WELL THE GAME STARTS AT 60 ".. yea w/e... if your into the whole, im lvl 60 and i dont have to lvl anymore... but isnt the game about lvling?
Don1989
I've had the game for 9 months now and have 2 lvl 60's and am working on my third. £9.00 a month is worth it because I dont play another other game than WoW. I used to buy a game every month at least but the last game I bought before WoW was Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Unlike RPG's like FF, this MMORPG is x10 as addictive because you can never finish it. Theres always something new coming out with every patch that just wants you to play more.

It does get boring at lvl 60 but when you are in 40 man instances such as Molten Core and Blackwing Lair, then you can't help but be amazed what 40 people can achieve from different corners of the globe in one computer game Razz
falcon007
Guys say what u want, but this game is for sure the best game ever made... Blizz really did make a great job, and is still doing it with making new patches every 1-2 weeks... I have the game since it came out, and it does NOT get borring at 60. When u are 60, and u are in any normal or better guild, u will start doing 40 man raids and will get more new items and have more fun then ever. I really thank Blizz for such a great game (and awaiting Burning Crusade now Very Happy ) As for payment, it is more expensive than other games, but not than other MMO games. I mean, take a look at some other MMO's that u must also pay for and u will see that WOW rullz ! Cool

EU Doomhammer (Normal) <<----->> The Valkyries
Hatchman33
WoW seems like the best game in the world right now. I am a 17 year old kid and I have played games my whole life. I am like a gaming addict. I have no idea why I like WoW because I have only liked playing First Person Shooters like Halo2 and World War 2 games such as Call of Duty. Games like WoW always seemed like studpid sissy games to me and I always told myself I would never try them out. However, with WoW not only did I try it out, but I freakn bought the game and became addicted to it. Right now its only costing $14.99 a month to play.
Zach Ownz
Dread Lord Chaos wrote:
$20 a month


only cost 15 a month for me....
Tilly
Coming from Final Fantasy XI, I can safely say that WoW is the best MMORPG out right now. While it is not without its problems, WoW has solved a great number of the frustrations that are present in many of the previous MMORPGs.

The cost isn't too bad if you have a job. Think of it as 3 cheeseburgers a month, or one large pizza. I'd trade that for a month's worth of entertainment, sure....well as long as I'm not starving that is. Very Happy
kansloos
hmmm...

I heard World of Warcraft is a very good game, but didn't someone commited suicide because of the game?
strfry
kansloos wrote:
hmmm...

I heard World of Warcraft is a very good game, but didn't someone commited suicide because of the game?


Over five million people play this game. I wouldn't be surprised if one committed suicide because of the game. I also wouldn't be suprised if one met the love of their life because of the game. However, I would be surprised if the game was so powerful it actually caused such events to take place, like some evil sentient being that is out to take over the world.
Rotengel
I never paid for WoW. But I did GM on a free server. We did pretty good until I got bored with it and the server ended up shutting down.
Jupiter2
World Of Warcraft is just an amazing game, its pricy $20,- a month, and ive u play it only 2 days a week it getting expeniver... but it stays a nice game
bilham
i havnt played wow before because of the having to pay monthly situation yet i hear from alot of mates that its really good they play it alot even have LAN parties, do you recoment playing it?

thanks
Manix
I've played WOW for quite a while.. and it's not exactly on the official forums... but it's a very addicting game.. witch made me get bored of it after a good 2 months.. i played it so much.. i got bored.. anyway.. the concept is great..

I don't understand why it's the most played MMORPG in the world.. with games like EVE Online and Guild Wars out there... but I think it's a combination of advertising, great graphics/performance ration (attracting everyone, even with very low-end computers.. Smile ), lack of bugs (witch killed many great MMO's Mad )... overall it's a very very good game, but I can't compare it with the 1 million players in EVE Online AT THE SAME TIME (!) Cool ...
Natrualkiller
blizzard has the population and more "guild feel" shows the full game
Enderwiggin
warning wrote:
I personally dont think so. I have played the game for about 3 months now and im bord. I got to lvl 27-29 with 3 char. Ive played with lvl 60 so dont tell be " O WELL THE GAME STARTS AT 60 ".. yea w/e... if your into the whole, im lvl 60 and i dont have to lvl anymore... but isnt the game about lvling?


The game does start at 60, once you earn your own character there, but the real question is, what classes did you play? sometimes you wouldnt expect to find certain classes that are fun, fun... *Shrugs*
Travelmom
This game really makes you spend alot of time.
all obsorbing!
boringest
this game can cause you serious problems in life...if you have problem with addiction to games, it's good to avoid WoW. I've tried playing it for just 2 days, and i cannot stop now...lol...v. bad.
althalus
Actually, I don't know about that addiction factor. Sure, you get hooked, but.. I've taken two extensive "leaves" from the game of about 1 month each and I didn't feel the urge to go back and play.. (Granted, I was playing a paladin and doing a pretty lousy job, so I blame that Razz)

Recently I started playing a troll priest together with a friend (troll hunter) and we play a few hours now and then. Good fun. Smile
Jamatu
boringest wrote:
this game can cause you serious problems in life...if you have problem with addiction to games, it's good to avoid WoW. I've tried playing it for just 2 days, and i cannot stop now...lol...v. bad.

Rofl, yeah this game is VERY addicting. It has a lot of playability and blizz just keeps adding more and more for us to do and to keep us playing.

I get bored of the game sometimes but a few hours later I always come back to it Shocked
benwhite
Everyone here seen the WoW video with Leroy Jenkins? Because if you haven't, google and watch it. Absolutely hilarious.

"Leroy, you're just stupid as hell."

