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Romney and Obama debate





darthrevan
Did anybody watch the debate last night, and if so what did you think about it? So far I haven't heard anything about it, but maybe I will sometime today. Atleast get some recap from it.
Josso
No.

and this is what I thought of it:

deanhills
I checked the news today. Looks as though Romney managed to do well, however with no noticeable changes in voter sentiment. I.e. he did well in the debate, but not to the extent that Obama voters felt they had to change their votes.
darthrevan
deanhills wrote:
I checked the news today. Looks as though Romney managed to do well, however with no noticeable changes in voter sentiment. I.e. he did well in the debate, but not to the extent that Obama voters felt they had to change their votes.

I may try and watch it sometime, either way I don't trust politics
ocalhoun
Nope, didn't watch the 'who's the better liar' competition.
deanhills
darthrevan wrote:
deanhills wrote:
I checked the news today. Looks as though Romney managed to do well, however with no noticeable changes in voter sentiment. I.e. he did well in the debate, but not to the extent that Obama voters felt they had to change their votes.

I may try and watch it sometime, either way I don't trust politics
Neither do I. I'm also not as interested as I used to be, since I'm not that terribly enthused by the two candidates. I'll try and improve on that however as just discovered tonight I can get US News Channels online.
coolclay
Nope, I am not watching a pseudo-representation of the presidential choices. It might as well have been a turd sandwich and a giant douche (sorry, South Park reference).
Afaceinthematrix
I find it ironically that, multiple times, Romney would refer to the Constitution and talk about how we need to follow the Constitution. Meanwhile, he's against restricting pornography access which is surely a first amendment violation, for the prohibition of marijuana at the federal level (which is not only a stupid and insane view that the average American does NOT hold anymore, but also not justified by the Constitution), and worst of all, he mentioned that Americans recognize a Creator (I don't remember his exact words) which is against the establishment cause of the Constitution. I'm not a huge fan of Obama either but at least he doesn't pretend to hold a strict interpretation of the Constitution and then have several of his views completely contradict it.
darthrevan
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
I find it ironically that, multiple times, Romney would refer to the Constitution and talk about how we need to follow the Constitution. Meanwhile, he's against restricting pornography access which is surely a first amendment violation, for the prohibition of marijuana at the federal level (which is not only a stupid and insane view that the average American does NOT hold anymore, but also not justified by the Constitution), and worst of all, he mentioned that Americans recognize a Creator (I don't remember his exact words) which is against the establishment cause of the Constitution. I'm not a huge fan of Obama either but at least he doesn't pretend to hold a strict interpretation of the Constitution and then have several of his views completely contradict it.


If he is against restricting porno, that sounds like protecting the first amendment. I am not for porn, but if he was for restricting it, then that would be against the first amendment.
Afaceinthematrix
darthrevan wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
I find it ironically that, multiple times, Romney would refer to the Constitution and talk about how we need to follow the Constitution. Meanwhile, he's against restricting pornography access which is surely a first amendment violation, for the prohibition of marijuana at the federal level (which is not only a stupid and insane view that the average American does NOT hold anymore, but also not justified by the Constitution), and worst of all, he mentioned that Americans recognize a Creator (I don't remember his exact words) which is against the establishment cause of the Constitution. I'm not a huge fan of Obama either but at least he doesn't pretend to hold a strict interpretation of the Constitution and then have several of his views completely contradict it.


If he is against restricting porno, that sounds like protecting the first amendment. I am not for porn, but if he was for restricting it, then that would be against the first amendment.


My bad. He is for restricting pornography. I started to say that he is against porn and then switched. I typed all of that extremely quickly and then didn't proof read it. Interestingly enough, Romney is obsessed with Reagan. He mentions Reagan all the time and Reagan actually made pornography illegal. But, then again, Reagan was a complete ****** who thought that public policy should be completely dependent on his own personal views and not by freedom and that just because he feels something is immoral it should be illegal.
darthrevan
Afaceinthematrix wrote:

My bad. He is for restricting pornography. I started to say that he is against porn and then switched. I typed all of that extremely quickly and then didn't proof read it. Interestingly enough, Romney is obsessed with Reagan. He mentions Reagan all the time and Reagan actually made pornography illegal. But, then again, Reagan was a complete ****** who thought that public policy should be completely dependent on his own personal views and not by freedom and that just because he feels something is immoral it should be illegal.


