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B3r3tta
I just finished watching episode 52-53 which is the last episode available at the moment and I have this to say about the series. It is simply amazing. It has in my opinion very little flaws. If you haven't seen or want to see it there are many sites that have it for direct download. You can also find it on torrent sites or any P2P.

Here is a quick summary:
Ichigo Kurosaki is a 15-year old boy with an angry face. He also has the ability to see ghosts. This brings him trouble when one day, he meets a Death God named Rukia Kuchiki, one who destroys Hollows, destructive beings created from dead people who are left on Earth. In an incident with a Hollow, Rukia transfers her energy to Ichigo, to create him into a Death God. As mysterious new characters arise, Ichigo must learn that the Hollows aren't his only enemy, and to destroy them, he must learn the way of a Death God.
Kurosaki Ichigo is not a regular 15 year old, because he has always had the ability to see spirits and ghosts. One day, a female Shinigami (God of Death) named Kuchiki Rukia appears before him, hunting for an evil spirit. But during the confrontation, the Shinigami's powers are transfered to Ichigo. Thus begins the adventures of Ichigo and Rukia and their mission to herd Hollows (fallen spirits) as well as confronting other spiritual beings.
gonzo
I watched episode 1 last night. I'll be watching 2-25 from scarrywater Anime Keep in the next few weeks.
Air
just watch episode 54 , so exciting !!
nakamaru
Bleach is awesome. So is naruto except when it's destroyed on CN.
Revo-X
Bleach is fun-filled and exciting. ^_^
And what do you mean destroyed by CN ? What's CN? Surprised
nakamaru
Cartoon Network smart one. Destoryed as in poorly dubbed and chopped to pieces.
Air
after the anime have been dubbed , the story-line feels different, better to watch the original anime in jap with subtitles
Monkeydog
nakamaru wrote:
Cartoon Network smart one. Destoryed as in poorly dubbed and chopped to pieces.

Well Revo could just not have cable or live in a place were there is Cartoon Network.
I never seen Bleach...I may kind of want to see it, but it doesn't look too intersting to me.
PristonMaster
bleach is the best anime i ever had seen in my life!1!!!
the history, the characters, the design is all good
i was looking for more information about this anime and it have been the most wanted anime in japan, the first place anime!!
only animes i watched before bleach was pokemon :p (8-12y), digimone(8-12y), dragonball (8-12~13y) and jackchan :p

a realy good anime to see

*i think people will like to see this since 30~40 epi cause is more exciting^^
driftingfe3s
Bleach is awesome! I haven't watched the recent episodes, but I'm caught up on the manga. Its getting really good right now.

Any one have any cool Bleach memorbelia? I'm thinking of getting my girlfrined a plush Kon (she also likes bleach) and maybe something for myself.
nakamaru
Monkeydog wrote:
nakamaru wrote:
Cartoon Network smart one. Destoryed as in poorly dubbed and chopped to pieces.

Well Revo could just not have cable or live in a place were there is Cartoon Network.
I never seen Bleach...I may kind of want to see it, but it doesn't look too intersting to me.


Yeah I was probably in a bad mood when I wrote that. It doesn't look interesting at first but it is after you watch even the first episode. I thought the plot was stupid sounding when reading summaries but Bleach defitely is one of the best animes of all time. You can get the old episodes at getitfido.com in the downloads section. Just make sure you have a good popup blocker.
Scaramanga
I would say that ANYONE who says that Bleach is the best anime EVAR(!!!1!) probably hasn't seen very much anime. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Bleach, I just don't think it's the end-all-be-all of anime. It's a fairly straightforward shounen-fighting title (see my comments in the Naruto thread,) that has a pretty simplistic story (so far, although I will admit recent episodes may be developing that somewhat.)
Dragate
I agree... it's not THAT good, it's okay... used to be much funier
Pistol
too bad it had to take an arc out of the storyline. The arc just messed up the anime
mtoni
I have seen Bleach from the beginning (so i have to wait every week :S)
and i simply love it. I think it's even better than Naruto cuz Naruto have a lot of flashbacks, and repeats from earlier episodes.

Bleach has a good mix of action and humor and I like that
Garnet
I thought the Bleach anime did a great job of following the manga and for once having it be just as good. The music for that show is perfect too, season 1 opening was excellent! I havne't seen anything after ep 56, since I've been reading the manga up to the latest and it still gets a little tireing watching a show when you know exactly what's coming. I like that it wasn't like FMA where there's way way way too many "filler eps."

As far as it being the best anime - I would say it's super good, but not quite as good as other one's in it's catagory like Naruto, cowboy bebop etc.
sunrise
I used to like Naruto, but after it went off on its arc, I stopped watching it for Bleach. I haven't been able to watch the last few episodes, but I have read what happens, so I'm still updated. Bleach has a lot more global characters than Naruto, meaning they have Mexican, black, etc. characters, so it's a bit more interesting just for that. It also has the teddy bear. Wink
Garnet
Yeah I enjoyed that about Bleach too, and I thought it was pretty fun that there were shinigami from other ethnic backgrounds. Yeah of all the little animal mascot thingies ( p-chan, tama-chan etc) Kon's the best. Granted, he isn't really an animal, but that's sort of the role he got.
ddukki
Anyone read Bleach? I've gotten into this manga so fast. I read the available 216 chapters within the last week. Probably finished within the first four days.
TeK
The Bleach manga is definately one of my favorites. Good story, with awesome characters.
eku53ru
I love the Bleach manga; I own nine of the tankoubon and I've been following the chapters as they've been released in Weekly Jump. I'm up to chapter 217.

The latest arc is sorta odd to me, though, with the Arrancar and Visored (ARANKARU, VAIZAADO, whatever XD). Plus, there's the stuff going on with Ichigo and his classmates, courtesy of the most recent chapters. Eh?


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NewGuyinTown
I watch the Anime... and there is no storyline. Atleast it doesn't make a lot of sense. Some parts are funny.

Never read the manga. I don't like reading mangas for some reason.
Garnet
Ah I've been keeping up with the manga too, but the last little bit has been boring me a bit. I'm not crazy about all the new guys but I'm still super happy Rukia's back. I love the chapter pages are still so artistic and cool-looking like magazine ads Very Happy
driftingfe3s
I read Bleach manga. Recently I'ts been getting a bit slow.. and the last battles were not that exciting. Hopefully we'll see some bad ass shit happen soon.
eku53ru
driftingfe3s wrote:
I read Bleach manga. Recently I'ts been getting a bit slow.. and the last battles were not that exciting. Hopefully we'll see some bad *** **** happen soon.

Heh, same here. Though it seems something interesting might happen soon; however, to me it seems like a (somewhat) repeat of Ichigo's battle with Zangetsu.
diddle
Ive read the manga, but I want the tv show to come to america!!! I dont want to learn another language just to understand people!!! D: makes me feel all sad inside.
Garnet
I heard a rumor it's being translated by FUNimation for Cartoon Network Sep.6/006. I'm really looking forward to it if that's true Very Happy

I would be really scared they'd butcher the voices though. Ichigo has a really good Japanese voice, Rukia too, and I can't picture a new English one.
ashen
I've read the mangascan but I havent see the anime. I've read about 20 volumes...
I hope the manga will be licensed in my country...
diddle
my brother's birthday is september 6th :O!!! Too bad school will have started again D:
Scaramanga
Garnet wrote:
I heard a rumor it's being translated by FUNimation for Cartoon Network Sep.6/006. I'm really looking forward to it if that's true Very Happy

I would be really scared they'd butcher the voices though. Ichigo has a really good Japanese voice, Rukia too, and I can't picture a new English one.

