http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4327928.stm
Well this affects us all.
Apparently there is a fight going on over who is going to be in charge. My question is: just how much and what exactly does "control" entail when referring to the internet?
My vote is for a council of all nations to have a say - because really we are taking about major freedoms here and I certainly don't trust any single government. No-one can control the internet, as the internet does not exist as a few or few dozen super computers as depicted in the movie "The Net". Rather it is built up as millions of computers connected to each other, thus creating the internet. So long as the internet exists in this fashion, No-one can control the internet. It just isn't possible, even today, there are tons of ways to get to sites that have been blocked off by countrie's ISPs.
well that is definitely good news...
No one owns the Internet or should I say control it. Technically, it's a huge and vast "interconnection" of computers. So, I think it's clear that no can own it or control it because of it's nature and topography.
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i guess that the control of the internet is the unique way to stop the terrorsim, cause we are in a new ere, the ere of the information, and the internet is a interminat*** source of information that is free of all censure.
although I am relieved to hear they aren't able to control much... they must be fighting over something... ??
| sirta wrote: |
| i guess that the control of the internet is the unique way to stop the terrorsim, cause we are in a new ere, the ere of the information, and the internet is a interminat*** source of information that is free of all censure. |
Lock the most free and incredible way of communication of all mankind history because stupid criminals use it? That is such a terrible thought.
Beside criminals, internet helps world education, science and...THE POLICE!
There isn't a way to control the internet because the main govern in the internet is ANARCHISM and it works well because it's anarchist.
Supose you can control everthing in the internet, the criminals can easily build a secret server and get happy. The shit is done, there is no return =)I think we should compromise to slove this trouble.
American agency continue to mangage internet,but no last power to judge important things about internet.UN agency control it.
Despite what has been repeated here time and again, the Internet is actually a 35 year-old creation of the United States' government -- specifically of the Defense Advanced Projects Research Agency department of the Pentagon. By this, I mean that THE INTERNET IS THE JUST AND RIGHTFUL PROPERTY OF THE U.S GOVERNMENT. It is NOT "a global ressource".
And once more, despite what has been repeated here time and again, the Internet does essentially consist of 13 supercomputers installed around the world -- collectivelly known as the Domain Name System (DNS) -- which allow end-users to connect to, and navigate the web by translating the strings of domain names (e.g.: google.com) into IP addresses that computers can understand (e.g.: 124.324.1.108).
However, the master supercomputer which assigns Top-Level Domains (e.g.: .com, .net, .us, .info, .org) is located within the U.S and is fully under the control of the U.S Department of Commerce. Currently, the only entity fully empowered to edit and assign TLDs is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).
As you should have guessed by now, it is control over this master supercomputer that that moral abomination known as the U.N wants. I don't suppose it is hard to imagine what is going to happen when such slave-pens as China, Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia ... among others ... get their clutches on what is virtually the last remaining sector of freethought and enterprise left on the globe.
Make the wrong choice at your own peril. Lots of Luck. No one should control the internet,the internet is a global information system-no goverment can claim to manage the internet,because if some goverment will control the internet-it will be the end of the freedom of information and of opinions- THE INTERNET MUST BE FREE! FOREVER! 
| dan751 wrote: |
| No-one can control the internet |
Never heard of DNS poison have you?
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Tiers. First tier infrastructure providers bear MOST of the switching burden. As MOST of the Tier1 providers are US firms it would be fair to say the internet would suffer horrifically if all US contributions ceased. Need we have a history lesson on who founded the internet -- and we're not talking the web here.there are far too many people cracking and scamming things at all times to acctually be able to have a single group of people control the whole internet. How many websites are there? How many of those crappy 20meg geocities websites are up about random crap? look at p2p. nothings under control and nothing ever will be. The youth is growing up and learning faster than the 40 and 50 year olds can catch on, and kicking some major ass.
yeuh.
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| Need we have a history lesson on who founded the internet -- and we're not talking the web here. |
Al Gore invented the internet. Don't you know history?whatever policies governments will attempt to impose on the 'internet' are doomed to failure. I can't think of another system in the world that is so decentralized. I think it's the new cold war... though I'm not sure who is on which side. Once government/or whatever policy-making body issues a new rule, there will always be a new work-around or loophole (i.e. hack). So it's this constant escalation between these two quasi-sides. I'm wondering what the outcome will be?
| illini319 wrote: |
| I'm wondering what the outcome will be? |
Excellent personal crypto punishable by death for use | hive wrote: |
| Lock the most free and incredible way of communication of all mankind history because stupid criminals use it? That is such a terrible thought. |
That would be like outlawing vehicles because thieves use them to get away from a crime scene, or outlawing all knives because some serial killer goes on a spree and stabs people. It's just completely and utterly insane.It is not only an issue of the internet which is arrogantly policed and felt necessary to dictate by the United States, but also a much larger arrogance that American politicians feel that is their duty and right to subordinate the world with their ideologies. Now don't get me wrong, I love the country in which I live. However, it is disgusts me to see what our politicians feel that it is our duty as a country to do in terms of control of the rest of the world. It is especially disturbing to see this when we have famine and financial difficulties in our own country, though, the American people are for the most part binded by the propaganda of mass media that distracts them from the larger picture of themselves.
