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deanhills
Wonderful! Bondings, people are posting more. The coins are working. Totally worth it. Why I am happy is that I've had the million posting mark in view for almost two years now, and maybe we will get to it sooner now. Good stuff!

Is this for real, can you see it in the stats as well? Smile

Would be awesome if we could get a post meter of sorts saying X postings to go to 1 million. For an official Frihost countdown.
Nemesis234
not sure you can judge results in such a short time-scale of literally 2-3 days. Im not even sure there has been a big increase in postings.
deanhills
Nemesis234 wrote:
not sure you can judge results in such a short time-scale of literally 2-3 days. Im not even sure there has been a big increase in postings.
You're right of course. Would be nice if we could see some statistics as that would be more definitive proof, but in the meanwhile I'm seeing points that are usually below 45, or even below zero, that have not been over 45 for a very long time, making it over 45 and even getting into the fifties. Great stuff! Dancing
Ghost900
If posting goes up then there will be more posts for me to comment on. Would be interesting to see the statistics of posts of a before and after of the daily post counts.
Ankhanu
I don't even know what the coins are about Razz
Hasn't impacted my posting at all.
timothymartin
I guess that I am not seeing an increase of posts. Maybe its the kind of posts. I do click on a lot of threads that have been dead for a while, sometimes years. Or I see the really big/long posts by a few regulars. I wonder why that this forum, having been around, isnt getting the traffic/posts that some others are out there. Maybe its the people its marketed to? Maybe its a search engine thing? But arent forums super seo friendly? So what is it? I am confused.
loyal
deanhills wrote:
Wonderful! Bondings, people are posting more. The coins are working. Totally worth it. Why I am happy is that I've had the million posting mark in view for almost two years now, and maybe we will get to it sooner now. Good stuff!.


Excuse the noob question, but how do you know how many total posts there are?

Peace.
Nemesis234
loyal wrote:
deanhills wrote:
Wonderful! Bondings, people are posting more. The coins are working. Totally worth it. Why I am happy is that I've had the million posting mark in view for almost two years now, and maybe we will get to it sooner now. Good stuff!.


Excuse the noob question, but how do you know how many total posts there are?

Peace.

down bottom of index of forum

Our users have posted a total of 945142 articles
We have 68223 registered users

under the whos online header.
Helios
I think that it's too early to say... so hold your horses Dean Razz

Ankhanu, as a start - free domain names.

loyal, go to forum index, scroll down and you'll find "Our users have posted a total of 945143 articles".
945143 - number of posts so far.
Bluedoll
Think Deanhills meant he noticed a general increase in postings overall on the board and reflects tht in the official statistics. I agree with that overall finding. I was away from the board for a period and when I returned it seemed rather slow compared to what it was before. Always nice to see good posts.

Coins may be a good idea if they are managed properly and don’t deplete the banks resources. I suppose interesting ways to trade or move them around in all directions would create some kind of balance. The frihost economy.
deanhills
loyal wrote:
deanhills wrote:
Wonderful! Bondings, people are posting more. The coins are working. Totally worth it. Why I am happy is that I've had the million posting mark in view for almost two years now, and maybe we will get to it sooner now. Good stuff!.


Excuse the noob question, but how do you know how many total posts there are?

Peace.
The total posts appear at the bottom of the Index Page.
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Our users have posted a total of 945228 articles
The "articles" part of it could be misleading as we know those as postings.

Wish the stat could appear right at the top, better yet, maybe the "total posts" be linked to a stats page giving a breakdown on a yearly, monthly and daily basis. Smile
Bluedoll wrote:
Think Deanhills meant he noticed a general increase in postings overall on the board and reflects tht in the official statistics. I agree with that overall finding. I was away from the board for a period and when I returned it seemed rather slow compared to what it was before. Always nice to see good posts.

