Anyone here collect coins ? It has been one of my oldest hobbies. I collect local old coins. I think oldest coins I have are just 1000-800 years old. I heard in some European countries still they find over 1500 years old Roman Coins often.
Anyone here collect coins ? It has been one of my oldest hobbies. I collect local old coins. I think oldest coins I have are just 1000-800 years old. I heard in some European countries still they find over 1500 years old Roman Coins often.
I collect coins on frihost, I currently have 0. Does this count as well?
Wow, thats pretty cool, can you post any pics?
An 800+ year old coin?! Are you rich or just lucky?!
I don't have a metal detector and haven't the spare cash to buy old coins either, so I go for fossil hunting instead sometimes chasing the million+ year old treasures trapped in local limestone cliffs.
...I do have an "old" 1 penny and 50 pence from the year I was born though, found them in my change back along and keep them as things that have aged better than me!
i thought exactly that... ""just"" 800 years, it's worth a lot...
i have an coin from 1908, its the oldest one , but i'm not a collector, i just happen to have them
Well value of an old coin doesn't depends on its age. There are other more important factors.
1. Condition of the Coin. (if its in mint condition or hasn't damaged it worth more)
2. Rarity (Some old coins are rare and some coins are pretty common)
3. Metal (Silver and gold coins are worth more than copper coins most of the time)
4. Age (age matters only if the coin is very old)
Those older coins I have are copper coins and those are bit common so not much value on those.
Wow, just had a check and some aren't that expensive even from the 13th century...
...got me really interested now, I'd love an 800 yr old coin
*edit* And thanks for posting the topic dude, I'd never have known without reading it, always thought ancient coins would be beyond the reach of my salary!
Okey is one of my old coin. This is a Sri Lankan copper coin which was circulated around 1050 AD. This is pretty common coin So not rare or valuable. Yet its cool to have these old coins.
Yes. you can find old coins for very cheap price. Better check with your local shops and collectors because buying from place like Ebay can be risky. Sometimes you might get fake coins.
Dude, thats just complete "Wow!" for me!
Nearly a thousand years old, I'd love to have something like those, it's not the cash value of them to me, they're worth far more in my mind by imagining how many things were bought with them by however many different people over the years. Nice one
My sister is really interested in collecting coins, and I give her all the 'new' ones I find. She generally just collects Indian currencies(easiest to find), other than that if anyone ever goes to some other countries she takes some coins from them as well. Recently we went to singapore and got some Singapore dollars, other than that she has some european(my mom and dad once went for a european tour, long time back) coins, australian and egyptian ones..
Btw the picture of the coin, wow..!!
It always fascinate me these old coin. I mean how many people must had used them and these coins were used like 1000 years ago.
These days I'm collecting only local old coins and old coins of British Commonwealth. I have an interest in old Roman and Greek coins but they are hard to find.
Also I have few coins minted by United East India Company (Dutch). Those coins were used around in 1700's and they were called as Duit.
I used to have a vending machine and while operating it, I collected drummer boy quarters. I liked how unique they were and thought that someday, they might be worth something because they were so unique. Little did I know that eventually practically every quarter would have a unique image on it. sigh.
Well even those coins will have an value years after. But old coins are a different story. Older the coins get price goes higher bit by bit. Just like old stamps. I bought first old coin seven years old. Now the same coin cost twice as I paid for them seven years ago.
I collect coins as well *the real ones of course*
Well, to be honest it would probably be more appropriate to say "I collected", because since we moved to a new town the only way to keep in contact with my old club mates and with numismatics news or traders is over the Internet, the new town not having any club or community of this kind >.<
My oldest one is a 1721 coin, that I found myself about 10 years back xD
On a side note, if anyone invented teleporting anytime during my lifetime, it'd be a treat for me to go back to when a certain coin was "lost" or misplaced or buried, etc and see who, how, in what circumstances placed the coin there for me (or someone else to find* years or hundreds of years later xD
Good to see another coin collector ! Could you tell us little more about this 1721 coin ? A photo would be great too.
I collect Quarters (Canadian $0.25 coins), there are tons of different kinds out from various events.
Also I try to collect a set of coins from every country I travel to. (Only China, Canada, USA at this point)
I just Googled about world's oldest coin and found some interesting information about it.
The Lydian Lion coin is the oldest coin ever found or at least believed to be. The question of the world's the oldest coin, has long been debated and is still very much debated today. This coin was minted around 600 BC in Lydia, current day Turkey.
I have a few coins i got from my grandparents for a holiday once, not sure what they are but i guess i colllect them hehe.
Do you know how old are they or which country they were from ?
E-bay had soo many old coin for sale and auction. Lot of gold coins too. I saw some old local coins which I'm trying to not to bid.
i love this topic and that picture of the old coin gives me a time to look at my paper and coin collections anywhere in the world...i am still looking for it...unfortunately, i couldn't find it yet...i am hoping i will find it someday....i hope i haven't threw it years ago
Hope you will find your collection soon and safe. I lost my most of my bank notes because those were not properly stored. I was too young and didn't have money or knowledge to keep those safe. So Now I again collecting old bank notes again with a proper band note Album. Same about coins too, some old coins I had are no longer with me. I don't know what happened to those but probably misplaced.
Wow, those old coins are just amazing!! I have some old coins, from my country, and the oldest one I have is from 1905... I have around 50 coins in my collection, I know that I don't have a lot, but It'll be cool to have them in 50 years... some of my coins will have like 80 years old hahaha
That's cool you have 80 years old coins. Do do you any photos of those coins ? Any of those coins are silver ?
I have a few older coins - silver dollars, wheat pennys, bicentennial quarters. I occassionally find a wheat penny in my change from stores.
Just found a bag of coins from my various travels in Asia, none really old, but the ones from Laos are probably the most interesting if only because their currency is so absolutely worthless they don't even produce or use the coins anymore. I'll practice some macro shots with my camera tomorrow and post them up here if they come out OK.
...really loving this topic, and really got me wanting to find ancient coins now!
@ watersoul : Hope you will able to take those macor photos soon.
@ standready : I would love to see photos of those Silver dollar coins. If you can please take few photos and post here.
Yesterday I bought several old coins. This is one of those coins. Ceylon 50 cent silver coin, 1893.
I really like that
Couldn't find my Laos coins, and I'm really disappointed that I seem to have lost them, got loads of quite boring and common Malay Sen, and others, but the ones I really wanted to find (the no longer produced Laos coins) are missing.
I did find something unusual though (and I've no idea where I picked it up), a 20 Kopek Soviet coin from 1932, and I've never been near Russia!
*edit* Just did a search on 1932 Soviet history, and the year this coin was produced was a terrible year of famine in the Soviet Union:
...that has really made me wonder now about how many hungry (or privileged few) hands held this coin before it ended up in a plastic bag in my house 78 years later.
That coin looks pretty good for a used, 78 years old coin. First I thought it must be a gold coin !
I guess this coin values $5-$10 USD. I found online another Kopek coin around those times but this one is silver. E-bay has this coin for $29 + shipping.
Yeah, apologies for the colour, that's down to the lighting in my living room, guess I should have played with the white balance a bit first!
i have some old coins and historical paper notes. i hope they can be increased in value...haha..
old coins and bank note value increase with time just like old stamps. Could you tell us what coins and bank notes you have ? Photos would be great too.
oh,they are chinese coins and notes,but not too long history, i have posted on google,here is the site http://picasaweb.google.com/cinegodpic/Money#
hope their value increased!!
Thanks for coin photos Cliffer. That coin with hole looks pretty old. I hope too those will gain more value with time. Do you have coins only from China ?