"At least I got chicken."

hehe.
Solugon
Oh, god. I've pulled off more than a few accidental Leeroy Jenkins myself... I'm a level 19 (soon to be 20) Tauren Druid by the name of Solugon on the Shadow Council server. I personally love the game, especially cause the server I play on is an RP server! Very Happy

The addiction factor on WoW is so huge... I've stopped playing for a few months before, so I know that you can suddenly stop playing WoW all of the sudden, with no really apparent reason. The Battlegrounds and PvP system they have make you just want to play for longer, and the graphics make me drool every time I see them. I wish they added more character customization though. Sad
Jamatu
benwhite wrote:
Everyone here seen the WoW video with Leroy Jenkins? Because if you haven't, google and watch it. Absolutely hilarious.

"Leroy, you're just stupid as hell."

"At least I got chicken."

hehe.

Old news Razz the new wow "fad" is Chuck Norris! Although he alread seems to be quickly fading, I wonder who or what will be the next!
Solugon
Yeeesh. I've actually taken a liking to sabotaging my guild's war cry...

"Talrekka: FOR THE HORDE!!!"
"Solugon: AND CHUCK NORRIS!!!"

Gives me an INSANE giggle every time I see that. Very Happy
KRONIC
na i dont like those sort of games man..they relly lame and make yuh dizzy rell fast!! Cool
lockwolf
MM0=Lame! You buy the game then pay to play it? Does that make any sense?
benwhite
I don't own or play it, so my only exposure is leroy. Still funny for me.

Chuck Norris jokes are funny in general, WoW or not. One of my personal favorites: Chuck Norris doesn't tea bag, he potato sacks.
elcyron
lockwolf wrote:
MM0=Lame! You buy the game then pay to play it? Does that make any sense?


you have a point there. maintaining the servers is quite expensive so a monthly fee is acceptable, but the price for the box is way to high.
it didn't stop me from buying though
benwhite
Then i guess the price wasn't too high Smile they'll always charge what people are willing to play.
Natrualkiller
Its worth to play blizz server first off you get the updates and they update it a lot there on 1.10 now second its legal lol third more people more choice im not sure if you can choose rp pvp pve rppvp on non blizzard servers but i think its worth paying the 12.99 a month or w.e it is again
elcyron
only downside is that blizzard doesn't realy care about their RP policy. for example names have to be fantasylike and not OOCrelated, also any talk about nonWOW stuff is forbidden in public channels. yet there ar a lot of names like n00bchecker, roflcopter, people chatting 'bout the football championship or hopping around naked in the cities rofling their *sses of.

ther's a lot of complaining going on, but blizz doesn't care. so a lot of serious roleplayers think about going to an illegal RPrealm
Summoner01
I have a wish Razz Can you send me name and url for good blizzlike World of warcraft server ? I was playing in many sh!t servers... I don't have a money for blizzard server, but if only you have a good server, send me !
JimJamDragoonr
Yeah I have both Guild Wars and World of Warcraft and I haven't decided which one I like better. WoW gives you a huge world just waiting to be explored while Guild Wars seems to hold your hand a bit more while you travel through. What I do like about GW more than WoW is the fact that it has an actual storyline. I was really lossed with WoW when I first got it and didn't even play for a month. After awhile though it becomes addicting and way to much fun to play.
DivineConclave
Since I was 'not so politely' asked to move our WoW topic to the 'original thread', which I assume is this, I will make it easy and link the thread here.

http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-46243.html

I guess... if anyone has any replies... umm... yeah.. reply here? heh
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Blackangel
Yes I'm a blizz fan. I just find their game having much more in-depth planning . I wa a Diablo II addicted Razz but WoW is an entire new Universe. There is an incredible number of details you discover each time you log in, MAny classes and also many differnet ways to play in each act. But what makes it more addicting is the way you interact with other people, the emotes, the mood the whole game has. You can easily get dragged into its virtual reality while ypou play. Yes the graphics are not as good as others, but the mood makes you forget graphic details.. Most addictive game i've ever played..
Saber
also as DivineConclave said, Im going to continue from the linked post.

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I have a rogue who I am trying to get the full defias set. I often get, "What you're wearing is better." Now here's my thing... on an RP server, it shouldn't be questioned. I know what I have already is better stat wise... but anyway... back to the topic... the defias set is going for upwards of 20 gold for the whole set (minus the chest piece of course) and that's not including the rapiers.


heh, well I guess thats understandable and I guess I might do that also If I played on a RP server, but I dont know what most of the armor looks like, as either Its been so long from when I played or just that I never got anyof it. Altho it is rather nice with the, um, what do they call it... the window where you can see what something else looks like on your character? Anyways, with a mod of itemsync I can 'play dressup' and then go hunting for those items, only to out level them by the time I find them or give up.

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That would be cool. But Man, that would suck too. Would have to be an improved summon talent or something that you could build up to negate that effect.

Yah it would suck, somewhat at least, and your right about having the skill level for having that not happen as much. But I still think that something like that would be needed otherwise it would be like the necro having two small fodder walls. And yah, that would give too much of an advantage I think. Hunters/warlocks with their pets can cause some damage but unless they are really being an issue you cna still go after the character. But if you have a few of them, you get stuned too often(mainly for casters) or you have to spend that extra time to kill them off first while the neco is just beating on you.

@Lyriqz
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Along with a new type of PVP battle.

What kind of pvp were you thinking of? I know blizzard is making world pvp areas, but thats going to be a while.