I know that the talk radio I listen to, the hosts seems to really like Reagan and saying that he was the best President. That view may be because, according to them, the economy was much better during his reign.
Afaceinthematrix
darthrevan wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:

My bad. He is for restricting pornography. I started to say that he is against porn and then switched. I typed all of that extremely quickly and then didn't proof read it. Interestingly enough, Romney is obsessed with Reagan. He mentions Reagan all the time and Reagan actually made pornography illegal. But, then again, Reagan was a complete ****** who thought that public policy should be completely dependent on his own personal views and not by freedom and that just because he feels something is immoral it should be illegal.


I know that the talk radio I listen to, the hosts seems to really like Reagan and saying that he was the best President. That view may be because, according to them, the economy was much better during his reign.


Reagan did a lot during his presidency. He is best known for Reaganomics or his "voodoo-economics." Furthermore, he stood up the Soviet Union and essentially told them not to eff with the U.S. The Cold War ended up his reign and the Soviet Union fell, which, is exactly what Americans wanted in order to feel safe.

He was a great president but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was an ass who did many things such as greatly increase marijuana possession penalties to ridiculous levels and make pornography illegal (it still is technically illegal but the loophole is that you can argue that it is "art" and not obscene). He essentially felt that everyone should conform to his stone-aged view on morality and, therefore, restricted our freedom with unnecessary and expensive legislation.
darthrevan
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
darthrevan wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:

My bad. He is for restricting pornography. I started to say that he is against porn and then switched. I typed all of that extremely quickly and then didn't proof read it. Interestingly enough, Romney is obsessed with Reagan. He mentions Reagan all the time and Reagan actually made pornography illegal. But, then again, Reagan was a complete ****** who thought that public policy should be completely dependent on his own personal views and not by freedom and that just because he feels something is immoral it should be illegal.


I know that the talk radio I listen to, the hosts seems to really like Reagan and saying that he was the best President. That view may be because, according to them, the economy was much better during his reign.


Reagan did a lot during his presidency. He is best known for Reaganomics or his "voodoo-economics." Furthermore, he stood up the Soviet Union and essentially told them not to eff with the U.S. The Cold War ended up his reign and the Soviet Union fell, which, is exactly what Americans wanted in order to feel safe.

He was a great president but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was an ass who did many things such as greatly increase marijuana possession penalties to ridiculous levels and make pornography illegal (it still is technically illegal but the loophole is that you can argue that it is "art" and not obscene). He essentially felt that everyone should conform to his stone-aged view on morality and, therefore, restricted our freedom with unnecessary and expensive legislation.


If Reagan was still alive and even knowing what you said, I would still vote for him anyway. This country is falling apart and if it takes his other views then so be it. I am not too fond of Romney, though I am not going to vote for Obama; so... you get the idea Smile
Iceaxe0410
Nope, didn't watch the debate. I don't really see much point in it. More than half the things they say they support or will do if they are elected never really happens. A lot of empty promises just to get elected. It's been this way for a long time. The candidates make promises that they don't keep. They say they will do something only to do the exact opposite. It's really just a farce. It really comes down to who messes up the most and who looks better. I suppose whoever has the most charisma is important, but with these two candidates, I'm not really seeing it.
deanhills
Iceaxe0410 wrote:
Nope, didn't watch the debate. I don't really see much point in it. More than half the things they say they support or will do if they are elected never really happens. A lot of empty promises just to get elected. It's been this way for a long time. The candidates make promises that they don't keep. They say they will do something only to do the exact opposite. It's really just a farce. It really comes down to who messes up the most and who looks better. I suppose whoever has the most charisma is important, but with these two candidates, I'm not really seeing it.
Agreed. Obama is the last one to refer to Romney's promises all of the time, Obama was not that good at keeping his promises either. Sort of realistic that they can only make undertakings. Too many factors that mitigate against the realism of making promises. Which probably shows how farcical all of it really is. As you have already pointed out.
darthrevan
Yeah every politician promises alot of crap. Of course we fall for it everytime instead of learning from our mistakes as well.
deanhills
darthrevan wrote:
Yeah every politician promises alot of crap. Of course we fall for it everytime instead of learning from our mistakes as well.
I can't help but wonder however what one does when one basically only has two choices and one doesn't want to vote for either of the two candidates, as whatever one does, may turn into a voter pattern that may lead to the election of the weaker candidate.
darthrevan
deanhills wrote:
darthrevan wrote:
Yeah every politician promises alot of crap. Of course we fall for it everytime instead of learning from our mistakes as well.
I can't help but wonder however what one does when one basically only has two choices and one doesn't want to vote for either of the two candidates, as whatever one does, may turn into a voter pattern that may lead to the election of the weaker candidate.