Coins may be a good idea if they are managed properly and don’t deplete the banks resources. I suppose interesting ways to trade or move them around in all directions would create some kind of balance. The frihost economy.
Thanks Bluedoll. I agree too. Always nice to see good posts. Nice to see you posting again.
Helios wrote:
I think that it's too early to say... so hold your horses Dean Razz
Would be nice to see some stats though .... probably should start logging it myself? I always thought stats were one of the most valuable assets of a Website?
nam_siddharth
Yes, there is an increase in posting. People got reason to post more. Even I have started posting more to reach the 45 points so that I can earn some coins.
Peterssidan
If the posting has increased we have still to see what happens in the long run. It could be that people are excited about something new, and when it's not new and exciting any more the posting goes back to normal.
We can hope that it's a permanent increase.
deanhills
Peterssidan wrote:
If the posting has increased we have still to see what happens in the long run. It could be that people are excited about something new, and when it's not new and exciting any more the posting goes back to normal.
We can hope that it's a permanent increase.
Good point Peterssidan. Helios' advice is probably very valid. Along "time will tell" lines. I'm of course hoping that people will post more, especially the ones who have been posting around zero or just above it for a long while. I'm hoping the coins will give them an incentive to go for a bit of extra effort.
Bluedoll
timothymartin wrote:
I guess that I am not seeing an increase of posts. Maybe its the kind of posts. I do click on a lot of threads that have been dead for a while, sometimes years. Or I see the really big/long posts by a few regulars. I wonder why that this forum, having been around, isnt getting the traffic/posts that some others are out there. Maybe its the people its marketed to? Maybe its a search engine thing? But arent forums super seo friendly? So what is it? I am confused.


I know stats are one thing and realities are another. It kind of raises a question in my mind, if the goal (of who?) is to get more traffic, hold on to the members, or what ever the goal is and I am not quiet sure about that part but if the idea is to improve membership from some standpoint should not the word community come into play and not just coins and search engines? Just a question to anyone.
Confused
Bondings
I hope it did have an effect. However a part of it might be due to watersoul posting almost 50 points during the last 2 days. I think he had about -200 points and he's now already over 45. Wink

About the statistics, it's something I've been intending to make (mostly for myself) for quite a while now. The statistics are based on the search database, hence only represent public posts and with a delay of (currently) a few hours. I created a simple version of it for now, I might add some fancy versions using the Google statistics thingy.

http://www.frihost.com/search/post_statistics.php

@Bluedoll, the goal of me is to increase the activity of users and hopefully also the quality of the posts. And having more posts and better ones would benefit everyone, I think.

By the way, I'm hoping that the upcoming competitions will result in some interesting new topics to discuss and read.
watersoul
Bondings wrote:
I hope it did have an effect. However a part of it might be due to watersoul posting almost 50 points during the last 2 days. I think he had about -200 points and he's now already over 45. Wink


Embarassed I know, I've been on a bit of a keyboard dance fest.

I had to get back in credit and I didn't want to lamely ask for the new reset option as the deal I signed up to was "post and get a free host", but I'd been doing other things and had no excuse like "no net access" etc, so felt I had to make the effort myself.
I do honestly try to make every post worth reading though, even while points-chasing!

I do hope more people get into posting more, I love some of the discussions here and as the forum isn't focussed in a specialist niche genre, it covers most bits of life, so theres always something interesting to find.
Bluedoll
I am all for posting! I enjoy and get something out of the forum, reading topics does gets the brain in gear and posting, pushes the pedal for me, so it is working. Learning is available too on the road I am traveling.

Frihost.com might be like a home base driveway for me, as it is also a place to put a web site (hangs head in shame, really need to address that so maybe I will be posting less for a little while) and coins even, very cool idea, hope it works out!

@watersoul no need for the red face I think, your posts are cool. Define cool?

@Bondings, thanks for the insight, good goal, can make it mine too, sure why not!
Ghost Rider103
Bondings wrote:
I hope it did have an effect. However a part of it might be due to watersoul posting almost 50 points during the last 2 days. I think he had about -200 points and he's now already over 45. Wink

About the statistics, it's something I've been intending to make (mostly for myself) for quite a while now. The statistics are based on the search database, hence only represent public posts and with a delay of (currently) a few hours. I created a simple version of it for now, I might add some fancy versions using the Google statistics thingy.

http://www.frihost.com/search/post_statistics.php

@Bluedoll, the goal of me is to increase the activity of users and hopefully also the quality of the posts. And having more posts and better ones would benefit everyone, I think.

By the way, I'm hoping that the upcoming competitions will result in some interesting new topics to discuss and read.


Thanks for posting that link. It's interesting to see how our stats have been over the years.

I thought I've been noticing a drop in posting (before coins were added) and judging by the statistics you posted, it looks like I was correct.

But I've now noticed an increase in posting already, which I believe is due to the new invention of the coins. Can't wait to see those stats now increase.
Bondings
I added some graphics to the page. The left side is the most recent data.
Blaster
That is a pretty neat set of statistics... When I came in you saw the big shoot in posting... Thats when you had some really big posters that were posting a lot each day.

Still pretty cool to see though. Its quite interesting.
ankitdatashn
Long way to go for me!, pretty inactive for past month, was engrossed in all sorts of things so forgot my pal Frihost... but now back to business fellas! Smile
standready
Bondings, thanks for the statistics! Alright group, October 1st, can we make this record month?
Ghost Rider103
That would be a hell of a lot of posting to make it an all-time record. We would have to post more than 32,000 posts for just the month of October. That would be great if we could.

