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S3nd K3ys
I will get good and drunk, then call the cops in the middle of the night to say there is an armed intruder in my house. The second I dial 911 I will start a stopwatch. When the cops show up to save me and my family, I will tell them the bad guys ran out the back and jumped the fence. I'll post up the time it takes them to respond and save me and my family.

Maybe then you will see that guns are not needed when there are pros around to keep us safe.
damj
Good one K3ys ... Laughing

I saw the title (but didn't notice he author) and thought that someone was going to lead a serious chat, so I was going to post "good luck".
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
Good one K3ys ... Laughing


I saw the title (but didn't notice he author) and thought that someone was going to lead a serious chat, so I was going to post "good luck".


What sucks is that the police are not responsible for protecting you.
damj
Well, to a point. They aren't omni-present and can't be in all places at all times to stop all crimes (thankfully, otherwise I would have lost my privledge to drive years ago ... Very Happy )

I have 3 cops living either across the street or within 2 hours to either side of me and the former mayor of our city directly behind me ... and do you think that would stop some knucklehead from cruising our neighborhood on a weekly basis for open garages and unlocked cars?

Realistically, there is a limit to how much they can protect us. Personally, I would mind keeping one of my legally licensed firearms in the house, but my wife is dead set against it, so I'll just have to kill any idiots who dare enter my house the old school way, with my K-bar and a baseball bat.
Helios
That will be fun..

actually it's interesting!
waiting for the result... Very Happy
planet
Whatever happened to flowers, kisses and V signs ?
Don't tell me.......

Flowers trot on,
Kisses are hard with a split lip
V signs are Oh so hard with broken fingers

=))
damj
When did this idyllic period of peace happen? ... and don't say the 60's
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
When did this idyllic period of peace happen? ... and don't say the 60's


I must have been sick that day, I missed it.
Eyre
ahah, this is gonna be good......cops in my city are overly active. just catch whoever they feel like it.
RA
The NRA is reaping the benefits of Katrina. All they have to say is "remember New Orleans".
damj
Gun Control ... there's a whole new tack this can take. I have a pistol permit ... took me 6 months to get it ad I'm cool with that... sure, check me out before you give me guns.

Actually, I think they should take the next step and make people take IQ tests too to get a gun permit ... and then, while we're rolling, make them take IQ tests for driver's licenses ... I like where this is going ... Very Happy
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
Gun Control ... there's a whole new tack this can take. I have a pistol permit ... took me 6 months to get it ad I'm cool with that... sure, check me out before you give me guns.

Actually, I think they should take the next step and make people take IQ tests too to get a gun permit ... and then, while we're rolling, make them take IQ tests for driver's licenses ... I like where this is going ... Very Happy


How about we enforce the laws currently in place before enacting new ones? It's not the law abiding citizens you have to worry about when it comes to guns.
damj
Our whole concept of jurisprudence is ass-backwards nowadays. Often, we pay more attention to the rights of the criminals than we do law-abiding citizens ... just my $0.02
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
Our whole concept of jurisprudence is ***-backwards nowadays. Often, we pay more attention to the rights of the criminals than we do law-abiding citizens ... just my $0.02


Very very true. Often times it's the victim that gets sued when a criminal gets hurt robbing them.
Nameless
You DO realise that would be illegal right?

Just checking.
mOrpheuS
S3nd K3ys wrote:
call the cops in the middle of the night to say there is an armed intruder in my house. The second I dial 911 I will start a stopwatch. When the cops show up to save me and my family, I will tell them the bad guys ran out the back and jumped the fence. I'll post up the time it takes them to respond and save me and my family.


Aah....sheer scientific inquisitiveness. Rolling Eyes

I just love how such genius plans are invariably powered by eco-friendly stuff
S3nd K3ys wrote:
get good and drunk

Wink


Try to conceal that stop-watch and post the time it takes them to drive you to the lockup. Laughing
budazz
i think the police will arrest you if they found out that you just making fun with them , that is a big case.. you know... Idea
joshua_erceg
That sounds very risky...
What if they somehow realised you were lieing?
Heh, I would never do that... Very Happy
damj
Relax gang ... I think that K3ys was joking ... right K3ys ... right?!?!?!
GiLaD
sounds nice... that's actually a pretty good idead. i recommend you to film this whole thing and spread it all over the net.
this will be a nice thing to do...
damj
Quote:
Relax gang ... I think that K3ys was joking ... right K3ys ... right?!?!?!


hmmm .... no response from K3ys ... maybe he wasn't kidding ... Laughing
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
Quote:
Relax gang ... I think that K3ys was joking ... right K3ys ... right?!?!?!