the freer the better
cenzsorship is evil
internet by definition is a vast connection of networks and computers over
the world.. so it means no one owns the internet.. internet is the biggest
source of information whether its bad or good.. the point is, those group
or countries who wants to control internet might use it as a security
advantage againts their foes and it is extremely dangerous.. I dont think
controlling internet is necessary, its up to you if your gonna use it for bad
or your gonna use it for good.. ITS NOT A RESPONSIBILITY OF ONE
PERSON or A POLITICIAN who just want to make a NAME, its every body's responsibility... cheers! There Are some people that misuse there freedom and maybe it will hit them or all of us.
| Modulator wrote: |
| It is not only an issue of the internet which is arrogantly policed and felt necessary to dictate by the United States, but also a much larger arrogance that American politicians feel that is their duty and right to subordinate the world with their ideologies. Now don't get me wrong, I love the country in which I live. However, it is disgusts me to see what our politicians feel that it is our duty as a country to do in terms of control of the rest of the world. It is especially disturbing to see this when we have famine and financial difficulties in our own country, though, the American people are for the most part binded by the propaganda of mass media that distracts them from the larger picture of themselves. |
That's it.every portion of the internet can be traced back to some piece of infrastructure in the US, so the internet can never be totally "free". if anyone out there has the money and resources to build their own "free" internetwork, be my guest.
and some of these posts sound more like bumper sticker, college campus politics than actuall intelligent insight.
| johnyfitz wrote: |
| and some of these posts sound more like bumper sticker, college campus politics than actuall intelligent insight. |
Hey johny, why don't you let us know your whole opnion about what you think is bumper sticker and what are not.
That's discussion forum, and everbody is here to express and discuss things. 
master english grammer (ie verb agreement) and then criticize my opinion.
But i didn't criticize anything. You wanna talk about grammar? That's a subject to the chat forum and not for this one. 
Ok, I undestand you don't want to talk about or don't have argumnents. The internet can't be controlled by anyone. It's just kind of a floating entity out there that spreads across the world. If a page must be taken down for whatever reason, the country the page came from should take responsibility and deal with whoever made the page however they must.
bad thing appearing better than hidding,i think.
The problem with the internet is the way in which it evolved. Because it is simply an extension of the ARPANET in the US, the United States government has had a powerful role in controlling it. Icann was created after the birth of the quasi-modern internet when domain name registration became a priority. Nevertheless, the problem remains that because the so called internet is simply the extension of the original American network, the US has a greater role. Of course, now that the world is interconnected through servers located on all continents, it would not be difficult to bypass American control and create a new system, however that will certainly lead to the fragmentation of the internet, an event all hope to avoid.
Internet does belong noone. Noone have a responsibility to manage it. If some idead are advocated in there, and if you are afraid of this because of the risk to harm you; you must do something against...But not control the internet. This is my idea. But if terrorists exists on there some must make them stop. Thiis some is a cooperation o f government that are not only under risk of this, but also the others...
who would control it?
there would be too many problems with trying to control the internet,
somepeople would want more control than others etc,
i think just have it restricted at a local government level as it is, not some kind of international internet control thing
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http://www.3shades.tk What's free? Who's free in this world? I want know.
Rules is everywhere, and somebody to force to be "inside" of the rules have to exist.
But in essence we have the right of choose between two or more choices; in that way maybe have to start another "Internet"
Line phone, broadband, cable, are products to sell the internet, and you have to pay for it.
And buy subdomains, or products, software and hardware is the real business inside. All the word means "MONEY"
But the "knowledge" have a price....
How do they control the internet? Meaning if we say something bad about a particular government, they will after us? If that is the case, it defeats the purpose of the internet - freedom of communication.
| dan751 wrote: |
| No-one can control the internet. It just isn't possible, even today, there are tons of ways to get to sites that have been blocked off by countrie's ISPs. |
I have to disagree, the internet is already being controlled - by big business. Certainly, you can get a blog or some tiny amount of webspace for free to post a short bio and daily ranting, but there's just no way to do more (except this site, which is why I joined!). I remember back when the internet first started growing . . . everything was free! I had a personal website with a million graphics and links, and my dad was running a great small business over the internet in his spare time just because he could. But now you have to pay for EVERYTHING. I used to love the internet for its radical, anti-consumerist possibilities, but now all I use it for is shopping on Amazon...dan751
Just like he says ::No-one can control the internet. It just isn't possible, even today, there are tons of ways to get to sites that have been blocked off by countrie's ISPs.
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No one will ever be able to fully control the net. For one example of why, just look at how much control any other company has over ensuring that their software is only going to be installed and used on computers owned by customers who purchased it. How many times have thye come out with spyware/hacking programs to allow access to just about any system connected to the net. There is no practical or even remotely simple way for anyone to go about taking control of the net for that matter either, the ammount of money that it would take to develope a procedure or program to take control would be enormous and a violation of a lot of countries civil rights(at least the ones that have any civil rights to start with).