It would put us fairly close to hitting the one million posting mark, which seems to be taking forever to get to. I give it another 5 or 6 months before we get there.
ProwerBot
Bleh. My posting hasn't gone up (:
Bluedoll
ProwerBot wrote:
Bleh. My posting hasn't gone up (:
Why?

In speaking of coins, trading is an option I would favour. That may be another topic for the future, or has it been discussed, oh a search, perhaps is in order? Definitely, it would be of interest to have collection of coins for services rendered by frihost and perhaps even volunteerism by loyal members of frihost to donate to this general cause. - that I think is called community building

no charge for progressive thoughts rendered

Rolling Eyes
truespeed
Those stats are quite revealing,for a period of about 12 months throughout the end of 2005 through 2006 ,frihost was averaging nearly30.000 posts a month,yet now its down to about 4500 posts a month,quite a drop,still busy compared to other forums though,my forum for instance has only had 28.000 total in about 3 years.

Any idea for reasons for the drop?
deanhills
Bondings wrote:
I added some graphics to the page. The left side is the most recent data.
Thanks for the info Bondings. That was right on and exactly what I was hoping for. I did a quick Chart in Excel:

truespeed wrote:
Those stats are quite revealing,for a period of about 12 months throughout the end of 2005 through 2006 ,frihost was averaging nearly30.000 posts a month,yet now its down to about 4500 posts a month,quite a drop,still busy compared to other forums though,my forum for instance has only had 28.000 total in about 3 years.

Any idea for reasons for the drop?
Good point Truespeed. Can't help but think that Bluedoll has a good point with regard to a "sense of community". I was not around during the bumper postings period, but a few months ago when I was reading through postings in the Philosophy and Religion Forum when the Philosopher Princess was still around (2006), it was amazing how she was able to inspire ALL posters, whether experienced or inexperienced. She also seemed to have the knack of attracting really quality posters as well. Perhaps we need people of her character, who are very much focussed on getting the best out of all posters (not only the best our of a select group of posters) with a great sense of humour and fun.

In my opinion the only real sense of community in Frihost currently is that among the Moderators and regretfully it seems to have become quite insular with lots of "us" and "them" speak. This is a small and recent example of what I mean about the "us" (moderator) vs. "them" "speak". It was posted in the Announcements and Rules Forum:
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amended copyright notice at the end to read 2010 instead of 2008 (some smartass pointed it out in a pm)
That kind of cynical "speak" can't be very motivating for the morale of the troops!

I'm hoping for a revival with huge numbers. But then for that we would probably need moderators and posters who are excited, enthusiastic, motivated and gung-ho as they must have been during the big posting days.
truespeed
I wonder if its the facebook effect,perhaps since the popularity of facebook, people have stopped sharing their opinions on forums with strangers and now share those same opinions with friends on facebook.

Maybe coins will increase activity for those who want free domains,but i agree with bluedoll,for coins to really work there needs to be a donate option and so opening up the marketplace and contests forums again.
deanhills
truespeed wrote:
I wonder if its the facebook affect,perhaps since the popularity of facebook, people have stopped sharing their opinions on forums with strangers and now share those same opinions with friends on facebook.

Maybe coins will increase activity for those who want free domains,but i agree with bluedoll,for coins to really work there needs to be a donate option and so opening up the marketplace and contests forums again.
Agreed. But we probably would need to do it one step at a time. Earn coins first!
truespeed
Off topic, but why is this topic not generating any similar topics?
deanhills
truespeed wrote:
Off topic, but why is this topic not generating any similar topics?
I'm not sure that I get it? Do you mean other topics like being enthusiastic and happy about increasing stats?
Bluedoll
truespeed wrote:
Off topic, but why is this topic not generating any similar topics?
Didn't get that either. Had to log off to see not topics on the bottom. Guess the search thing did not find anything related.
goutha
Your question is not clear.

But the lack of participation in different forums is a general trend...