... maybe he wasn't kidding ... Laughing


planet
Well K3ys IF you are dragged off I hope you will be sent to a place with internet, do stay in touch, this is w a y too fun =))[/i]
S3nd K3ys
planet wrote:
Well K3ys IF you are dragged off I hope you will be sent to a place with internet, do stay in touch, this is w a y too fun =))[/i]


Yeah, they'd be real pissed if they found out what I was doing. Laughing
Bondings
S3nd K3ys, please inform us what happened. I'm really curious.

By the way, apparantly in Belgium, if you are fast enough to alert them, they can send a helicopter in 5-15 minutes. But most of the time the thieves are already gone by then.
n0obie4life
Are you maddddd?!

In my country, they would go out everywhere to look for him. Then prolly question you a thousand times, you'd get so pissed that you would admit that you lied.
S3nd K3ys
You ain't gonna believe how this turned out! No time now, but I'll come back later and fill you in!

Shocked
planet
*Never to be seen again*, sad really,,,, good ol K3ys =(
n0obie4life
Say, if we don't see keys online for the next 3-7 days, we all would have know what happened to him Wink
Dark_Jedi06
I can't wait to hear this story, K3ys...

Dancing
Nameless
Damn it, I bet he actually has plenty of time on his hands. He just loves keeping us in suspence.
planet
Unfortunately as time goes by, the chances of ol K3eys being in the BIG house with a 8', 250 pounds guy callad Bubba saying "yass my BITCH", are growing bigger by the minute =( ^L*
tidruG
Nameless wrote:
Damn it, I bet he actually has plenty of time on his hands. He just loves keeping us in suspence.


Heh heh, yeah I agree... He's probably just toying around with us. He'll probably just come around a couple of days later and tell us something like this...

"This is what really happened... the cops came and went, and right after they left, I was trying to log on to the Internet but the damn computer got infected with a virus, so it crashed. I had to log on from a library to tell y'all to wait for my suspense-filled update. So, there we have it... a computer with a virus... a bad virus... I got it fixed now though", or something like that

Very Happy
damj
Quote:
Unfortunately as time goes by, the chances of ol K3eys being in the BIG house with a 8', 250 pounds guy callad Bubba saying "yass my BITCH", are growing bigger by the minute =( ^L*


Who knows ... maybe K3ys would like that .... Laughing
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
Quote:
Unfortunately as time goes by, the chances of ol K3eys being in the BIG house with a 8', 250 pounds guy callad Bubba saying "yass my BITCH", are growing bigger by the minute =( ^L*


Who knows ... maybe K3ys would like that .... Laughing


I prefer to be the giver, not the reciever. Shocked

Ok. Long story short...

Cops came. Took only 12 minutes, (they were responding to a hit-n-run down the road a mile or two, and dropped it when they got the call from me.) They spent about 30 minutes at/near my house, then left. Came back an hour later with one of my (noisy, beer-can throwing out of the truck, obnoxous, tweaker looking) neighbors in the back of the car. Said they found him down the road with drugs/guns/money on him. (I'm trying real hard to keep a straight face). I tell them I really can't confirm the guys face, but suggested if they point the gun at my head with a flashlight in my face yelling at me like the intruder was doing, and I'll be able to tell if that's the gun or not.

They wouldn't do it so I didn't pin the guy, but said the gun was stolen and hauled the him away anyway. Right after I told them to stick the gun in my face I started to smirk (trying to hold back laughing), but was able to fake like I was getting choked up, kind of starting to cry when I remembered the incident.

When they finally left, all my neighbors standing around couldn't figure out why I was laughing so hard. I didn't tell them.

Bottom line, in 12 minutes, with them 2 miles away, I would be dead.
n0obie4life
So there was a real person holding a gun Rolling Eyes ?

If there weren't a hit-run, how long would it take?
planet
WELLCOME home K3ys =))
S3nd K3ys
n0obie4life wrote:
So there was a real person holding a gun Rolling Eyes ?

If there weren't a hit-run, how long would it take?


