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Porn in school....





mckenneth
lolz... der was this hi skul teacher in my old skul right.... his name is Mr Giezler... he showed a video to sum class.... and leave the class watchin it... and amm.. at the very end part of it.. ther was a "hot tub scene"....

HE GOT SUSPENDED... lolzz... not so smart!... Rolling Eyes
mele
Just suspended? I'm guessing this didn't happen in USA. If something like that happened in highschool where my little brother goes, i'm sure he would get sued about 30 times and 3 day of "exclusive news" on News Channel 5 followed by loss of his teacher license maybe even jail lol. So that guy has good.
chiragshivnani
In India this can't happen bcoz teachers r very good here

Cheers
jongoldsz
In the US, the teacher would go to jail and be sued by the school and many parents and possibly the town/city.
gonzo
which would be ironic given the licentious sexual promotion classes in grade school and highschool.

Compare than to handing out condoms...
completeforums
I agree with jongoldsz, they definatly would be sent to jail and sued.
gonzo
completeforums wrote:
sent to jail and sued.


wow. both?
surdy
i can't even imagine a teacher doing this in class here ..(in india)
whplace
This is impossible in india.
The teachers are nice........Or atleast thats what they seems to be
heptagon
Hi there Yankees and Indians, Europe calling (okay, a bit pretentious, just ‘me’ calling).

It worries me what you guys are saying from the US. It worries me that a teacher would be jailed for such a thing. Sure, he’s got a duty to be extra careful and to look after the children he’s teaching…but if a teacher with a clean sheet of service was to do a mistake like this I would imagine that losing his license would be enough.

What does society gain from removing his license AND putting him in prison? Absolutely nothing except, I guess, satisfy those with double standards, self-appointed guardians of morality, politically-hungry prosecutors, legislators seeking re-election, etc…in short, nothing to do with justice.

I guess that no judicial system is perfect, but with all its delays and imperfections I would prefer to stand trial in Europe rather than in the US.
tribe
Heptagon. Be more specific when you say INDIANS AND YANKEES.
I am thinking about the baseball teams here in the USA.

Anyways that guy must have major problems. Was it like a new porn show at the end or was it just apart of the show he showed the class?

I'd like to know...
dan751
The punishment for looking at porn while at my school is harsher, You're almost looking at expulsion. And I'm completely fine with that too. The idiot kids have no need to be at school looking at porn while I want to be there to work. There's a 0 tolerance for that, and I want it to stay at 0 tolerance.
hofer
Nice teacher, i would like to have one like that one.

If it happens here in Brazil everybody will laugh at him forever, no legal punishment, i think.
yule
completeforums wrote:
I agree with jongoldsz, they definatly would be sent to jail and sued.


Forbid pornography firmly.
orno
Dont see why this should be in the Discuss News section

moved to General Chat
budazz
ei did he really intentionally did that or really he dont know the scene at the end part..by the way what is the film all about?.. Laughing
kirra
in israel the teacher will get a really good bonus .






j/k he will get suedso fast
izcool
Well, if the movies we seen in our classes had content like that, the teacher would either fast forward through it or have a parental permission slip to sign for them to approve that it's ok. A few weeks ago, we watched "The Crucible" in my American Lit class on video. Near the beginning, one of the characters stripped down and started dancing in the woods (part of the plot of the storyline). We didn't have a permissionslip or anything. No one in the class acted "out of whack" when that came up, no one said anything. So I guess people tend to mature in life with scenes like that in movies.

- Mike.
Pixel
well, it sounds wierd that they would show you that kind of stuff in school...Why? Surprised
Jack_Hammer
mele wrote:
Just suspended? I'm guessing this didn't happen in USA. If something like that happened in highschool where my little brother goes, i'm sure he would get sued about 30 times and 3 day of "exclusive news" on News Channel 5 followed by loss of his teacher license maybe even jail lol. So that guy has good.


Thats the american way, stupid americans always trying to con and sue each other...
(sorry I just have some problem with stupid americans...(not saying all americans are stupid))
Jack_Hammer
I think to be more open about sex and drugs the world would be a much better place, example Amsterdam, people are taught about sex and they ahve no problem with it, you know it was only the victorians that made sex bad, before that say Pompay (sp?) they have a brothel preserved in ash, and that they used the penis as a symbol of good luck, and is drawn on a lot of the walls as a symbol of good luck, If people were more open about sex and drugs then people would be a lot happier to say ask about it rather than be ashamed or embarresed...
tw1st3d-pr0ducti0nz
lol i made porn w/ my girlfriend and the schoolmates ended up socially banishing us as a couple haha
seanooi
I'm from Malaysia, and here, unfortunately we don't get videos shown to students. But if we were to get videos shown to use, and that video contains porn scenes, I guess everyone would be happily watching it, hahahahaha.
But i'm not sure about the consequences because there has been cases like this but were never exposed to public.
SilverDogg
if it was just a mistake i see no reason to do anything but maybe give him a warning. if he watches pron in his free time who are we to judge him? but if the pron was intended to be shown to the studens, then its a bit more serious. especially if you are in the younger ages. then again, i dont think alot of people here are under 13 ;/.