I think this is erroneous. It HAS been reported that Viz already has this (which would be far more likely than FUNI.) Also, I don't know where that Cartoon Network information comes from. There WAS an interview with the VP for acquisitions & co-productions over at Newsarama, in which she was quoted as saying:
Quote:
Bleach is great. The same people who do Naruto and Inu Yasha make it. It’s more of an Adult Swim show. It’s a bit more complex and slower, and it builds from one episode to the next.

This is NOT a confirmation that CN or AS have this property, just that it would probably go to AS if they DID. In fact right before this she was asked directly about any new anime properties coming, and her answer was essentially a 'no comment' and that Naruto is still the hottest thing out there.

Don't get me wrong, I'm SURE Bleach will make it out here soon, and I'm sure it'll be aired on TV (although probably NOT CN.) I just think this rampant rumour-mongering is ridiculous.
Urahara
If Bleach gets "english-lized" and airs here just like Naruto, it will fail.

English Naruto sucked so badly, none of my friends wanted to watch it. I'm hoping they'll do a better job on Bleach, but who knows. For me, anime isn't anime if it isn't in Japanese.
Scaramanga
Urahara wrote:
If Bleach gets "english-lized" and airs here just like Naruto, it will fail.

English Naruto sucked so badly, none of my friends wanted to watch it. I'm hoping they'll do a better job on Bleach, but who knows. For me, anime isn't anime if it isn't in Japanese.

Uhhh maybe you and your friends didn't like it. That doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular anime currently on Cartoon Network. Just like Inu-Yasha it really brings in the fans.

Also, I just heard; it's official, Viz DOES indeed, have Bleach.
No word on when/where it will air though (I seriously doubt it will air on CN.)
Garnet
Good old Anime News Network Very Happy

Thanks for the information! It occurs to me I pretty much just helped the rumor continue Confused
I'm curious though, why don't you think that CN will get it? They have an eye for the biggies - why not Bleach? I'm thinking they would try their hardest to get that one.
Scaramanga
Garnet wrote:
Good old Anime News Network Very Happy

Thanks for the information! It occurs to me I pretty much just helped the rumor continue Confused
I'm curious though, why don't you think that CN will get it? They have an eye for the biggies - why not Bleach? I'm thinking they would try their hardest to get that one.

Because one of their VPs in an interview already said she didnt' think it was CN material, but more likely to air on Adult Swim. Also if CN DID air it, it'd be in direct competition with their already #1 show, Naruto. They don't want to lose fans from that just yet. In fact that's the biggest reason why I don't think it'll be airing at all anytime soon. Give Naruto another 6 months or so and maybe then it'll air (which will probably be about right anyway, since they've got to dub Bleach anyway, which will take some time.) Also, the fact that Bleach is far more visceral and bloody than something like Naruto or InuYasha, pretty much guarantees that it won't air on Cartoon Network.
ddukki
Scaramanga wrote:
Urahara wrote:
If Bleach gets "english-lized" and airs here just like Naruto, it will fail.

English Naruto sucked so badly, none of my friends wanted to watch it. I'm hoping they'll do a better job on Bleach, but who knows. For me, anime isn't anime if it isn't in Japanese.

Uhhh maybe you and your friends didn't like it. That doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular anime currently on Cartoon Network. Just like Inu-Yasha it really brings in the fans.

Also, I just heard; it's official, Viz DOES indeed, have Bleach.
No word on when/where it will air though (I seriously doubt it will air on CN.)

I have to agree with Scaramanga on this one. The dubbing's just horrible. It sounds so monotonous that it seems like they recorded just one session and said "be done with it!" Sure it doesn't stop it from being great, but it sure does take away the feel.
lilrage
does anyone watch the anime? its really good rite now its at episode 73 they are subtitled u can find the on www.bleachportal.net it also contains info and stuff on the mangas
ddukki
I wanted to watch some of the episodes, but none of the sites I try to find don't have direct downloads for the first couple of episodes. The closest I found were at Ep. 60 something.
nakamaru
I've watched every single episode. Hopefully the series stays good unlike Naruto. I really love this anime. I wish there were more good animes but sadly there aren't.
Inner_Sakura
I saw Beach until the 53 episode. The begin is good... but when they go to seretei starts to be a ''cliche'' anime... like the series dragon ball, yuyu , etc =P
Scaramanga
Inner_Sakura wrote:
I saw Beach until the 53 episode. The begin is good... but when they go to seretei starts to be a ''cliche'' anime... like the series dragon ball, yuyu , etc =P

It's a shonen fighting anime, what did you expect? It follows the same formula as Naruto, YYH, DB, et al.
TonkPilz
tho i havent read the mange i followed the anime for a few Ep's but lost intrest cant say Y tho feelt like i seen it before but i know i havent...
lilrage
www.bleachportal.net has direct downloads from ep. 1-71 all u have 2 do is register then uses ur login to download when it asks
Scaramanga
lilrage wrote:
www.bleachportal.net has direct downloads from ep. 1-71 all u have 2 do is register then uses ur login to download when it asks

Will you people KNOCK it off! This show is licensed already and what you're doing is illegal. You'll have the anime soon enough.
Urahara
Everyone knows it's licensed. Take Naruto for example, no need to tell people what they already know, they probably won't care at all, take that screenshot of DB's "Naruto Licensed" for example.

Anyhow just watched the 46 minute special ep. 73, yes, it's called a "one hour special" but it's really not even 46 minutes cause of all the junk.

TWO HOUR SPECIAL coming up for anybody that has been missing Bleach. I'm just dying for all the action.
lilrage
i hate when they do a recap cuz ive seen it all if i wanted 2 watch it again i would
Scaramanga
Urahara wrote:
Everyone knows it's licensed. Take Naruto for example, no need to tell people what they already know, they probably won't care at all, take that screenshot of DB's "Naruto Licensed" for example.

And the same way that links to MP3s and warez are not allowed on this forum, why do you think anime is any different. Anime is a priveledge, NOT a right. Buy it and stop pirating it.
nakamaru
Scaramanga wrote:
lilrage wrote:
www.bleachportal.net has direct downloads from ep. 1-71 all u have 2 do is register then uses ur login to download when it asks

Will you people KNOCK it off! This show is licensed already and what you're doing is illegal. You'll have the anime soon enough.


All I can say is to Scaramanga is "what a douche bag".
Boles Roor
Scaramanga wrote:
Urahara wrote:
Everyone knows it's licensed. Take Naruto for example, no need to tell people what they already know, they probably won't care at all, take that screenshot of DB's "Naruto Licensed" for example.

And the same way that links to MP3s and warez are not allowed on this forum, why do you think anime is any different. Anime is a priveledge, NOT a right. Buy it and stop pirating it.

Sure if you like a nice thing get raped on TV. Also, the world isn't just the US. People outside the US might still want to watch the episodes.
Scaramanga
Boles Roor wrote:
Scaramanga wrote:
Urahara wrote:
Everyone knows it's licensed. Take Naruto for example, no need to tell people what they already know, they probably won't care at all, take that screenshot of DB's "Naruto Licensed" for example.

And the same way that links to MP3s and warez are not allowed on this forum, why do you think anime is any different. Anime is a priveledge, NOT a right. Buy it and stop pirating it.

Sure if you like a nice thing get raped on TV. Also, the world isn't just the US. People outside the US might still want to watch the episodes.