I collect 1 cents. US and Canadian. I have alot of boubles and can trade if you are interested. I still missing rare canadian dates and alot of US ones.
Canada missing :
1860 1861 1862 1863 1864 1865 1866 1867 1868 1869
1870 1871 1872 1873 1874 1875 1876 1877 1878 1879
1880 1883 1885 1889 1891 1892 1894 1898 1922 1923
US Missing :
1880 1881 1882 1883 1884 1885 1886 1887 1888 1889
1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899
1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909
1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 1915 1916 1917 1918 1919
1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929
1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939
1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 1946 1947 1948 1949
1950 1951 1952 1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959
1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969
1995 2004 2009
Goutha, I don't have 1 cents Canadian and US coins. I might have few but those are way too new . But This topic will get visits from search engines and you might get lucky if another 1 cent coin collect spot this. Any photos of your collection ? Specially of those oldest 1 cent coins you have.
I'll post in the next days some pics of my oldest coins. Thanks dude_xyx
Looking forword to see photos of your coins. Also I have few old coins I bought which I should take photos and post Hope I will able to do it tomorrow.
i have coins most of from china. only a few from Germany,but i don't have photo in my current house.
I've got some old coins too, although I don't collect them.
Most coins are from the second world war period, with mostly coins from Germany (Deutsche Mark), France ('Republique FranÁaise - Libertť, ťgalitť et Fraternitť (1947), ťtat franÁais - travail famille patrie (1944)), Italy (Nothing special some coins from the seventies,...), England (nothing worth mentioning), Belgium (Yeah, I live in Belgium so nothing special here to, just some very coins ) and one weird coin with a hole in it. It's probably nothing worth, but it looks very old (discoloration (green and brown), most of the relief isn't there anymore,...) and the only thing I can read is '25 C^es'
EDIT: I found the coin...
Just a coin from 1927 so indeed nothing special. My coin is much worse condition though.
Hmm an interesting coin. I have seen Chinese and Indian coins with holes but not from Europe. What marks this coin has on other side ? So do you have coins which were minted in Nazi Germany at world war 2 ? Maybe those might worth something I think.
I used to collect different Canadian coins. It wasn't anything too serious, but it was just something small I could collect without becoming too obsessed with.
At one point, I amassed some 70 dollars worth (face value) in quarters and other small changes, but I've pretty much stopped now.
But those old coins are definitely interesting. I might consider starting my coin collection up again, and with more interesting to boot.
Well I found that picture online (my coin is in much worse condition) and this is the other side of the coin:
Although my coin is dated in 1925 if I read it correctly (you can barely see anything, all of the relief is gone).
I just in my coin collection for some coins dating back to the second world war but except for some french coins (1943, 1944) I couldn't find any coins. I do have some German coins but most of those coins were made in 1950 and 1970 (I do have 2 coins from 1949). So no coins from Nazi-Germany.
Well Yesterday I bought another coin. It's a 1 rupee Silver coin which was minted in 1835 . Coin is in good shape and did cost me $20. Seller said these are rare but can be bought for cheaper in India. I ll take photos and post tomorrow.
Ahh also I just found a bank note one of my friends sent me. It's from Germany and year is 1944.
i was so nice to see a topic on this kind. i am fascinated of coins and stamps before. i used to collect coins and paper bills all over the country but unfortunately, it was all gone when somebody robbed my bag.
@ Nigam : Why you didn't start it again ?
Here is the 1835 1 rupee Indian silver coin I bought last week. This is not my coin I found this photo online. Mine's quality is little less than this coins.
Coin collecting is a nice hobby
i'll probably check grandmothers house...i have heard from my mom that she has lots of coins....im so excited i don't know yet if it has still a value or not but anyways, it doesn't matter now as long as i can find it from there
Let us know if you find any coins there. It's always feel great to discover old coins and things like those rather than buying them.
Well, I pretty much prefer a bank note.
I do collect old bank notes too. but those are lot more expensive. I found one bank note from around 1944 which was printed in Nazi Germany !
Also I bought a tiny silver coin !
I was metal detecting near my apartment and found a 1798 Draped Bust large cent. It was pretty heavily corroded. I'm not sure of the rules on this site since I just joined, but if you're allowed to post links or even images with links I'd be glad to share it. It doesn't really make sense unless you get a pristine one next to it!
I was digging around in the muck when I signal that was very similar to a quarter. I don't really like digging where it's wet because it's hard to do and the coins are usually pretty damaged. Nonetheless. I gave it a go and ripped out a green coin. I was pretty sure it was a large cent, but when I got inside I was able to get a date off of it: 1798.
Aww that's cool. I would really like to have metal director my self but there are too many rules and restrictions about those in my country.
You can post images without a problem. There aren't any rules against it here (as far as I know). Just upload it one of those image hosting sites and then post the link in Img tags.
This is the coin I found. It's pretty worn, but you can read the date off of it. Click for larger image.
Here's the story from my blog:
I have my own collection of coins. I also like to collect books.
I'm using my hosting account to launch an online trade forum for coins, collectibles and antiques. The coolest part of the site is that it has a built in feedback system (much like ebay) to keep track of honest traders.
I'm still working out on getting the logo finalized, but I could use some additional BETA testers to help try out the posting on the site. If you're interested, let me know and I can send you the frihost link.
Hopefully I can accumulate enough coins to get a .com domain by the end of August!
Edit: It's up and running pre - .com domain! The Treasure Trade
Now I just need more coins (ba dumpa!) to get the .com domain.
That coin is totally ruined unfortunately. But yet has a sentimental value since you find it by your self. I wonder how long it has been buried under earth. Probably over 200 years ?
Your project sounds interesting. I ll join your site.
The coin is definitely ruined, but you'd be surprised at how many people want it. Which is cooler : A coin that has been sitting in someone's collection for 150 years (I guess that's cool) or one that has been sitting in mud near the edge of the woods, lost to human civilization for over 200 years? No contest.
dude_xyx really its good hobby to collect oldest coins but i am not like you but i have some oldest coins which my grandfather of father which times they used.
Sounds great. How about photos of those coins you have ?
I found a silver quarter while coin roll hunting today.
I also found 3 (!) United Arab Emirates coins the exact same size as a quarter. They didn't look like they had a date on them, which is sort of weird for a coin made in the modern era.
i am not，I like collect money
I stoped collecting coins. I treid collecting them but were really hhsrd to find original real ones.
Coin collection is an interesting hobby
Where do you live ? Normally it is pretty easy to find all kinds of coins also old coins. You can even buy old coins for cheap prices. I think finding coins is the fun part of coin collecting hobby. So even use metal detectors and comb beaches are dried river beds hunting for old lost coins.
i have the habbit to collect coins. for this,i specially buy a coin piggy-bank .until now ,i have collect about 1,000 yuan .
What do you mean by buy a coin piggy-bank ?
its my sister hobbies, and he did gain a lots of money from trading it.
You don't like collecting coins ? You mean she sell those coins or exchange coins with others ?
I want to try metal detection. I was told it's a fun way to find old lost coins.
Looking to see if you can find specific years on coins is about as far as I'll go.
My coin collection is not quite awesome, but I currently have all of the US state quarters.
Yeah, not very exciting compared to all this old and foreign coins. :O I'd be amazing to go around the world collecting coins as opposed to buying them online... though I think my Economics teacher does that.
I do have a little stash of interesting coins. Looking through it now. Well it's interesting to me anyway I doubt anything in here is rare. Gathered them from here and there since I was a kid.
A 1947 1 franc, some austrian currency, some greek, 58 two shilling, 1906 one shilling, napoleon the third coin (mid 19th~ date is worn), various other 50s coinage, some huge commemorative thing which I have to ID
Well I collected almost 80 Frihost Coins...!
