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lekky
Hello all,

Are all images found on Google 'images' search copyrights?. How can one find the information, I've saved a few images from Google search, am I allowed to use them as I want ? please advise if you know the answers.

with regards
amagard
"Images may be subject to copyright" is a message I get displayed when searching for images with google and then clicking on one. I just wonder why google is allowed to actually use then in their search results ... Shocked
One of probably many examples how fuzzy law is when it comes to the wild wild web.
Peterssidan
Most websites don't say how we are allowed to use the images so Google can't possible know. It is just best to assume you are not allowed to use them, or just ask the site owners. I think Google get away with it because Google just show low quality miniatures of the images and link to the original source. I think this is what the Americans call fair use.

If you use the Advanced Image Search you can filter the result by usage rights, but I guess this will limit the number of images quite a lot because, as I said before, Google can't possible know for most images.
manfer
Peterssidan wrote:
Most websites don't say how we are allowed to use the images so Google can't possible know. It is just best to assume you are not allowed to use them, or just ask the site owners. I think Google get away with it because Google just show low quality miniatures of the images and link to the original source. I think this is what the Americans call fair use.

If you use the Advanced Image Search you can filter the result by usage rights, but I guess this will limit the number of images quite a lot because, as I said before, Google can't possible know for most images.


I agree with the possible fair use in american law but I don't agree with the low quality miniatures of the images and link to the original because that's not true as for today.

Maybe in the past that was true but not in actual google images (and it is some time ago they are using the new google images interface). In the new google images interface you are presented first with the miniatures but when you click in the minuature you see a preview of the original image embedded into google images website (the image is only resampled on the browser to a different smaller size but is the original image at full size) with some buttons to the right of the image and info about it and when you click on show original image is when you are redirected to the original site, but not before. Besides webmasters doesn't like very much that show original image feature because what you want is people visiting your site not just seeing your images in full screen without even visiting nothing from your site.

For example this is the HTML code of one of those image previews embedded into the google images interface:
Code:

<img id="irc_mi" width="393" height="393" src="http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1100030/thumbs/o-MARS-facebook.jpg" style="margin-top: 0px;">


So, yes, google images is using all the images without explicit consent by copyright holders. And not only that. Or I'm very wrong or that code indicates they are doing hot linking and stealing bandwidth. And this last problem about hot linking and bandwith stealing affects any site with images. Even if the images are free public domain images you don't want your bandwith stolen.

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In fact, I have now done a search if there were complaints about it and indeed a lot of people complaints about new google images hotlinks. Not sure if google image searh engine can be considered to be doing fair use of the images any more, but..., instead of justice doing something about it webmasters have to do their best to stop google bad policies without stoping it completely.

If a person is using firefox they can just download the original image without visiting the original site by just right clicking on the preview of the image and on the menu that popups clicking on show image details. A firefox window will popup showing the info of the image, its preview and a button to save the image (in other browsers you are going to be able to download the images too some way or another once the image is already stored in the browser cache). Is that fair use?
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