Uhhh and they sell anime DVDs outside the US too. zOMG! Also, I know for a FACT, that quite a few countries in Europe and South America have aired anime that we've never even seen in the US. And hey, if they don't have what you want in your country... IMPORT it.
lilrage
import export/download send they r just about the same thing except and bleach isnt newhere else its new and just started airing in japan so u can't get it any where else
Yazz
If it's licensed and going to air on TV, then just download it. Honestly, think about it this way:

It starts on TV Tokyo, so no one anywhere else can really watch it. We download it. Then it airs in North America as well. On a network. That many people will pay for anyways.

We aren't actually even _stealing_ anything. It's not like we're only subcribed to the Cartoon Network because of this one show, so we'll unsubcribe to it now that we can download the series. That's retarded thinking.

Not only that, but the subtitled version is a thousand times way better than the dubbed versions. The voices and the way the Japanese language is makes the series so much better. Would you rather hear corny lines like, "I Will Defeat You!" in English? I don't think so.

For those reasons, it's totally justified to download whatever episodes we want. As for the Manga, not everyone has access to those. And not everyone knows they have access to those in the first place. Downloading them isn't just a choice for fans, its a neccesity.

So yeah, stick your opressive-self-justified heads out of your ass to take a breather and realize that what we download literally doesn't harm anyone.

Except the manga... yeah, we don't have a very solid excuse for that...

Oh well ^^
glossee
i just read Bleach, and i guess its okay...
anyway im still reading the vol 1, im more into shoujo than shounen, just like most other girl Smile
Scaramanga
Yazz wrote:
It starts on TV Tokyo, so no one anywhere else can really watch it. We download it. Then it airs in North America as well. On a network. That many people will pay for anyways.

We aren't actually even _stealing_ anything. It's not like we're only subcribed to the Cartoon Network because of this one show, so we'll unsubcribe to it now that we can download the series. That's retarded thinking.

I'll tell you what's retarded thinking... thinking that you should be able to get something for nothing. Hey kids, those shows COST MONEY to make. So when you decide to download them for free you ARE STEALING, end of story. Also when you watch something on TV, those stations and broadcasters have to PAY for those shows too. Cartoon Network doesn't just get those shows for free you know. And how do they make money then?? Advertising, pure and simple. So again, when you download a show off the internets, you're not helping CN make any money, you're just a huge leech. And here's the part that really ticks me off. You're the people that are hurting the self-same industry you say you support. The less people buy anime DVDs and watch licensed anime on TV the less and less will be licensed and produced. Nearly 50% of anime produced in Japan these days is produced with funding from the West. Take that funding out and you have less shows made. And anime is the big industry the way music or Hollywood is, they can't afford the lost revenues as well as those other industries.

So kids, stop lying to yourselves. If you REALLY want to support anime and manga, BUY it. And if it's too expensive, you're not looking hard enough. There are plenty of places online that sell anime and manga for cut-rate discount prices.

Yazz wrote:
So yeah, stick your opressive-self-justified heads out of your *** to take a breather and realize that what we download literally doesn't harm anyone.

Oh yeah, really opressive. Boohoo, can't get your Japanese cartoons? Anime is a privledge, not a right, you bunch of whiners.
eku53ru
Bleach-wise, the fact that it airs on TV Tokyo doesn't matter; it airs in other cities as well, but TV Tokyo aided in its production, I think (probably wrong; if I am, feel free to correct). >.<;

I've friends in other parts of Japan that have been able to watch Bleach (and Naruto, for that matter, since that's a TV Tokyo series, too). If they can't find it on TV, they rent it. Simple as that. Most of the time they find it on a local channel, though. o_o;
lilrage
well bleach isn't on tv in the US so the only way we can watch it is 2 dl it and watching it subbed just makes me wanna c the dubbed on tv in the US even more so how is that not supporting anime or the channels that show it if it makes me wanna watch it on tv even more?
Tex_Arcana
I down load anime. I download a lot of anime, but I also buy a lot of anime. I download for three main reasons:

1. Not all anime shows will be licenced for the U.S.. If I want to watch something that is not likely to be aired on Cartoon Network, Adult Swim or Anime Network (I don't think a show like Shinigami No Ballad will make the cut, or Rozen Maiden) the only way to see it is through fansubs. I only keep fansub downloads on my harddrive (I don't burn them to cd or dvd) for a short time and then delete them. If they are licenced later and I liked them enough to watch again I buy them. Some of the titles I've bought after watching the fansubs include Please Teacher, FLCL, Excel Saga, Cowboy Bebop, and more (when I find them) and I don't mind paying retail since that supports the companies involved over say buying second hand. Examples of things I will buy when they are available are Bleach, Blood +, Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid, Ergo Proxy, and Honey and Clover. These are all shows I've watched on fansubs and liked them enough to keep watching over again. Some of these are already licenced. Some are sure to be licenced. One I'm not so sure of. At least I did get to see it.

2. Not all companies that licence anime will give you the pure unadulterated production (can you say Sailor Moon?). If they think that they can get away with gutting an anime to make it more acceptable for a certain audiance they will do it and have done it. Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon in japan is not a show for little girls. Sailor Moon in the U.S. is. If anyone is hurting anime it is the companies that edit the material to suit a certain audiance (can you imagine Midori No Hibi being about a boy and his hand puppet?).

3. Watching fansubs allows me to preview the material before I buy it. I learned the hard way that just because an anime has a large fan base that it doesn't mean I will enjoy it. Going on the numerous good reviews of Neon Genesis Evengelion I bought the box set and the movie. That was a huge waste of my money. A lot of people may like NGE but not me. It was fairly expensive to find that out.

Am I ruining the anime industry? Well, I'm not buying anime that I know I don't like any more, but to balance that out, I am actively looking for titles that I do like and confidently paying full price for those titles. The way I watch fansubs I see as no different then having a friend record a show for me to watch that I would otherwise miss. Please feel free to rant all you want but don't say that fansubs are ruining the anime industry. If all the shows were made available in a form that was not all hacked up and censored there would be no need for fansubs at all.

You are right that we need to support the anime industry but on the other hand the anime industry needs to support it's fans as well with better quality dubbing and subbing, less (or no) editing, and the ability to experiance more niche programs that may not be the "next big hit on Cartoon Network". I say quit your harping and down load some anime then delete it when your done watching it. I bet you will find some great shows you would never get to watch otherwise.
Scaramanga
Tex_Arcana wrote:
I down load anime. I download a lot of anime, but I also buy a lot of anime.

Tex, you seem to be under the impression that I think all fansubs are evil. I don't. I myself, download fansubs as well... of unlicensed shows. And like you, I BUY the shows on DVD that I liked. Yes, fansubs are a great way to preview shows that you might not otherwise know anything about. The problem is, not everyone does this. In fact, I would say that sadly, we are probably a minority. My initial issue is with people in these forums posting links to obviously illegal subs of shows that either already available (on air AND on DVD) or are already licensed and will soon be getting a release.

Tex_Arcana wrote:
Please feel free to rant all you want but don't say that fansubs are ruining the anime industry.

I never once said or implied this. I am simple saying that the people who would rather DL fansubs or buy bootlegs than support the actual releases are damaging the anime industry.

Tex_Arcana wrote:
You are right that we need to support the anime industry but on the other hand the anime industry needs to support it's fans as well with better quality dubbing and subbing, less (or no) editing, and the ability to experiance more niche programs that may not be the "next big hit on Cartoon Network".