Is this due to social networking? We are already writing alot, then adding to that our writing to frihost, it's maybe alot...
standready
Let me bump this back up to the top. Seems post are slipping, Deanhills. Don't tell me the excitement has wore off already. I was really hoping to see a month with 10,000 post. Thanks to Bondings for providing us with a great place to share alittle of ourselves.
deanhills
standready wrote:
Let me bump this back up to the top. Seems post are slipping, Deanhills. Don't tell me the excitement has wore off already. I was really hoping to see a month with 10,000 post. Thanks to Bondings for providing us with a great place to share alittle of ourselves.
I'm working on it Standready .... Smile
standready
deanhills wrote:
I'm working on it Standready .... Smile

I know you are! I think about half the post this month are yours! thumbs up! laugh. Wish I could find more time.
deanhills
standready wrote:
deanhills wrote:
I'm working on it Standready .... Smile

I know you are! I think about half the post this month are yours! thumbs up! laugh. Wish I could find more time.
More like one quarter me, one quarter Bikerman, one quarter Ocalhoun, and the balance everyone else ... I love Frihost ! Smile
Bluedoll
Life is a gamble perhaps posts could sky rocket and life would be beautiful. Then again they could fall flat on thier or do the roller coaster ride. I suppose we will just have to watch the rise and fall of . . . .
jds10912
sorry I havent been here in a long long time, I just came back looking for a logo done by the marketplace, but I'm just looking to find out if this change has done anything to the economy of the marketplace. By phasing out frih$, doesn't this mean that they are worthless (or at least, will become worthless very soon?) ?
Do people still want frih$?
Are people more dedicated to getting coins now that they're becoming the new currency?
Is someone going to make my logo?

So many questions, so little time. Embarassed
Bluedoll
jds10912 wrote:
sorry I havent been here in a long long time, I just came back looking for a logo done by the marketplace, but I'm just looking to find out if this change has done anything to the economy of the marketplace. By phasing out frih$, doesn't this mean that they are worthless (or at least, will become worthless very soon?) ?
Do people still want frih$?
Are people more dedicated to getting coins now that they're becoming the new currency?
Is someone going to make my logo?

So many questions, so little time. Embarassed
It is a point - the economy perhaps did take a dive - should someway be found to bring up the markplace so to make currency more valueable thereby even more incentive to increase interest of posteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' - of course there might have to be a frih$ tax? - these are only random thoughts Confused
deanhills
jds10912 wrote:
sorry I havent been here in a long long time, I just came back looking for a logo done by the marketplace, but I'm just looking to find out if this change has done anything to the economy of the marketplace. By phasing out frih$, doesn't this mean that they are worthless (or at least, will become worthless very soon?) ?
Do people still want frih$?
Are people more dedicated to getting coins now that they're becoming the new currency?
Is someone going to make my logo?

So many questions, so little time. Embarassed

If I were you, I will go ahead with placing your request for a logo in the marketplace. Bondings said in his Blog that the Frih$ is not going to end. Just the earning of Frih$, and not immediately but perhaps later. I'm sure he will announce it when the earning stops. But for now, go ahead. I'm sure the Market Forum will welcome a request for a logo.
Bondings wrote:
this isn't the end of Frih$. They will still be used for a lot of new things, like the games. Only the new earning of Frih$ will (most likely) be stopped.
Source: Bondings' Blog
truespeed
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October 2010: 6511


Coins seem to have upped the post count,Octobers post count was the highest since July 2009.
Ankhanu
Ankhanu wrote:
I don't even know what the coins are about Razz
Hasn't impacted my posting at all.


A month and a bit later... yeah, I've been posting a bit more with the coins, but not really. I don't go out of my way to post so that I'll get coins, but I have been checking back for replies a bit more often. The frequencies of visits have increased, but not my inclination to post, if that makes sense.
deanhills
truespeed wrote:
Quote:
October 2010: 6511


Coins seem to have upped the post count,Octobers post count was the highest since July 2009.
Just noticed it too. That is pretty awesome and encouraging. Just wish we could attract new members as well. Looks as though it is mostly the same people making much larger volumes of postings.
eneka38
Three hundred and fifty coins, that's a long way up. I am yet to get a single coin. I don't even know how to make lengthy posts to score more points. I just hope that I will not run out of things to post.
Bluedoll
eneka38 wrote:
Three hundred and fifty coins, that's a long way up. I am yet to get a single coin. I don't even know how to make lengthy posts to score more points. I just hope that I will not run out of things to post.
Just keep posting and see what happens? Don't give up. I am determined to start up a contest to give my gift certificate away. So there is another option for you.
Wink
Navigator
Can you guys believe I just found out about coins and free domains? Its been on since september, either way, this sounds like a very good idea Bondings! May I ask how more posting reflects on site earnings?
deanhills
Navigator wrote:
Can you guys believe I just found out about coins and free domains? Its been on since september, either way, this sounds like a very good idea Bondings! May I ask how more posting reflects on site earnings?
This is how Bondings is calculating the points for coins:
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They are calculated by the points above 45 (each day) to the power of 0.6. And the actual calculation might change later on. Maybe it's easier to give an example:
46 points: 1^0.6 = 1
48 points: 3^0.6 = 1.93318204
50 points: 5^0.6 = 2.6265278
55 points: 10^0.6 = 3.98107171
standready
standready wrote:
Let me bump this back up to the top. Seems post are slipping, Deanhills. Don't tell me the excitement has wore off already. I was really hoping to see a month with 10,000 post. Thanks to Bondings for providing us with a great place to share alittle of ourselves.