Also the cross server bg are going to change things... I hope that it would make the que time for getting in a lot shorter, due to there being a lot more people. But that also can be a bad thing.. depending on how the market is going on different servers(somewhat at least). On one server it might be very easy to get tweek items due to most people are level 60 allready, where in a newer server people wont have the option to get all the sets that they want. Anyone see my point in that?

-saber
DivineConclave
Saber wrote:
also as DivineConclave said, Im going to continue from the linked post.

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I have a rogue who I am trying to get the full defias set. I often get, "What you're wearing is better." Now here's my thing... on an RP server, it shouldn't be questioned. I know what I have already is better stat wise... but anyway... back to the topic... the defias set is going for upwards of 20 gold for the whole set (minus the chest piece of course) and that's not including the rapiers.


heh, well I guess thats understandable and I guess I might do that also If I played on a RP server, but I dont know what most of the armor looks like, as either Its been so long from when I played or just that I never got anyof it. Altho it is rather nice with the, um, what do they call it... the window where you can see what something else looks like on your character?



dressing room. Smile

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Anyways, with a mod of itemsync I can 'play dressup' and then go hunting for those items, only to out level them by the time I find them or give up.


Hmm... never tried that mod. NO! NOT ANOTHER MOD!! AAauuugggghhh...
I love my wardrobe mod. They stopped updating it, but it still works really well.

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That would be cool. But Man, that would suck too. Would have to be an improved summon talent or something that you could build up to negate that effect.

Yah it would suck, somewhat at least, and your right about having the skill level for having that not happen as much. But I still think that something like that would be needed otherwise it would be like the necro having two small fodder walls. And yah, that would give too much of an advantage I think. Hunters/warlocks with their pets can cause some damage but unless they are really being an issue you cna still go after the character. But if you have a few of them, you get stuned too often(mainly for casters) or you have to spend that extra time to kill them off first while the neco is just beating on you.


They'd have to consume a lot of mana to cast I think, also. I don't know how feasible it would really be. There would be a bunch of necros running around. Maybe necros should be alliance only to balance out the shaman overpowering. But that's moot since blizz is screwing that up anyway. heheh

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@Lyriqz
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Along with a new type of PVP battle.

What kind of pvp were you thinking of? I know blizzard is making world pvp areas, but thats going to be a while.


In PvP and RP/PvP servers, the world is a PvP area. But no one uses it except for gankers because of the crappy battlegrounds. I really wish they would have never developed the Battlegrounds. They seem to have seriously ruined the game on so many levels. It was when BGs came out that the game really started to nosedive.

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Also the cross server bg are going to change things... I hope that it would make the que time for getting in a lot shorter, due to there being a lot more people. But that also can be a bad thing.. depending on how the market is going on different servers(somewhat at least). On one server it might be very easy to get tweek items due to most people are level 60 allready, where in a newer server people wont have the option to get all the sets that they want. Anyone see my point in that?


Definitely. Been saying that since the idea came out. And to match up RP servers or Normal servers with PvP servers isn't exactly right either. But who knows? That may play out ok. But you're absolutely right about the twinking. Established servers will have the boon in the fight.
Not to mention the fact that the forums of each server are already being trolled beyond belief. Now they're being trolled by, not only their own members, but the members of other servers as well. I don't even bother going anymore because it's just children who couldn't get laid if they were linoleum trying to be witty but in actuality, being @$$es.
Saber
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Hmm... never tried that mod. NO! NOT ANOTHER MOD!! AAauuugggghhh...
I love my wardrobe mod. They stopped updating it, but it still works really well.


What all mods do you use? I only use a few:
-titan, so I have a better view of things
-itemsync, makes a list of items that you have seen in game, so you can look back at items
-bongos, allows me to change the size, opacity and where the hotkey bars are.
I think thats all I use,

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In PvP and RP/PvP servers, the world is a PvP area. But no one uses it except for gankers because of the crappy battlegrounds. I really wish they would have never developed the Battlegrounds. They seem to have seriously ruined the game on so many levels. It was when BGs came out that the game really started to nosedive.

Well what I ment is such as this, http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p12/outdoorpvp.xml
not just the pvp in contested areas.
DivineConclave
Saber wrote:
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Hmm... never tried that mod. NO! NOT ANOTHER MOD!! AAauuugggghhh...
I love my wardrobe mod. They stopped updating it, but it still works really well.


What all mods do you use? I only use a few:
-titan, so I have a better view of things
-itemsync, makes a list of items that you have seen in game, so you can look back at items
-bongos, allows me to change the size, opacity and where the hotkey bars are.
I think thats all I use,



Wardrobe
Lore
Various CT_ components
Guild Roster (which isn't working atm)
Guild Event Manager
Titan
Flighttracker
Bookworm

I think there are a couple others that I am forgetting. But of course, CT_MOD is about 20 mods in one. hehe..

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In PvP and RP/PvP servers, the world is a PvP area. But no one uses it except for gankers because of the crappy battlegrounds. I really wish they would have never developed the Battlegrounds. They seem to have seriously ruined the game on so many levels. It was when BGs came out that the game really started to nosedive.

Well what I ment is such as this, http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p12/outdoorpvp.xml
not just the pvp in contested areas.


*still grumbles*
More PvP stuff being added. Blizzard DOES realize that it isn't a PvP only game, right?
Saber
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Wardrobe
Lore
Various CT_ components
Guild Roster (which isn't working atm)
Guild Event Manager
Titan
Flighttracker
Bookworm

er... I only know what some ct stuff is, and what titan is, but I can guess at what the others do.
Most mods are far from usefull to me due to I dont play as much as I used to and I havent played with being in a guild that needs stuff like that in a long long time..
I used to be in a guild called SFC, its still around, but I havnt kept any contact with them. When I was in it, I really liked it beacuse we all 'knew' each other either personally or linked from someone we personaly knew.
But then school came along and handed me work to do.. and had to stop playing, droped from the guild and yah..