It's really surprise me that you have 1000-800 years old coins... wow..! it's sound amazing...! Please upload photos with details of the old coins which you have...! (I mean the country and the value and material to make that coin) and don't forget to mention the oldest coin you have.. Personally, I really wanna see....!
I'll try to get more photos of my coins. I can find local copper coins which are 800-1000 without a problem and also for cheap. But it's hard to find silver coins and gold coins. Those are expensive and Good condition coins are very hard to find. I think the oldest silver coin I have is an small coin which is around 500 years old.
You can find 1000+ years old Roman coins in Ebay. You can buy Damaged coins for cheap still I think those are worth to have or add to your collection.
I had a little box full of roman coins but I lost them years ago.
me, i collect coins in frihost. This will be used for next year renewal on my given domain name from frihost..
But, my fathers buy and sell old coins because it has a high volume quantity of silver and it has a good money equivalent in the market.
Wow ! old Roman coins ? Too bad you lost those.
I collect Nelson Mandela Coins.
I hope some day they will be something worth.
Do any of you think they will be worth something?
I had lot of old coins, but when grew i hate that collection
These days I'm trying to find a local gold coin to buy. Those are very expensive so I want to find one which is real and affordable.
i have a bunch of some old coins lying around here, some of them come from the time before there came the Äuro - so no mor Schilling, Deutschmark, Lire, Franc, Pesetas etc, and also the coins from the new members of the EU will disappear. It's not that i'm against the euro, but somehow it's a shame to see this manifold disappear. Now the children use those coins to play with. i have also a bundle of bank notes of different countries, and i like them for their funny layouts - there are always lots of things to discover on an exotic paper money. last year a friend brought me a package of 'heaven and hell dollars' from china, where they burn this special 'money' at funerals, as a gift for the difunded, to help them on their way to the other side, he told me. very strange and exotic, indeed! maybe coins are not so rich in graphics, but the metal-materiality makes them the more special.
what's it all about those frihost coins, btw? how come there are some really frihost-rich people here? i can hardly keep my points around zero! that's like in real life, i guess!
I do not collect coins i Just inherited a coin collection from my family. I really wish I knew more about them. Mostly UK coins but there is also many coins from all over the world in there also.
That's cool. Maybe you can learn about coin collecting a bit do you can understand about this cool hobby. Also it can be very rewording one too.
i have a decent collection of coins, but none of them are rare or very old. i dont buy any coins, all have been collected by me, friends or family in our travels.
i think my oldest coin must be from 1920s.
follow this link to see some images of my coins: http://dharmindesai.com/numismatics
BTW: anyone know what a 10 pfennig german 1950 coin is worth?
I'm planing to buy some first day covers. I collect these and some of these first day covers are pretty hard to find. These days im hunting for a local first day cover which was about Whales. Very hard to find and probably expensive too. I bought one, years ago when I had no idea how valuable it is. Just bought it because it's beautiful and first time I saw it.
I had a really big coin collection probably worth tens of thousands (old 1800's silver dollars, and some real rares in there) when I was a kid, but some very bad stuff happened in my life around 1987, and ... well ... they were stolen.
Never really had the desire to pick it up again after that.
Oh that sux. But we have to start from where we stopped or fallen. I lost some of my stamps too those high value once. But then I started it all over again and now trying to make a better connection that I ever had.
I don't have this coin collection habit but I like to see old coins and developments trends of coins. Till now I haven't got chance to see the old coin like 800-1000 years old..! This is quite interesting hobby. If anybody have old coins if possible plz upload the picture of that coins, I will be really thankful to you..
I think I uploaded a photo of 900 years old coin I have. Old coins are not hard to find and also sometimes you can find for cheap too. If you check E-bay you can find over 1000 years old Romain coins for sale. Sometimes less than 50$. These coins are pretty badly damaged but still those are 1000 years old. You can find good quality coins too.
The only 'collecting' I've ever done is looking through coins that I get to see if I can find one minted this year.
It can take a while, especially depending on where in the year you are.
LOL this is what I was thinking, about the only coins I am collecting, though to be real. I do have a few Canada coins, Mexico coins and not sure what others. It isn't a lot, it is just a small amount I have came across.
Yeah coins.. I've been collecting coins for 35 years now. Nowadays every
- Dutch coin until 1814
- Jetons of the 80 years war
- All medieval coins
- Byzantine coins
- Roman coins
- Celt coins
Some of my favorite precious dear coins
Augustus, Denarius (Dutch find)
More of this period: http://www.lxgoodies.frihost.org/Muntenboek/subJulClaudE.html
Graaf Eduard van Arnhem, Groot
This medieval coin was found under the bridge over the river Waal, in Nijmegen. Nowadays it is worthless for most high-brow collectors, in this condition that is. Nevertheless it seems to me that recovering three seperate pieces of one and the same object after 700 years is sheer luck. Also this coin is -very- rare. Dutch large silver and gold pieces originating from these times were infact money for the lucky few. The man in the street was payed on a day-to-day basis, with small silver (Pennies)
Henry VI (1422-1466) Calais (Groat)
Henry VI of the house of York put little effort in keeping the Norman territories occupied. He married the Countess of Anjou, trading large parts of Normandy. The piece that Shakespeare wrote describes this king as a weak and snob youth, easily manipulated by stronger rivals like the Count of Gloucester.
According to the reverse, this coin was struck in VILLA CALISIE (Calais)
More medieval: http://www.lxgoodies.frihost.org/Muntenboek/subMedievE.html
The Durotriges were numbered among the few tribes of Celtic Britain which issued coinage, although unfortunately, none of the coins associated with the tribe bear inscriptions. Sadly, this means that we are left with no record of the names of any of the Dumnonian nobility.
The most important industry here, was the extraction and working of the Kimmeridge shale outcrops on the south coast, perhaps administrated from Wareham. Several small potteries were dotted around Poole Harbour, and another at Bager, near Sturminster Newton.
Villas are rare but there is a notable example at Frampton.
The first classical mention of the name for the Dorchester Roman settlement occurs in the Antonine Itinerary of the late second century. In Iter XV the station Durononvaria is listed 8 miles from Vindocladia (Badbury, Dorset) and 36 miles from Muridunum (nr. Honiton, Devon).
More Celt: http://www.lxgoodies.frihost.org/Muntenboek/subKeltenE.html
I've just uploaded all: http://www.lxgoodies.frihost.org/Muntenboek/mb1.html
The left column is English, the right one Dutch. Take the Dutch and translate for the most recent things. For some coins, a small is shown. This gives a popup with a larger picture.
Those are very awesome. What's the most you ever spent on a coin?
Celt one is my favourite
Hmm that is difficult to tell actually
In the Netherlands we had a money reform in 2002 introducing the Euro. I was collecting well before that time also.
The most expensive one would be Nero I guess (ca 200 Euro now)
Some coins I cannot estimate at all, because they are unique,
Antoninianus imitation, German-Romano
The Sol-reverse on this coin can be associated with Tetricus. The portrait is.. very peculiar for Europe. Coins like these were struck by tribes living near the Roman border. They got Romanized, that meant they adopted the Roman coin system and trade. Now when Rome's power deceased in the 3trd century, these regions became poorer and there were no "official" Roman coins anymore. The locals started to strike inferior money (bad silver) that had the emperors portrait. Only then, they were acceptable coins..
Pretty amazing those! Great hobby to have too.
That's a great Stamp collection you have LxGoodies ! I wish your site is in English ! Do you were doing metal detecting a lot ?
