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Bikerman goes girlie





Bikerman
I needed a car to supplement my bike - sometimes you just HAVE to arrive dry, suited and booted - and I've long fancied treating myself to a cheap 2-seater sports car.

Yesterday I went and bought myself a Mazda MX5.

Now I am well aware than many people see this as a girlie car but, being someone pretty secure in their masculinity, that has never bothered me.
The car is old - yr 2000 with 100,000 miles on the clock - and it has the usual complement of scratches and general wear and tear. I have to say, though, that, after driving it for a couple of days, she (the car went from 'it' to 'she' almost immediately) is a little sweetie. For a small amount of money (£1400) I've bought myself a lovely little rag-top that has already wormed its way into my affections Smile
Ankhanu
Yeah, those are nice little cars. You got a pretty solid price on it too. 100k for a 2000 model is really quite good.

I've never really understood the mysogyny surrounding car culture. The biases people develop and maintain are quite arbitrary and ridiculous... and very apparent to any outsider looking in.
Bikerman
Yes it's odd how these stereotypes arise. The Toyota MR2 was always seen as the man car and the MX5 as the woman's car. It might have something to do with the MR2 being more 'angular' and a bit more 'in your face'. When you look at the MX5, however, it's pretty much an archetypal 2-seater which used to be build only in the UK and in Italy. It's an example of what a British 2-seater should have been if we built them properly Smile
Ankhanu
Yeah, it's quite similar to an MG, which are quite popular over here with men. People are funny Wink
standready
Congratulations Bikerman. That is a sweet ride for a good price.
LxGoodies
I'm not a car owner, I know nothing of cars. When I google Mazda MX 5 and look at the images I see something like a small and lean sports car, sometimes cabrio.

It must be some irrational step in the male mind,

bikerman wrote:
she (the car went from 'it' to 'she' almost immediately) is a little sweetie
standready wrote:
sweet ride

Haha in fact, gentlemen these remarks illustrate it perfectly ! Maybe for an explanation.. how fast is she ? if she is only looking fast but not really fast, male drivers might regard it as "looks only" and - as a consequence - "female" ? Razz
Bikerman
Standready wrote:
Congratulations Bikerman. That is a sweet ride for a good price.

Well, I've had a few days to drive it now and find the bugs. I have to say, I still think she is a sweetie.

The paintwork has a few scratches and a couple of dings, but I reckon a couple of hours with some T-Cut, a bit of filler and a black aerosol will have it looking lovely.

The engine is as sweet as you like, right through the rev range. The gearbox is lovely - very positive.

There is very little in the way of luxury so very little to go wrong (manual windows, manual mirrors, manual seats etc etc).

The only thing that doesn't work is the electric aerial, and the CD/Radio is very dated and naff - so I've booked it in with my local car audio specialist to have a new sound system put in next week.

I must say, for £1400 quid (with 12 months tax and MOT) it feels like an absolute bargain and I couldn't be happier.

This is what she looks like (this is a similar model in similar condition).


LxGoodies wrote:
Haha in fact, gentlemen these remarks illustrate it perfectly ! Maybe for an explanation.. how fast is she ? if she is only looking fast but not really fast, male drivers might regard it as "looks only" and - as a consequence - "female"


Nonono....there is a long and honourable tradition of assigning gender to machines.
(In fact English is a little unusual in that it doesn't have an automatic gender for most nouns - French and Spanish certainly do.)

Most of the mechanically inclined people I know tend to assign a gender to their much-loved machines - be they cars, bikes, lawnmowers, boats or whatever. The gender is probably more often feminine but not always. My FJ1200 motorbike, for example, was, to me a definite Fred, whereas my FJR1300 was definitely Francesca (Franny).

This is different - we are talking about assigning/assuming gender automatically for the OWNER of the machine.

The speed point doesn't really work. Consider that most classic cars are pretty slow. I have no doubt the cars themselves are probably mostly regarded as feminine by their owners, but you wouldn't assume that the owners were also feminine, would you?
deanhills
Guess my observation is completely subjective.

I'd gauge it by the shape of the car - nicely rounded bottom, it's definitely a "she",



whereas this one to me with sharper angle bottom curves looks like a "he". Razz

LxGoodies
That orange car looks like frog Dean..
deanhills
LxGoodies wrote:
That orange car looks like frog Dean..
Laughing It does rather. Maybe it's more of an "it" then.

Maybe this is a better example of a "he" car - Ford Mustang 2000 - deep roar from those exhausts as well. Wink

Blaster
A "he" car to me isn't a car at all but rather a truck.

Congrats on the new car and best of luck with it!!!
william
deanhills wrote:
LxGoodies wrote:
That orange car looks like frog Dean..
Laughing It does rather. Maybe it's more of an "it" then.