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More PvP stuff being added. Blizzard DOES realize that it isn't a PvP only game, right?

well... that may be found out by a coin toss..... blizzards coin... with heads on both sides..
Granted this isnt like the BG, more like contested area, but theres more point to it than just ganking anything that you see.

I do with that they would spend more time on the game play and patches, etc but as for the moment they seem to think that pvp is the way to go.
But also, I was thinking.. because they said that there will be things that will be open to those who dont get the expantion also, Im wondering if they will add more gameplay in then.

But untill then we just wait and hope that they dont get some crazy idea in mind and decide to revert all the players to level 1.... or something.

-saber
DivineConclave
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Bookworm

er... I only know what some ct stuff is, and what titan is, but I can guess at what the others do.
Most mods are far from usefull to me due to I dont play as much as I used to and I havent played with being in a guild that needs stuff like that in a long long time..


Yeah. Most of mine are RP mods...
oh yeah.. add FlagRSP to that list
...and being a GL, mods to help me with the guild.

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I used to be in a guild called SFC, its still around, but I havnt kept any contact with them. When I was in it, I really liked it beacuse we all 'knew' each other either personally or linked from someone we personaly knew.
But then school came along and handed me work to do.. and had to stop playing, droped from the guild and yah..


School and work. When will the madness end? They're taking away from our WoW time!

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More PvP stuff being added. Blizzard DOES realize that it isn't a PvP only game, right?

well... that may be found out by a coin toss..... blizzards coin... with heads on both sides..


hehe.. It's Blizzard. They're not going to toss one of their precious coins. They'd steal it from the players first and then say, "Oh. It's for a maintenance patch." -- "Oops. We broke something last patch. We need another coin to patch our patch."

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Granted this isnt like the BG, more like contested area, but theres more point to it than just ganking anything that you see.


It would be interesting to see if it helps a bit then. I am very skeptical though.

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I do with that they would spend more time on the game play and patches, etc but as for the moment they seem to think that pvp is the way to go.
But also, I was thinking.. because they said that there will be things that will be open to those who dont get the expantion also, Im wondering if they will add more gameplay in then.


They're adding a little more, but it's all ridiculously hard to acquire. I don't understand why they are focusing so much on PvP. Anyone can get PvP on ANY game... it isn't like they're doing something new and different there to keep the players. I know about 15 people who have left WoW in the past month because Blizzard is just going downhill and focusing way too much on PvP. They advertised the game as "A game for the casual gamer"... but it isn't... at all. There are other games out there (CoH, AC2, etc) that are better suited for the casual gamer. WoW is VERY play play play oriented. Nothing casual about having to keep your honor or having to grind the hell out of rep. I am not a casual gamer, but it's just an observation.

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But untill then we just wait and hope that they dont get some crazy idea in mind and decide to revert all the players to level 1.... or something.

-saber


I would like that, actually.
Hell.. I'd take that. Make us level 1, but let us keep our gear... something to sell to start off with. hehe... I wouldn't mind at all. But I know it would suck for everyone else. LOL
lunatic07
i dont realy like world of warcraft like dungeons and dragons and stuff thats kind of....gay like those kind of games are for like people who are never gonna have sex, i dont know why people get addicted to that game because it gets you problems with addiction and all you play is that game like go play some fps or something better then wow its actually real stuff not magic and all.
DivineConclave
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i dont realy like world of warcraft like dungeons and dragons and stuff thats kind of....gay like those kind of games are for like people who are never gonna have sex, i dont know why people get addicted to that game because it gets you problems with addiction and all you play is that game like go play some fps or something better then wow its actually real stuff not magic and all.


I don't really like morons who feel the need to enter other people's threads and flame them. Chances are they never like... have sex. I don't know why people get addicted to being jack@$$es.
Another thing I can't stand are people who don't know how to use punctuation. Your post holds no importance in this thread on the grounds that you are an obvious idiot.

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You're looking for 'than', not 'then'. When you finish middle school, you'll know this, I suppose.
Now stop flaming a legitimate thread.
Zpanzer
lunatic07 wrote:
i dont realy like world of warcraft like dungeons and dragons and stuff thats kind of....gay like those kind of games are for like people who are never gonna have sex, i dont know why people get addicted to that game because it gets you problems with addiction and all you play is that game like go play some fps or something better then wow its actually real stuff not magic and all.


Playing a game like World of Warcraft dosnt instantly equals that you are a 34 guy with full beard sitting down his mothers basement with 50 liter of cola and have 10 dirty magazines lying beside him, his skin is white like a linen and his stomach dont fit inside his slim-line t-shirt anymore.

I play this game and i play it much, but i never let it come before real life like homework from school, friends etc.
Girls might see me as a nerd, buts a life style ive choosen, and i enjoy no matter what people think about me or say.
Also, there is some kind of universal thing that all none gaming people think:
If you play a game, you are surely some dude that will take a pistol with 56 clips and run out and begin shooting heavily around you due to you have seen it in a game called GTA, nor playing medieval like games like the Warcraft genre, people think that you are going out and begins to chop people down with your heavy axe of eternal doom.
DivineConclave
Zpanzer wrote:
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i dont realy like world of warcraft like dungeons and dragons and stuff thats kind of....gay like those kind of games are for like people who are never gonna have sex, i dont know why people get addicted to that game because it gets you problems with addiction and all you play is that game like go play some fps or something better then wow its actually real stuff not magic and all.


nor playing medieval like games like the Warcraft genre, people think that you are going out and begins to chop people down with your heavy axe of eternal doom.