I should take photos of my coins too but mine are mostly between 1700 - 1950 .
Do you have any gold coins too ?
I don't collect stamps anymnore I collect coins only, before 1800
Some of my page IS in English actually, click the left column
.. but the Dutch side has much more text !
And gold (that is old gold coins) VERY expensive, alas ! yes, I've got ONE gold coin now
This is a gold guilder struck by Arnoud VII of Gelderland, ca 1340.
It is not on my page yet because I bought it last week. Because I quit smoking
Aww that's a nice gold coin ! How much did it cost you ?
I don't have gold coins yet. Only have one small silver coin which is around 500 years old. Every small Indian silver coin.
Ah I do have some copper VOC coins. From 1700's.
Hmm 200.. and India.. I don't collect the VOC (translate: United Colonialist Pigs hehe)
but I really like the Kushan coins, they date from the 1st to 3rd century, there was a large independent India at the time.. the bronze coins are often found in India and Pakistan, not rare, this is one of them I have, I've found it on e-bay 2005
Read all about it.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_Empire
I have some old english pennies my grand dad gave to me , but unfortunately they are not the rare ones, also my granddad gave me some WW2 hand mcasted bronze card Dice. Very cool.
That's a nice gold coin ,LxGoodies. I wonder how much does it worth since you mentioned it's an old and expensive coin. Also in very good condition too.
Kushan coin is a beauty too. A coin which is more than 1600 years old means a lot. You can find some nice offers like that in ebay time to time. I hesitate to buy coins and stamps from ebay because I know couple of guys who ended up with fakes.
Mwa Google for it
Yep, I know, but I also knew the guy who gave the tip to me (he sent me a mail "click there") so I trusted it. btw these coins are not so expensive, so the false ones are for tourists and can be easily recognized.
Ah you had someone advising you. Problem with buying online is you have no idea what you get till you receive it. Sometimes it can be fake or damaged than they have in photos. If it's cheap then returning wouldn't be cost effective either.
I'm not much of a professional coin collector, so nothing antique or rare, but I did start collecting quarters when the US Treasury began minting one for each state. I don't know where that collection is anymore though - I doubt I have all 50.
Success with your collection bluepig.. They look really beautiful designs,
.. see that you find them back, I would say.. check if you need any to complete the bunch.. now they are still affordable, but in 50-60 years it may become very interesting for collectors, in terms of value, as long as your set is complete that is !
Maybe buy yourself a metal detector and go find the older ones.. have you ever seen this quarter ?
That one will set you back.. only $ 67,240.00
The easiest way to collecting the Brazilian currency is the period that is the most accessible of the "Republic." Nothing is easier than you ask relatives, friends and so on. everyone has those pennies saved on some cans boxes, drawers, or even collect those coins are in circulation. As well as those to be issued hereafter. Choosing one of each type, choosing, too, the most beautiful on the condition and possibly without or with very little movement.
The coin to appear in a good collection should be much more perfect, the more common. Common currency that is easy to find, that everyone has, although not all currencies, even though common, easily found in perfect condition, especially coins that are no longer in circulation that were demonetised. It is important to tell at the outset that you should never clean the coins with the intention of making them beautiful, glossy, bright etc. to clean pans or silverware. If you can not find nice coins, leave in the collection that you have, even in the state where they are awaiting their turn to be replaced by a better one.
I have seen some people auctioning collections of US quarters at eBay time to time.
Funny thing about coin collecting is sometimes coins which are very older are cheaper than recent once. for example the coin LxGoodies posted is priced as $67,000 which you can find a 2000 years old Romain coin for around 500$ (one in good condition). Seems age as nothing to do with the price of a collectable coin.
I think it says something interesting about us that we tend to value the ones with mistakes. I mean, I understand why, essentially because they're rare, but it's just... unusual, that the fact that they have mistakes somehow doubles back on itself and become more valuable instead of less.
I have russian coins, interesting to check how much I can get for them in ebay. Also have paper money from that times.
Indeed. Collector would say "mistakes are rarer, so they are worth more". But if you look at it, these erroroneous pieces do not meet requirements. They should in fact be worth far less.. I don't know the explanation for this, but appearently it does not work like that. They are worth more. Mistakes are always interesting, especially if other people have made them ?
Yeah Me too a fan of old coins than error coins. It's fascinating to think how many people who had those must be long gone and How these coins could have passed one person to another.
Ok let's show a Roman double strike. An old coin.. with an error.
Below TWO coins of Gallienus (254-268AD) show a panther on the reverse and text LIBERO CONS.
The lower one is my version, only half a panther is seen.. and LIBERO twice.
This is a very rare example of a 180 degrees double strike Probably, the coin was struck twice, that is by 2 different people
Wow that's something interesting. Wonder what that had happened !
i stumbled over a huge banknote collection someone has online, which takes you to countries all over the world with very nice scans of the notes,
then i saw that he also has a huge coin-collection online... surprise...
maybe that could be interesting for someone in this thread? i hope i hasen't already been mentioned:
i have a lot of roman coins some have value others donít they dont just have value because they are old it depends of the imperator they have been done for
i also have thousands of coins 50% of the 100% new never been touched by any human
Thatís not an error at the time they didnít have the technologies we have today that kind of situation was very usual not in this days in this days a coin with that error can have huge value
I donít know how many coins I have not even care about it since my collection has begun at 300 or more years ago and Iím just one more , this collection will soon be from my son and them from my grandson or granddaughter and on and one till the end of the coins
That's great to have such a very old collection, zaxacongrejo... indeed people already collect Roman coins since the 16th century.. they are inherited and inherited and again inherited.. but it is very rare that these old collections are still completely intact. Do you stll have the original wooden coin-cabinet also ? Can you show some coins ?
Well, at the time the Romans knew perfectly well how to strike a good coin. In fact this was really an error. On the coin forums we talked about this piece and we now reconstruct that error as follows: normally, a coin is only struck once. in this case, the coin was struck twice. And between the two strikes, the coin hopped.. and turned 180 degrees. Even old Romans can make mistakes !
I have few Indian coins which my granny gave me.I have no interest in collecting coins , but still i have those coins as his remembarence . He just said "These coins are tresure of our family,its priceless,have it safe ".
Anyway now i am collecting frihost coins to register my domain .
hi i have everything the collection is meant to be a collection not just an hobby
so almost everything is untouched letís say I have very common 1 euro coins that I brought I donít remember the exact price but letís say for 10 euros, you know what Iím talking, Im referring to buy them from the ďfactoryĒ like collectors do with papers boxes certificates etc etc
About the roman coins my father itís very well known archeologist in Europe and USA
A kind of doctor Zahi Hawass if you know him
So I grow inside that subject rocks, coins, technologies, habits, etc roman coins because Iím Portuguese are very common around here ,the error hey if you say so I believe you Iím not an archeologist myself just like the subject
Today I will see my father and I will ask him about it, you know they had strange habits in what concerns to coins the use to cut and split them ,
About showing the collection or specific coins I canít because of security concerns and also because is not at my home, but at the bank, not sure if I can photograph inside a bank safe
Or even if it is recommended, I also have a lot of paper money shares etc.
We arenít looking for profits loll in 300 years we never sold a coin, or even care with how much we will earn thatís the exact problem, why you say so, because they only see money ,but lets open exception here to war zones , in those cases most of the time they disappear forever.
