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Should the WHOIS registry be abolished?





twotrophy
Should the WHOIS registry be abolished? The WHOIS registry is a database that is managed by ICANN containing personal information of domain name registration not only containing your full name, it also contains sensitive information such as your phone number and street address. Although proxy services such as Domains by Proxy exist to hide your personal information and replaces it with information belonging to these web services, you would still have to give out your personal information to these services.

Free domains that are given by Frihost are also affected by this which is a privacy concern to some of us users who request domain names. Although it is possible to fake such information, in an event of a complaint by any person who notices fake Whois data, you will lose your domain because ICANN would terminate it. But according to Bondings in a private message, this risk is low unless your domain name is popular. ICANN should look at other alternative solutions to the current Whois system.
badai
nah... who wants to spend money buying pokeman doll if they don't know where to return it if they got ultraman doll by mistake. beside, you never have to put your real name, address, phone and e-mail on top level domain, and some countries domain. so no real issue here.

the real issue is, i really believe someday all government will require us to put real name, address, phone and e-mail when we buy domain. maybe one government will just kill another thousands of their people, create fictional terrorist organization, and blame kim dot com because he let those terrorist swap file easily on mega. then we all need to register to use the Internet. and Bonding have to keep copies of our government issue ID.
twotrophy
badai wrote:
beside, you never have to put your real name, address, phone and e-mail on top level domain, and some countries domain. so no real issue here.

Then what top-level domain names do not have the requirement of having such personal information other than .tk? DotTK has been said to earn money by parking domains once it becomes popular. I am not willing to write my personal information online other than on Facebook and e-mail. I would be willing to fake my details.

badai wrote:
and Bonding have to keep copies of our government issue ID.


Bondings gives GoDaddy coupons instead of registering domain names. GoDaddy is the registrant.
catscratches
badai wrote:
the real issue is, i really believe someday all government will require us to put real name, address, phone and e-mail when we buy domain.
You mean like they already do? (Ok, so they kinda do and kinda don't...)
Peterssidan
They probably need to have this information to make sure who has registered the domain. It's not very fun if someone can claim to be you and steal the domain. I don't really understand why this information has to be publicly available for everyone though. I would prefer if they kept it secret for "normal" internet users.

I have not updated my domain details since I moved to a new location so my whois address is not correct any more. Wink
LxGoodies
Peterssidan wrote:
They probably need to have this information to make sure who has registered the domain. It's not very fun if someone can claim to be you and steal the domain. I don't really understand why this information has to be publicly available for everyone though. I would prefer if they kept it secret for "normal" internet users.

I have not updated my domain details since I moved to a new location so my whois address is not correct any more. Wink


Similar here. I registered my Dutch domain years ago & moved. And in fact the first thing does not really count, because as far as I know, a domain registration comes with an online control interface and password. You have that password. Someone else cannot hijack your domain, unless 1) the domain registrator gets cracked or acts illegal or 2) someone else knows your password. There are technical workarounds for hijacking (3) that I won't explain here ( Razz ) no one is really safe if you know how DNS works..

Technically, there is no need to register names with domains, let alone street information, but the law requires it, because the law has been designed in the 90's. Nowadays, there is a public WhoIsIP, google for it. You specify the IP address. This works similar: the hosting provider has a legal obligation to register you identity when the IP is handed out to you. Any dedicated server can be tracked down, no matter what domain or redirects you put on top.

Whether these legal obligations are justified... well... I feel that in 99.99% of the cases, it is indeed infringing privacy. But in other cases, such as websites presenting e.g. child pornography, I think it is quite right that websites can be traced somehow.

Lx
johans
I think who is? is really important to show who is the owner but really i am confused some domain registration have option payment to hide who is.

if this high importance then i guess the option of hiding name of owners will always be shown.
LxGoodies
johans wrote:
I think who is? is really important to show who is the owner but really i am confused some domain registration have option payment to hide who is.

if this high importance then i guess the option of hiding name of owners will always be shown.


Dunno.. maybe in some countries it is not obligatory ? In the Netherlands (as fas as i know) I can't register a .nl domain without specifying my full data.. it could be easier for .org maybe ? I'd like to know that also..

Lx
twotrophy
What about building an alternative DNS system to bypass ICANN restrictions? Let's go to this thread to discuss about it: http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-149009.html
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