YOu have one of those too? Man, I was told it was a rare BoP.
KSheriff
I quit a while ago. It just took too much of my free time.
Very good game, but at 60 expect a whole different ball game.
Enjoyment of the game at 60 is pretty dependant on your guild and class, especially Horde side on most servers.

I sure others can elaborate, if need be. (Ex-Hunters and Rogues)
m_furquan36
Really worth the money Smile its like you always do something or the other cant get bored well eventually you do but you start another charcter Razz
DivineConclave
KSheriff wrote:
I quit a while ago. It just took too much of my free time.
Very good game, but at 60 expect a whole different ball game.
Enjoyment of the game at 60 is pretty dependant on your guild and class, especially Horde side on most servers.

I sure others can elaborate, if need be. (Ex-Hunters and Rogues)


Yeah it does take quite a bit of time. I dunno about the 60 thing though. I always seem to find something to do and our guild is small at the moment. (About 30 people). I might not have loads of "phat epix" or tons of gold, but I still enjoy playing.
sonic
I most say I do the same as you DivineConclave, i'm in a small guild and I dosn't have lots of good stuff and gold but still it is hell fun to play!
DivineConclave
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I most say I do the same as you DivineConclave, i'm in a small guild and I dosn't have lots of good stuff and gold but still it is hell fun to play!


Yeah. We had 100+ members, all healers, with a "subguild" which was our non-healer department. They held about 50+ members. We were about to start raiding when the typical drama occurred and the guild split up. Trying to reform it. It's fun either way. As long as your main focus isn't loot, the game is fun. When your focus becomes the loot, I notice that people get arrogant, rude, and selfish. The game is no longer fun at that point.
biffb
Been playing for almost two years now...it's like crack dipped in heroin with cocaine sprinkles Wink.
DivineConclave
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Been playing for almost two years now...it's like crack dipped in heroin with cocaine sprinkles Wink.


Mmmm... Donuts.

Yeah. Definitely World of Warcrack. I don't deny its addictive qualities. But any MMO is kinda like that. Well... there are some exceptions. EQ was an easy one to laugh at and walk away from. The designers are smart, that's for sure. heh
nam_siddharth
I am playing "World of Warcraft" for 3 months now. But I have never played on Blizzard. I have played on many private servers, and most of them were fun servers. Fun servers have very fast exp. rate and have maximum character lvl of 255. Currently I am playing on a Blizzlike server. I will start to play on Blizzard, when "The Burning Crusades" expansion arrive.
Saber
sorry for not posting again.. stupid work..

Anyways, I have to agree with you about how item based guilds are, at least in my mind, pointless. I have seen people banned from a guild because they didnt heal at that second.. It just ruins the game.

Speaking of the people that tend to be in those guilds...
http://www.twitchguru.com/2006/08/08/world_of_warcraft_players_addicted/
more than 40% of the people are addicted..
I think that this is one of the problems with it...

I Know wow is a great game... could be better and they keep on doing stupid things, but it wont keep me from playingit.
Now I dont play all the time, I have access to it I do sometimes sit around bored and know I could play wow, but I dont. I do have my moments like I mentioned before where I play for long times at odd hours, but I wouldnt call that having an addiction..

I wonder how long it will be before there are support groups for game addics widly known. Now to be fair wow is by far not the most addicting games out there... there only have been a few deaths with wow as the cause and some of those are most likely just trying to blame wow to get suit money.

But life happens, I have a note on my pc that says "Remember, you have a life, you need to eat, you need to live"

The reason why its there is more of a joke than anything(read the exile hand book(or one of the other myst games)) and it has something like that.

do you think your 'addicted' or not to WoW?
DivineConclave
Saber wrote:
sorry for not posting again.. stupid work..

Anyways, I have to agree with you about how item based guilds are, at least in my mind, pointless. I have seen people banned from a guild because they didnt heal at that second.. It just ruins the game.

Speaking of the people that tend to be in those guilds...
http://www.twitchguru.com/2006/08/08/world_of_warcraft_players_addicted/
more than 40% of the people are addicted..
I think that this is one of the problems with it...

I Know wow is a great game... could be better and they keep on doing stupid things, but it wont keep me from playingit.
Now I dont play all the time, I have access to it I do sometimes sit around bored and know I could play wow, but I dont. I do have my moments like I mentioned before where I play for long times at odd hours, but I wouldnt call that having an addiction..

I wonder how long it will be before there are support groups for game addics widly known. Now to be fair wow is by far not the most addicting games out there... there only have been a few deaths with wow as the cause and some of those are most likely just trying to blame wow to get suit money.

But life happens, I have a note on my pc that says "Remember, you have a life, you need to eat, you need to live"

The reason why its there is more of a joke than anything(read the exile hand book(or one of the other myst games)) and it has something like that.

do you think your 'addicted' or not to WoW?


I know I'm addicted. I admit it. And I do play a lot. However, it wouldn't be that big of a deal for me to quit if I had something else to do. I have been looking for a job for some time now, have resumés all over the world. I know that a lot of why I play so much is because I am home so much. BUt my addiction isn't with the game. It's with the people in the guild. We have become INCREDIBLE friends to the point where one of them found out I was an ordained priest and I will be holding her and her fiancé's (who also plays in the guild) wedding ceremony in real life. To me, that's what it's about... it isn't about the purpz, it isn't about the phat lewtz.
I am addicted to cigarettes, I am addicted to coffee, and I am addicted to WoW. Fortunately, my WoW addiction is easily remedied if I want to. But I don't want to right now. It eases my depression. Unfortunately, it is the cheapest addiction of all of them.
I saw that article you posted before. Here's my theory on experts... they're only experts on the things they want to complain about.
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understandable. If I wasnt here in this server room all day I know I would be at home playing WOW. But as it stands I dont feel like doing much when I get home.

