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ohlee
even when under attack did he have call the white
jmraker
Here's a timeline of the event:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/politics/benghazi-attack-timeline/index.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444620104578008922056244096.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57544719/benghazi-timeline-how-the-attack-unfolded/

Quote:
An alert is sent to the CIA security team at an annex about a mile away, the State Department and the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. Stevens calls deputy mission chief Gregory Hicks at the embassy and tells him, "Greg, we're under attack."


There are some who say that they were running guns
http://www.examiner.com/article/was-stevens-murdered-to-coverup-u-s-gun-running-from-libya-to-alqaeda-syria
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10
http://townhall.com/columnists/katiekieffer/2013/04/29/benghazigate-obamas-secret-gunrunning-program-n1580051/page/full
handfleisch
jmraker wrote:
Here's a timeline of the event:


I see that after their government shutdown finally ended, the GOP started talking about Benghazi again right away. It's like they don't care about their job at all, don't want to manage the government, and are obsessed with their fake scandals that no one believes except their brainwashed followers. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/17/with-shutdown-over-fox-is-back-on-benghazi/196477
jmraker
What exactly was faked about what happened in Benghazi?

Since it's obviously a faked scandal, then something that happened there must have been faked.
handfleisch
jmraker wrote:
What exactly was faked about what happened in Benghazi?

Since it's obviously a faked scandal, then something that happened there must have been faked.


What's fake is the political scandal part. It was never a political scandal, but FOX and the RW entertainment complex have pushed it as a political scandal, harder than they push the War on Christmas. And even though it's been thoroughly investigated and the "scandal" debunked, they haven't stopped the propaganda to this day:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/10/18/mark-levin-calls-for-boycott-of-conservative-po/196491
Quote:

Fox Pushes Falsehood That Obama Administration Had Warning Of Benghazi Attack

Despite his previous criticism of Fox News for shilling Benghazi myths, Fox host Geraldo Rivera ignored the Republican House Intelligence Committee chairman, an independent review, and testimony by a former defense secretary to push the falsehood that the Obama administration had adequate warning to prevent the September 11, 2012, Benghazi attack.
jmraker
Yes, we all know the attack was caused by outrage over the poor production standards of a youtube video. Yeah, that's the ticket.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/time-choosing/2013/may/15/benghazi-showcase-lies-and-incompetence-obama-and-/

More timelines on what happened during and afterwards:
http://theweek.com/article/index/234104/the-white-houses-evolving-story-on-the-benghazi-attack-a-timeline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_investigation_into_the_2012_Benghazi_attack

Now that the thorough investigation is done does anyone have the current info on what the president was doing during the attack? I heard so many versions, he was in the situation room taking the lead, he handed it off to someone and went back to sleep, nobody told him about it, he wasn't around, he said something like "Do whatever it takes" while the military in the area and the guys fighting back who died were told to stand down, he wasn't asleep, etc.
handfleisch
jmraker wrote:


Now that the thorough investigation is done does anyone have the current info on what the president was doing during the attack?


Since the seemingly endless monkey-trial investigation found there was no scandal at all, why don't you do some minimum research and answer the question for yourself?
jmraker
The monkey trial might have ended a while ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Trial

The results of my minimum research:
He had some free time that night
http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11
He didn't do anything specific, but was informed
http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/what-did-obama-do-on-9112012/
He ordered subordinates to "make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to."
http://www.creators.com/opinion/terence-jeffrey/what-did-obama-do-when-on-9-11-12.html
He could have skipped 6 days of intelligence briefings beforehand
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/09/obama-skips-intel-briefing-after-91112-attacks-and-murder-of-us-diplomats-goes-to-vegas-fundraising-.html
He just watched it and was on the phone to his secretary of state and Netanyahu for an hour
http://joeforamerica.com/2013/05/benghazi-obamas-schedule-phone-calls-on-91112-are-not-irrelevant/
There's some doubt that the results of the thorough investigation are really thorough
http://oversight.house.gov/report/benghazi-attacks-investigative-update-interim-report-on-the-accountability-review-board/
If this is the report of the thorough investigation, it doesn't seem to mention the actions of the president
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

A little more on what happened that night.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57609479/60-minutes-benghazi/

Has anybody been held accountable for the dangerously incompetent response to the attacks? My minimal research effort has found no names so far.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/20/kerry-lets-benghazi-linked-employees-back-job/
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/benghazi-one-year-later/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/08/20/benghazi-accountability/
handfleisch
jmraker wrote:


The results of my minimum research:
He had some free time that night/


I'm sorry that you wasted so much time in your search by going to berzerk hate sites like "Atlas Shrugs" and right wing newspapers.