Letís share something with you, one of the most valuable coins a I have I brought it kind of for accident, I was In a yard sale an old lady had a box full of coins 99% trash but because it was an event a yard sale I had to buy something I brought that box, when I went home just I case I start to check them and there it was at the beginning we all thought this can only be a fake but guess what it wasnít ,anyway it wasnít a profit for me ,because archeologist like my father they donít really care with money so once he get the needed confirmations evaluations the coin has been given to a museum
But I also have coins that donít have value but I love them I remember a German coin I have
From 1933 I love that coin because of what she went through I wish she could talk
Do you have any World war 2 time, Third Reich Coin ? With those Eagle an stuff. I found couple of band notes of those times and no coins.
Yes i do, they are hard to find because they have been made in a special metal of war times (which i donít know the name) and i belive dont last much, i will also ask my father about that. They almost donít have any waste they feel like plastic coins a tip to find those coins is to buy old cloths and furniture from Poland
Nice yard sales there for Reich stuff
Hello Iím back with a hand full of news ok letís start for the roman coins
So first why do they used to split them?
Because when encomie went down and the money value also went down the only way they had to adjust.at the time was by split or just cut a little bit from specific coins
Splitting coins was also used for changes in trades
Now I have the bad notice for you unfortunately I was right
Yes the technic they used to use at the time was completely different from nowadays so that kind of error at the axis was quiet common 2 different errors from that time
Related to axis. Them I will try to explain more or less the differences between techniques
1st error is on the vertical axis the usual letís say the coin as 2 sides with the same head
In this cases we will observe 1 head up other down, but now you thinking thatís not an error thatís an well done coin ,in nowadays, yes, at the time no. you see they didnít use machines but hammers and casts 1 cast just , opposite to the 6/8 of nowadays
Second error it was at the horizontal axis because they were doing coins with 1 cast and 1 hammer
How do they do it? easy they build the negative cast first with a strong metal ,then they drop hot metal there wait for the cold and them with a hammer and a pricket they print the second face, so what use to happen was that they didnít really care ,or even for accident ,or no time, lots of reasons, when they it the pricker to print the second face the first cast was not well centered so there the ďerrorĒ
We now can see a lot of horizontal axis errors like that so when we speak of roman coins doesnít matter if they are from imperator a or b there are some exceptions (German roman lands) but not generalized
It doesnít matter the size or the error what really matters is the detail of the coin.
Now the Reich coins my father is not sure because he canít have the coin now to be sure but his guess is that they had been made with nickel
Now an adviser to the readers
PLEASE DONíT USE METAL DETECTORS YOU ARE DESTROING HISTORY
Let that to professionals- not metal detector processionals lol
Naa I don't collect these actually.. go Google for them, you will find plenty. They are not rare (cheap for collectors). There are millions of these Reichspfennige.. When a country makes war, inflation comes in.. so it needs a lot of coins. I personally don't think these are interesting (at all).. but of course, if you would like to collect them, feel free, they are not expensive and can be bought from many coin sellers/resellers.
Mostly you are right.. but errors are collected as special items, they are quite rare and expensive.
Just found another Roman double strike online which carries very much detail too.. maybe this one is more clear ! Alas, the coin is NOT in my collection..
Courtesy picture from ForumAncientCoins
(.. double post, this may be removed)
You are right but you know, the market I know is the official market from coins factories
Honestly is the first time I realize that there are coins on the internet loll I never search about it before.
Coins we have, had come from years of colleting, findings, expeditions all over the world, family, digging in houses, etc. (not important material we just keep what museums donít want)
But this can sometimes be important stuff for collectors
You know I had a lot of bad experiences with silver coins let me try to explain why. Sometimes, we find them I so bad shape we canít even touch them because they will become dust.
Or we find them under and over water letís say 100 all glued together
We take picks and thatís all. Looking to the right face of the coin a immediately recognize the figure I have coins with that figure
You'd be surprised ! There are millions of Roman coins on line. Sometimes I suspect there are more Roman coin potographs than actual Roman coins ( )
I'll give you some of my favorite "stamping grounds" for Roman coins, these are reference links..
and there are more.. actually my hobby is to attribute these coins, that is when these coins are found here in the Netherlands, with a metal detector, some people put them on my forum, I explain, that is: the date (years), the emperor, the reverse type, the reference.. Above list are actually my reference books. I don't need anything on paper, the internet has all (or virtually all..) Roman coins on line. And paper books about Roman coins are expensive.
Roman coins are important historic artifacts that should be well taken care of. I wonder what does the picture on the coin mean? These coins should be studied well to find out more about the Ancient Roman Empire. I wonder how did the Ancient Romans make coins without technology. What about collecting paper notes from other countries as well?
They used hammers and casts, 1 cast just and an hammer and a pricket
they build the negative cast first with a strong metal ,then they drop hot metal there wait for the cold and them with a hammer and a pricket they print the second face
Loll thanks lots of them I just searched ebay also ,even in eBay lots of them
Thatís the problem isnít it illegal there? I believe when people do that they all have the best intentions ,they all believe they are saving history etc. ,but they are wrong they are destroying history, and that historyís is not their property, it is (country/state/world) property it depends on we just find .
All artifacts have historical value when in their contest, so when someone for an hobby removes them from that contest he or she or both lol are destroying history, just imagine that one of those coins was the last trace from something much bigger that can only be revealed with an archeological expedition costing thousands of dollars when someone removes the coin
That trace is lost Iím not saying that will never be found again but it can take more 100 years till someone spot it again
Here is an example http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNCLEANED-ROMAN-COINS-FROM-THE-MIDDLE-EAST-AND-ISRAEL-10-PER-bidding-buying-/370697822630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564f4fe1a6
Yeah I think it's illegal to use metal detectors in many countries. Also doing any kind of diggings in known or unknown archeological sites is forbidden too. But you can do it in beach and river bends. I have seen couple of videos how to make simple metal detector using a calculator and 2 DVDs and earphone set. Worth trying.
I have seen so many auctions of uncleaned Roman coins at E-bay. Most are very badly damaged probably doesn't worth at all. Like in image below,
And it must be changing it in more actual words when doing so the person/s involved are deleting our species backup
Haha send me the link if you still have it , I believe itís a good way to get rid of old stuff
Cleaning a coin also implies abrasion in on way or another so you will probably end up with a round piece of metal
Anyway I just noticed eBay now I believe mostly are invaluable coins but in eBay you never know because anyone can use it and you have always the problem of trafficking, so you can be purchasing stolen coins, an find yourself inside some international organized crime network, I saw once a notice that Taliban use to stole graves to sell artifacts and the support war
Hmm a lot of Roman coins on e-bay are fakes
Here's a source for fakes
If you ever buy or wanna buy a coin on e-bay check that list first.
Else you may not be able to sell your coin again.
A good Roman coin is a sound investment, you can keep it for your pension. And it is beautiful to look at. Its history, the emperor behind it..
These coins on e-bay that are green and uncleaned.. like the above.. look out, such coins are mostly genuine but if they cannot be attributed, it may be 17th-18th century and NOT Roman... difficult to assign value anyway. Of course, if you know something about coins, you can go digging for treasures on e-bay ! trying to clean them.. but alas, most times "cleaning" doesn't do a good coin. It's just "cleaning".
And if you find hem with a metal detector.. don't put them on some online cowboy auction like e-bay. If you find them, handle them with care.. inform the archeologist of your municipality. Thats the Dutch rule.. Belguim.. French and English.. for German and Italian, you have to have a location license. Coin finds can also be attributed on line.
If people want to go out with an MD and they have permission of the land owner.. no problem. You also remove the other (nasty) metal objects, like military stuff.. land owners like that, because they want to put their crop there.. and dont wanna get machines damaged, etc. So it's a win win arrangement. Meanwhile, local archeologists await eagerly for people that put their find up for attribution. Coffee is served..