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Haahah, thats awsome. Your right, the game is more about things like that, not the items.. even tho many people make it into that kind it game.

Iv found it harder to find people that are enjoyable to play with but all my friends keep on going on different servers. Thus making me have to pick and choose where to go and for how long. Then they take a break and then I start a new character on another server.. so that leaves me allmost allways below level 40 but meh, thats ok.

True the quests are really starting to get on my nerve... so I try to take turns for different races, and horde/alliance.(gives me a little bit different, but less so for the horde)


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Unfortunately, it is the cheapest addiction of all of them.

ahha.. that might be true, $15 a month adds up, but its a lot cheaper than a normal person will spend in a month on pointless stuff that wasnt needed. Such as getting vending food/drink when not really hungry, or um, spending money on something just because you have it.(cant think of anything.)

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I saw that article you posted before. Here's my theory on experts...
Iv also seen lots of articles about the same topic. But in truth, your right, they are only experts on things they want to bash.

and for those people that get to indepth into games.. the game didnt cause them to do that.. anything that the person would have done if the game wasnt there would be blamed for it. Its the people(sad to say) not the games..
bonestorm74
I just returned to this game after a year's break. After playing it for several months initially I was quite sick of it and vowed never to go back. However now I am playing with some friends again and really enjoying it. I will probably play for another month or so... the fact that there's no new games out there to entice me is a factor in me playing WoW, it just does everything so well.
DivineConclave
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I know that a lot of why I play so much is because I am home so much.

understandable. If I wasnt here in this server room all day I know I would be at home playing WOW. But as it stands I dont feel like doing much when I get home.


hehe... Well, I been playing a bit less the past couple days because I just got a design gig with a local theatre. I think this is a good thing. I have been putting so much time into the guild structure and all that, that I forgot I had other skills. LOL

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It's with the people in the guild. We have become INCREDIBLE friends to the point where one of them found out I was an ordained priest and I will be holding her and her fiancé's (who also plays in the guild) wedding ceremony in real life.


Haahah, thats awsome. Your right, the game is more about things like that, not the items.. even tho many people make it into that kind it game.

Iv found it harder to find people that are enjoyable to play with but all my friends keep on going on different servers. Thus making me have to pick and choose where to go and for how long. Then they take a break and then I start a new character on another server.. so that leaves me allmost allways below level 40 but meh, thats ok.


Yeah. When I started playing SWG, my friend got me into it. I said, "This isn't going to be like AC2 where you get me into it, I start playing and getting into it, and you leave, right? He said, "No. I think I am going to stick with this one." so I played for a couple weeks... and he left. Same with CoH. WoW, he actually stayed with for a while, but left after a few months. So I just went my own way with it. But hey... I'll be on Maelstrom for a while if you can deal with the griefers there. hehe Of course, i have characters on about 5 servers or so... but Faeroth is my main now and will be for some time.


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True the quests are really starting to get on my nerve... so I try to take turns for different races, and horde/alliance.(gives me a little bit different, but less so for the horde)


Yeah. same here. I have horde and alliance alike. Hordeside seems to be full of the more immature types on the Maelstrom server. You know... the ones who will kill you when you're 10+ levels lower than them and then /laugh like you actually had a chance in the first place? Or the ones that will enter your territory with 4 of their friends and jump between you and the corpse when you're trying to loot in an attempt to get you to auto-flag, and then /laugh if it happens as though you had a chance. It has gotten to the point where I just started reporting people who do that because I don't feel like dealing with it anymore. PvP is one thing. Griefing is another.

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Unfortunately, it is the cheapest addiction of all of them.

ahha.. that might be true, $15 a month adds up, but its a lot cheaper than a normal person will spend in a month on pointless stuff that wasnt needed. Such as getting vending food/drink when not really hungry, or um, spending money on something just because you have it.(cant think of anything.)


Or $100+ dollars a month on cigarettes? :-/. Of course I spend that anyway, in addition to the WoW... but that's not the point. hehe

But yeah. I used to seriously complain about the price of MMOs. They charge you $50 for the game and then $15 a month to play? WTF? Then I did some math. If you were to go to a video arcade and play a game there, you can't really play with other people and the average cost of the GOOD games out there is 75¢ to $1. Let's say you play just ONE game a day at the average game time of 10 minutes (in an arcade before you die and have to plug in more money). That's $22.50 to $30 a month for a miniscule amount of comparative time.

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I saw that article you posted before. Here's my theory on experts...
Iv also seen lots of articles about the same topic. But in truth, your right, they are only experts on things they want to bash.

and for those people that get to indepth into games.. the game didnt cause them to do that.. anything that the person would have done if the game wasnt there would be blamed for it. Its the people(sad to say) not the games..


True story. Hell... Heavy metal, techno, movies are all blamed for suicides and homocides. Actually... ya know what? THOSE PEOPLE ARE UNSTABLE! I can watch a movie, play a game, and listen to death metal. And... as far as I'm aware, I'm still alive and I haven't killed anyone.
DivineConclave
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I just returned to this game after a year's break. After playing it for several months initially I was quite sick of it and vowed never to go back. However now I am playing with some friends again and really enjoying it. I will probably play for another month or so... the fact that there's no new games out there to entice me is a factor in me playing WoW, it just does everything so well.


For the most part it does, I agree. I just wish they would learn how to balance better and how to listen to their player base. I think the game is great... the company is lacking.

