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nam_siddharth
Are you guys are excited about windows 10. I am very excited about it and eagerly waiting for its official release.
johans
whats new with windows 10? Is there beta released already? i never heard it before.
nam_siddharth
Yes, Beta is out. Start menu is back.
playfungames
Yes, I am excited about Windows 10. I got a touch screen computer for Windows 8.1 and it works well. I used the touch screen features in that startup screen for a solid 2 weeks. Then I reverted back to placing a start menu and using windows the normal way.

I'm excited to see what this new version will have in store for the touch screen laptop users. I hope the new version will keep me using the touch screen features and make everything just as convenient to use from the touch screen. Also, I heard that the new Windows 10 will be free for everyone for upgrading for a year. Even if you have like a pirated version of previous Windows, you can upgrade to 10 for free. Not saying that I have a pirated version, but people with such Windows OS now have the option to go legit for free.
nam_siddharth
Quote:
Even if you have like a pirated version of previous Windows, you can upgrade to 10 for free. Not saying that I have a pirated version, but people with such Windows OS now have the option to go legit for free.


I don't think so. Update to Windows 10 will be free, but only for legit Windows 7/8/8.1 users.
cybersa
nam_siddharth wrote:
Quote:
Even if you have like a pirated version of previous Windows, you can upgrade to 10 for free. Not saying that I have a pirated version, but people with such Windows OS now have the option to go legit for free.


I don't think so. Update to Windows 10 will be free, but only for legit Windows 7/8/8.1 users.

I read some article,Microsoft is going to give Windows 10 upgrade even for pirated version.
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/03/20/you-can-upgrade-to-windows-10-from-pirated-older-versions-for-free-but-microsoft-wont-support-your-system/
alvarorojas4
Actually, I Am.
That new features seems fantastic!
Cortana, The apps in a windows and not full screen, workspaces (Finally!).
I'm looking forward to it! Can't wait for the release
Blummer
I really like the features. Haven't seen them in action, but read the descriptions. Based on the recent feedbacks, the system is a big step forward and hopefully, more stable than the standard Windows 8 (not to mention 8.1).
deanhills
I always wait a longish while to see how other people are responding first. As well as at least one further windows 10 version in which they've sorted out everything that had gone wrong. I'm never good at being Microsoft's guinea pig. Razz
playfungames
cybersa wrote:
nam_siddharth wrote:
Quote:
Even if you have like a pirated version of previous Windows, you can upgrade to 10 for free. Not saying that I have a pirated version, but people with such Windows OS now have the option to go legit for free.


I don't think so. Update to Windows 10 will be free, but only for legit Windows 7/8/8.1 users.

I read some article,Microsoft is going to give Windows 10 upgrade even for pirated version.
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/03/20/you-can-upgrade-to-windows-10-from-pirated-older-versions-for-free-but-microsoft-wont-support-your-system/


Yes indeed that is happening. I think they are trying to promote their app store or microsoft store. The update will be free for 1 year and even the OS will be free to download for a year, right?
Blummer
I've seen W10 in action. What I didn't enjoy (at least in this test version) was a startup time, while W8 or W8.1 took much shorter to load. What I like are these updates apps, with windowed mode.
standready
I pre-registered for the up? grade but will have my system image ready to go back to 7
jajarvin
standready wrote:
I pre-registered for the up? grade but will have my system image ready to go back to 7

I have this same problem.
So my question is:
If I upgrade my Win7 to Win10 do I have the option to go back to use my Win7?
Insanity
I just upgraded, and it was pretty painless. Once you computer has finished downloading and installing the update, it'll take like 20 minutes to get everything finalized, but after that, it's all pretty simple. There's no huge differences that I can see other than the start menu and some small UI changes. But it's nice that they redesigned the start menu, now it looks better than having your whole screen change.
amagard
Still waiting for my PC at home to upgrade.
So far I have been reading a lot about Windows 10. Here is my list of interesting bookmarks:

Everything You Can Ask Cortana to Do...
Record Videos of Apps in Windows 10 with...
Windows 10 Uses Your Bandwidth to Distribute...
The Best Windows 10 Features You Probably...
How to Tweak Windows 10 and Fix Its Minor...
Reclaim Disk Space After the Windows...
Start10 Brings a Customizable, Classic...
Windows 10: The Gizmodo Review
PSA: Start Menu Replacement Apps Still...
How to Skip the Line and Upgrade to Windows...
Should I Upgrade to Windows 10?
How to Do a Clean Install of Windows 10
How to Disable Bing Search in Windows...
The Best New Features of Windows 10
Windows 10's Automatic Updates For NVidia...
Windows 10 Will Have Screen Recording...
Windows 10 Home Updates Will be Automatic...
Windows 10 vs Windows 7: Should you upgrade?
Can I Download Windows 10 for Free
Here Are The Features Microsoft Is Cutting...
amagard
OK, did the upgrade to Windows 10 today.
Took roughly two hours to download and install.
First experience was terrible: start menu not opening, task manager not responding.
I tried this solution for the first problem without success.
Thru my Rainmeter process monitor I noticed that MsMpEng.exe kicked in quiet often with high CPU usage. This opened my eyes that apparently Microsoft Security Essentials is part of Windows 10 !? Since I had Avast Antivirus installed on my system this was a good cause for trouble; two virus scanner competing with each other for disk resources, a great way to slow down the system to almost a halt.
The turnaround then was to de-install Avast Antivirus. After another reboot I finally was able to open the Start menu and use task manager and overall system behaves much smoother now.

The Windows 10 installer should consider this and ensure not two virus scanner will be running in parallel. It should either prompt with information that Microsoft Security Essentials will be available with Windows 10 and offer to de-install any other installed virus scanner, or offer to disable Microsoft Security Essentials if user prefers to stay with his current virus scanner.
deanhills
amagard wrote:
The Windows 10 installer should consider this and ensure not two virus scanner will be running in parallel. It should either prompt with information that Microsoft Security Essentials will be available with Windows 10 and offer to de-install any other installed virus scanner, or offer to disable Microsoft Security Essentials if user prefers to stay with his current virus scanner.
I've heard of someone else with the exact same issue - he is using Avast. What a nice way of Microsoft to try and get rid of its anti-virus opposition! Razz
cybersa
I installed windows 10 on my laptop.

My Review after few days of usage.
Pros:
*Looks simple and flat.
*Start menu with lot of new features.
*Cortana.

Cons:
You can not turn off the Automatic update.(Really its sucks lot of my bandwidth.)
Not a major change from Windows 8.1
truespeed
Jumping from windows 7 to windows 10 is a bit of a culture shock,but I am getting used to it. Installation went perfectly with no problems.



I haven't used edge browser yet,I assume it's just as bad as its predecessor. Wink
DavidGalicia
I have the windows 8 Pro, but I do not know whether the update to Windows 10, because I don't know as it will be, they say it is better than 8, but that I do not know - someone has installed 10 Windows?


A greeting! Smile
albertkleiner
A few reasons I am not eager to use Windows 10:

1. It spies on you regardless of settings:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/13/windows-10-sends-identifiable-data-microsoft-despite-privacy-settings

2. Forced updates which can cause problems like here:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/11/windows-10-broken-update-endless-reboot-loop

Users are stripped off their rights to control how they want their software to behave: changing privacy settings doesn't do a thing, can't stop updates...
Benefits don't overweight troubles for me.
Windows 8 is as far as I am willing to go.
---
DavidGalicia wrote:
I have the windows 8 Pro, but I do not know whether the update to Windows 10, because I don't know as it will be, they say it is better than 8, but that I do not know - someone has installed 10 Windows?


A greeting! Smile


Look at review videos online, read some news about issues people are having with W10 and decide for yourself.
Cheers.
Marcuzzo
I've been running windows 10 technical preview since it was first released in a Hyper-V VM and as soon as it was officially released I downloaded it from MSDN and installed it on my personal laptop and didn't have any problems.

regarding data being sent of to its servers... you are delusional if you think that your data is safe nowadays.

even if you have a system that doesn't spy on you the websites you visit will.