Thatís not so simple as just have permission of the land owner lol right please have a look
Good and proud archeologist that read this will blow lol
Wait for curious people ? Archeologist? We are probably speaking about different things here
What is an Archeologist at your country?
Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate treasure hunting, MD searchers have a responsbility. In the Netherlands an archeologist is the same as an archeologist anywhere else. That is someone who puts little flags on maps and, when he gets the chance and the little time window, maps and excavates for 2 weeks before the actual mess is made (that is they put a building on the spot and destroy it all)
dunno what your country is, where you come from.. but MD people are not the enemy, they can be "eyes and ears". Have a look here ,
This is the model that is used in GB atm, and the Netherlands are well underways to create websites like that as well. however, our government has not been so culture-friendly lately.. so there is very little funding for research. Dutch archeologists do welcome volunteers.. lots of these volunteers started out on MD. There is no witch hunt, the basis for that is mutual respect.
You have another experience ?
I knew we were speaking about different perspectives of the profession you see you seem to speak about city council archeologists yes those ones have a little job they went to places do a fast and sometimes dubious analyses collect what they want and then a building will pop up there.
Iím from Portugal we also have them here, they use to call my father when they need help
To understand or identify something, from our country and from other countries last time a answer one of that phone calls was from Italy someone asking from a book my father wrote in 1973, you see for me those ones see archeology as a job, and its truth is their job.
You see the ones I know like my father they arenít paid to work in archeology honestly my father is retired from the ministry of finance archeology is a passion (im not saying he isnít graduated)
You canít just call him and tell him hey come here analyze me this land, those things are out of question, but you can and you should call him if it is a big project, an ancient city, village, fort, etc , but there are exceptions truth, but most of the time what those city council archeologists find he already knew about that from decades loll thatís why they are always calling asking help loll
My way to see things.
the way Iíve been theatched since I born and when I was kid ,forces me to see things I bit further that just that, I believe I started to work in archeological expeditions with 5 years more or less not sure, since than Iíve see almost everything since our/species very beginning and Iíve also seen destruction a lot of it ,and most of the time caused for curious people looking for fast profit ,and here we can join paleontology, fossil hunt is also a big problem here, and isnít it better to go to a museum watch the cleaned peaceís in a contest ? Than find them at eBay?
You see Iíve grew surrounded by strange rocks and artifacts, pyramids of books all over the place, molds, black and white photography, bones, skulls, anything you can imagine, so now
My opinion on this MD subject is very radical loll they arenít professional so they should leave that to professionals, you can believe that those taggers that spot flags are doing a great job yes right, and it looks like but at least in Europe where we are ,thereís no more SURPRISES TO FIND
We probably didnít get that everything yet, because I doesnít justifies, thereís no money what so ever ,but governments and universities, know that is there, they probably donít know the exact material or spot, but they know that ,in that zone an ancient people lived 5000 years ago and when and if they need they will spot there and expedition and study the local
If i understand you right, your father is a very experienced amateur archeologist ? 'passion' ?
I've seen a lot of MD-searchers that are also experienced amateur archeologist.
I'm an amateur als well.. and I must say unlike you, I do respect city archeologists ! They have to deliver their work in limited time and with limited funding.
Maybe you said this, because your father told you, these city archeologists know nothing.. but I am SURE that your father is wrong saying that. Maybe your father knows a lot about a specific time.. the city council archeologist knows a lot of his city, or place.
Everyone is specialized in their own right. Just because they call your father for advice, does not mean they are no good at their profession. I'm just a poor coins collector, who knows something of Roman numismatics. Archeologists and amateurs alike ask me to get their find dated and attributed. I do my best..
no you didnít understand nothing of what I said
First of all I didnít said my father was an amateur
Lol because he isnít
second and I believe I said that I previous posts, he is a very well respected archeologist in Europe and Usa in Universities world not amateur world
Why do you think I donít respect them? I do respect them but im not stupid I am used to deal with real archeologists ,university teachers and so not people that work for the city and think thatís archeology is clean a land spot with an MD
You know I will try donít read this again you really didnít understand I guess or you think Iím a stupid kid which Iím not
Let me make you a picture to see if you get clear on this.
48 books / expeditions in all Europe/ Latin America/ Egypt/ etc, etc ,etc you see those city council archeologist are the first one to tell me near of what your father know we know 0
The best archeologist from your country probably knows him.
One more thing, I donít have nothing against amateurs, but I do have against when they start to destroy see, like I said before I have seen a lot of destruction before I grew inside that world
Thereís nothing really new for me, you are reacting like that because you are Md user yourself
Iím also used to that, but I keep my convictions and you guys should be forbidden to do it.
When you are digging looking for coins you are destroying more than just a little hall like you can think, what about the all other stuff you didnít saw? Or better said for each 1 MD user that really cares there will be 100 that will not care that much so, no I will not defend MD users in this context
I didnít said they werenít good in what they do which is limited ,but now you answer me something if they are so good, why are they working for the city council and not teaching in one university ? for example? Or being responsible for a museum for example? Or even being a buyer of the museum?
Hmm I'm not going to quarrel about your father, THIS is what you said,
For me, as a Dutchman (also non-English) this reads as "my father is a retired employee of the ministery of finance that finds passion in archeology" and owns a grade in (??)
I don't know what i did not understand further on..
Hmm why should every good archeologist teach at a university ? Why can't people work for a municipal community.. because you don't respect that ? You say "limited" , i see that as disrespectful. Mark your words please, this topic is about coin collecting, it's not a political debate.
I can't discuss when we are not speaking the same language, sorry pal.. I'm not "you guys", Im not even a MD searcher. I don't understand you, you don't understand me, so let's stop this sherade please.
And again: I never meant to insult you, or your father, or any archeologist.. and I'm not advocating illegal treasure hunting, I'm against destroying excavation context.. these are unjust allegations that you slapped into my face !
You see probably i explained badly but i can explain again
4 graduations and the respective PhDīs
This was what probably caused the confusion, you see in certain positions in this ministry
People have a lot of free time, he was not a simple employee
You see around the world not only here when you graduate with distinction which means the best ones, you will be invited for that university to stay, as a teacher, them something else etc.
When I say and repeat minor is a fact, they are the first ones to tell you that, like in all EU countries ,and your is not different you probably have 300 city archeologists letís say 300 this is just an example how many of them are ďVIPĒ to your country?
In the other hand you probably have 4 or 5 that are ďVIPĒ in your country and all around the world, VIP is not the greatest word, but I donít remember a better one.
What a hell? Iím not feeling insulted or anything like that loll, not even trying to attack you or something; Iím here for fun not for fights
here is your answer
Honestly at this time I believe you donít know any archeologist or at least in a very good way, in order you can discuss with that person , the kind of subjects we are talking here, when you have that opportunity please do it you will understand me in a blink of an eye
@zaxa again.. although I do not agree with 90% of your assumptions about me, or archeology, or Dutch archeologists for that matter, I am not going to let you drag me into some elaborate debate here. This topic of dude_xyx is about our hobby, that is coin collecting, in a positive way.. I'd like to respect that.
Wherever I have misunderstood, or misinterpreted your text, I'm sorry about that..
Can't you show some coins or something ?
And you are right but remember I still a noob here thatís why I probably tend to go off topic
But is just a question of time is the first forum I participate also, so noob to all.
at the Christmas I will be with my father, I will ask him about it ,here I donít have photos, I will also post other stuff like primitive axes etc. ,but I will have to talk with him first to have his guidance and camera, etc. loll
I'm very interested in that as well !! Looking forward to these..
Latest aquisition is this Denarius of the empress Faustina I,
This is not a spectacular quality piece, but rather special in its own right.