Maybe this is a better example of a "he" car - Ford Mustang 2000 - deep roar from those exhausts as well. Wink



What's funny about that generation of the Mustang is that the V6 convertible with an automatic transmission is considered a very feminine car. Laughing Not sure why, but it was hugely popular with women (I guess maybe because they liked the styling and open top driving experience but didn't care for the the V8 rumble). Of course, the drivers don't necessarily have a bearing on the "gender" of the car itself, but it's interesting to note. Razz
spinout
In sweden many use the "he" instad of "she" for vehicles, I don't know why. Perhaps it is the girlie status that you want to evade.
tidruG
I bought my first car 3 years back (Feb 2012). I bought it fresh from the showroom, with plastic cover on the seats and that new car smell. In hindsight, I'm likely to never buy a brand new car ever again, but that's a different thought Smile

Anyway, the reason I'm commenting is that I love my car. It's my ticket to be able to go anywhere on my terms. It's got a nice little engine, and it's super comfortable and smooth for intra-city high traffic driving. But I've never assigned a gender to it, nor given it a name. I'm not sure why.

I think it's a little weird. If I'd assigned a name to it and thought of it as something with a gender, that personification would probably have made me be a lot more careful and diligent with my maintenance of it, I think.
deanhills
Just when I thought we'll never here from tidruG again ..... Guess there's hope hearing from Bondings one day. Razz

Forgot to wish Chris congratulations with his new car.
tidruG
deanhills wrote:
Just when I thought we'll never here from tidruG again ..... Guess there's hope hearing from Bondings one day. Razz

Forgot to wish Chris congratulations with his new car.

I came back for my annual pilgrimage! Razz

No, seriously, I came back only temporarily to get something done. There ought to be an announcement soon.
BigGeek
I really don't think there is anything Girlie about the MX-5 I personally think they are very sporty looking and fun to drive - I have a few friends that are into boosting to the engine output with performance modifications - with a few bolt on items that little car can be turned into a rocket ship - they can be quite fast!!!



Now on the gender side - Cars are always female and referred to as "she" I even refer to my truck as a "she" - I had an old guy tell one time that anything mechanical is referred to as a "she" because they are all problematic, temperamental, and will mess with your head when things go wrong - just like a woman .... I know that was a little sexist - but it was damn funny when he said it Very Happy Smile Cool
deanhills
tidruG wrote:
deanhills wrote:
Just when I thought we'll never here from tidruG again ..... Guess there's hope hearing from Bondings one day. Razz

Forgot to wish Chris congratulations with his new car.

I came back for my annual pilgrimage! Razz

No, seriously, I came back only temporarily to get something done. There ought to be an announcement soon.
Great news about Bikerman's appointment indeed. We're dying to hear from/about Bondings though. Any news about what he is doing, will we ever hear from him again? Will he still be looking after the Servers?
rx9876
I recalled all the American English movies and dramas I watched.
People talks about machines( without personality ones), organization, countries will refer them as "she".
I used to think all people talk just like that.

For example,
Tony named his AI as Jarvis, which has personality and apparently named after a real person.
The agents of SHIELD refers SHIELD as she.

Is there any examples what people refer something nonorganism without personality as "he",
in the media, like novels, dramas, or movies?
Marcuzzo
deanhills wrote:

whereas this one to me with sharper angle bottom curves looks like a "he". Razz



Dean what are you talking about, the car may be a 'he'-type car, but the car is definitely a she, just look at that sexy rear end, and don't let Ferruccio ever hear you say those words Razz
deanhills
Marcuzzo wrote:
Dean what are you talking about, the car may be a 'he'-type car, but the car is definitely a she, just look at that sexy rear end, and don't let Ferruccio ever hear you say those words Razz
Great to see you posting buddy. Been lonely in here for a while. Dancing

You're right. I'd be dead meat if Ferruccio heard me talking like that. I'm dead certain all Italian cars have to be female or they'll set the Mafia on you. Cool

Found this interesting survey by Shell:
Quote:
So, is your vehicle male or female? Or, do you think it has a personality?

The Shell “Autotude” survey reports:

Two in three American drivers believe their cars have a personality and most respondents agreed that they had a “strong emotional bond” with their vehicles (56 percent). Additionally, more women (66 percent) than men (56 percent) feel their personality is similar to their vehicles’. And 21 percent even admitted to patting their dashboards like a pet.

Don’t feel obligated to tell me that you pat your dashboard.

Source: http://blog.chron.com/carsandtrucks/2008/04/is-your-vehicle-a-he-or-she/
handfleisch
Yes! When I moved back to the US I had to buy a car. I got a 1997 Ford Escort with 110,000 miles, manual transmission, for only $2200. It runs like a sewing machine and has been great. I really don't understand people who break the bank or put up with $$$ in monthly payments for new cars.

Bikerman wrote:
I needed a car to supplement my bike - sometimes you just HAVE to arrive dry, suited and booted - and I've long fancied treating myself to a cheap 2-seater sports car.

Yesterday I went and bought myself a Mazda MX5.

Now I am well aware than many people see this as a girlie car but, being someone pretty secure in their masculinity, that has never bothered me.
The car is old - yr 2000 with 100,000 miles on the clock - and it has the usual complement of scratches and general wear and tear. I have to say, though, that, after driving it for a couple of days, she (the car went from 'it' to 'she' almost immediately) is a little sweetie. For a small amount of money (£1400) I've bought myself a lovely little rag-top that has already wormed its way into my affections :-)
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