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when airplane "hit" the pentagon Is This really true? what do you think http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon244.swf I think its true because there wasn't any airplane part at the scene of the accident. Airplane is pretty big you know would'nt you think ur find some parts of it. What weird is that the government didn't mention this. So what really did happen? who knows?   |
Something odd about the 9/11 incident
ummm........who cares. people died, and that's all you need to take into account. Rather interesting video though, it's neat to see some of the ways different things can be proven wrong. But one thing to remember is the technology we have today. many things can be manipulated, including video, so don't believe everything you see. I don't know though, i sat in first period and watched horrified as the second plane hit the tower, and my friend's dad died in it as well. for me that's enough not to make me doubt anything. what would have happened to the plane if that was the case?
This is very interesting. I will do more research on this. If anyone else has anything about this I'd love to hear it.
this is a very old news. 
guess most people doesn't bothers about it anymore.
They are more concern in the present, now how to prevent more terrorist attacks..
guess most people doesn't bothers about it anymore.
They are more concern in the present, now how to prevent more terrorist attacks..
Yes. Hundreds of people died, dozens of people watched it happened but it was all a government cover up. Hmmm. That's stretching the whole 'government conspiracy theory' to a new high. What's next... Terrorism is a clever government conspiracy to keep everyone in there house for brain washing?
I haven't looked at the above link, but I REALLY doubt there is some huge conspiracy about 9/11.
Do some mroe research into experts who research this incident.
There is an aviation website http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/index.php where they have experts who have chimed in on the so called conspiracy. Instead of a flashy media content you actually have to sort through facts. There is alot more information and pictures. Even one of the conspirators discusses his thoughts ( Sorry I lost bkmrk). A 757 hittings the pentagon would literally dissolve on impact. The amount of heat would melt anything in the core location of the stopping point of the wreckage. It's horrible. It leiterally leaves a molten puddle of alloys.
The twin towers were steel contruction designed primarily for vertical loads. The pentagon on the other hand is a secure facility with special contruction techniques to prevent normal bombs and disasters from doing catastrophic damage. The wings would have folded up like a paper napkin. I used to work in a classified facility designed in the 40's and it has steel and concrete construction to survive the peripheral damage due to nuclear weaponry. Most of these facilities are on the outskirts of major targets to protect them.
Peace,
Atomic
There is an aviation website http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/index.php where they have experts who have chimed in on the so called conspiracy. Instead of a flashy media content you actually have to sort through facts. There is alot more information and pictures. Even one of the conspirators discusses his thoughts ( Sorry I lost bkmrk). A 757 hittings the pentagon would literally dissolve on impact. The amount of heat would melt anything in the core location of the stopping point of the wreckage. It's horrible. It leiterally leaves a molten puddle of alloys.
The twin towers were steel contruction designed primarily for vertical loads. The pentagon on the other hand is a secure facility with special contruction techniques to prevent normal bombs and disasters from doing catastrophic damage. The wings would have folded up like a paper napkin. I used to work in a classified facility designed in the 40's and it has steel and concrete construction to survive the peripheral damage due to nuclear weaponry. Most of these facilities are on the outskirts of major targets to protect them.
Peace,
Atomic
| Eyre wrote: |
| ummm........who cares. people died, and that's all you need to take into account. Rather interesting video though, it's neat to see some of the ways different things can be proven wrong. But one thing to remember is the technology we have today. many things can be manipulated, including video, so don't believe everything you see. I don't know though, i sat in first period and watched horrified as the second plane hit the tower, and my friend's dad died in it as well. for me that's enough not to make me doubt anything. what would have happened to the plane if that was the case? |
I have trouble believing this (old) theory as well, but it is responses like these that make me re-think it for a minute. If there were a government coverup of something, this is just the type of reaction they would hope and plan for. Just because something involves death, that doesn't mean we have to shut our eyes and ears to it. Death happens.
If we don't look into the source of the issue (which very few people do), then we will never discover what truly caused this terrible calamity and what we can do to prevent it in the future. This type of thinking is exactly what keeps over half of Americans in the dark about Saddam Hussein's relationship to September 11th.
Just to clear this up for anyone who's confused: There is NO CONNECTION between Saddam and September 11th.
I know this got a little off-thread. So, to bring it back, although this is probably just a bunch of bullmallarky, it may still be worth reading about just in case there is some validity to the claims.
I have to laugh at your statement 
"There is NO CONNECTION between Saddam and September 11th."
I must not have been clear in my last post...
The average person will never know, and to able to state something as fact based upon "media" and "government" sources proves nobody is willing (or incapable) of understanding the nature of covert operations.
Do you belong or work for any of the following organizations:
CIA - Paramilitary or otherwise
FBI
NRO
AISR
ARMY
NAVY
US Air Force
Marines
Do you have Clearances to view or obtain data of the following classifications and the Foreign equivalent:
Top Secret
Secret
Confidential
FGI
NATO
COMSEC
Until everybody begins to grasp the idea they don't know diddly doodoo
then the US and other governments are going to keep doing what they are with absolutely no accountability.
Sometimes I feel the everyday liberal and conservative just likes to Lob around issues they know nothing about because they want to have a voice to express what they feel deep down. Which is you don't know Diddly.
Peace,
Atomic
"There is NO CONNECTION between Saddam and September 11th."
I must not have been clear in my last post...
The average person will never know, and to able to state something as fact based upon "media" and "government" sources proves nobody is willing (or incapable) of understanding the nature of covert operations.