The lettering indicates that this coin was struck in the years 136-138, which makes it a lifetime issue of Faustina. This is very rare. Her husband, the emperor Antoninus, stroke coins for Faustina during the subsequent 25 years, in her remembrance. Her title on these coins is "DIVA". That is not the case on above coin.
what a nice example you just post here ,you see this coin I bet has been found by an amateur I am probably wrong this is just a bet, why do I say this, as you can see at the face of the imperator thereís a injury at the coin it is scratched at the nose and mouth, that happened do to the use of the wrong tools to excavate. This is not 100% sure is just my bet accidents also happen, and even sometimes they show up in agriculture fields, so agriculture machines damage them
Well i think you guessed right, but I'm not sure either by which of these two causes it was damaged, the face of Faustina I.. indeed it's a pity, the obverse would have been far much more appealing without this damage. It has been reported last year (after I attributed it online) to the Utrecht numismaticists, as most Dutch coin finds are.. unless it's a 17th century copper hehe..
I read an article about last king of Egypt who had one of worlds best coin collections. Seems he has some most the most rare American gold coins.
American rare coins have astronomic values
I have got hold of some Nepalese coins. They belonged to my grandfather so I can say that they are pretty old. But I am not sure about the value of these coins. And I am also not sure what to do with those. May be I will pass it along.
Yep, king Farouk. Google "Farouk coins", there is a lot of info about it online
This coin from the collection of King Farouk is the most expensive single coin ever sold,
"Hundreds of people -- including many of the world's top collectors of modern coins -- crowded anxiously around the Double Eagle trying to catch their first and last glimpse of this splendid coin, the only example of its kind ever to go on sale. The auction started sharply at 6pm with a bid of $2.5 million. Within a mere four minutes a fierce battle among the bidders pushed the price to $5.1 million. Finally the broker of an unidentified coin collector, number L0003, sealed the deal at $7.59 million -- representing $6.6 million plus 15 per cent commission to Sotheby's. The buyer must also pay an extra $20 to the US Treasury in repayment of the original face value of the coin."
For a single coin.. incredible
There was a time that you could be arrested for owning one.. the 1933 golden eagle was outlawed, you could not own one, because it was not supposed to exist for years, the American government would deny they exist:
"Two coins should have been the only 1933 double eagle coins in existence. However, unknown to the Mint, a number of the coins (20 have been recovered so far) were stolen, possibly by the U.S. Mint Cashier, and found their way via Philadelphia jeweler Israel Switt, into the hands of collectors. The coins circulated among collectors for several years before the Secret Service became aware of their existence. The matter came to the attention of Mint officials when an investigative reporter looked into the history of the coins he had spotted in an upcoming Stack's Bowers coin auction and contacted the Mint as part of his research, as a result of which an official investigation was begun by the Secret Service in March 1944. Prior to the investigation a Texas dealer sold one of the coins and it was on the way out of the country on February 29, 1944."
I will try to donít forget to ask for some picks to post here at the same time i will show something to my father i spot at the "pt" eBay Iím shocked, lots of prehistoric stuff for sale there
You mean axes and other stone artefacts ? seen this ? there's an index for it..
..it's apparently not illegal to sell these on-line else e-bay would not make that index
(or would they)
yes you are right seems to be a legal way to lose history or sell well made fakes
Well if we're talking stone tools i completely agree with you, Zaxa... These should not be sold, and when found, they should not be brought home or collected. Whenever a stone tool is found, it should be taken to the archeologist/paleontologist immediately, that is a person who can attribute it and archive it properly. And also register the place it was found, very precisely !! Some of these tools are very rare, or crafted early in prehistory. Anything that gives us clues about prehistory should be handled with outmost respect. This also counts for e.g. bronze age artefacts, like axes. Google "bronze age axe for sale" and click images, you see what I mean. It's really bizarre, how many of these museal finds are actually for sale !
As for the fakes, you don't wanna know zaxa.. there may be more fakes than genuine finds on the market nowadays.
This counts for Greek and Roman coins too.
Let's put a few links on fake coins, so people reading this topic can store them in their fav-list and make good use of them. If you want to collect Roman coins, but you don't own a metal detector to find them yourself, below websites SHOULD be consulted before you buy.. this especially counts for e-bay etc..
you are dam right but guess what the ones i spot at the Portuguese ,market place the guy is saying were they have been found probably, he will have a surprise
In 2008 They found 10 1933 gold double eagle coins which were owned by a coin dealer named Israel Switt. those 10 coins said to be worth over 80 million dollars. But United States District Court decided these coins belongs to government and order him to handover those or something like that. I don't remember the full story.
im back i didnt got permition to post fotos so i cant do it
probably i didnt have the best aprox because i first show him the internet market for stolen stuff
A Greek drachma coin. Minted around in 700-550 BC so these coins are over 2500 years old.
You show the famous Aegina Stater, here are some other examples,
Dates are between 525AD and ca 350AD.
I regret I can't afford one these are beautiful coins ! But to be honest, even if I could afford one, I would hesitate to buy one, because there exist too many fakes.
Wow but some coins are estimated for around 200 Euro ? I'm not sure coz that site is not English. I thought these coins are way expensive than this. Even those damaged or worn out coins.
It would be a gem to any coin collection a 2500+ years old silver coin.
This week I had birthday.. I've bought this Quadrans of Claudius I, dated 41-43AD.
It seems big on this picture (scan) but it is only 16mm, very small bronze coin, it's a quarter of an As.
It's one of my finest Roman coins now.
I have many antique coins
Specially the first official coin of Pakistan 1948 xD
LxGoodies, How much did you play for that ? It's a rare coin or a common one ? Seems to be in pretty good condition.
I have an old Nepalese coin which is about a 100 years old. I also have some paper notes. I've been collecting old coins since I was a child. I don't have any international ones though.
Hmm every time I put a Roman coin on the forum you put that question.. anyway, this one was under 100 dollars, which is really a bargain for this quality. The type is common (many of these are found actually, but not in this condition !)
Yeah not bad for a price under $100. Roman coins are common but its hard to find old coins which in good condition. Well yep it hard not to ask the price and info. You should post all that when you post a coin photo !
I thought to post something else I found, not the coin but in an article. Probably the most famous coin all times. The coin in story of Judas' 30 Pieces of Silver ! How many out there has seen what this silver coin is ? Well nobody knows for sure but there are couple of possibilities. This is one of those,
This one is a Roman silver coin called Tyrian shekel.
These were minted in around 100 BC or so.
And Wikipedia says this coin called Antiochan stater is another possibility. Couldn't find photo of real on even in Google search.
Great shekel indeed ! And a rare piece. More biblical coins struck in ancient Israel can be found at classicalcoins.com. I have a few of them, the small coppers in my collection are not really rare coins.. they are quite commonly sold under the name "widows mites".. a term from King James' bible.
Knowing you're very fond of expensive coins, I just came across one of the most rare and expensive Roman coins in existence.. You can buy a nice house for this one. As you can see this is not a gold coin. Gold coins of Annia Faustina are unknown.
This lady was so beautiful that the emperor Elagabalus killed her husband Pomponius Bassus to marry her.
Every 5-10 years, a Roman-imperial silver of this lady (a denarius struck in Rome) is auctioned. This one,
As promised to DeanHills last night, proudly presenting my new coin.
No Roman this time. This silver piece is a 10 Stuiver or Half Guilder, issued by the province of Holland in 1748.
At the time, the Netherlands consisted of a southern part (now Belgium) and a northern part (still: The Netherlands).
The northern part of the country was an independent Republic of seven provinces, called The Dutch Republic. Holland is the coastal region.
