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The Media: Pro-America or Pro-Terrorists?





S3nd K3ys
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by Lee Ellis
Dec 20, 2005


The New York Times keeps printing "news" that aids and abets those who hate the USA. The most recent example of this is the recent propaganda using a misleading story written by James Risen and Eric Lichtblau which reads in part, "Months after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying."

This has proven to be wrong, and is taken from a book to be released next week by a Viacom publisher. Viacom also owns CBS so one might well suspect that this will also be promoted on "60 Minutes." President Bush has explained his war-time powers, had alerted intelligence committee members of Congress and had also followed up with F.I.S.A. court warrants. These phone calls were NOT domestic, but rather were calls from the Middle East to America. It was revealed by NewsMax that Pelosi and Reid finally confessed that they had been informed by President Bush about these NSA wiretaps and had said nothing back then. Also revealed is that President Clinton had done many similar taps via a program called Echelon. Where were the leaks then to the leftist press?

This NYT "news" was the talk of Congress as the members discussed the renewal of the Patriot Act. Thus a filibuster against the Act renewal was started in Congress by Democrats and a few centrist Republicans.


In full
Post-Chronicle

Seems every time they get their asses handed to them for lying, they come right back and lie some more. All in the name of the Bushhaters who will do ANYTHING to make him look bad.
S3nd K3ys
The US establishment media (the usual suspects: the big 4 news broadcasters--TV and radio--and PBS, and of course most news papers) have long been left-biased and left-leaing in their news reporting. Anyone who denies this with a straight face is not to be considered as a serious thinker on the subject.

What the media have become in recent years is left-ADVOCACY. No longer content with simply spinning the news to the left after the humiliating defeat of a man they supported for president in 2000, Al Gore, following on the heels of a humiliating 8 years of the Clinton presidency, they have had to, both for reasons of toeing the liberal line for their liberal masters AND to preserve their own egos (Bush was a mistake, a fluke! The Clinton years were really not bad...it was all about sex! The economy was great under Clinton BECAUSE of Clinton, etc.). So, in this self-protective way, and in order to advance the leftist cause, and in view of the American electorate's REPEATED rejection of leftism (Gore, Kerry)they are willing to go to just about anything to make it seem as if Bush is stupid, but also a criminal mastermind; dumb as a sack of hammers, but also master of a Star Chamber where pacts are made with evil corporate heads and fascist foreign leaders.

In short, they have become caricatures of themselves. They will breathlessly report any lie, no matter how outlandish and silly on its face, and no matter that they KNOW it is inaccurate or an outright lie (the NSA nonsense) in order to further their cause, in order to ADVOCATE for the left.
lib
S3nd K3ys wrote:
outright lie (the NSA nonsense)

Then why is it that Bush acknowledged the fact that he's supported this eavesdropping excercise more than 30 times, and will continue to do so?

Or wait... I see what's coming... Katrina threads. Users repeated post quotes on Bush taking responsibility for the feds' failure to act on time, and other members repeatedly post about how it's not his fault nor their responsibility.

Rolling EyesRolling EyesRolling Eyes:

See my other post, in the other thread you started.

That one probably seems a bit like a rant, but seriously, your obsessive defending of Bush ceases to be amusing... it's now getting frustratingly annoying.
LumberJack
Neither. Just really bad.
chico-lama
I think the post subject disturbing. Both pro-america and pro-terrorist is wrong. The media should be obective in their reports (I know this is impossible, but I have great hopes..)

Second of all: Does the media do it wrong when it's discussing whats really going on in it's own country?
igor123d
I believe the unwarrented wiretaps issue has been proven to be true. This is not coming from the radical left, the President himself acknowledged doing so albeit he explained that it is in the interest of public security.
S3nd K3ys
igor123d wrote:
I President himself acknowledged doing so albeit he explained that it is in the interest of public security.


...as well as that it was legal.
horseatingweeds
Are they ADVOCATING for the left or are they just trying to get the most ratings by juicing the juiciest apple?
zebrabongo
I think your first problem is the topic of this thread.

The counterpoint to Pro-American is not Pro-Terrorist.
The whole “if you’re not with us, then you’re against us” mentality is crap and has been used throughout history as a means to leverage power.

I don’t know what is worst, politicians and media that use it knowing fully well that it’s bogus or the people that actually buy into it.

Stop lending credence to it and start questioning the actions of the people in charge.
Superfan
horseatingweeds wrote:
Are they ADVOCATING for the left or are they just trying to get the most ratings by juicing the juiciest apple?

If that were the case, then why haven't more tried to capitalize on the success of Fox News, talk radio, and other alternative media?

The fact that network news has been in a ratings decline for years, yet they refuse to make changes that have been proven to work, speaks volumes...
horseatingweeds
Superfan wrote:
horseatingweeds wrote:
Are they ADVOCATING for the left or are they just trying to get the most ratings by juicing the juiciest apple?

If that were the case, then why haven't more tried to capitalize on the success of Fox News, talk radio, and other alternative media?

The fact that network news has been in a ratings decline for years, yet they refuse to make changes that have been proven to work, speaks volumes...


So what your saying is that the new media, as an organization in the US, is a check and or balance to other groups, such as home land security and the FBI. Keeping things fair for the terrorist and other enemies of the US…… Laughing
gonzo
Americans believe in absolute truth. Most media outlets are staffed by people would would happily renounce citizenships if it weren't for all the socialist perks their minions have installed.

Naturally anyone who doesn't hold relativism up as the holy grail must be evil. And so the hurrahs for terrorists.

bastards
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