But I bet you're playing a bit more laid back than you were too, right? I noticed that a lot of people who leave and come back, when they come back, they're more laid back about their playing and they enjoy it more.
Tubesock
All I can say is World of warcraft might be considered one of the best, and addicting games ever Razz If......... it wasn't for Blizzard's subpar customer service.
DivineConclave
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All I can say is World of warcraft might be considered one of the best, and addicting games ever Razz If......... it wasn't for Blizzard's subpar customer service.


A true statement. heh
fatepower
Yepp i play WOW but not so often cuz it's expensive.
Saber
Well Im sorry to see that this thread sorta died, but that happens,

Anyways, As we talked about before, about how pvp and such is going to change and what it will be like in the comming future, well they, blizzard, were kind enough to tell us.

Heres the audio http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/sounds-insider.html#chilton
or you can just read about it here, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/insider/09/interview.xml

Sigh.. something along the lines of "before the honor people just pvp for fun" YES thats right... sigh now its not as much fun,
also I hadnt really thought about this before... they just figured that pvp and raiding is the main place that they made for end content, so people that play the game way to much have something to do..and not just add more content.

.. the GB to keep people intertained? I seem to think that it caused boredom.
hmmm at least they know about the problems with them, such as tweaks, or at wsg where you sit and get nothing done in hours.

Sigh AV, I think that even if the teams were unbalanced, its more realistic, and I liked the idea of having it in the world, and not an instance.

hmmm arena, I might like that idea, better than the bootybay area arena,
People being able to battle normaly.. even ally vs ally.

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thats good to know that they know that its not all about the time spent,

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I: So the battlegrounds would actually be something where players could effect a change in the overall game?

TC: We've got some ideas on how we might do that, but those are ones that I'm not ready to talk about just yet.
Bah, they really need it to do something more than just gear. .

Well Post what you think, their ideas good? or you think they going down even more?

-saber
DivineConclave
Saber wrote:
Well Im sorry to see that this thread sorta died, but that happens,

Anyways, As we talked about before, about how pvp and such is going to change and what it will be like in the comming future, well they, blizzard, were kind enough to tell us.

Heres the audio http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/sounds-insider.html#chilton
or you can just read about it here, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/insider/09/interview.xml

Ill edit my post when I finish reading it, and add my comments.


Hmm.. listening to the interview.
Interesting. He pretty much admitted that the PvP system isn't very well balanced. Also, he mentions that they want to promote more PvE as well, requiring good gear to be gained from both, but he doesn't touch on the fact that the current honour system is the reason it's pretty much screwed at this point. What they need to do, to get people back into some of the PvE is tweak the honour system. I understand WHY they have it decay, but in doing so, the people who PvP never leave because they don't want to lose their rank. That's what they really need to work on to improve the PvP/PvE balance.
I do like the arena concept they're coming up with. That will help with PvP practice for same-faction training... plus, it will help with RP for "opposing guilds". Right now, the only arena is Gorubashi which pretty much means you get ganked if you try to go. Hopefully, they'll make the arenas in 'home territory' so people can 'train' from each other.
I like the team rating concept rather than individual (like the honour system). Individual honour when you're on a team is kinda unrelenting. That boils down to whoever has the better gear.
I'm still a little skeptical of the cross-server BG. But we'll have to see how that goes, I guess. If they do what he's talking about, looking at each team's gear before assigning a BG, that would be useful. I see a LOT of lag time on that though, with as laggy as their servers currently are.
I just can't believe that they have so many things to work on, and they're focusing on PvP... still. I would like to see some Guild upgrades (mail, house, in-game voting, raid tracker, etc). There are mods for these things, but it would be nice to have one local location in game to go to in order to do this. Not everyone downloads mods.

Is "incentivise" a word?

Would be good to see them give some incentive for world PvP. It would be better if they would give a DK or something similar to gankers.
*sigh* He's talking about encouraging spontaneous PvP. But we already have that... ganking. They're so encouraging more ganking with this resource node concept. I will most likely say "Screw Cenarion Hold Rep". I'll get to friendly for AQ and call it quits there. So much for running to Stratholme too. Time to get some warlocks for summoning.

It will be interesting to see how it turns out, but I really fear an increase in ganking with what he's talking about. The benefit is that you will have more of your own faction near by to defend... maybe. But with it as he's talking, it's going to be.. "LOOK! A RED! HE MUST HAVE A RESOURCE NODE! KILL HIM!" -coming from a 60 about a 40.

Skeptical, but curious. I'd like to see it work.
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thats good to know that they know that its not all about the time spent,


Yeah. That's one thing that's been bugging me is they keep talking about adding stuff for the more 'casual gamer' and then what they add ends up being more intense and more difficult than the previous. Take the 0.5 tier gear questline for instance. Hell.. it's easier to just get a regular raid group together for MC and get your tier2.

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Bah, they really need it to do something more than just gear. .


I agree completely. Again, too gear focused. Yes, gear is very nice... but it isn't the ALL of the game. They have so many opportunities to reflect on so many more aspects of the game, and they're missing them all.

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I think what they're proposing has potential, but I don't think it's really viable to the desired end result. They want to balance it, the first thing they need to do is get rid of the honour system as it is... turn it COMPLETELY team based or get rid of it. Also, they are asking for trouble with the world gankers. Does that mean that even on a Normal or RP/PvE server, these areas are going to flag PvP? That's not cool if it is. I think the idea they have has them on a line and it can sway either way. I would really like to see it work, but given their history, I am truly skeptical.
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Yah, its good to know they know some of the problems and they are going to fix it... sometime.. but your right, they would have to whipe the current system. The problem with that is that the people who are based in that set of armor/weapons would have to lose what they have.. causeing an uproar. SO if they find a way how to do that.. then its the first step to a better WOW.