Do you belong or work for any of the following organizations:
CIA - Paramilitary or otherwise
FBI
NRO
AISR
ARMY
NAVY
US Air Force
Marines
Do you have Clearances to view or obtain data of the following classifications and the Foreign equivalent:
Top Secret
Secret
Confidential
FGI
NATO
COMSEC
Until everybody begins to grasp the idea they don't know diddly doodoo
then the US and other governments are going to keep doing what they are with absolutely no accountability.
Sometimes I feel the everyday liberal and conservative just likes to Lob around issues they know nothing about because they want to have a voice to express what they feel deep down. Which is you don't know Diddly.
Peace,
Atomic
Be sure to have the shiny side out.
^lol what's the Koolaid for. I saw that video before it really doesnt look like a plane hit into there. I also be there like a while after it hit when they were cleaning up everything and it didint look like anything hit into it. It lookedlike a bomb went off in it or it just fell down.
There was a plane. Tell me, what has the government got to gain from conspiring? Nothing. Saying that the whole thing is a cover up because there is no plane remains is just like saying after a bomb blast, "There was no bomb, I mean, I couldn't even see one after the blast".
One wouldn't be prudent to assume that if what isn't there wasn't there.
One wouldn't be prudent to assume that if what isn't there wasn't there.
| DarkYuke wrote: |
| There was a plane. Tell me, what has the government got to gain from conspiring? Nothing. Saying that the whole thing is a cover up because there is no plane remains is just like saying after a bomb blast, "There was no bomb, I mean, I couldn't even see one after the blast".
One wouldn't be prudent to assume that if what isn't there wasn't there. |
The lunar landing was done in a warehouse. We never really went there.
the SWF video is actually well done and interesting. thanks for posting this. i actually hadn't heard about it before.
This most probably would be some clever jeeks video manipulation. Dont fall for these. You cant believe even your eyes.
I dunno why u people find it so hard to fathom the possibility that 911 was staged and as fake as monday night wrestling. Yeah people died and wrestler's backs hit the mat and get sore. Your point? It doesn't matter if it was 5,000 or 10 million dead. You people need to open your eyes and do some digging and stop takin everything fox news says as a fact. learn to QUESTION reality and everything u see. I don't pretend to have all the answers but I know a made for tv movie when I see one. And the science and facts just don't add up in 911. But I am not gonna continue this argument with any of you. Go head LIVE IN IGNORANCE!! and be a good corporate slave and don't question your "masters" on the job place for your precious $5.15 an hour which won't fill your car tank with gas and leave you broke between paychecks. The truth is out there.......But it won't come looking for you. You have to find it.
Alright ley me just say that that video tape is real. thnx for the link aznnetwork. i know a bit about video cover ups, and teh first thing is that the hole the hole they showed in ring c i believe was way too small. the person would have for sure enlarged it, but even if he did, you would still be able to see the differnces that its not supposed to be part of teh film. i know al this stuff because i had to do soemthing similar for my school project, e and my friend.
now the question is, did america really attack itself, and have they been lying this whole time on the Muslim's. from this short film i can say yes, i mean for a plane to make a really sharp turn that fast, its impossible. and a plane does not make a fast woooosh noise. Rather it makes a huge ear popping noise that last atleast a min. while the plane is moving over head.
See Ya
now the question is, did america really attack itself, and have they been lying this whole time on the Muslim's. from this short film i can say yes, i mean for a plane to make a really sharp turn that fast, its impossible. and a plane does not make a fast woooosh noise. Rather it makes a huge ear popping noise that last atleast a min. while the plane is moving over head.
See Ya
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| now the question is, did america really attack itself, and have they been lying this whole time on the Muslim's. |
So my point is, that the government was willing to let a lot of people die just to get re-elected another time and to increase the surveillance over the people.
Sorry if my english is sometimes not correct but I am from germany and so you can assume english is not my native language
not only to get re ejected but too atack iraq and get the oil
Could have been a nuke or missle,that hit it.But if you say it is protectd agains such normal bombs...hmm might it was a bomb inside Pnetagon then,and as at the same time there was this terrorist attack at the WTC,it was a nice idea for a coverup.
well motive wise I am thinking the reason behind staging such attacks could be the following reasons
1.Fear -So they can offer protection in the form of a police state
2.Excuse- to attack Iraq and seize control. There's a reason behind this and I think its more than oil but not sure what.
3.Another BS reason to raise gas prices.
4.Our military is bored and needs new enemies to fight with their modern weapons so we create "al-quada". As the ultimate military exercise.
1.Fear -So they can offer protection in the form of a police state
2.Excuse- to attack Iraq and seize control. There's a reason behind this and I think its more than oil but not sure what.
3.Another BS reason to raise gas prices.
4.Our military is bored and needs new enemies to fight with their modern weapons so we create "al-quada". As the ultimate military exercise.
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| Could have been a nuke or missle,that hit it.But if you say it is protectd agains such normal bombs...hmm might it was a bomb inside Pnetagon then,and as at the same time there was this terrorist attack at the WTC,it was a nice idea for a coverup. |
The damage on the pentagon is consistent with a modern bunker busting bomb......Not a 747
hey guys, im not paranoid, but i bet you that they could fill entire libraries with cover ups from different governments of the world in the past 100 years, who cares if they lie a bit, there dooing it for your benefit, and your not going to find out no matter how hard you try, just be carefull what you belive, and no tinfoil hats dont work, you need aluminum bent to preciseley calculates angles, duhh
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