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Joe Paterno fired





Blaster
If you don't know who Joe Paterno is chances are you arn't into college football at all. Joe Pa, as he is called, was the head coach for the Penn State Nittany Lions since the 60's. He has the most wins in college football (409) and also is tied for most college games coached (526)

Joe Pa was fired recently after a child abuse scandal let out. To read more info see

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/joe-paterno-fired-reacts-students-lawn_n_1085342.html

So what do people think about this. Please search more into the whole thing before posting. Thanks
standready
He got exactly what he deserved. When anyone hears about a child being abused, they should immediately contact the police not blow it off or let the university 'handle' the investigation. The university is, of course, going to bury anything that might blemish their name.
Ghost Rider103
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deanhills
I don't believe Paterno. It just seems inconceivable that this could have been going on for 15 years without at least some of it coming out over and above the incident that had been reported. I'm almost certain he has been protecting Sandusky (Paterno being probably a very nice guy and as a result loved by all) and minimizing what happened, hoping it will all blow away.

Isn't this guy a bit old anyway to be the coach - 84 years? Wow! Sad that his career had to end this way, but looks as though he has at at least 61 really good years with students who really love him. Not his fault, but maybe there was more he could have done, and I think he knows it.
Blaster
standready wrote:
He got exactly what he deserved. When anyone hears about a child being abused, they should immediately contact the police not blow it off or let the university 'handle' the investigation. The university is, of course, going to bury anything that might blemish their name.

Have you read the grand jury report?

He did alert people. The Graduate Assistant that told him this info is still a coach for the football team. He didn't get fired. He asked his dad what he should do AFTER he caught Sandusky in the locker room red handed. Then Paterno went to his hire ups (still employed although suspended) How was he supposed to report only 2nd hand info?

Look at the facts and put yourself in his shoes before you look at what the media has portrayed
deanhills
Blaster wrote:
Look at the facts and put yourself in his shoes before you look at what the media has portrayed
How would you have handled the situation?
Blaster
deanhills wrote:
Blaster wrote:
Look at the facts and put yourself in his shoes before you look at what the media has portrayed
How would you have handled the situation?

Put in Joe's shoes?

I would have told my higher ups and went to the police. Although with it only being relayed to him and he not seeing it I would be in a bind. If i go to the police and tell them that my coach saw my other coach doing such a thing it could look bad for all involved. For all Joe knew them 2 hated each other and the GA was just trying to make up a lie to make the other look bad.

If I was the GA who SAW the whole thing I would have done something right then and there. First I'd call the cops then I would think about confronting him (Although i'm sure the 911 operator would tell me not to). I wouldn't just sit back and ask my dad what to do. At 26 years old you should know what to do...
deanhills
With the information you have at your disposal that seems to be the best line of action. Must say I admire Joe's acceptance of the situation with focus on the kids who had got hurt, rather than himself. That does show this guy must be a really good person. Must have been an awful dilemma for him. You get personalities like that. They really want everyone to be happy and they would rather procrastinate or hope it will go away, than create any confrontation for anyone. I always think confrontation is better, particularly in something like this, I'd probably have gone in overdrive as kids being hurt, even if it is just a rumour is serious enough to keep a watching vigil. Initially I thought he might have known, but I think he probably did not want to know.

The 26 year old had a serious dilemma on his hands, if I had been him I'd have tried to approach the police anonymously first to sound them out with regard to the best approach to come forward, if he had felt as undecided as he had. I don't know whether I'd have discussed this with my parents. I'd have gone for specialists in cases like these - carefully first - asking what the correct approach might be. Since the injured boy was a charity case, maybe the local Welfare Department could have been a good starting point asking for advice. I doubt I'd have gone through a front door of a police station to report the incident, unless I knew that it would be dealt with with the greatest discretion.
Blaster
Why wouldn't you go to the police right away? I wouldn't have left that locker room with that sick F*** in there like that. Thats just messed up. There is a law that if you witnessing a murder you are an accessory to murder unless you report it. I think the same should be true with what the GA did in this case. He saw something illegal and down right wrong happening and in my mind FAILED to do anything right then and there allowing this to go on.

If you saw someone getting shot would you call 911? Lets just say most shootings get the cops called on them. Well whats the difference. People need to learn that calling 911 is not a bad thing.

My friend is a 911 dispatcher and he put it to me the right way. When you call 911 you have something that you can't handle. You have a problem that requires people with expertise in something. Its like saying I have lost control of the situation.

So for example your house is on fire, you can't put it out yourself. If you have fallen and broken your hip, you need someone to take you to the hospital. If someone is shooting right in front of you then you call the cops because they have the expertise to handle that situation. So what makes this any difference?
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