Google spies on you via tracking cookies ( almost every site is using google analytics ), if you're running an android phone... you can bet your a** that a lot of personal information is sent to several companies ( Google, manufacturer, app developer ),
smart tv's are doing this too.

and oddly you are running windows 8, which according to most people, was even worse then vista. I'd say upgrade at least to 8.1
and eventually you will buy a new laptop one day anpd guess what you will be running...thats right, an OEM version of windows that is packed with a sh*tload of preinstalled crapware
standready
I upgraded my laptop to 10 from 7 and see little difference. However my desktop is another story. It has 7 home premium that includes Media Center. I use the desktop as my DVR. 10 does not have Media Center!!! So trying other software on my laptop to find a good MC replacement.
Also to note: 7's Media Center is changing TV guides and is still not working.
cybersa
After a few week of usage,i planned to move back to windows 7.
Because of following problems:
1.Some software are not working properly with windows 10.
2.Can't able to disable Windows 10 update.
3.Drivers are not supporting completely for my laptop.
Blummer
cybersa wrote:

Can't able to disable Windows 10 update.


I remember I've found the way to disable it, but I can't remember how. Been back to 8.1 for weeks now.

I also hate the new Windows because of the startup time - I thought it was just due to the beta versions, but the final version behaves similarly - it takes quite a long time for the logon screen (with your name) to disappear and speed is my priority. My 8.1 only takes max. 7-10 seconds (from clicking the Power button) to load.
playfungames
truespeed wrote:
Jumping from windows 7 to windows 10 is a bit of a culture shock,but I am getting used to it. Installation went perfectly with no problems.

I haven't used edge browser yet,I assume it's just as bad as its predecessor. Wink


Well, you're lucky you didn't have to face the horrible start screen of Windows 8, 8.1. When I bought a new laptop it came with windows 8. The start screen just lost me. I was stuck around it for some time. Windows 8.1 was the same with the start screen. But at least I found an application called Classic Shell to bring back my start menu. It wasn't that fast to bring up the start menu for the first time, but it worked great.

Now, upgrading to Windows 10 is like awesome. The best thing that I have is a start menu from where I can go to so many places. And then there are user interface changes which is always welcomed because I easily get bored of the same icons and graphics.

The edge browser is ok. It scrolls smooth but I changed back my default browser to Google Chrome. I'm just too used to using Chrome.

And the rest of the changes, I don't care because I don't use them. Computers are mostly for browsing the internet for me. So all I need is a good internet browser. I only use a few desktop apps.
cybersa
Good to have start menu back.
But still it has Modern app(Universal app) on the side of the start menu.
I did not use at all and it will take some memory.

Is there any way to disable it completely?
loveandormoney
nam_siddharth wrote:
Are you guys are excited about windows 10. I am very excited about it and eagerly waiting for its official release.


Did You collect good results?
Marcuzzo
IMO, the windows start screen is not that bad.

I used to love the XP menu, where the menu didn't 'toggle' the folders but actually expanded.
the new menu style was introduced with Vista and also used in 7, this menu I did not like at all.
instead I started using the search functionality to get the stuff I needed.

after a while I got 8.1 on my work laptop and I actually loved it ( still do ). I personalized my start screen ( never used the apps screen ) in a way that I have the apps that I regularly use on the start screen and the apps that I use on a daily basis in my taskbar, also note that I'm booting directly in the desktop and not the startscreen.

enter Windows 10, first thing I did was replace the horrible start menu, which basically is the start screen but then compacted to a menu-ish tool to satisfy the people that were crying over their beloved start menu, with the start screen I used to love in 8.1
Gehr
I'm keen on the privacy issues that come bundled with Windows 10, and frankly, I've disabled them.

Cortana? A nice feature if it didn't include a ton of spyware like extensions that phone home directly to M$.

I've seen a few progs that have the capability to disable them entirely through a group policy (typical for a commercial environment), my recommendation DoNotSpy10
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/05/donotspy10-configure-windows-10-privacy-settings/

With this, you can disable (by selecting which options you wish to opt-out of) entirely.


I'd be happy to field any questions relating to this software.

