I heard on the news last night that the ACLU is trying to help convicted pedophiles get out of jail.
One such pedophile was convicted of raping a 9 year old boy over the course of THREE YEARS. He was sentanced to TWO YEARS in prison.
The local government is keeping him in jail on some kind of civil detention (he's obviously not safe to be among the rest of the population), and the ACLU is trying to get him released!
No links right now, but it was on Fox News. I'll try to dig up some links.
Peddling dimebags of weed could get you 10 years.
| shr3dd wrote: |
| Peddling dimebags of weed could get you 10 years. |
I was over at FoxNews.com looking for an article and found an article of a lady having sex with high school kids, (the kids were likely willing), and she got 30 years.
WTF!?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175581,00.html
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| GOLDEN, Colo. — A woman who authorities said had sex with high school boys during alcohol- and drug-fueled parties has been sentenced to 30 years in prison, officials said. |
I found the subject they were talking about, but it doesn't mention the guy that raped that kid for 3 years and only got sentanced to 2.
http://www.billoreilly.com/show;jsessionid=7FFCDF3111428C57C0B2D7E800887F9F?action=viewTVShow&showID=541#3 Man, you think you've heard it all... and then - this. If what you say is true, I've never heard of such ridiculousness in my life. First of all, the fact that he's only getting two years and, secondly, the fact that some organization is trying to get him and others out!
You just never know, I guess.
A lot of people that do time in Canada for instance get off pretty easy. People do a year if that for murder and such sometimes.
Actually two years of jail for a rapist isn't that unreasonable... would raping a woman make a difference in the number of years spent in jail than if he raped a child? If most murderers only got about four to five years in jail...
Oh well, I still think the punishment isn't nearly severe enough to scare people off from committing crimes ):
I would never rape anyone, even if someone is a little violated they still feel terrible. Guys should find a way to control their hornyness. 
I'm a guy btw. Here's a mention of that guy I was talking about in the first post.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175857,00.html
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The situation is troubling because many of the 12 are brutal individuals who received little jail time for their crimes. New York is the worst state in the union when it comes to sentencing, punishing violent sex offenders.
Convict A raped a three-year-old boy, inflicting internal injuries on the child. He served three and a half years, if you can believe it. Three and a half years.
Convict B sexually abused three girls who were 10 years old, two were 10 years old I should say, the other 12. He got six years.
Convict C raped a boy, this convict, repeatedly, over a three-year period beginning when the boy was 10. The rapist got two years.
All of these men and nine others could be released because of Judge Silbermann’s order. The judge will tell you she’s just following the law, but the law is open to interpretation. Her order will be appealed by the state, which believes it’s upholding the law. |
America should meditate sex-culture.sex freedom not equel to freedom.
Ewww... Did you see the picture of that lady? I don't think a teenage boy would want to have sex with her! I think that she probably used something like a date-rape.
Ahh, this story peaked my interest.
I don't mind admitting, recently, I had a slight problem with the law myself. Back in June, I was involved in a silly joyriding incident. At the age of 36, and with no criminal record it was a strange event indeed, and as it involved a FireTruck it received quite a lot of media attention.
I don't know why I did it, someone spiked my drinks with valium whilst I was out on a party with a good m8 of mine. Anyway, that's a long story...
Anyway, for my crime, and due in no small part to the news reporting, and the cameras; I spent 3 months in the pleasure of St. Clair Co. Jail, Port Huron, MI, I heard a lot of things, and saw even worse.
One of the things that struck me is the fact that the Peedies get very very light sentences, yet someone who drink drives on a second offence can get up to a year in jail?
Someone on their second possession of marijuana can get a year in jail, or two years in prison.
I saw cases there where peedies were being released on Personal Recognisance Bonds, yet Marijuana possessors had $ 5,000 bonds with no cash surety? I, myself, had a $ 7,500 bond with no 10%, thus ensuring that I stayed in jail while the media attention over the border breach died down...
Peedies receiving 90 day sentences, when more petty crimes were being punished with a year etc, etc.
I am a parent myself and what I would like to know is this: WTF is wrong with the American Legal system. Why is it more permissible and acceptable for people to molest children than for someone to have a joint in their pocket ?