The Congressional investigation debunked every claim that started the investigation in the first place--that's why it went nowhere after it was done.

Benghazi was an attack ON the USA--not a scandal BY the USA.

Harping on it is just the result of the insane right wing BS machine that brought us the government shutdown, that brought us all the disasters of the Bush administration, which make any mistake of the Obama administration look microscopic.
jmraker
handfleisch wrote:

I'm sorry that you wasted so much time in your search by going to berzerk hate sites like "Atlas Shrugs" and right wing newspapers.

Benghazi was an attack ON the USA--not a scandal BY the USA.


I wasted so much time on google's right wing search results that took me to all the thousands of crazy right wing berserk hate sites. Seems like they were the only ones that tried in pure hate to report about the president's actions that night... I can only assume it was all imagined in their twisted minds. It's a fact that only the berserk left wing hate sites and newspapers contain credible propaganda about the glorious leader. Obama is pretty much continuing where Bush left off. Obama ≅ Romney, Obama ≅ McCain, Obama ≅ Bush family. The democrats and most of the republicans are pretty much on the same side feigning opposition. When Democrats are in power the Republicans manufacture scandals every week. When Republicans are in power the Democrats manufacture scandals every week. It's the game they keep playing.

Some or all of that berserk right wing "60 Minutes" hate report on Benghazi has been debunked
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57611428/60-minutes-reviewing-account-of-morgan-jones-on-benghazi/

Pretending it wasn't the result of some shred of incompetence somewhere in the chain of command is just the result of the bigger, better, and meaner left wing BS machine.
handfleisch
jmraker wrote:

Some or all of that berserk right wing "60 Minutes" hate report on Benghazi has been debunked
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57611428/60-minutes-reviewing-account-of-morgan-jones-on-benghazi/

Pretending it wasn't the result of some shred of incompetence somewhere in the chain of command is just the result of the bigger, better, and meaner left wing BS machine.


I don't quite get your point. The 60 minutes show is retracting and apologizing for its show, which is exactly my point. Was there a shred of incompetence somewhere in the tragic incident? Yes, it's possible. But look at what the RW did-- turn an attack on our country into their own political attack on our president. They basically did the post-publicity stage of the attack, in effect helping the terrorists.

My other point about the Atlas Shrugged website was just: if we want to learn about space travel, we don't go to a UFO conspiracy website. Right?
Josh255
handfleisch wrote:
jmraker wrote:

Some or all of that berserk right wing "60 Minutes" hate report on Benghazi has been debunked
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57611428/60-minutes-reviewing-account-of-morgan-jones-on-benghazi/

Pretending it wasn't the result of some shred of incompetence somewhere in the chain of command is just the result of the bigger, better, and meaner left wing BS machine.


I don't quite get your point. The 60 minutes show is retracting and apologizing for its show, which is exactly my point. Was there a shred of incompetence somewhere in the tragic incident? Yes, it's possible. But look at what the RW did-- turn an attack on our country into their own political attack on our president. They basically did the post-publicity stage of the attack, in effect helping the terrorists.

My other point about the Atlas Shrugged website was just: if we want to learn about space travel, we don't go to a UFO conspiracy website. Right?


You couldn't have said it better. Blaming the president for a terrorist attack is giving terrorists what they want. You also have to consider that such attacks are not uncommon in unstable areas. For example Iran's embassy in Beirut was attacked just recently.

Here is a list of attacks on US diplomatic facilities further reflecting the unsuitability and hate in these dangerous war torn areas. Benghazi was simply nothing new. Such attacks have been occurring for decades.
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