Note: Please watch the install of this program, as it prompts to do nonsense things like change your homepage and/or add toolbars to your favorite Internet Browsers[/img]
deanhills
Gehr wrote:

Note: Please watch the install of this program, as it prompts to do nonsense things like change your homepage and/or add toolbars to your favorite Internet Browsers[/img]
OK, I was just getting interested until I noticed this warning.

I hate any software that prompts nonsense - Adobe Flash Player is a good example, like having options ticked by default.

An now I've really lost interest in Windows 10 as well. I don't see the reason in having it when Windows 7 is still working OK.

But maybe you have a list of reasons why Windows 10 would be good to have over Windows 7 or 8.1?
Gehr
Since I'm a nonconventional fanboy of ALL OS'es, and I've taking a serious shining to OSX's 10.10+ "Spaces" type virtual desktops. I'd say the best feature that I've been enjoying is Windows 10's implementation. (Which has been in Linux for over a decade).

Anyways, if you want to know exactly what I'm talking about, checkout this vidy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVOyK5CCAD4
deanhills
Thanks for the link to the show. However, I'm sure I've got that feature too in Windows 7. All I need to do is hover my mouse over the browser icon in the taskbar and it comes up with all of the desktop windows.

While I was watching your recommended show, it was followed by these five reasons not to upgrade to Windows 10. I thought they were pretty good ones. Razz

chiragjn
Honestly, after updating to Windows 10
I feel it is shit

My arguments:

0.Still uses svchost system which uses a lot of RAM ! Goddamn it Windows Kernel when would you change!
1.Half Baked Modern Apps
2.Half of the settings have been moved from Control Panel to Settings App making them ridiculously hard to find.
3.Search crashes a lot of times
4. The whole OS is redesigned to make it respond as it should on touch devices, but not everyone is using touch?
Da Rossa
I'm enjoying Windows 10, and, since it's usable, then I'd rather stick with it than rolling back to 7.
Having settings both in the control panel and the settings app is really nonsensical. Maybe Microsoft is doing a "smooth transition".
lightwate
After updating to windows 10 from windows 8, I was immediately frustrated.

1. Windows update is enabled by default and you can't control the times when it downloads the updates. This is annoying when I am trying to play a game and it suddenly decides to download.

2. The maintenance options is similar to the windows update - It won't turn off. Even if I schedule it to only do so after a specified time, It would still run whenever it detects the computer to be idle. This is annoying because maintenance such as Defragmenting the hard disk slows the computer down so much.

But eventually, I got used to it. I left my computer turned on for a whole night. It finished downloading everything and finished defragmenting the whole hard drive. Now the windows update downloads are small, and the maintenance needs to do less. Smile I was also surprised that all the programs from my windows 8 installation are working!
Blummer
lightwate wrote:
After updating to windows 10 from windows 8, I was immediately frustrated.

1. Windows update is enabled by default and you can't control the times when it downloads the updates. This is annoying when I am trying to play a game and it suddenly decides to download.


You can't control the times, but I was able to disable it from the administrative tools - after cancelling it a few times. There was no need for the extra drivers, I nad everything collected in one place. I'd agree, that auto update function is very-very annoying.
Da Rossa
It's been quite a while since I switched from Windows 8.1 to 10 and it is running so smoothly I can't even remember the last time I had to waste time doing any kind of maintenance. Only the usual CCleaner. And the updates, but they're unbtrusive for me.