Uhhh, this may come as a shock to some people but anime companies like ADV and Geneon are just that, COMPANIES. They are in this to make money, not to pander to minority fan interests. True, if a release is bad, then yes sales are usually poor, unless it's a VERY popular show. Also, I sincerely doubt niche market titles will sell well, so it's no wonder most companies don't even bother with these titles. Hell, I was surprised when Funi licensed Kiminozo.
Tex_Arcana
Yeah, your right, I did misunderstand about your feelings about fansubs. I'm truely sorry about that. Looking at the dates in which those links are posted you were correct in pointing out that the posters were wrong in putting them up. Those links also violate the TOS of this site as well. Bleach (both manga and anime) is licenced by Viz.

Yeah I realize that ADV (I live in Houston, the home of ADV) and such are companies in it for the prifit and are unlikely to spend cash on a license that won't sell. Just my way of pointing out that there is a lot of anime out there that are great shows that will never see a U.S. license.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Maybe I should wait until my second cup of coffee before posting next time. Embarassed
devinkye00
Bleach is a great anime ^_^ I started downloading the series at bleach portal but it totally stopped working :/ I think ichigo is such a good character and he is also very well designed ^_^
Yazz
Indeed. Awesomely awesome anime.
boysrule
Bleach is Licensed not long ago !! Too bad i couldn't finish all the episode.. guess i got to spend some money to buy them now Mad
siena
I love it.
While it does seem to have a ‘monster of the day’ type of format, it’s interesting to see Ichigo’s transformation from a somewhat normal high school student into a Death god.
It’s similar to Yu Yu Hakusho but the ‘humans fighting spirits’ theme works better here. The secondary characters are fairly typical (the cute girl, the tough girl, the tough untalkative guy, etc.) and that works well.
They can all survive a few scenes on their own but there is still a team feeling when they are together.
I’m looking forward to seeing more of the show, just to see how far they can take this before going too far.
sceptileex
bleach is not bad. Especially the manga part. Latest chapters are real good. Aizen sousuke and his arrancars, vaizards helping ichigo train up the hollow in him, its all etting really good. Well, i guess, anybody else really reads the manga? If not i guess its a spoiler huh Razz The latest ANIME episodes ( 70++? ) really suck. Fillers, as normal. I would recommend anyone not to watch them.
eku53ru
sceptileex wrote:
bleach is not bad. Especially the manga part. Latest chapters are real good. Aizen sousuke and his arrancars, vaizards helping ichigo train up the hollow in him, its all etting really good. Well, i guess, anybody else really reads the manga? If not i guess its a spoiler huh Razz The latest ANIME episodes ( 70++? ) really suck. Fillers, as normal. I would recommend anyone not to watch them.

I agree. Though the most recent chapters with the Visored (Vaizard, VAIZA-DO, VAIZAADO, whatever you'd like XD) aren't really surprising me. I'm starting to think that I should wait for the tankoubon to come out before I read 'em - Bleach is starting to seem easier to digest in compilations versus installments. >_<

As for the fillers, it seemed like another mini-arc to me; I've only watched the first episode of the filler arc, though.
icekachu
I was just wondering. Do you guys who has seen the manga get less interested in the anime version later on?

I refrain from reading the manga so that the anime can give me much more excitement and suspense as it build its own story. The bad thing is there are fill-in stories which deviate from the main story line. Haiz
lilrage
i compare reading a book and then watching the movie 2 reading the manga then watching the anime in my opinion it ruins everything and makes me mad when i c all the changes
eku53ru
icekachu wrote:
I was just wondering. Do you guys who has seen the manga get less interested in the anime version later on?

I refrain from reading the manga so that the anime can give me much more excitement and suspense as it build its own story. The bad thing is there are fill-in stories which deviate from the main story line. Haiz

I think it depends on the person, actually, and what their preferences are.

I read the Bleach manga first because that's all that was out for me when I got into the series. When I found out about the anime, I gave it a try and found myself not liking the series from the first episode. Don't get me wrong; I have loved anime adaptations of manga series before (and 'cause of that, I've watched series to their end), but Bleach just wasn't a title like that.

Another reason might be that I personally don't like Studio Pierrot, but hey - that's just me. :3
sugarbox
Cool i read Bleach magna and i download some animation from bit.

Rolling Eyes
ddukki
::SPOILER BEWARE::

The series drops off the main Manga plotline after the Soul Society incidents and kind of parallels the two. I don't really mind the change but I think they should have made it a bit smoother. Like make the manga branch after the new Anime branch.

What do you guys think?
bluefossil
Is it me or is Bleach storyline is getting lame and flat. I find it boring.
Scaramanga
lilrage wrote:
i compare reading a book and then watching the movie 2 reading the manga then watching the anime in my opinion it ruins everything and makes me mad when i c all the changes

The problem is comparing the two. Like you said, when a film is made from a book, there are often quite a few changes. It best to treat them both as totally seperate entities and not try to reconcile one with the other. A movie adaptation of a book can still be a good movie, even if it's not 100% true to the original source material. Same goes with manga and anime. I think the Bleach manga and anime are both good in their own right. However, that being said, you have to understand that just about every anime made from an ongoing manga series is likely to have filler episodes, just so it doesn't pass the manga by (and end up with a crappy ending like the first Hellsing series.)
obsessed
I only watch the anime and I think it's really good actually. Good animation, good storyline. Too bad they are stuck with fillers now though. Hope they don't follow Naruto's crappy example of 50 fillers in a row.
aussiemars
Scaramanga wrote:
Yazz wrote:
It starts on TV Tokyo, so no one anywhere else can really watch it. We download it. Then it airs in North America as well. On a network. That many people will pay for anyways.

We aren't actually even _stealing_ anything. It's not like we're only subcribed to the Cartoon Network because of this one show, so we'll unsubcribe to it now that we can download the series. That's retarded thinking.

I'll tell you what's retarded thinking... thinking that you should be able to get something for nothing. Hey kids, those shows COST MONEY to make. So when you decide to download them for free you ARE STEALING, end of story. Also when you watch something on TV, those stations and broadcasters have to PAY for those shows too. Cartoon Network doesn't just get those shows for free you know. And how do they make money then?? Advertising, pure and simple. So again, when you download a show off the internets, you're not helping CN make any money, you're just a huge leech. And here's the part that really ticks me off. You're the people that are hurting the self-same industry you say you support. The less people buy anime DVDs and watch licensed anime on TV the less and less will be licensed and produced. Nearly 50% of anime produced in Japan these days is produced with funding from the West. Take that funding out and you have less shows made. And anime is the big industry the way music or Hollywood is, they can't afford the lost revenues as well as those other industries.

So kids, stop lying to yourselves. If you REALLY want to support anime and manga, BUY it. And if it's too expensive, you're not looking hard enough. There are plenty of places online that sell anime and manga for cut-rate discount prices.

Yazz wrote:
So yeah, stick your opressive-self-justified heads out of your *** to take a breather and realize that what we download literally doesn't harm anyone.

Oh yeah, really opressive. Boohoo, can't get your Japanese cartoons? Anime is a privledge, not a right, you bunch of whiners.


Dude, what are you smoking. You make it seem like the West has bought out the anime industry. LOL. I know that some of the companies that own the series in Japan are one in the same as some of the companies in the US. Even so, the industry is HUGE. No way is 50% completely funded by the West companies, it might be funded by Japanese companies that have Western branches, but thats different. By the way, how do you think a Western company gauges whether to buy and translate an anime/manga??? It's the fanbase!!! Why else would they have released Naruto (best example) all those years after it came out, if not because of its amazing fanbase? It is also my understanding that some of the companies in in Japan don't mind subbing until it gets liscensed in the US and the US counterparts sue. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Next on the agenda, Not everyone who downloads anime is able to buy it. Some people i know live in countries that don't sell anime (yes, they still exist), and personally i cant buy the stuff over the internet (as I'm sure many other people can't), Think about it, not everyone has it like you Americans, or even like us Australians. Now here is my most heart felt point. Nowadays some companies liscense the anime early in the series, the earliest i remember was a few months after it came out, though other great animes don't get liscensed for years if they get liscensed at all, can you wait ten years? I can't! I could rave on for hours, but i still have stuff to do. So until next time.