On the obverse, a lion is shown with 7 arrows, symbolizing the provinces, the sword referring to the independence war against Spain, which was fought 1568-1648.
On the reverse, the virgin of Holland with the Freedom Cap on a stick. In these times, the Dutch Republic was known for political liberalism and religious freedom.. many people from France (e.g. Hugenots) and Spain/Portugal (Jews) emigrated to Amsterdam in the province of Holland, to practice trade.
These pieces are quite rare, the one Guilder is found far more frequently than the half Guilder (this one)
But the trader I bought it from, did not know that lucky me..
Pretty awesome Lx. Guess it gives you the edge in negotiations to have such a detailed knowledge of the coins.
Didn't realize how much of the history must be in the coins. By the way, my family was of the Hugenots who emigrated from France around that time. They settled in Amersfoort, Utrecht at the time - there are still a few of them living there. They were tradesmen as well.
Hehe great to learn something about you, DeanHills.. we have something in common, it seems. My family from one side is jewish and emigrated in the 1670's from Portugal to Amsterdam.
A well documented coin is worth more, yes. And indeed.. coins do provide a lot of historical knowledge. For provincial coins like the above, the knowledge is largely symbolical: the depictions on the coin represent certain concepts that were important at the time, but the same coin existed for 10-20 years. When talking Roman coins however, the depiction can be regarded as "old newspapers", that is the emperor decided personally what to depict on a coin and that changed from year to year.. they used Roman gods on the reverse, to decide what propaganda would be appropriate for the current year. From Roman coins, it is possible to reconstruct Roman history !
I have some old copper VOC coins. Nothing expensive. Cheap but like 300-400 years old coins. From different areas of Netherlands.
My father is a collector. I guess he's kinda passionate about it. I have 1 coin, which he gave me, which is my favorite. It's a tiny 'widows mite'. Has a little sun with rays stamped on it. And it's over 2000 years old. I loved it as soon as I saw it, before I knew any of the history, before I even knew it was a coin. LOL
It would cool to see a photo if you can post. Is it something like this ?
My new acquisition is not a coin, it's a counter. These large copper pieces were struck between ca 1300 and 1800: they served as tokens for the abacus, which is an ancient tool of calculation, a precursor to the computer. A very interesting page on ancient computing is
.. where this picture can be found, of clercs using these counters to calculate city finances:
In the 16th and 17th centuries, the Dutch Republic issued many of these counters, which show historical events. When I shifted my interest from modern coins to ancient coins ten years ago, I decided I'd like to collect especially pieces related to the 80 years war between the Dutch and the Spanish (1568-1648)
My newest counter originates from the city of Dordrecht, issued in 1606.
The obverse shows a Dutch ship, in a storm at sea. This counter refers to the disastrous sea expeditions conducted against the Portugese fleet, by the Admiral Hautain. His encounters with the enemy were kind of coward: instead of shooting at the enemy ships, he kept on distance and (just) chased the Portugese back to Havana. On the back of this counter, we find the text "MODIC∆ FIDEI QVID TIMETIS ?" which translates into "Are we afraid of weak believers ?". Of course, "weak believers" was meant to insult the catholics.. referring to the Dutch protestant revolution against the Spanish king and the Inquisition.
i also have a habite of collecting coins.i have a coins of different types and style.
Proudly presenting my new coin.. this is a very rare early-medieval piece of the emperor Lotharius (840-855), a grandson of the famous Charles I the Great or Charlemagne. As you may notice, the condition of this coin is quite bad: it is actually just a large fragment. However this state is not uncommon for fragile silver coins of that time and I am very happy with this. A complete piece will definitely be out of reach for my budget.
One very nice thing about it: the type was struck in the Netherlands ! On the reverse, OR-STA-TVS can be read, which indicates DORESTAD, nowadays a small city in the province of Utrecht !
There is no portrait of the emperor on my coin, but this is what Lotharius looked like,
More to read about him, see:
Wikipedia - Lothair I
Silver coins ware-out fast. One reason why some Old Silver coins are expensive than even gold coins. Because its hard to find Old Silver coins in perfect condition if those are exposed to nature.
My oldest Silver coin is only 300-400 years old. A tiny silver Fanam from India or Sri Lanka.
Indeed.. problem with silver is, it tends to fall apart. Especially when it is bad silver (low silver content and very thin, as most old coins are )
... and bronze is even worse !! With bronze, a collector hopes that it stays intact during his own lifetime. I keep my bronze coins in air-tight packaging. The coin you see above, that is my Roman quadrans.. I hope the green speckles will not develop into bronze rot which can destroy a bronze coin in 6 months. And if it is in the coin, you will loose it..
Silver coins are often mistreated. People polish them, which is completely wrong because polishing is the same as wear. You loose small detail. For old coins, it is better to let the black silver oxide develop on the coin. This will give the coin details a better look too. My own approach: I prefer silver coins that are *very* black and oxidized irregularly, because that indicates authenticity.
Fake or not is always a topic with old coins. The Carolingian coin I showed you in the previous submit was a metal detector find.. I know the person who found it and (about) where he found it. So.. I am very happy to have this coin, it is a proven genuine Carolingian. Nowadays, with e-bay and online trade, there exist more fake coins than genuine coins.
Yeah those green stuff are the worst that could happen to bronze coins. You can try to clean and it probably damage the coin and you let it stay it sallow the whole coin.
Now i started to collect different coins.
If you can get hold old coins it might a good future investment.
Ialso collecting old coin but as far as my collection go.. my coin only 70 years old the oldest.. I was wondering how you got on your hand that prehistoric coin....
Well you could buy one, for instance this one,
Only $47,- this is not a bad price for something genuine prehistoric, don't you think ?
By the way, when talking coins, the above coin could be called "prehistoric", because the French/Belgian Leuci tribe did not leave us any written chronicles. However, when talking prehistory in a broader sense, there are no prehistoric coins. iN 650BC, when coinage was invented in Lydia, written accounts existed for at least 2000 years and history had long begun.. also in the city states of Lydia itself.
Yay, can I join coin collectors team
Aww another beauty ! This coin reminds me that lion coin found in Turkey. One known as the oldest coin yet to find. I don't remember how long that one but must be around 3000 years.
Yeah.. lion coin, this is one, nice gold Stater,
It had only one side, the lion. The other side of this coin shows the remains of an incusion that occurred when the coin was struck. These coins seem to be the first European money.
Meanwhile China developed a different kind of coin, "Spade money",
In the antique times, many things were used as exchange objects. But for something to be a genuine coin, it must be approved by an authority. The lion was the symbol of the Lydian king. On the Chinese spades, the city name is inscribed. That is why it is a coin.. and shells, rings and ingots are not..
My main coin collection seems to be on frihost.
I do collect physical coins as well. The oldest one in the collection is from 1954 when Tribhuwan was the king of Nepal. I also have 1 paisa, 10 paisa, and 25 paisa coins. They stopped making those a long time ago. I don't have any international coins, though. Only old Nepali coins.
I didn't know about these Chinese Spade money. Thanks for that source page. It has some nice information about Chinese coins.
@codegeek : It not hard to find coins from other countries. ))
I am collecting coins.I love to do so.
I bought three Romain age coins for just $10. But badly damaged.
I have some old coin from my own country here. I keep a lot of local coins just for fun. Maybe someday i would like to give to my children or grand children with the same hobby.
Yeah older those coins get more valuable those will be.
not any more..
For frihost coins i think you can never use it.
in the childhood was fond of
Recently I found a Copec coin. Not old one or valuable one. It's the Russian equivalent to cent.