Is this because of the "celebrity" factor in molestation, MJ, etc etc or what, because it baffles me.
I'm moving back to the UK in a few weeks after 7 1/2 years in the U.S. and 3 years in Canada, and to be honest, I'm quite glad to be going. It's still crazy over there, but it's not quite on the insanity level that the U.S. has reached over recent years.
here is something similar
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=4141958&nav=9qrx
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VISALIA, Calif. A former high school teacher convicted of having sex with three male students will spend a year in county jail after a judge suspended her prison sentence.
Twenty-six-year-old Elizabeth Stow pleaded no contest in June to 12 felony counts, including sexual intercourse with a minor and oral copulation. She was a first-year English teacher at Tulare Western High School.
In a hearing today, Tulare County Superior Court Judge Walter Gorelick gave her a suspended prison sentence of nine years and four months. Stow instead will be sent to county jail for one year -- followed by five years of probation with 28 special conditions such as seeking counseling and surrendering her teaching credential.
Stow also must register as a sex offender. |
I guess light sentences to these guys are handed out to them because they are considered sick persons.
If there is no cure for pedophilies by means of medicines , I would like them to be put in a condition that doesn't harm children in our society.
I do not think prison will do any good to them. When out again, they will still feel their internal drive to go and rape a child. These sick person, in my opinion should be CASTRATED first and should be forced to pay, for what it is worth, psycological treatment for their victims for as long as necessary to remove their bad experience from their minds.
| biga57 wrote: |
| a condition that doesn't harm children in our society.. |
And since we all agree harming children is bad we need to put an end to sex promotion 'classes' in public schools. Encouraging kids to have sex with each other is another level of sick sick harmThere's kids having sex with each other, then there's adults raping kids.
Somewhat different in my view.
kids having sex with kids is
STATUTORY RAPE
encouraging a crime is a crime itself.
That is true. I'm not encouraging anything though.
Ack...this is an era that won't be forgotten in the USA. Personally I think there is no such thing as rehabilitating a child molester. We should just rape them repeatedly, then make them die a slow agonizing death.
is the black tar coating your soul from excessive smoking or something else?
I think raping a child is gross and 2 years of imprisonment isn't enough!I think the government should increase the sentence of rapists once proven guilty of such crime.
Suff like this shows how bad our judicial system is. Its rare these days for justice to be served.
| driftingfe3s wrote: |
| Suff like this shows how bad our judicial system is. Its rare these days for justice to be served. |
Actually, that lady that provided a party and sex to kids willingly got 30 years. It's only a few states, like New York, that are pieces of shit about it. | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| shr3dd wrote: | | Peddling dimebags of weed could get you 10 years. |
I was over at FoxNews.com looking for an article and found an article of a lady having sex with high school kids, (the kids were likely willing), and she got 30 years.
WTF!?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175581,00.html
| Quote: | | GOLDEN, Colo. — A woman who authorities said had sex with high school boys during alcohol- and drug-fueled parties has been sentenced to 30 years in prison, officials said. |
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if what you say is true , the guy should be removed from society permanently. However , fox news is no source to rely on. And do you know any other facts about the case? anything you've discovered , but not through fox news ?
secondly , partaking in marijuana is about freedom of choice , and when its sold it involves two consenting people. a rapist or a murderer , or a violent sociopath should never ever under any circumstance get off lighter than someone using or selling marijuana - FOR ****** SAKEyes, well I heard about a week ago about a man who raped his 2 months old baby :S.. afterwhile, he was 'only' been put away for 2 years :S I really don't get that kind of stupidity
| gonzo wrote: |
And since we all agree harming children is bad we need to put an end to sex promotion 'classes' in public schools. Encouraging kids to have sex with each other is another level of sick sick harm |
I agree and disagree at the same time. Teaching kids to have sex with each other is bad, but teaching them about it is not. Without the proper level of education about such things our whole world would think it is acceptable to be child molesters and such...That is not justice! I think he should have got at least 10 years for that.
I imagine he will get what is coming to him on the outside (hopefully stumble upon a Hells Angels pub in which the boys father drinks!)...
Having spent a decade working with juvenile delinquents and the last three years of that specifically with sex offenders (molesters and rapists) I can honestly say there is not enough evidence to convince me they are
rehabilitative.