By the way, don't get me started on manga!
ddukki
obsessed wrote:
I only watch the anime and I think it's really good actually. Good animation, good storyline. Too bad they are stuck with fillers now though. Hope they don't follow Naruto's crappy example of 50 fillers in a row.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. The storyline fillers are getting a little off track and I don't think that it's going to be easy to get back to the manga plot if they ever are going to.
romsman
i really like bleach, i've watched the eps up untill the current episode 78 and i've read the mangas untill chapter 80.
I don't think they should be translated, as with most translated animes, i fear bleach will suffer from poor voice acting.
Dragate
Yea bleach was funny... Key word "was"... It used to be so funny especially the first few episodes... *sigh* it's either I'm changeing and loosing my sense of humour, but personally, I don't think it's that funny anymore... The later episode fighting also get's really crazy where everyone is just like teleporting and fighting like DBZ... just my opinion...
Scaramanga
aussiemars wrote:
Dude, what are you smoking. You make it seem like the West has bought out the anime industry. LOL. I know that some of the companies that own the series in Japan are one in the same as some of the companies in the US. Even so, the industry is HUGE. No way is 50% completely funded by the West companies, it might be funded by Japanese companies that have Western branches, but thats different. By the way, how do you think a Western company gauges whether to buy and translate an anime/manga??? It's the fanbase!!! Why else would they have released Naruto (best example) all those years after it came out, if not because of its amazing fanbase? It is also my understanding that some of the companies in in Japan don't mind subbing until it gets liscensed in the US and the US counterparts sue. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Did you even read any of my posts? I don't have a problem with dl'ing fansubs of shows that are UNlicensed. Bleach, hoever, is NOT one of those shows. Also, you should really start paying attention to the credits of recent anime; if it says Geneon USA or Bandai Visual (and I think recently even ADV has got in on the act) these shows have received production funding from the US divisions of these companies. And even if a US company isn't in the credits, that doesn't mean they haven't already received licensing funds. Take last year for example, Geneon USA PRE-licensed the following big-ticket shows: Hellsing OVAs, Fate/Stay Night, Ergo Proxy and Shakugan no Shana. These shows had already had ALL the licensing paid for by Geneon USA before they even aired in Japan. But say a show isn't prelicensed, anime is an expensive business, and without the ridiculous sums of money some US licensors pay (especially for popular shows like Bleach and Naruto,) I doubt a good number of Japanese animation studios would be able to stay afloat in Japan's current economic climate.

aussiemars wrote:
Next on the agenda, Not everyone who downloads anime is able to buy it. Some people i know live in countries that don't sell anime (yes, they still exist), and personally i cant buy the stuff over the internet (as I'm sure many other people can't.)

I respect that some people just don't get anime in their country of origin. However, as I previously stated, anime isn't some inalienable human right, it's damn entertainment, it's a privledge, it's a LUXURY. Also, what's preventing people from purchasing things over the internet? Heck, even in China, which has one of the most oppressive internet censoring regime, people can still purchase anime. And if it's lack of a credit card or money, well that's not MY fault, nor is it the fault of the anime companies. If you WANT anime so much you could find a way to pay for it.

aussiemars wrote:
Think about it, not everyone has it like you Americans, or even like us Australians. Now here is my most heart felt point. Nowadays some companies liscense the anime early in the series, the earliest i remember was a few months after it came out, though other great animes don't get liscensed for years if they get liscensed at all, can you wait ten years? I can't! I could rave on for hours, but i still have stuff to do. So until next time.

Like I said, this ties back to my point that I think it's acceptable to watch unlicensed shows on fansub.
StabWound
Bleach oh boy thats a great manga and anime ive seen almost every episode/movie and currently have the mangas 1-12 in english (all that i belive is out in america) and its for sure one of my favorites.
sceptileex
Dude get real,you can talk all you like. Chances are, noone cares. We download the anime. So? Hate youtube and google video if you want. Those people who cant download them use those to watch. Waddaya gonna do? sue them? As for those who really download, them, its nothing wrong. Like it or not, THE ANIME DOWNLOADERS are the biggest source of income makers in a way. Look. Why the hell would a anime air in your town if noone watches it and noone even heard of it? Read the newspapers. Whenever they introduce a new anime to a new town, it will because there is a fanbase over there, who will then introduce it to their frinnds. Like it or not, we are indirectly helping them advertise. What do you think, they will introduce a anime to a pace where we didnt even hear of it before? Remember, its not just some small fry anime. Its bleach. Bleach has a huge anime fanbase in Japan. The licensing cousts are gonna be gargantuan. They gonna send it over here because noone heard of it? Fat hope. Ya wanna bet at most 1 out of every 10 people in the "anime fanbase" dosent have a freaking channel that they suscribe from japan. Its a openly known truth. We might not be completely legal, but those licensers know better than to stop us. Sure, they might be trying to cut down on us now. But like it or not, how sucessful their buisness is, it was partly our work. Call it innnocent thinking. Its the truth. In a way.

But anyway, the way the fillers are going on.... this wasnt a great time for the license Razz
Scaramanga
But what do you NOT understand about not watching a show once it's licensed? This isn't rocket science we're talking about here. And I've got news for you it ain't just the fansubbers who make shows like Naruto popular, they just make it accessible. I can walk in to just about any bookstore and pick up no less than four or five magazines that cover anime. I think it's this entitlement attitude that your generation seems to have towards things like this that really tick me off. Like I said, anime is NOT a priviledge or a right, it's a luxury item that is made by people who have to feed their families. If you want anime to continue, SUPPORT it (and no, watching fansubs does next to nothing to putting money in the production companies pockets.)

But hey, I'm willing to wait until the anime bubble bursts and downloading becomes so prevalent it's not as profitable a business anymore. Then I guess I'll be able to hear you ADD-addled kids whine "Wah, I can't get my Japanese cartoons anymore!" before you movie on to the next pop-culture phenomenon.
Lord Kuat
Initially I liked the series, but after a while it sorta loses its luster. It becomes the generic "hey look, I'm gonna reach power level XX to beat you!". Originally I enjoyed it for its quirkiness and the like, but it's becoming bland fare rather fast.

Meh, but I still have other manga to tide me over. I do hope it loses this pattern of upward spiraling power. Initially it was justified; now they can stop with the OMG new moves.
ddukki
Lord Kuat wrote:
Initially I liked the series, but after a while it sorta loses its luster. It becomes the generic "hey look, I'm gonna reach power level XX to beat you!". Originally I enjoyed it for its quirkiness and the like, but it's becoming bland fare rather fast.
I couldn't have said it better myself. It's getting very cliche and the storyline with vampires is getting kind of overused.
lilrage
yup Lord Kuat i couldnt have said it better myself
alexcheng
I would never EVER EVVVVEEEEEER watch anime on TV. I simply don't have the time (or it doesn't air where I live).

I would also NEVER EVER buy anime DVD box sets or whatever unless it has a huge sentimental value, which means I would've had to have watched it first.

And this isn't because the internet provides free downloads, it's because I've just never done it.

However, what I AM inclined to do is buy a lot of anime paraphrenelia such as gundam models, posters, toys etc. etc.