Yeah. He was walking down the road about a mile from my house. I don't know what he was doing with a gun that late, but I think he got screwed. Shocked Prolly won't see him around for a while. Laughing Laughing

The town I'm in is un-incorporated, so we have Sheriffs. I was guessing it would have taken at least 20-30 minutes. I was suprised when they showed up after 12.
gonzo
damj wrote:
Actually, I think they should take the next step and make people take IQ tests too to get a gun permit ... and then, while we're rolling, make them take IQ tests for driver's licenses ... I like where this is going ... Very Happy



You're not taking that far enough. If your IQ is not higher than your weight*:


- you shall not vote
- you shall not hold public office


Let's reflect on how effectively laws regular criminal activity.... but before that let's reflect on what it means to be a criminal.... one who does not obey laws

now think for a few moments on concept "gun control laws" (gun rights ownership supression)


yeah... more laws is definately an improvement



not





* starving yourself will only ultimately damage your iq, but a prerequisite will be your weight not be less than the mean weight for your build.
damj
Quote:
You're not taking that far enough. If your IQ is not higher than your weight*:


Damn Gonzo.... I'll have to cut back on the beer and pizza, exercise, and renew my membership to Mensa ... Laughing

On second thought, looking at our choices they give us to pick between ... I'll give up voting instead Very Happy
S3nd K3ys
damj wrote:
Quote:
You're not taking that far enough. If your IQ is not higher than your weight*:


Damn Gonzo.... I'll have to cut back on the beer and pizza, exercise, and renew my membership to Mensa ... Laughing

On second thought, looking at our choices they give us to pick between ... I'll give up voting instead Very Happy


Heh, my IQ is already higher than my weight. Wink
damj
Lucky ... my weight hasn't been less than my IQ since boot camp ... but that's not bad ... for most people, the last time that their weight was below their Iq was ... oh, I don't know .... grade school ?!?!? Laughing
smksa.prefects
Its againt the law to make fun of police officers....imagine ur the police and someone is making a prank on you...how would you feel.....

"WHAT GOES UP, MUST COME DOWN"
>> Whatever you do...the effect wil return back

Think before you do anyyhing foolish. God gave us brains to use it wisely...not to misuse it..
S3nd K3ys
smksa.prefects wrote:
Its againt the law to make fun of police officers....imagine ur the police and someone is making a prank on you...how would you feel.....

"WHAT GOES UP, MUST COME DOWN"
>> Whatever you do...the effect wil return back

Think before you do anyyhing foolish. God gave us brains to use it wisely...not to misuse it..


Against the law to make fun of police? Not in THIS country!
smksa.prefects
S3nd K3ys wrote:
smksa.prefects wrote:
Its againt the law to make fun of police officers....imagine ur the police and someone is making a prank on you...how would you feel.....

"WHAT GOES UP, MUST COME DOWN"
>> Whatever you do...the effect wil return back

Think before you do anyyhing foolish. God gave us brains to use it wisely...not to misuse it..


Against the law to make fun of police? Not in THIS country!


ok...ok...but it is againts the law of GOD to make fun of people.
S3nd K3ys
smksa.prefects wrote:
S3nd K3ys wrote:
smksa.prefects wrote:
Its againt the law to make fun of police officers....imagine ur the police and someone is making a prank on you...how would you feel.....

"WHAT GOES UP, MUST COME DOWN"
>> Whatever you do...the effect wil return back

Think before you do anyyhing foolish. God gave us brains to use it wisely...not to misuse it..


Against the law to make fun of police? Not in THIS country!


ok...ok...but it is againts the law of GOD to make fun of people.
Rolling Eyes
damj
S3nd K3ys wrote:


Against the law to make fun of police? Not in THIS country!


In this country, a certain level of questioning or authority is considered healthy. You should see how we make fun of our own president.
ocalhoun
Even supposing I actually could rely on others to protect me, I would still like to have guns.
Am I the only one who thinks they are fun to shoot, no matter if the target is an armed intruder, or bottles on the back of a friend's pickup truck?
Also, don't forget when the cops come, what will they be carrying?
damj
Yeah, guns are fun to shoot ... even just doing target practice, especially in the military where you can play with some of the fun stuff, like a 50 cal machine gun ... ohhhh BAY-BEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
gonzo
damj wrote:
Quote:
You're not taking that far enough. If your IQ is not higher than your weight*:


Damn Gonzo.... I'll have to cut back on the beer and pizza, exercise, and renew my membership to Mensa ... Laughing

On second thought, looking at our choices they give us to pick between ... I'll give up voting instead Very Happy



If you were inclined to vote for Kerry then I'll affirm your new no-voting stance Wink
psycosquirrel
Guns are not needed in TODAYS time (if you live in a safe area of the USA), but they may be needed in the near future for various reasons. This is why I am entirely pro-gun, and will be purchasing a rifle immediately when I turn 18. Better to be safe rather than sorry (or dead) later.
hkusp45
BTW, sys was exactly right when he posted that the police have no responsibility to protect individual citizens. In the Washington Heights case that went all the way to the Supreme Court, the court ruled that individuals have no right to protection by the police. In that case, a riot broke out in one area, and the police ended up pulling out because it became extremely dangerous for them (and everyone else). The citizens who were left behind to fend for themselves eventually sued the police department. They lost. And so did we.