gah.. i have no idea what im blabbling about -_-
Dimaod
Hm...
Porn in school its something new...
Never heard about it Very Happy Very Happy
ImpacTV
I guess I just have a few questions. Was this a home video that the teacher copied off of the TV? Are there not copyright laws against that sort of thing? I also think that many schools have issues with material that is not pre-approved. Therefore, it would seem that the issue is not really that the little* accident happened, but that the many protocols that should be in place, were not or were broken. Something needs to be fixed. This is not to say that teacher show not continue to come up with creative and fresh was to inspire students, but this teacher made a mistake. I think that you have to look at more than just the porn to see if what actions need to take place. What was the video about and was there any good reason that the teacher should have been showing it in the first place is one? If there was not valid reason for playing the video, then maybe loosing the license and possibly other actions should be looked into. If the video did have “good” reason to be played, maybe the above actions are a little heavy for an accident.


deL
joshua_erceg
Yeah I think it's not the best thing to be doing in computer class at school.
I mean like - the teachers track your history & stuff, & then you can lose your "internet privelages."
Thats if you can even manage to find any in the 1st place - any site that is worth going on, eg, like ebaumsworld, (let alone a porn website!) has been blocked!!!
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Jack_Hammer
joshua_erceg wrote:
Yeah I think it's not the best thing to be doing in computer class at school.
I mean like - the teachers track your history & stuff, & then you can lose your "internet privelages."
Thats if you can even manage to find any in the 1st place - any site that is worth going on, eg, like ebaumsworld, (let alone a porn website!) has been blocked!!!
[/quote]

Thats why when I was at school me and my friend used to use proxy servers, they can't stop you visiting any website as long as your viewing it through a proxy server, no-one could ever stop me and him doing whatever we wanted with the computers, they even deleted my account on RM at one point, but it didn't stop me hacking in through other accounts, say the Admin ones and giving myself a new admin account did it?
Laughing
meet in rio
Maybe it's just my school or just my age, but I can't imagine anyone objecting to *ahem* 'steamy' movie scenes which are part of a storyline.

(I can't imagine why students would be shown a real porn movie, so i'll assume that that's not what we're discussing.)

Once a kid hits 13, I don't think it should really be an issue. If they're too immature to deal with a sex scene then it shouldn't be the teacher's problem.
joshua_erceg
Hmm... I wish I could do that (using a proxy server thing)...
Lol the most I can do though is get into the teachers drives (lol via hyperlinks on MS Word) Smile
And your website, Jack_Hammer, is pretty kool.
Lol - will stop now, getting off topic...
valkyrie-heavens
HA! i know someone who draws there own porn... oh god, its sickening. And i used to like this guy... gah.
speedlikecy
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

have teacher like this? reall?

cant believe it
nolit
In my school - a fine arts academy, I remember we were allowed to bring smut magazine, especially during times when we cannot afford a model to pose for our nude sessions. But most of us brought the soft porn magazines. The hardcore would not be seen anyway since it would be handed fast from one to another.
TimsJugling
Thats what you call nuts! He's lucky to just get susspended though.
jongoldsz
Also, a teacher can't show a movie to the class without knowing what it is about. They would first have to watch it, so it couldn't be a mistake. Also, there are laws saying that children/teens can't view porn until they are 18 or 21 (varies in different states). And since the teacher showed it to them, and they didn't get any notification it is the teachers fault. Either for not watching the movie ahead of time or showing it to childern/teens.
ronitvohra
speedlikecy wrote:
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

have teacher like this? reall?

cant believe it


I cant believe it....tooo
izcool
Jack_Hammer wrote:
joshua_erceg wrote:
Yeah I think it's not the best thing to be doing in computer class at school.
I mean like - the teachers track your history & stuff, & then you can lose your "internet privelages."
Thats if you can even manage to find any in the 1st place - any site that is worth going on, eg, like ebaumsworld, (let alone a porn website!) has been blocked!!!