In fact, I was in Japan 3-4 months ago, and if I hadn't watched bleach through fansubs, I wouldn't have bought the immense amount of crap that I did.

I am willing to guess there are others like me out there.

I'm not saying it's morally correct for me to download fansubs, nor is it justified by me buying a buncha crap from the anime...

But there's just people out there that wouldn't give anime the time of the day if it weren't for free.
Inestical
hehe yay! Bleach is y no.1 anime + manga currently.

It sucks tho that the fillers are on now. I'm waiting still the arrangar and small kiddie taichou to get to the real world.

hmm.. the latest ep:

Keigo got pwned + some heroic words. and the ichigoHollow showed up! I was waiting to see him again, it made my day :p
rayx
I really like this anime for me it is more better than naruto. Death God rulez.
Boles Roor
Just to come back on the downloading issue, I download fansubs because of the originality, and usually better translated. Also listening to the US voicedubbing, it sounds bad, cheesy, and total crap. Most of the time just ruins the whole show.

Scaramanga: The "anime bubble" won't burst, if it will, just in the US. In Japan they won't notice, and they'll continue making anime. Fansubbers will keep subbing anime too, so we'll be able to watch our shows anyways.
grimscythe
I've read all bleach and i've seen the entire anime , i'll give my opinion of a post , i'm sure they won't air bleach on Cartoon Network because of al the blood and cruel scenes , and CN does get watched mostly by kids -12
yet i don't mind watching the subbed episodes of bleach , here is a link to all subbes anime of bleach , it's lower quality than downloaded versions , but at least it's streamed , you can find them all @ www.youtube.com along with almost every anime in excistence Very Happy
willywonka
Ohh yeah lets name something a more stupid name than bleach.. lets try letuce.. yeah that sounds liek a great name.. who the heck comes up with these names i mean COME ON PEOPLE!
Scaramanga
willywonka wrote:
Ohh yeah lets name something a more stupid name than bleach.. lets try letuce.. yeah that sounds liek a great name.. who the heck comes up with these names i mean COME ON PEOPLE!

Uhhh, have you even SEEN the show? The main character has blonde hair that in the beginning people say MUST be bleached. Also, some people have speculated the cleansing of Hollows that shinigami do is akin to bleaching their souls, so in that respect the name applies as well.
sceptileex
Scaramanga wrote:
willywonka wrote:
Ohh yeah lets name something a more stupid name than bleach.. lets try letuce.. yeah that sounds liek a great name.. who the heck comes up with these names i mean COME ON PEOPLE!

Uhhh, have you even SEEN the show? The main character has blonde hair that in the beginning people say MUST be bleached. Also, some people have speculated the cleansing of Hollows that shinigami do is akin to bleaching their souls, so in that respect the name applies as well.


not exactly >.> the name of the show was pretty much shown in ichirin no hana, it is the process of hollowfication. I still stand my point that fansubs help the industry more than it harms it, especaially for those who are not in japan. You say you can walk into any bookstore and see it, wulod you randoly pick up a book and read it? Whats worse, some bookstores dont even let youu read it Razz
ddukki
I like the title Bleach. It's simple, original, and random. Like any good idea, am I wrong? I miss having a regular internet connection and reading these animes. It irks me when I have to wait up to a week to even get a whimsical chance.
diddle
BLEACH IS GONA BE ON CARTOON NETWORK. Its going to be awsome. Ive heard great things about this anime and i cant wait to see it. Hopefully they didnt ruin it like One piece, but i dont want it to be retarded. Blood and cursing is all i want. hahaha its gona be sweet.
Boles Roor
BLEACH IS GONA BE ON CARTOON NETWORK. It's going to be crap. I've heared great things about this anime but Cartoon Network will probably rape it with crappy dubbings.

And if cursing and blood is all you care about, don't watch Bleach. Please, go watch anime for retards.
ultras0ound
Bleach is a nice anime and i just cant stop watching! Anyone like this anime as i do?
ItsWesley
Yeah bleach is great! I stopped watching it though when it was licensed but what I saw was great. Kon and Don Kanonji were my favourite characters as they are so funny!
Revvion
its nice especially the special bount story withs isnt in the manga, aldo i like the manga more.
scryoko
Yes, I agree. I love Bleach as well. Though I had first started reading the manga before the anime came out and... to be honest actually, I think the manga is better. Perhaps it was due to having already read the manga and getting used to it (or maybe I'm superficial in this aspect that I think the characters are drawn more better in the manga than in the anime... *cough*) but yeah, like mentioned, I like the manga better. Though, okay, superficiality aside, take how Rukia is drawn, for instance. I love how she's drawn in the manga better because they when you look at her, you can see that Rukia has lived for centuries and has seen the ugliness of life. You can see how much more wise she is. And in the anime, I don't really see that (as much). They drew her looking a bit more innocent and childish and Rukia, if anything, is not innocent and naive.

Though, admittedly, there are good things about the anime as well. The theme songs for instance. I do like some, though, God forbid, I can't dredge of their song titles right now. One is the first ending theme and the other is... er, the opening theme of the Soul Society Arc (hm... if there happens to be two or more of them... eep! I blame myself for not paying enough attention to them... *cough*). Okay, so granted, I didn't watch much of the anime. That isn't a very good argument then. *laugh* Yup, back to the superficiality thing. *grin*

-- scryoko
zirkov
mmhh you mean bleach anime different from their manga version ?. I dont know that, anyway bleach are cool anime. I always match anime episode (last ep 87). But I'm going bored when Ichigo fight baunto, he like dumbass. I hope Ichigo can have his bankai again.
Reiji
Have you watched this excellent animation?

With now 89 episodes and 237 manga chapters, it seems it will be here to stay.

So, let´s talk about it!
QrafTee
To be honest, I like the Bleach fillers a whole lot more than Naruto fillers. This proves I like quality more than quantity, but I must admit that some Naruto fillers are a little on par and some provides me enough humorous amusement for me to keep watching those. The bounto? Yey! I just hope they don't do anything that will stray too far from the manga to continue its true course in the anime.
Reiji wrote:
Have you watched this excellent animation?

With now 89 episodes and 237 manga chapters, it seems it will be here to stay.

So, let´s talk about it!
Taitu
QrafTee wrote:
To be honest, I like the Bleach fillers a whole lot more than Naruto fillers. This proves I like quality more than quantity, but I must admit that some Naruto fillers are a little on par and some provides me enough humorous amusement for me to keep watching those. The bounto? Yey! I just hope they don't do anything that will stray too far from the manga to continue its true course in the anime.
Reiji wrote:
Have you watched this excellent animation?

With now 89 episodes and 237 manga chapters, it seems it will be here to stay.

So, let´s talk about it!


Heh, I really must say, I actually ENJOY the Bleach fillers, which I cannot really say for the Naruto ones. The only Naruto fillers I like are the humorous ones. All the serious ones are just very cliched and boring. It feels like the same thing is going on over and over again:

Tsunade give Naruto and what seems like certain set teams of the following:
Team Gai
Kiba and Hinata
Shino
Naruto and one of these set teams go out on the mission.
Some random female shows up, usually this female originally posed as a guy.
Naruto uses Rasengan and saves the day.

I cannot stand it anymore, it is getting way too repetitive for my tastes.

