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Romney: Two Big Lies in his Candidacy Announcement





handfleisch
Republican Mitt Romney announced his candidacy for presidency this week and then, in the same speech, told two huge lies. Not just regular, politician doublespeak, but the kind that earn "Pants-On-Fire" rating from the nonpartisan Politifact.com.

Romney lie #1
Quote:
"A few months into office, (President Barack Obama) traveled around the globe to apologize for America."


Romney lie #2
Quote:
"We are only inches away from ceasing to be a free market economy."


(But the part where he said he's running for president was apparently true.)

So two major lies in the candidacy announcement of the supposedly most moderate and reasonable of the GOP runners. That must be some kind of record. Republicans, are you proud?

http://politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
deanhills
Why do you think they were lies? I remember I felt like crawling under a table during his first travels to Europe when he was trying to "win friends and influence people" by bowing and doing all kinds of silly speeches. Now that did come across as apologetic to those outside the US anyway. It did win him votes outside the US too, except now with the Middle East crisis and the "Arab Awakening", they wonder whether he is just a Casper version of Bush.

If Japan and China would stop buying Treasury Bonds, then yes, I agree, the US is inches away from being a free economy. So it is not really that far fetched at all. The US is completely vulnerable because of it huge debt. Sort of common sense I would say? Twisted Evil
handfleisch
deanhills wrote:
Why do you think they were lies?


Sorry to hear your computer's broken so you can't click on links. Here is the conclusion

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/03/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-traveled-around-glob/
Quote:
On the substance of Romney’s charge, we believe that what we wrote in March 2010 still stands. While Obama's speeches contained some criticisms of past U.S. actions, those passages were typically leavened by praise for the United States and its ideals, and he frequently mentioned how other countries have erred as well. We found not a single, full-throated apology in the bunch. And on the new angle he added -- that the trips were intended to offer the president a forum to apologize to other countries -- we think it’s a ridiculous charge. There’s a clear difference between changing policies and apologizing, and Obama didn’t do the latter. So we rate Romney’s statement Pants on Fire.

Romney lied in his book about Obama on the same thing, and is repeating the flat-out lie now.
deanhills
Thanks Handfleisch. If you go for the literal "we are sorry". Then "yes" it is a lie. It was never a literal apology. More like Obama had to prove that there was something just so much better in store for the people out there than there has been before under Bush. And more or less, without using the actual word "sorry" apologizing for Bush's misdeeds. He did say "sorry" without actually saying the word. And it worked. He had people listening to him, but for only so long. And then they became cynical.
ocalhoun
handfleisch wrote:

Romney lie #1
Quote:
"A few months into office, (President Barack Obama) traveled around the globe to apologize for America."


Yeah, except if taken in the very loosest sense, that is a lie.
Trying to reintegrate with estranged partners is not the same as apologizing.
Quote:

Romney lie #2
Quote:
"We are only inches away from ceasing to be a free market economy."


By a strict definition, it is already not a free market economy.

Any economy where the government tries to shape actions by manipulating the economy is not a 'free market' economy.

Not that a truly 100% free market economy would be any kind of utopia though; quite the opposite, actually.
--However, that doesn't mean that all government interference in the economy is a good thing either; government economic policies often do more harm than good, particularly when corruption enters into the problem.
Quote:

So two major lies in the candidacy announcement of the supposedly most moderate and reasonable of the GOP runners. That must be some kind of record.

Only two? They must be slipping.
Or maybe they're just not trying?
liljp617
It would be crazy for the absolute best country in the existence of the universe to apologize for anything. I mean, seriously, what has the world's most fantastic empire ever done wrong?
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