Crimes occur in a matter of seconds. Police are usually many minutes away.

HK
lockwolf
I have a simple phrase I like to remember "Shoot first, ask questions if they still moving"
planet
K3ys,
"Heh, my IQ is already higher than my weight."

Yass gotta be waay skinnee ^L*
damj
gonzo wrote:

If you were inclined to vote for Kerry then I'll affirm your new no-voting stance Wink


Yes I am and I am looking forward to '08 when Hillary runs!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!

I am a rebublican by registration, independent by inclination, apathetic by cynacism.

Politics are a joke in this country. The Dems trot out some far left candidate and pretend that they actaully care about the other 80% of the country by pretending to be centrist ... and the republicans do the same.

Damn, give us some VIABLE alternatives ....
S3nd K3ys
psycosquirrel wrote:
Guns are not needed in TODAYS time (if you live in a safe area of the USA)...


HuH??? Confused Confused Confused

Describe a 'safe' area of the US...
n0obie4life
lol. Safe area. Nowhere's safe.
xtreme
damj wrote:

Damn, give us some VIABLE alternatives ....

What, Ralph Nader doesn't do it for ya??? Very Happy

Anyway, about the guns thing, I would rather protect myself than let the police do it. In my experience the only time the cops were ever there for me is when I was doing something wrong. Never when I needed them. Not to mention the fact that I've met very few cops who could shoot better than me (they don't train them like they used to). So, I would much rather rely on my Sig Sauer to provide security for me.

And here are some good clichés relative to the subject.

I'd rather have and not need than need and not have.
I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.
damj
xtreme wrote:

What, Ralph Nader doesn't do it for ya??? Very Happy


No ... and neither does:

Gene Amondson - CONCERNS OF PEOPLE (PROHIBITION) PARTY
Michael Peroutka - CONSTITUTION PARTY
David Cobb - GREEN PARTY
Michael Badnarik - LIBERTARIAN PARTY
Leonard Peltier - PEACE & FREEDOM PARTY OF CALIFORNIA
Charles Jay - PERSONAL CHOICE PARTY
Earl F. Dodge - PROHIBITION PARTY OF COLORADO
Bill Van Auken - SOCIALIST EQUALITY PARTY
Róger Calero - SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY
James Harris - ALTERNATE (SURROGATE) SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY
John Parker - WORKERS WORLD PARTY
TreadStone
S3nd K3ys wrote:
damj wrote:
Quote:
Unfortunately as time goes by, the chances of ol K3eys being in the BIG house with a 8', 250 pounds guy callad Bubba saying "yass my BITCH", are growing bigger by the minute =( ^L*


Who knows ... maybe K3ys would like that .... Laughing


I prefer to be the giver, not the reciever. Shocked

Ok. Long story short...

Cops came. Took only 12 minutes, (they were responding to a hit-n-run down the road a mile or two, and dropped it when they got the call from me.) They spent about 30 minutes at/near my house, then left. Came back an hour later with one of my (noisy, beer-can throwing out of the truck, obnoxous, tweaker looking) neighbors in the back of the car. Said they found him down the road with drugs/guns/money on him. (I'm trying real hard to keep a straight face). I tell them I really can't confirm the guys face, but suggested if they point the gun at my head with a flashlight in my face yelling at me like the intruder was doing, and I'll be able to tell if that's the gun or not.

They wouldn't do it so I didn't pin the guy, but said the gun was stolen and hauled the him away anyway. Right after I told them to stick the gun in my face I started to smirk (trying to hold back laughing), but was able to fake like I was getting choked up, kind of starting to cry when I remembered the incident.

When they finally left, all my neighbors standing around couldn't figure out why I was laughing so hard. I didn't tell them.

Bottom line, in 12 minutes, with them 2 miles away, I would be dead.


great job dude..you must be crazy
the666bbq
I did that stopwatch thing once ... here is my result 99:99:99
mOrpheuS
gonzo wrote:
If your IQ is not higher than your weight*:


- you shall not vote
- you shall not hold public office

That's all very novel, but it's dependent upon the unit of measurement.

You left a huge loophole in that.
And people are already exploiting it !
S3nd K3ys wrote:
Heh, my IQ is already higher than my weight. Wink

(just kidding Laughing )
damj
mOrpheuS wrote:

That's all very novel, but it's dependent upon the unit of measurement.


Whew ... Thank you mOrpheuS ... now I can drag all 0.2 kips of me into the voting booth and pull that handle for Michael Badnarik with pride ... Laughing
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