The way I am doing it this year is to vote opposite of Obama lol. I don't care fire either but I dislike Obama the most.
busman
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
He was a great president but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was an ass who did many things such as greatly increase marijuana possession penalties to ridiculous levels and make pornography illegal (it still is technically illegal but the loophole is that you can argue that it is "art" and not obscene). He essentially felt that everyone should conform to his stone-aged view on morality and, therefore, restricted our freedom with unnecessary and expensive legislation.


Reagan was great? Idk so much about that man...
Afaceinthematrix
busman wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
He was a great president but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was an ass who did many things such as greatly increase marijuana possession penalties to ridiculous levels and make pornography illegal (it still is technically illegal but the loophole is that you can argue that it is "art" and not obscene). He essentially felt that everyone should conform to his stone-aged view on morality and, therefore, restricted our freedom with unnecessary and expensive legislation.


Reagan was great? Idk so much about that man...


I think that around 16 million jobs were created during his terms. He also cut taxes significantly and helped and created an economic boom that lasted until sometime in the 2000s. He ended the Cold War as well. He was quite an accomplished president.

darthrevan wrote:
If Reagan was still alive and even knowing what you said, I would still vote for him anyway. This country is falling apart and if it takes his other views then so be it. I am not too fond of Romney, though I am not going to vote for Obama; so... you get the idea


And what makes you think that Reagan would be able to do anything with the way the country is today? He did a good job in the 80s but we have different issues these days than what he worried about in those days...
busman
Dude I could go on a tiraid about the fact that Reagan was a complete hipocrite, never stuck by his guns, only won the cold war by putting the US in a GIANT debt hole etc.. The only reason Russia backed down is because we outspent them. Reagan was president during the slow but steady upswing of the boom, not really his doing. Lowering taxes doesn't mean jack and you know it dude. Look at Scandinavia or Switzerland or Germany for that manner. Taxes are high but they get so much more from their governments than we do. Reagan was *Bleh* at best. A hippocrite, a liar and a man on the upswing of the US economy does not deserve so much credit to me.

The debate was horrendous at best btw. Romney is a flap-jack and Obama was "UM", "And", "So...". Boring and bromancy with all the agreements to say the least.

@Afaceinthematrix PLEASE do not make me TEAR Reagan apart. The man is dead and I will give him that level of respect.[/b]
darthrevan
Afaceinthematrix wrote:

busman wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
He was a great president but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was an ass who did many things such as greatly increase marijuana possession penalties to ridiculous levels and make pornography illegal (it still is technically illegal but the loophole is that you can argue that it is "art" and not obscene). He essentially felt that everyone should conform to his stone-aged view on morality and, therefore, restricted our freedom with unnecessary and expensive legislation.


Reagan was great? Idk so much about that man...


I think that around 16 million jobs were created during his terms. He also cut taxes significantly and helped and created an economic boom that lasted until sometime in the 2000s. He ended the Cold War as well. He was quite an accomplished president.

darthrevan wrote:
If Reagan was still alive and even knowing what you said, I would still vote for him anyway. This country is falling apart and if it takes his other views then so be it. I am not too fond of Romney, though I am not going to vote for Obama; so... you get the idea


And what makes you think that Reagan would be able to do anything with the way the country is today? He did a good job in the 80s but we have different issues these days than what he worried about in those days...

Well I don't know but they say you have to look in the past to keep from making the same mistakes, atleast that was what I was taught in school. I know one thing I don't see or crappy president now, fixing or issues
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