Let me 'bump' this topic again. Looking at the statistics that Bondings has provided: http://www.frihost.com/search/post_statistics.php it appears that posting is slipping once again. Most of us are inside more this time year due to cold weather. Are we all getting bored? I know I don't start many topics but I enjoy adding to existing topics and enjoy learning from fellow Frihosters.
watertube
it would be cool if they reached 10 mill post or more :p
deanhills
standready wrote:
Let me 'bump' this topic again. Looking at the statistics that Bondings has provided: http://www.frihost.com/search/post_statistics.php it appears that posting is slipping once again. Most of us are inside more this time year due to cold weather. Are we all getting bored? I know I don't start many topics but I enjoy adding to existing topics and enjoy learning from fellow Frihosters.
Thanks for bumping it up! I was going to look at it too, so we're on the same track of mind. January seemed to have been improving, and then there was just this awesome slump all of a sudden. I wonder whether Bondings' absence has something to do with it too. No energy. It always feels much more alive when he is around.
Aredon
Ankhanu wrote:
I don't even know what the coins are about Razz
Hasn't impacted my posting at all.

I'm going to have to agree with this. Unfortunately with my studies I've been quite busy, so it's rare that I get to swing by these boards and post. Let alone research what the new point system is. Confused

Perhaps that's a logical explanation for the post slip? I'm sure there are plenty of students on these boards.
standready
deanhills wrote:
so we're on the same track of mind.

Now that is very scary, Dean. Time you got off my track! laugh
deanhills
standready wrote:
Now that is very scary, Dean. Time you got off my track! laugh
Right! Maybe I should change track, and call it similar thinking! Very Happy
achowles
I've got the grand total of three coins, despite Frih$ 1595. I can't exactly say it's increased my posting at all. Especially not at the moment. Too many other things going on.
standready
Looking at February stats, the short month was a slow month. Posting down almost 25 percent from January.
Where is everybody????
deanhills
standready wrote:
Looking at February stats, the short month was a slow month. Posting down almost 25 percent from January.
Where is everybody????
My thoughts exactly! I'm particularly concerned about Bondings. Helios in the Suggestions Forum mentioned that Bondings may be ill. Hope he will be returning soon as we had worked up such a nice momentum with all his new initiatives, and it's almost as though all of it has come to a screeching halt!
ProwerBot
I haven't been here in a long time (hence why my points are -140) but i'm gonna start posting here again.
truespeed
Posts seem to be dropping off ,despite an initial increase in posts for the first couple of months after the domains for points announcement,the monthly post count is back to below 5000 a month again.
deanhills
truespeed wrote:
Posts seem to be dropping off ,despite an initial increase in posts for the first couple of months after the domains for points announcement,the monthly post count is back to below 5000 a month again.
The picture is however completely different when one compares September 2010 to April 2011 with September 2009 to April in 2010 on a month by month basis. There has been an increase in postings (13% average):

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April 2011: 4303
April 2010: 4430

Not completed yet

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March 2011: 4974
March 2010: 3791

31% increase in postings over last March

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February 2011: 4834
February 2010: 4154

16% increase in postings over last February

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January 2011: 6363
January 2010: 4780

33% increase in postings over last January

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December 2010: 5570
December 2009: 5299

5% increase in postings over last December

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November 2010: 6230
November 2009: 5325

16% increase in postings over last November

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October 2010: 6459
October 2009: 6193

4% increase in postings over last October

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September 2010: 5067
September 2009: 5460

4% decrease in postings over last September

The coin campaign, in terms of announcements etc. started in September last year. So there has been an improvement.

If one takes the average in percentages improvement on a month by month basis from September to March it has been 13% increase in postings over the same period of the previous year. Believe it or not! I surprised myself as well. Very Happy Dancing

How I got to 13% was to take the total of all the posts from September to March for the two years, and then calculate the difference as a percentage. We made 4495 more postings from September 2010 to March 2011 than from September 2009 to March 2010.

It does make sense however, as I know for a fact that I have increased my number of posts, and that usually happens naturally when there are more posts on the Board to comment on. For example, I used to post around 60 points average per day, and that has increased by 20 or more points per day. Bikerman also made some great contributions, particularly during January, and it was nice as I always like a buzz of posts going round. Very Happy

Source of Data: Bondings
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