As for the Bleach filler though, it actually all ties in together, and is a really good story. I actually can say that I cannot wait to find out what happens next in the Bleach filler, whereas with the Naruto one, I just cannot wait for it to end!
Reiji
Taitu wrote:
Heh, I really must say, I actually ENJOY the Bleach fillers, which I cannot really say for the Naruto ones. The only Naruto fillers I like are the humorous ones. All the serious ones are just very cliched and boring. It feels like the same thing is going on over and over again:

Tsunade give Naruto and what seems like certain set teams of the following:
Team Gai
Kiba and Hinata
Shino
Naruto and one of these set teams go out on the mission.
Some random female shows up, usually this female originally posed as a guy.
Naruto uses Rasengan and saves the day.

I cannot stand it anymore, it is getting way too repetitive for my tastes.

As for the Bleach filler though, it actually all ties in together, and is a really good story. I actually can say that I cannot wait to find out what happens next in the Bleach filler, whereas with the Naruto one, I just cannot wait for it to end!


I agree totally with you. The Bleach fillers doesn´t look like fillers, even now with some fukutaichôs in the real world, its a very good story indeed.
d4rch
I'm not a fan of mangas but one day I looked the beginning of Bleach.
I think it's one of the best manga (with DBZ Razz). However the last season with the Bounto (or Bound) it's less good than the part in the Soul Society.

When Ichigo fight against Kuchiki and say : "Bankai" for the first time. Really great !!!
carlokes
Humm....although this anime is fantastic, great action, great comedy, it is starting to fall on the "neverending anime", like Naruto. More and more nowadays is fashion to make animes huge like hell...

I hope it doesnt get much bigger or we will start watching a new version of Dragon Ball.
jenus
Yes the fillers from Bleach are better then the fillers from naruto even that im a big fan of naruto, but anyway bleach is a good anime/manga to watch/read...
driftingfe3s
Well, for now the fillers may seem good, but just wait till they start running out of ideas just like Naruto.
Reiji
driftingfe3s wrote:
Well, for now the fillers may seem good, but just wait till they start running out of ideas just like Naruto.


Hello,

I doubt that will happen because this fillers have something Naruto don´t...this fillers have a story!

Naruto fillers are just that, fillers...and bleach fillers are another saga to the story.
bunnyRO
bleach is cool..filler is better compared to naruto's but I won't say it's terrific..I prefer the real story where ichigo finds more about his bankai and hollow self stuff...
naruto is just sad...escort,save someone,get beaten up..escort..did I just say escort?..yea..lots of it(filler)
QrafTee
Umm you forgot people trying to sneak into Konoha in disguises. The only difference is that some disguises are good while others are... plain dumb. They've done that... what three, four times now?
bunnyRO wrote:
bleach is cool..filler is better compared to naruto's but I won't say it's terrific..I prefer the real story where ichigo finds more about his bankai and hollow self stuff...
naruto is just sad...escort,save someone,get beaten up..escort..did I just say escort?..yea..lots of it(filler)
Hojo
ive only recently started watching bleach and am on episode 15 right now. i havnt read the manga before, and i couldnt really tell if an episode was a filler or not, so they did a good job including fillers into the story. i have never watched naruto yet or read the manga so i cant really compare it to that.
vesves
anyone wanna make a vote?

i vote bleach because its storyline much more better then naruto...

and the super power is amaizing when they fight...i remember in the story,,,ichigo non stop training after few days and go soul society beat all the captain with no mercy...cool watching but naruto...its boring...
Boles Roor
Hojo wrote:
ive only recently started watching bleach and am on episode 15 right now. i havnt read the manga before, and i couldnt really tell if an episode was a filler or not, so they did a good job including fillers into the story. i have never watched naruto yet or read the manga so i cant really compare it to that.


I think the fillers everyone is talking about start around episode 65 or so. There are some fillers in the previous arcs, but you'll notice those. Wink
Kurosaki_Ichigo-San
Reiji wrote:
Have you watched this excellent animation?

With now 89 episodes and 237 manga chapters, it seems it will be here to stay.

So, let´s talk about it!


Well i'm only up to episodes 79 with bleach. I've been slackin' off and been too lazy to download once a week. As for Naruto, The fillers have been going for way too long now. It's getting boring and they need to go to the 3 year leap already. >_<
QrafTee
To be honest I like the Naruto main storyline better because of the reasons you don't like Naruto and like Bleach. After the whole Dragonball Z thing I don't like it when main characters get too powerful too fast because that defeats the purpose of "superpowers" and end in enemies reaching a new "superpower" status and it becomes repetitive. That and the Naruto storyline is much deeper if you look at it while Bleach is very one-dimensional though some things in the new manga changes that a little. Then again that makes me dislike it a little more, it seems like it's forced... that and I think Uyruu makes a better better couple with Inoue than Ichigo with Inoue, he seems more fit to be with Rukia... my opinion anyway.
vesves wrote:
anyone wanna make a vote?

i vote bleach because its storyline much more better then naruto...

and the super power is amaizing when they fight...i remember in the story,,,ichigo non stop training after few days and go soul society beat all the captain with no mercy...cool watching but naruto...its boring...
Scaramanga
carlokes wrote:
More and more nowadays is fashion to make animes huge like hell...

Where have YOU been? Can you say Rumiko Takahashi? I'd say actually shows like Bleach and Naruto are the rare exception, and that most shows are getting shorter. that and there is a preponderance of OVAs these days as well, that you just didn't see like 10+ years ago.

QrafTee wrote:
To be honest I like the Naruto main storyline better because of the reasons you don't like Naruto and like Bleach. After the whole Dragonball Z thing I don't like it when main characters get too powerful too fast because that defeats the purpose of "superpowers" and end in enemies reaching a new "superpower" status and it becomes repetitive. That and the Naruto storyline is much deeper if you look at it while Bleach is very one-dimensional though some things in the new manga changes that a little. Then again that makes me dislike it a little more, it seems like it's forced... that and I think Uyruu makes a better better couple with Inoue than Ichigo with Inoue, he seems more fit to be with Rukia... my opinion anyway.

Uhhh, they're BOTH pretty one-dimensional, and VERY stereo-typical shonen shows. Now, that being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying both of these shows, but fooling yourself into thinking either of them is something deeping is just silly.
QrafTee
Scaramanga wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
To be honest I like the Naruto main storyline better because of the reasons you don't like Naruto and like Bleach. After the whole Dragonball Z thing I don't like it when main characters get too powerful too fast because that defeats the purpose of "superpowers" and end in enemies reaching a new "superpower" status and it becomes repetitive. That and the Naruto storyline is much deeper if you look at it while Bleach is very one-dimensional though some things in the new manga changes that a little. Then again that makes me dislike it a little more, it seems like it's forced... that and I think Uyruu makes a better better couple with Inoue than Ichigo with Inoue, he seems more fit to be with Rukia... my opinion anyway.

Uhhh, they're BOTH pretty one-dimensional, and VERY stereo-typical shonen shows. Now, that being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying both of these shows, but fooling yourself into thinking either of them is something deeping is just silly.