When I upgraded from 7 to 8, I downgraded to 7 four times along 2 and a half years because 8 was not suiting me.
hown
I have been using Windows10 since the first day it was released.
So far there isn't any issue anything just works buttery smooth.
jestoy0514
I am using windows 7 at work then the free upgrade to windows 10 happen. I do not hate windows os nor trying to bring anyone hopes down. I experience a lot of crashes and blue screen with windows 10 to the point that I had to bring the laptop to our IT specialist just to re-install windows 7 which for me was the best since the windows xp release. Same thing happens with my sister at her work after the upgrade to windows 10 she can barely use it so she don't have any choice but to downgrade back to windows 7. And I have this huge problem with hdmi. It can't detect the hdmi external monitor most of the times. But I was using the external monitor great in windows 7 and had no problems at all.
Marcuzzo
jestoy0514 wrote:
I am using windows 7 at work then the free upgrade to windows 10 happen. I do not hate windows os nor trying to bring anyone hopes down. I experience a lot of crashes and blue screen with windows 10 to the point that I had to bring the laptop to our IT specialist just to re-install windows 7 which for me was the best since the windows xp release. Same thing happens with my sister at her work after the upgrade to windows 10 she can barely use it so she don't have any choice but to downgrade back to windows 7. And I have this huge problem with hdmi. It can't detect the hdmi external monitor most of the times. But I was using the external monitor great in windows 7 and had no problems at all.


Your HDMI issue is probably caused by an incompatible driver.
you should have your IT check the display drivers and make sure that the latest version (which is compatible with Windows 10) is installed.

Are you running a 'home' version at work? because Enterprise versions don't get the 'free' update.

At my work I'm the IT guy that does this kind of stuff and for one customer we had to migrate directly from windows 7 to 10 which was a huge PITA. incompatible drivers, hardware that was no where near sufficient, etc...

I've never had any issues with my own ( work ) laptop but this thing is a beast:
Code:

C:\Users\marco>systeminfo
Host Name:                 CI1013466
OS Name:                   Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise
OS Version:                10.0.10240 N/A Build 10240
OS Manufacturer:           Microsoft Corporation
OS Configuration:          Member Workstation
OS Build Type:             Multiprocessor Free
Original Install Date:     22/02/2016, 12:08:32
System Manufacturer:       Hewlett-Packard
System Model:              HP EliteBook 850 G1
System Type:               x64-based PC
Processor(s):              1 Processor(s) Installed.
                           [01]: Intel64 Family 6 Model 69 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~2100 Mhz
BIOS Version:              Hewlett-Packard L71 Ver. 01.20, 28/07/2014
System Locale:             nl-be;Dutch (Belgium)
Input Locale:              nl-be;Dutch (Belgium)
Time Zone:                 (UTC+01:00) Brussels, Copenhagen, Madrid, Paris
Total Physical Memory:     16 281 MB
Available Physical Memory: 11 979 MB
Virtual Memory: Max Size:  18 713 MB
Virtual Memory: Available: 14 623 MB
Virtual Memory: In Use:    4 090 MB

and a 256GB SSD

Dancing


deanhills wrote:
Gehr wrote:

Note: Please watch the install of this program, as it prompts to do nonsense things like change your homepage and/or add toolbars to your favorite Internet Browsers[/img]
OK, I was just getting interested until I noticed this warning.

I hate any software that prompts nonsense - Adobe Flash Player is a good example, like having options ticked by default.

An now I've really lost interest in Windows 10 as well. I don't see the reason in having it when Windows 7 is still working OK.

But maybe you have a list of reasons why Windows 10 would be good to have over Windows 7 or 8.1?


Dean, the only reason I can think of is support which will end for windows 7 sooner then we want to believe.
If you don't need to use windows for professional reasons, I'd say go ahead and stop using windows all together, that's what I would do should the day ever come.

regarding this 'utility', this is a perfect example of cr*pware...
you are better off using something like this: unf*ck Windows 10

most of these settings are registry keys anyways so why bother running something that may do even more damage
jestoy0514
Sorry forgot to mention the HDMI problem was on my home laptop. I did update it to the latest compatible version of the graphics driver straight from the lenovo website but no luck. So I have switched to LInux full time since then.
loveandormoney
Linux does not have problems with that When U are new with computers:
U can use Linux and Win on one Computer. And Linux is free.
Da Rossa
loveandormoney wrote:
Linux does not have problems with that When U are new with computers:
U can use Linux and Win on one Computer. And Linux is free.


If I were advertising Windows on a Linux topic loaded with fanboys, I'd be trolled away. So the same should apply here: why are you talking Linux on a Windows 10 topic?
deanhills
Excellent point Da Rossa. Also doesn't look as though this topic is going anywhere for Windows 10. So think it's best we close it.
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