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Thats one thing I liked what he said, that it would be changed to be aimed at the normaly gamer, not one of the crazy onese.

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I think they might allready have had this in mind a long time ago, for the home arenas. If you have a horde character theres an arena in ogramar that you cant go in, this might be a future home arena.

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heh, no kidding, it might take longer to get into bg, but with cross server bg it might not.
This would just make it a little bit more fair.

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I would like to see some Guild upgrades (mail, house, in-game voting, raid tracker, etc).

huh, I hadnt thought about that, buyt that really is a great Idea(mailbox). and maybe along with that a bank or something. I know in the one good guild I was in we ended up having the guuild leader make another account just for that reason, mail and bank. We split the cost for that account so it wasnt that extra cost just for him.

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*sigh* He's talking about encouraging spontaneous PvP. But we already have that... ganking.
haha... maybe he has fair spontaneous pvp.. not 4vs 1. But yah, the world pvp could just mean a Whole lot more gankiong but we can hope that they figure out a system to keep that from getting worse.

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Take the 0.5 tier gear questline for instance. Hell.. it's easier to just get a regular raid group together for MC and get your tier2.

heh for myself I havent had any special tier armor, I dont think Iv even gotten more than 2-4 blues on an account. But I guess thats because I dont play that often and I keep on having to switch accounts(Im an account leech)

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Yes, gear is very nice... but it isn't the ALL of the game.

So few people truly understand this, and another thing, have you runinto some one with the same gear and character setup?.. it happens all the time, Now if they added something that you could change what colors things where or something then it wouldnt look so bad, but that doesnt solve the problem of wow playing for the grear freaks.

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I think what they're proposing has potential,
True, but then the next question is how long and how many mistakes will it take to get there?

Another thing I really wish to see in wow is something like ff11(I think), where the players had some control of what happend, either by buying a shop, or being able to influeance the city in some way. I know that it would be really hard to make this and not be broken, but it would be fun, I think so at least.(there would have to be heavy limites and really well thought thru.)

-saber
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I just have to say that this game is sooooo addicting. I mean don't get me wrong, I love this game. It's so deep and there are so many things you can do, but I play it quite a lot.

I make sure it doesn't get in the way of my real life. That's the key. I'm debating on whether I should pay for my own account or not, because right now my friend is letting me play on his. =)

But either way its an awesome game, I must admit.
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I make sure it doesn't get in the way of my real life. That's the key. I'm debating on whether I should pay for my own account or not, because right now my friend is letting me play on his. =)


Hehe, Yah, I'v done my fair share of leaching, as thanks I buy them a game card or soemthing every now and then.

Altho sometimes I do wish I had my own account, so not having to wait to play or something of the like.
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Interesting. He pretty much admitted that the PvP system isn't very well balanced. Also, he mentions that they want to promote more PvE as well, requiring good gear to be gained from both, but he doesn't touch on the fact that the current honour system is the reason it's pretty much screwed at this point.

Yah, its good to know they know some of the problems and they are going to fix it... sometime.. but your right, they would have to whipe the current system. The problem with that is that the people who are based in that set of armor/weapons would have to lose what they have.. causeing an uproar. SO if they find a way how to do that.. then its the first step to a better WOW.


They could feasibly let the gear remain to those who have it, but wipe the system... but then there's still the issue of those who have saved up honor points and are nearing ready to make a purchase who will lose all those points. I am sure there would be some kind of conversion method for them, but they would be pissed, I'm sure, when they realize, "WHAT? You mean I actually have to play World of Warcraft and not just Unreal Tournament medieval style?!" That's really all the BGs are. They are a rip-off of UT.

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the people who PvP never leave because they don't want to lose their rank. That's what they really need to work on to improve the PvP/PvE balance.
Thats one thing I liked what he said, that it would be changed to be aimed at the normaly gamer, not one of the crazy onese.

Yeah... but they're still going to maintain the honor maintenance bit where you have to maintain that honor.

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do like the arena concept they're coming up with. That will help with PvP practice for same-faction training... plus, it will help with RP for "opposing guilds". Right now, the only arena is Gorubashi which pretty much means you get ganked if you try to go. Hopefully, they'll make the arenas in 'home territory' so people can 'train' from each other.


I think they might allready have had this in mind a long time ago, for the home arenas. If you have a horde character theres an arena in ogramar that you cant go in, this might be a future home arena.


Where's that Orgimaar arena at? I don't remember seeing it.

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looking at each team's gear before assigning a BG, that would be useful.

heh, no kidding, it might take longer to get into bg, but with cross server bg it might not.
This would just make it a little bit more fair.


I don't think it can take much longer than the current wait times. You know that I sat in BG qeue for 10½ hours one day? I logged on and decided I was going to spen the whole day gaming. First thing I did was enter BG qeue. I logged off 10½ hours later... without BG.

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I would like to see some Guild upgrades (mail, house, in-game voting, raid tracker, etc).

huh, I hadnt thought about that, buyt that really is a great Idea(mailbox). and maybe along with that a bank or something. I know in the one good guild I was in we ended up having the guuild leader make another account just for that reason, mail and bank. We split the cost for that account so it wasnt that extra cost just for him.


Yeah. I had to create a second character for the bank. You don't have to create another accout... just another character. But it's still a pain. They definitely need a guild bank. That's one thing I really miss about SWG... their guild set up was really well done. They need to implement a guild bank in WoW where the GL can set the access ranks and all that.

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