Hey man, when Sandaime fought so hard and died trying his best against Orochimaru and when the funeral was given to all those who died defending Konoha, I felt something deep in here *points to heart*. It was very touching and deep. Then again I'm only making an anime comparison to what I have already seen which is not all the anime ever created.
xframe
I just watched episode 49 of bleach where Rukia tells about her dream the night before her execution and was excited to watch 50 which was the last one i had dl'd but when i opened the file it was a filler episode. Man was I pissed off.
Seithex
Bleach is a great Manga, but I can't say anything about the anime. The fillers no matter how superior they are to Naruto fillers are just annoying. I have given up on the fillers for Naruto and sometimes watch Bleach's. The Manga is a good place to be though. It's starting to get good, you manga readers know what I'm talking about. I only hope Kubo has some more surprises for the future of Bleach and what will happen after this point in the Manga.
tyrant
I like Bleach and Naurto, simply because the anime has good char development, which many other good anime lack. Eg, one piece , Prince of tennis, are also excellent animes that have been going on for some time. (POT has ended though ), i dislike short-lived animes especially those which had the potential to go further then the typical b-rated 1s. I really liked samurai deeper kyo, sadly it was rush job and nothing good came out of it in the end.
Kurosaki-Ichigo
BLeach is one of my favourite Animes. Besides Naruto i think Bleach is the best anime formed in Japan. Theyve mixed Humor, Action and Drama (Like Naruto) In one Anime. There is a thing that is different in Bleach and Naruto which i dont know what but its definetly something that tells me that Naruto is better. Bleach is on its 90 second episode and will be airing in the USA in september. I hope they have good voice actors because when Naruto was Dubbed the voices had become like Dragon Ball Z and were too childish. Hope it comes out soon.
Ratman2050
Ohhhh SO thats what Bleach is. I get it now lol, personally anime sucks. DBZ is ok though I dont know if its anime though.
Reiji
Ratman2050 wrote:
Ohhhh SO thats what Bleach is. I get it now lol, personally anime sucks. DBZ is ok though I dont know if its anime though.


Yes DBZ is anime.
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Bleach 93 out today. Who else is excited???? should be a good ep.
INeedHelp
I am a little behind in Bleach. I had to stop watching due to a heavy college workload. I am still getting them every week though. I also need to get back into Naruto!
shizoo
this manga was licensed that's why it is not scanlate online anymore.
Here's the link for the download of that manga:
http://downloadanime.org

For the anime. The producer was thinking of another new movie for it.. I'm waiting for it :dreaming:
tyrant
-_- i think they're are draggin the bounto issue abit too long.. i'm waiting for ichigo's dad!!
panacuba
at least bleach fillers have fighting...naruto ones suks
Reiji
tyrant wrote:
-_- i think they're are draggin the bounto issue abit too long.. i'm waiting for ichigo's dad!!


Yeah, I haven´t heard from him since that Grand Fisher fight.
Icchy
Reiji wrote:
tyrant wrote:
-_- i think they're are draggin the bounto issue abit too long.. i'm waiting for ichigo's dad!!


Yeah, I haven´t heard from him since that Grand Fisher fight.


Yeah well, it would be nice if they stopped the Bleach fillers now, but unfornatly, that isn't possible at the moment.

Fillers are the storylines that keep the anime way behind the Manga, so theres not so much pressure of the animation company to make the episodes constantly.
sky305
Bleach is the best anime i had ever watch.
Its a best action,comedy,superpower,anime i had ever watch.
Best storyline,best fighting style,their characters are kinda CooL,
well the 1st or 2nd OP/ED song are quite nice song,1st OP,Asterisk.
However,the anime's version episodes are still unknown,i guess its still have a long way to go.
I hope Kurosaki Ichigo can handle it!! Twisted Evil
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This week's episode (94) was boring absolutly nothing happend...and of course it ends right before Kariya and Byakuya start their battle. Evil or Very Mad
ajcabando
im a big fan of bleach.. cant wait to see the fight
belaneus
wer can we get the complete or at least the latest episodes of bleach?
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belaneus wrote:
wer can we get the complete or at least the latest episodes of bleach?


bleach7 dot com
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wow that adult swim promo for bleach sucked. dub sounded weird.
QrafTee
Icchy wrote:
Yeah well, it would be nice if they stopped the Bleach fillers now, but unfornatly, that isn't possible at the moment.

Fillers are the storylines that keep the anime way behind the Manga, so theres not so much pressure of the animation company to make the episodes constantly.

I personally think that the part where Ishida interfered was when it was supposed to end, but there was probably some problems getting into the next part of the manga (like Naruto) or they were asked to give the manga a little more time to gain a good lead, so instead of beating down all the Bounto, the gate was opened and viola, just hope it doesn't turn into seasons of fillers.
Boles Roor
It wasn't supposed to end when Ishida came and let them into Soul Society.

Remember when Kariya guy said he needed a Quincy? That was because he needed him to actually open the gate. But because Ishida lost his powers he couldn't open it. When Mayuri heared there were Bounto's, he wanted to get some live specimen, but was too lazy to get them, so he said he'd just get them to Soul Society. That's why he gave that bracelet thinger to Ishida, to regain his powers temporarily, so he could open the gate.
QrafTee
Boles Roor wrote:
It wasn't supposed to end when Ishida came and let them into Soul Society.

Remember when Kariya guy said he needed a Quincy? That was because he needed him to actually open the gate. But because Ishida lost his powers he couldn't open it. When Mayuri heared there were Bounto's, he wanted to get some live specimen, but was too lazy to get them, so he said he'd just get them to Soul Society. That's why he gave that bracelet thinger to Ishida, to regain his powers temporarily, so he could open the gate.

What I'm saying is that his powers were probably supposed to be used to whoop on the Bounto since it makes no sense to let a creature which can basically absorb all souls to be allowed to entered a place called Soul Society. Obviously they'll make a reason up later, but I'm pretty sure the opened gate really made just an extension. Yeah, yeah, Zaraki, right? Well he can use the SS gate to go there easily to fight with the traitor Shinigami.
Boles Roor
Zaraki doesn't care about Ichinose.

And I doubt Ishida was supposed to whoop the bounto. If he was, then it'd be a shame of actually starting a story in the fillers, they could've made lame fillers like Naruto, as killing the bounts at that stage would just hurt the series.
QrafTee
Boles Roor wrote:
Zaraki doesn't care about Ichinose.

And I doubt Ishida was supposed to whoop the bounto. If he was, then it'd be a shame of actually starting a story in the fillers, they could've made lame fillers like Naruto, as killing the bounts at that stage would just hurt the series.

You're incorrect as it would have ended the fillers and gotten to the ACTUAL STORYLINE which BTW is MUCH GREATER than the fillers. That you should already know. The difference between the Naruto fillers and the Bleach ones if that Naruto fillers go up to a consecutive 5 or so episodes while Bleach has just stuck to one. Any time it ends, though it was a good filler would be a relief to me and many others. Besides, I like Ishida and watching him whoop all the Bounto would've made my day since the Bleach manga revealed something that might devastate little Uryuu.
Boles Roor
I KNOW that the actual storyline is much better. No doubt about that. But for fillers it's pretty good. There's just no way the fillers could've ended with Ishida killing the bounto at that part. If he did it would mean there would be another range of fillers in like half a year, because we caught up with the manga.. I don't really mind the fillers either, as they're not bad actually.
Reiji
Boles Roor wrote:
I KNOW that the actual storyline is much better. No doubt about that. But for fillers it's pretty good. There's just no way the fillers could've ended with Ishida killing the bounto at that part. If he did it would mean there would be another range of fillers in like half a year, because we caught up with the manga.. I don't really mind the fillers either, as they're not bad actually.


IMO, they HAVE to go to the soul society, because that way they caould catch up with the manga, as the manga starts from where they return to the earth from soul society, so thats what I think.

Anyway, after reading the manga, I know that Ichinose Maki can´t return to the Gotei 13 as he doesn´t appear in the manga, so I think he will die for Kariya Jin.
Traveller
This is now the OFFICIAL, "sticky" Bleach topic. Some of the previous threads have been merged into this one, while others (less active or less recent) have been closed.

From now on, please do not open any new threads about Bleach, but continue your discussions here.

Thank you.
QrafTee
Reiji wrote: