You are the president, you have 1 billion dollars and it must be spent ONE way. Where would you spend it?
Id say education, build more schools.
Id say education, build more schools.
Money for education or war.
Well it depends on the situation when you haven't got an aggressive neighbout . Education is the priority. But what does education mean when somebody ruins you . 
Education. Though given the choice, I'd spend half on education and spend half on stopping people from starving over in Africa. I hate the whole 'we want peace so lets start a war' thing.
Don't spend lives, save lives!
Don't spend lives, save lives!
I agree with you. Education, is very important. Through it depends on the situation when you haven't got an aggressive neighbout . Education is the priority.
I agree with you all. But if i were president... firstly i would destroy all other countries, and after i would spent it for education.
Education of cos. Hope for the future. Opens up new perspective and create new possibilities.
I would definately choose education. I am morally opposed to war, especially if the war was started for stupid reasons. Plus I think education is very important. Especially in teens and children. There's too much pop-culture right now. We arn't going anywhere. There needs to be more free thinkers, and leaders. Right now we have to many followers, and they are following people who don't really care about anything but money(i.e. rap stars, public icons, etc). I think education is something that needs to be stressed. We have an army to defend us, unless someone declares war on us, we really don't need to spend any more money on it (in my oppinion terrorists never declared war. They don't intend to fight us or settle anything. They just like to blow things up)
I would spend the billion dollars on education, and not the educating of how to kill either.
1/6 of the total money spend is on military... when noone, no country is a threat. does this sound like the soviot union to you or communist china... Really, they are probally just trying to develop stronger weapons.
of course education man..we are not bush and his battle spporters
one U.S billion dollars or one English billion dollars?, because one billion U.S dollars isn't much, the government get more than that easly in tax, but anyway if I had to spend one English billion 
, on one department, I would also hhave to say education, if you educate people now when it is their generationg in power they will be more prepared and more educated so that they will have more experiance of what to do in the future.
, on one department, I would also hhave to say education, if you educate people now when it is their generationg in power they will be more prepared and more educated so that they will have more experiance of what to do in the future.| Piotrek wrote: |
| I agree with you all. But if i were president... firstly i would destroy all other countries, and after i would spent it for education. |
That's what they're doing already. Yup killing thousands of innocent children and their families SURE IS FUN.
I would call you something but I'm sure it would get me banned.
| Grimboy wrote: | ||
That's what they're doing already. Yup killing thousands of innocent children and their families SURE IS FUN. I would call you something but I'm sure it would get me banned. |
They're destroying all other countries?
Who is?
Damn! I must have missed that on CBS last nite!
They're killing thousands of innocent women and children?
Who is?
Oh, you must be talking about the terrorists. Yes, you're correct, the terrorists DO target women and children. And they ARE trying to destroy all other countries...
Well, not ALL other countries, only the ones that don't convert to radical islam.
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Oh, BTW, I choose war for this country. These are dangerous times. Education is not critical to our survival right now, except educating the public about the real and valid threat of global terrorism. Education is not great, but it's not collapsing. Yet.
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Education SURE
In Education because war is no solution! NO WAR!!!! 
| Anti-Camper wrote: |
| In Education because war is no solution! NO WAR!!!! |
Surrender is a solution?
| OnlyOneLife wrote: |
| 1/6 of the total money spend is on military... when noone, no country is a threat. does this sound like the soviot union to you or communist china... Really, they are probally just trying to develop stronger weapons. |
You still need to train an army for a just incase just because america is the second (first debatable but I think the first would be china anyway,) doesn't mean you stop training your army stop edveloping arms stop the manufacture of arms and ammunition does it?, you have to keep it all up even in peace time.
| OnlyOneLife wrote: |
| 1/6 of the total money spend is on military... when noone, no country is a threat. does this sound like the soviot union to you or communist china... Really, they are probally just trying to develop stronger weapons. |
Then what happens when war actually comes? You won't be very prepared.
| Piotrek wrote: |
| I agree with you all. But if i were president... firstly i would destroy all other countries, and after i would spent it for education. |
Destroying other countries would mean World War III, and that would mean near-extinction of man-kind, probably---I don't want you being president!
| S3nd K3ys wrote: | ||
Surrender is a solution? |
S3nd K3ys, have you never thought of the fact that real extremists/terrorists actally want war? Have you ever seen terrorists demonstrating for peace?