Thats why when I was at school me and my friend used to use proxy servers, they can't stop you visiting any website as long as your viewing it through a proxy server, no-one could ever stop me and him doing whatever we wanted with the computers, they even deleted my account on RM at one point, but it didn't stop me hacking in through other accounts, say the Admin ones and giving myself a new admin account did it?
Laughing[/quote]

At my school they have monitoring software that if you're doing something you're not supposed to be doing, it pops up on the Network Administrator computer saying that they've connected to a Proxy Server (or something) which would be suspicious for school-related use, they can see what you're doing on the screen and bust you that way. I know because a lot of kids in my class have tested their buttons by going to sites like eBay and EbaumsWorld. Rolling Eyes You're never entirely secure on what kinds of security software they have. I don't do it because I don't want my computer privledges revoked. I've found a few bugs in their system and was able to get into the C:\ drive, heh, I told em about it and they fixed the issue.

- Mike.
aniitopia
One time in class we got to watch a cleopatra movie and it had dirty scenes every few minutes but the teacher fast forwarded it.
thiamshui
Juz suspended? He will b jailed in my c'try..
lituhanian
lol your teacher mybe whant to see to porn Smile
SeoJi
valkyrie-heavens wrote:
HA! i know someone who draws there own porn... oh god, its sickening. And i used to like this guy... gah.


this is debatable, because many artist draw in the form of nudity.
pjv
If it's sex education then the student should be properly oriented and taught, not just leave them watching some porno movies. The teacher should be kicked out. lol
mark
Ha! Busted. He should have got expelled.
bigdan
Porno should be left at home, not in the classroom! Very Happy
manumiglani
Quote:
In India this can't happen bcoz teachers r very good here

Cheers



I agree with this.. In India teacher understand their responsibilities ... India is great!!!!
3shades
hahahaha, i wish that'd happened in my school lol

didnt he stop it before it got too erm "out of hand?" lol
jveezy
There have been movies shown in school here that have nudity but usually there's some form that is sent out before the movie for parental consent or something. Sometimes there is no form sent out but the teacher warns us and then tells us that if we're uncomfortable, then we don't have to watch or whatever.

Of course, if this was a hardcore sex scene, then I'm sure everything would be a little more strict.
blueknot
i though thailand use porn to teach sex education ?

hmm, in face in my class, my friends told me they used to circulate porn CD with a pokemon cover among the boys. even girls watch it too.
theo
==
i don't bieleve it
angelo
Why he was suspended? Was the bath tub scene really that obscene? Can you describe it? I think, if nudity eas shown, I think he deserves a sanction. But on second thought, students would understand it better if shown in actual and not just abstarct or imagery, right?
saiyeek
Thanks god!
He did that, if he hadn't you would have no story to tell. He increased your posts in frihost. Let's thank him.
Just a joke
Hey and the children kept watching, I think hottub scene is not really pornography until they show sexual intercourse scene. He he
Slick
i personnally find this highly amusing!

i was taught sex education from the age of 12 here in the uk wats the difference in seeing the process to talking about it and being shown diagrams??

i once read about a lesson choice in a US high school about porn or extended sex education were porn was shown!

wen u look at tv programmes even magazines everything is sexually orientated anyways!

i think some parents attitudes are very over protective and pathetic....

the sooner children / young adults learn about the ins n outs of sex (no pun intended) the more likely they are not to experiment and practically find out the process at such an early age!

my parents were very open with the subject and didnt try to hide that fact that people "do it" lol and i didnt go off wanting to have sex with every girl i saw! i waited until i found someone i felt comfortable with etc!
a.Bird
heptagon wrote:
Hi there Yankees and Indians, Europe calling (okay, a bit pretentious, just ‘me’ calling).

It worries me what you guys are saying from the US. It worries me that a teacher would be jailed for such a thing. Sure, he’s got a duty to be extra careful and to look after the children he’s teaching…but if a teacher with a clean sheet of service was to do a mistake like this I would imagine that losing his license would be enough.

What does society gain from removing his license AND putting him in prison? Absolutely nothing except, I guess, satisfy those with double standards, self-appointed guardians of morality, politically-hungry prosecutors, legislators seeking re-election, etc…in short, nothing to do with justice.

I guess that no judicial system is perfect, but with all its delays and imperfections I would prefer to stand trial in Europe rather than in the US.


And I say "welcome to america!" I don't even know how to extend on this. I think you basically just broke it down.