And consider this: The statistic in 1998 was that 50% of a molester's victims will become perpetrators themselves. Molesters can have as many as a few hundred victems (rare but possible). And typically will have 20 or more victims. Consider the pyramid of victims that creates. The problem is getting worse.
Trust no one completely with your children, molesters like any predator will align themseles to have access to prey. They are vey charming and usually intelligent. Which are tools of their trade.
Sorry to spread fear but it is better to be safe than sorry. I also have extensive experience working with victims of abuse.
Train your children to NOT be victims.
T. Farrell
My sister is studying law at the moment, and she was telling me all the horrible things about the Swedish justice system and how they were dealing with rapists and victims. One of the cases she told me about was a girl who had gone to a party with a couple of guy friends. She was drunk and clearly did stupid things that night. Apparently the boys had tied her up, raped her repeatedly, urinated on her and a whole bunch of other horrible things I can't remember. The boys were drunk and foolish enough to take pictures of the entire night. When it came to court you would have thought it was a clear sentance. The defence found one picture from that night when the girl was smiling at the boys and from that the jury ordered that the boys couldnt have known that the girl was not in accordance with what they were doing with it. They did not get punished.
Even male friends of my sister thought it was horrendous just because this decision basically classifies men as stupid enough not to realize when a girl decides enough is enough.
This is only my opinion, but to me, rape is almost worse than murder just because the life of the affected person is ruined. Only few manage to lead a normal life after a rape. The weight placed on the crime is far to light, in comparison to the damage it does.
I think I need to do a crash course in law one of these days, maybe then I'll understand better why the system works the way it does. At the moment, I can't understand why someone who attempted murder will not get the same punishmen as someone who did commit murder because the crime is the same, one just didn't succeed.
I'm no math wizzz, but I don't think it is possible, in our dimension being time and space, to do any thing to any 9 year old anything for 3 years. 
| horseatingweeds wrote: |
| I'm no math wizzz, but I don't think it is possible, in our dimension being time and space, to do any thing to any 9 year old anything for 3 years. |
sorry, I really don't understand...? 
| Linda wrote: |
| horseatingweeds wrote: | | I'm no math wizzz, but I don't think it is possible, in our dimension being time and space, to do any thing to any 9 year old anything for 3 years. |
sorry, I really don't understand...? |
horseatingweeds meant that you cannot do something over a 3 year period of time to a 9 year old because after 3 years they would not be 9 anymore; they would be 12.That's a really petty thing to point out in a discussion like this...
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| And since we all agree harming children is bad we need to put an end to sex promotion 'classes' in public schools. Encouraging kids to have sex with each other is another level of sick sick harm |
I have to disagree that sex aid classes in school are sex promoting. I had them too in middle school and they sure didn't make me want to jump the next best person.
Kids get in touch with the topics through television, magazines, music and other media sources. Sex aid classes aren't meant to introduce them to it, just to make sure kids are aware of possible consequences. One cant stop rape by security or watsoever, One's midset has to change to do so ... 
| gonzo wrote: |
| biga57 wrote: | | a condition that doesn't harm children in our society.. |
And since we all agree harming children is bad we need to put an end to sex promotion 'classes' in public schools. Encouraging kids to have sex with each other is another level of sick sick harm |
Promoting? Sex ed doesn't promote the idea of use having sex - it simply means we understand it. Also, sex education includes info on personal hygeine, and the normality of masturbation. Because it is normal, not only for guys, but for girls as well.
I believe it's a better world that we understand how our bodies work.
Every gov school in Australia has sex ed, and most of the priv schools - teenage pregnancy actaully decreased after it was initiated. I'm 15, I haven't had sex, and I'm not planning to either. (Not that it's somethign that can be planned at all). | horseatingweeds wrote: |
| I'm no math wizzz, but I don't think it is possible, in our dimension being time and space, to do any thing to any 9 year old anything for 3 years. |
Oh, sorry. I figured most people here were at least in high school and would have been able to at least GUESS that the attacks started at the age of 9, lasted 3 years, ending at 12. But alas, I should have spelled it out completely for our more cerebrally challenged members.