They want to destroy our civilization; values like freedom, democracy, education and peace. They want to replace them with terror, war, extremism and dictature.
So what did you do?
-Made the Patriot Act to reduce that freedom.
-Replaced (funds for) education by (funds for) war.
-Replaced the peace by the war in Iraq.
Ok, you did bring democracy into Iraq but it will last till a few years after your troops leave that country. Democracy simply can't be forced to people, it has to come from the people themselves in order to work. Of course I would be glad if the opposite would be proven in this case.
I remember you having a picture of New York in your signature with the city filled with both American and Arabian buildings, including the Taj Mahal. This is the opposite of what terrorists want. Terrorists want New York to be a big Ground Zero, caused by a few atomic bombs killing millions of people.
If a so-called terrorist would build the Taj Mahal (often called one of the modern world wonders) in my city, I would rather build him a statue instead of calling him a terrorist.
| criticaldensity wrote: |
| You are the president, you have 1 billion dollars and it must be spent ONE way. Where would you spend it?
Id say education, build more schools. |
no brainer... education obviously... its the only way you can correct half of the worlds problems
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S3nd K3ys, have you never thought of the fact that real extremists/terrorists actally want war? Have you ever seen terrorists demonstrating for peace? They want to destroy our civilization; values like freedom, democracy, education and peace. They want to replace them with terror, war, extremism and dictature. So what did you do? -Made the Patriot Act to reduce that freedom. -Replaced (funds for) education by (funds for) war. -Replaced the peace by the war in Iraq. |
The Patriot Act does very little to 'reduce that freedom' when compared to the lives it will save, (and likely already has in the form of terrorists plots in the US since 9/11, or lack there of).
We have not taken funds from education for this war. In fact, funding for education has gone UP by over 1 billion dollars this year in Ca alone.
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Ok, you did bring democracy into Iraq but it will last till a few years after your troops leave that country. Democracy simply can't be forced to people, it has to come from the people themselves in order to work. Of course I would be glad if the opposite would be proven in this case. I remember you having a picture of New York in your signature with the city filled with both American and Arabian buildings, including the Taj Mahal. This is the opposite of what terrorists want. Terrorists want New York to be a big Ground Zero, caused by a few atomic bombs killing millions of people. If a so-called terrorist would build the Taj Mahal (often called one of the modern world wonders) in my city, I would rather build him a statue instead of calling him a terrorist. |
From what I've seen, the people in Iraq (at least WELL OVER 95% of them) want democracy. They just can't defend themselves long enough to get it together. That's what we're doing there. Hopefully, it will last as it has in other countries.
Do you honestly believe that the terrorists would destroy this continent and leave it? Not a chance. They are trying to conquer it from the inside. To take it over. To 'convert' us. They will destroy what they need to destroy to do the job, but they will use what they don't have to destroy.
i would say split it evenly
well actually what would be the smartest thing to do is not invest in education or war, but broadband. The reason for this is the transfer of information. If we had a government program that would bring broadband to the masses the transfer of information becomes higher. When more information gets passed through systems students learn at a faster rate. South Korea has been doing this for the last 10 years and their education there is the best in the world.
Fortunately the issue is a bit more complicated than that ^L*
With (in my view) the threat to the US being GREATLY exaggerated for reasons other than the well-being of the american people, its my belief that the most important issue would be to erraticate the poverty wich still is of considerable size. According to various government sources its a number between 20-30 million americans.
I must agree that the problem of terrorists has surged of late, however it seems to be used by the powers that be for purposes of manipulation, more than a realistic effort to change what really is wrong.
I must agree with K3ys that surrender is not on the ticket (I think thats where K3ys is=) ) and in my opinion thugs must be stopped but I have no room for manipulation.
So fighting poverty is my choise (worldwide). The resent decisions of letting the poorest contries in the world forget their debt is a very positive first step.
With (in my view) the threat to the US being GREATLY exaggerated for reasons other than the well-being of the american people, its my belief that the most important issue would be to erraticate the poverty wich still is of considerable size. According to various government sources its a number between 20-30 million americans.
I must agree that the problem of terrorists has surged of late, however it seems to be used by the powers that be for purposes of manipulation, more than a realistic effort to change what really is wrong.
I must agree with K3ys that surrender is not on the ticket (I think thats where K3ys is=) ) and in my opinion thugs must be stopped but I have no room for manipulation.
So fighting poverty is my choise (worldwide). The resent decisions of letting the poorest contries in the world forget their debt is a very positive first step.
| planet wrote: |
| the threat to the US being GREATLY exaggerated. |
Um.
Yeah.
It's not just the US.
Perhaps you've been gone the last 7 or 8 hundred years? Maybe just the last 40 or 50??
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IS the definition of Peace include mass killings of political and culturally difference? Would that Definition include corrupting the Oil for Food Program at the expense of 90,000 deaths per years caused by UN sanctions levied for not allowing inspections per UN resolutions?
Would that Definition include firing upon UN sanctioned no fly zone patrol aircraft. Would it include executing nearly a dozen US Covert Ops in Northern Iraq after a mole messed up? Would that definition also include the words Jihad and Slaughtering the Infidels?
I think the media does a good job of <b>not</b>letting the message of the Iraqi people being heard over the message of the terrorists.
As far as history goes, Freedom has always been purchased with the blood of those who sacrificed peace as a means to an end.
How many know Clinton wanted to Invade Iraq but wouldn't because the people would not support it. While Bill seemed like a nice and smooth guy, he was as intolerant of cocky dictators as anyone in history. He bombed Iraq nearly daily for 8 years at the same time as wars in Kosovo.
Lets not forget military "actions" in Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghan, and Sudan. All of them unauthorized actions according to the constitution.
If we want education, it must be in areas that will improve the religiously oppressed in countries run by dictators. Which is what the war is about. Once people are allowed to go back to school and learn we just might see people capable of doing what made Iraq an amazing place in the past.
You can't build the Taj Mahal after killing the designer, imprisoning his family and using his bank account for extending the Al Samoud II target range.
These are facts even though I disagree with how the War in Iraq is being waged. But that is mainly the fault of Tenet.
Peace,
Atomic
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| -Replaced the peace by the war in Iraq.
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IS the definition of Peace include mass killings of political and culturally difference? Would that Definition include corrupting the Oil for Food Program at the expense of 90,000 deaths per years caused by UN sanctions levied for not allowing inspections per UN resolutions?
Would that Definition include firing upon UN sanctioned no fly zone patrol aircraft. Would it include executing nearly a dozen US Covert Ops in Northern Iraq after a mole messed up? Would that definition also include the words Jihad and Slaughtering the Infidels?
I think the media does a good job of <b>not</b>letting the message of the Iraqi people being heard over the message of the terrorists.
As far as history goes, Freedom has always been purchased with the blood of those who sacrificed peace as a means to an end.
How many know Clinton wanted to Invade Iraq but wouldn't because the people would not support it. While Bill seemed like a nice and smooth guy, he was as intolerant of cocky dictators as anyone in history. He bombed Iraq nearly daily for 8 years at the same time as wars in Kosovo.
Lets not forget military "actions" in Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghan, and Sudan. All of them unauthorized actions according to the constitution.
If we want education, it must be in areas that will improve the religiously oppressed in countries run by dictators. Which is what the war is about. Once people are allowed to go back to school and learn we just might see people capable of doing what made Iraq an amazing place in the past.