And on top of it, we (Americans) are all so afraid of reality, ashamed of our own humanism. What's more, we focus on the actual words or images we see, and not the context. Not the long run results. Not the genuine intent. Not the hypocrisy. I am SO ashamed to call myself an American... so I DON'T hhahaha. Oh man I can't wait to get out of this place.
nathan99
well in austrlia im sure the guys would like it Confused
blazachicken
as if u'd tell anyone one youd just leave it for others to watch
Slick
blazachicken wrote:
as if u'd tell anyone one youd just leave it for others to watch


tape would have been nicked in my school haha

how many teenagers using the net doesnt have access to porn anyways!
carlokes
Humm....i think justice in america is kinda wrong...whatever...
I watched lots of porn in that age (and still do actually) and never suffered from any trauma or problem...
jobsworld
It is matter of freedom and we cann't stop somebody for doing his/her interest......
Slick
jobsworld wrote:
It is matter of freedom and we cann't stop somebody for doing his/her interest......


depends wat they like doin!

just like cannibals / rapists and murderers... u would stop that interest then?
hanay
in a word: sweet.
CMA
lol if that were to happen in my school the teacher would be expelled faster than he'd be able to say "oops".

By the way, this here is a true story:

There was this friend of mine who was in class and he wasn't paying any attention, so he grabbed a magazine from his backpack (a videogame magazine) and started reading it in class. The teacher saw it, sneaked up behind him and shouted:
"What the hell are you doing?" *checks the magazine* "A videogame magazine?! C'mon! If it was a Playboy I'd let it slide, but that's not the case, so sorry!" *takes the magazine away from my friend and resumes the class*

A week later, though, my friend pulled out a Playboy magazine. Once again, his teacher sneaked up behind him and...:
"Hey, you! Didn't I.... Oh..." - Next, the teacher sits next to my friend and tells the rest of the class: "Everyone, answer the questions on page 87" - And he sat there looking at the magazine until everyone else finished the exercises. LOL!!

XD
chico-lama
I think it is not fair to be suspended for such a little "excident". Second: I think that the stiffness to sex in most countries lead to big problems.

For example: In the USA, teenager mums is a great problem, why? I think that these teenager mothers are not informed well enough. Yes, indeed show teenagers how the real world is, so naked bodies and sex are part of it as well. Show these movies!
dark_one
lol, I would think he would be bankrupt by now with the amount of times he would be sued if that happened in Australia...

Although, it really depends on exactly what the content is and how old the kids are... if it's real porn then that's bad, but we see many videos with naked people in them...
dark_one
chico-lama wrote:
I think it is not fair to be suspended for such a little "excident". Second: I think that the stiffness to sex in most countries lead to big problems.

For example: In the USA, teenager mums is a great problem, why? I think that these teenager mothers are not informed well enough. Yes, indeed show teenagers how the real world is, so naked bodies and sex are part of it as well. Show these movies!


I actually agree with that... Plus: Teenagers break the law more when they're 'experimenting'...

For Example: If a teen's parents don't let them smoke/drink, the chances are that they will do that behind the parents back anyway, I think that as a parent it would be better to let your child do it and know EXACTLY what they're doing. It's the same with porn, if it's illegal to see it, they want too...
Asheboy
lol what a dum ass
NightsCuriosity
I dont think porn is that big of a deal....if you have blue balls, it certainly helps. But I dont think it should be in school. I also think it should be a private thing too. The only time i will watch it with friends is when we are drunk, and dubbing it. Otherwise, its not cool to watch it with your friends. Do you really want a hard on while next to one of your buddies? I know I dont!
Billwaa
Middle school or High school?

Last week in a normal English, we just watch a movie with nake man swimming around in the lake (kind of gay intro to the Illustrated Man)

Last year, when we watch Mid-summer night dream, yeah, a lot of girls...

None of them got in trouble.
Nameless
Slick wrote:
jobsworld wrote:
It is matter of freedom and we cann't stop somebody for doing his/her interest......


depends wat they like doin!

just like cannibals / rapists and murderers... u would stop that interest then?


The difference there is that what they are doing interferes with the freedom of others. If you watch porn, you are not harming anyone else (obviously the case in debate here is different), but if you rape someone you are dirrectly harming them, so it's wrong.
Slick
Nameless wrote:
Slick wrote:
jobsworld wrote:
It is matter of freedom and we cann't stop somebody for doing his/her interest......


depends wat they like doin!

just like cannibals / rapists and murderers... u would stop that interest then?


The difference there is that what they are doing interferes with the freedom of others. If you watch porn, you are not harming anyone else (obviously the case in debate here is different), but if you rape someone you are dirrectly harming them, so it's wrong.


correct me if im wrong he didnt state "an interest that doesnt affect anybody else" he just purely sed his or her interest... - that leaves an open book to ANY interest.... Wink
sibbahz
I can remember year 8 at middle school and everyone found a brief nude scene really funny, some of the people in the class wernt old enough to see the film and the teacher still put it on. Nothing happened to him, but at least it wasnt hard porn.
If a teacher did put hard porn on im sure they would be instantly sacked.
bananaphone
whplace wrote:
This is impossible in india.
The teachers are nice........Or atleast thats what they seems to be


Sheeze - enough about India!!
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