You can't build the Taj Mahal after killing the designer, imprisoning his family and using his bank account for extending the Al Samoud II target range.
These are facts even though I disagree with how the War in Iraq is being waged. But that is mainly the fault of Tenet.
Peace,
Atomic
Both ... education about weapons. You give a man a weapon and he can kill for a day,but teach a man to make weapons, and he can kill for a lifetime.
Seriously, as someone who has actually served in a war, only mad men actually WANT to fight a war. However, until Mankind advances enough to stop getting into wars, we have to be prepared to fight them.
Any sane person wants peace, however pacifism doesn't work because there will always be agressors out there, and someone always has to be prepared to stop them. That is simply human nature ... unfortunately.
I wish that we could have peace ... just peace ... but unfortunately what we do have is peace through superior firepower.
Seriously, as someone who has actually served in a war, only mad men actually WANT to fight a war. However, until Mankind advances enough to stop getting into wars, we have to be prepared to fight them.
Any sane person wants peace, however pacifism doesn't work because there will always be agressors out there, and someone always has to be prepared to stop them. That is simply human nature ... unfortunately.
I wish that we could have peace ... just peace ... but unfortunately what we do have is peace through superior firepower.
well honestly both of them are priorities.. beacuse if we don spend money on war .. we gonna die or the country would be on horribles conditios.. and also education is very important.. cuz without education i think almost everybody would be dumb.. so its really hard to choose... 
If it was black and white, one or the other - I'd say Education all the way
heck I'd proabably say that if it was gray (lol)
but I'd say GLOBAL education... then everyone would be smart enough to realize how useless and destructive war is. They'd also realize oil dependence isn't very smart and and they'd figure out ways to feed the masses, and balance budgets, and communicate effectively (without need of violence), and have all countries prosper so that no one needs to accuse someone else, and so much more...
Yes, my bet would be on education.
heck I'd proabably say that if it was gray (lol)
but I'd say GLOBAL education... then everyone would be smart enough to realize how useless and destructive war is. They'd also realize oil dependence isn't very smart and and they'd figure out ways to feed the masses, and balance budgets, and communicate effectively (without need of violence), and have all countries prosper so that no one needs to accuse someone else, and so much more...
Yes, my bet would be on education.
Nah contrary to popular belief I've been here on Mother Earth =)
However I've had my eyes and ears open towards all corners of the earth (as in news feeds in 9 different languages).
I will never belittle, accept or condone the acts of inhumanity terrorist murderers have done to the US and never forget all the good the US h a s done in the world and is still doing on a daily basis, as I have too much love towards the country and its people. But that having been said, that does NOT in my eyes take away my sense of realism.
There is at the moment a wind with the smell of "Macarthy'ism" blowing out from the White House and a lack of understanding for the thoughts and feelings of other peoples and their religions in this world which does not further neither the interests of the US nor the quest for a more peacefull world in general.
I have for years lived in different countries where acts of terrorism were a fact of daily life and thereby learned of the dangers of "mass hysteria" and how to live with it.
But one fact still remains,,,, ridding the world of some of its poverty is the safest bet for peace
V =)
However I've had my eyes and ears open towards all corners of the earth (as in news feeds in 9 different languages).
I will never belittle, accept or condone the acts of inhumanity terrorist murderers have done to the US and never forget all the good the US h a s done in the world and is still doing on a daily basis, as I have too much love towards the country and its people. But that having been said, that does NOT in my eyes take away my sense of realism.
There is at the moment a wind with the smell of "Macarthy'ism" blowing out from the White House and a lack of understanding for the thoughts and feelings of other peoples and their religions in this world which does not further neither the interests of the US nor the quest for a more peacefull world in general.
I have for years lived in different countries where acts of terrorism were a fact of daily life and thereby learned of the dangers of "mass hysteria" and how to live with it.
But one fact still remains,,,, ridding the world of some of its poverty is the safest bet for peace
V =)
education is much more important then war...and war costs much more then education 
Plato said that a government that does not spend on education is bent on corruption and headed to ruin.
An under educated mass is less likely to recognize incompetance in office.
You have to have someone smart enough to program the smart missiles. Out sourcing this ay result in the missiles being aimed at you!!!
An under educated mass is less likely to recognize incompetance in office.
You have to have someone smart enough to program the smart missiles. Out sourcing this ay result in the missiles being aimed at you!!!
As long as the bomb (and the trickerhappy mofo) is smart enough, I'm ok.
i'll say war-if ther's any hostile neighbor-the country shell finish him,after the war there will be more money than 1 milion-cause we'll take control over the loser's money,and then it could be spend on education 
smart or not!? 
smart or not!? education--- so i can raise a war with those super educated people...hehe..
Obvious for education. I am totally against the use of the money to war. But I think also war helps to develop new technology, so you have to use some money in the war also. If there is a need in education, the country have to forget the war 
| Piotrek wrote: |
| I agree with you all. But if i were president... firstly i would destroy all other countries, and after i would spent it for education. |
Nah I'd just destroy all instances of liberalism and fund homeschooling
I think that im gonna go for the education because war is bad
Definitley education - it is the top priority!!!
Then again, if my country was under threat & actually needed the protection I would spend it the other way...
I mean, What good are educated workers - when they're dead
Then again, if my country was under threat & actually needed the protection I would spend it the other way...
I mean, What good are educated workers - when they're dead
| vazdecarvalho wrote: |
| I am totally against the use of the money to war. ... you have to use some money in the war also. |
Explain your understanding of "totally", please.
| mikecoyne83 wrote: |
| the smartest thing to do is not invest in education |
yeah, that sounds smart.
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| If we had a government program that would bring broadband to the masses |
Somebody would have to pay for it. Who's gonna pay in your utopia?
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| When more information gets passed through systems students learn at a faster rate |
Aren't you confusing "do" with "could"?
| Bondings wrote: | ||||
S3nd K3ys, have you never thought of the fact that real extremists/terrorists actally want war? Have you ever seen terrorists demonstrating for peace? |
Yes, there's galleries full of them taken by the people who run:
http://ProtestWarrior.com
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| They want to destroy our civilization; values like freedom, democracy, education and peace. They want to replace them with terror, war, extremism and dictature. |
Actually if we're talking jihad the replacements are :
- pure fascism (allah's theocracy)
- zero dignity
- ignorance
- uniformity
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| -Made the Patriot Act to reduce that freedom. |
uh huh.. how exactly did that happen? Please be aware that MOST of the laws contained in the patriot act were already on the books.
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| -Replaced (funds for) education by (funds for) war. |
nope we just spend more on war. we still (collectively) waste money on public education.. an increasing amount anually.
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| -Replaced the peace by the war in Iraq. |
Ahh yes the quiet of submission in fear. Is that the peace you wish we all had a share in?
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| Democracy simply can't be forced to people, |
True. But socialism, the precursor to fascism, as well as tribal warmongering CAN be stomped out.
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| Terrorists want New York to be a big Ground Zero, caused by a few atomic bombs killing millions of people. |
Islamofascists want the same thing today that they've always wanted: world domination. A wolrd of allah only; death to jews, Christians, buddists, and all other non-islamists
Covert or die.. neither are valid choices for me.
... as compromise is patently NOT possible ... what would you suggest?
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| well actually what would be the smartest thing to do is not invest in education or war, but broadband. The reason for this is the transfer of information. If we had a government program that would bring broadband to the masses the transfer of information becomes higher. When more information gets passed through systems students learn at a faster rate. South Korea has been doing this for the last 10 years and their education there is the best in the world. |
Yeah, but you're assuming that people would actually use it to educate themselves. Give most people broadband, and they'll ONLY use it to surf for porn!!!
Look at TV. There are some good educational programs on TV, yet most people blow right by PBS looking for Springer or Reality-Show-Du-Jour. |