This question was sprung on me when reading menino's post in the Internet addiction thread.
So my initial reaction was "No its not, we have survived as a race for thousands of years without it and have done a better job at living in general before it."
But then i slowly came to think, In today's society it is kind of a necessity isn't it? do you think so? why/why not?
Yep, it is kind of a necessity in today's society just like domesticated animals were for our past generations. I think early adapters who tamed the animals must have thought similarly too - we have survived for so many generations together hunting, why do we need to domesticate animals anyway?
Rest as we know is history.
we, (as people/living beings) can live without the internet, but states/countries/societies these days can't live without interaction, which is required between people who are situated far away from each other, hence we need the internet. I'm not saying that we cant live with other forms of interaction like phones and letters, but because of our rate of development, we have stepped into an era which 'needs' the internet.
It surely is, If I can get that wonderful animation video back from facebook then I would post it here, it was a good one(about how internet failed and that resulted in a huge hue and cry)...
Good thread Parkour_Jarrod. I've been wondering whether I should go on an Internet diet for two months. Put in long leave at work, and camp on a beach in Thailand for example. And see what life can be like spent away from any kind of staring at square boxes, including TVs.
But yes, to answer your big question. It probably is necessary. On the odd rare occasion when our Internet is down that is usually a good reminder of how much we depend on the Internet for our work. Like everyone's lives depend on it.
i would basically hate my life without internet.. all im saying
Necessity depends on the situations. I know several people who still do not have internet and live just fine, and they are from my own age group of 22-25. But anymore it is a necessity for many reasons. In this day in age everything seems to involve the internet either directly or indirectly. Even a farm operation of all things relied heavily on the internet during my employment with them to connect with suppliers and scheduling loads. Without the internet what took minutes would have taken hours of phone calls and trails of paper a mile long.
Anymore its a necessity when looking for/applying for a job. Tons of employers now require online applications, no more can you just drop in and fill a paper version out.
And there's the ability to connect with family and friends no matter where they may be. International calls are expensive, without the internet I would only be able to talk with my friend in Taiwan every few months, letters take forever to get delivered and occasionally never make it, but with the internet we can talk anytime we want through messaging and even voice and video.
Just being able to find information on just about anything with a few simple clicks is a huge time saver, have a problem...instead of researching for hours, now you can sometimes find the solution in less then a minute.
I see it as a huge necessity, and a useful tool. If the internet was to completely collapse tomorrow the world would still go on...but with the heavy involvement in business and just about every aspect of daily operations of many things...it would take years to fully recover.
I'm not overly dependent on the internet as some. I believe it's more of a personal preference rather than fact. For one person, it may be a necessity, for other people it may not. There are many people who haven't even used the internet before and they still live well. I understand many people will do their taxes online, do banking business online, and even apply for jobs online. I personally don't feel confident enough to give really sensitive information over the internet. I do taxes with my tax advisor, I go to my bank for banking related business, and if I'm looking for a job, I go directly to the place of employment.
The internet is more of a novelty rather than a necessity to me. It is awesome to see people halfway around the world through webcams live and view news and information in seconds, but if it comes down to it, I don't have anything that's pulling me in to the internet because it's necessary. I just use it for entrainment and just spending some time.
It depends on how you define 'necessary'. Technically the only necessities are food, water, shelter ... the Internet is pretty low down the list of things you Need To Survive. Hell, computers are pretty low down the list. A lot of people in this world live without ever seeing a computer.
But the fact remains that to do a lot of things in a developed country, the internet is necessary.
I believe it has become a need to businesses today. So many are using the internet for online storage, searching, and communication. Also with the proliferation of so many "Green" type programs and services geared towards saving the environment, digital media is a huge way working towards those ends.
The internet was always there during the hard times in my life, like when all of my "friends" abandoned me.....Plus I liked it beforehand anyway. So I love the internet and it's my life besides my friends in quotation marks.
ya internet is necessary, without internet nowadays we cannot live.. just like air... internet is also necessary... all the works are going on through internet only... we can sit in house and do all the things if we have internet...
really a very good we got.... but some are misuse it...
any way take the good and leave the bad...
Aha! So that's all I need to do to eliminate the human species: take down the internet.
Extinction in 3... 2... 1...
Really people... Without the internet you would be inconvenienced, not dead. You'd have to look up businesses in a phone book, and order things in catalogs (remember those?). You might even have to actually talk or write to people to stay in touch.
Society today heavily relies on it and it makes our lives easier and better, but it is not a necessity in order to live.
I think that in today's world, internet is really a neccessity. And I don't need to explain why, we all know...
As a species: no, of course not. We'd be fine without the Internet.
As an individual: in many cases, yes. Many jobs nowadays require the Internet. Not to mention that we use it a lot in school work.
As a species it probably isnt a necessity, but you've got to remember that every society evolves and new inventions make life easier so why would we ever want to be without them?? I mean, stuff like painkillers aren't necessarily a NECESSITY but they sure as hell do make life and headaches a lot better! I see the internet in a similar way, our species survived effectively without it for such a long time, but it makes communication (and a whole lot of other things) much faster so it gives us more time to do other things (whatever they may be).
No, it is not a necessity. Necessities are food (including water), sleep, shelter. That is it. You don't need anything else to survive.
Anyone who says they cannot live without the internet needs to seriously re-evaluate themselves and their lives, because there is something seriously wrong with them.
No, it's not a necessity.
For example the last 20 days I was away without internet access, and I did not feel any problems. But when I'm back home, and internet access is available, I'd feel bad if I'm not able to use it. I guess that means I could do without it if it is not available.
About 10 years back I have not even heard of computer or Internet. I don't need it. Now in my job
it is most needed. It is the cheapest way to integrate mass cordination. Here most of all departments are officially integrated via internet. If the internet is down in one day we will be enjoying a holyday in our office
I'd say it's a necessity if we are to move forward as a society in the Digital/Information age. I mean think of all of the information out there, how would any individual have access to it without such a huge global network? Not to mention the amount of paperwork that online forms save. This saves people time and it also protects the environment by saving paper (or course the energy usage of all of the servers is another issue, but at least it's easier to improve upon that than to keep up with a demand for paper).
And with regards to communication, sure we can call people and stay in touch in person (and I hope we all do even with the internet), but it's not practical to do so for every acquaintance we have. I mean we call relatives and close friends and see them in person, but what about all of your old friends with whom you'd like to keep in contact? The Internet is an important tool in aiding communication (although it should not eliminate other means).
So without the Internet, we as a society would not advance as rapidly as we are now. Sure we could survive, but we would really be held back.
For individuals, I'd say the internet isn't yet a necessity; all vital services or information can be accessed or obtained in person or physically. But give it ten years, and yeah it'll pretty much be expected of you in the same way a telephone is now ... so while it will be still be strictly possible to survive without it, you won't be able to maintain the same quality of life as other people.
For me, the internet is a necessity, but that is because my school decided to totally changed it's policies, and now teachers don't have to give homework at the end of the lessons anymore, they put it online in a special application made by our school (ps: FAIL), so now that's basically forcing me to check the school site every day, and what's even worse, next year the school is converting to laptops instead of sheets of paper and notebooks to make notes and tests (hint hint: secret file containing all answers).
The Internet is already becoming a necessity. Even for a "third-world" country like the Philippines, most of us have already depended on the Internet for a lot of reasons.
Some use it to keep in touch with relatives abroad or find true love online.
Students use it for research and most teachers already assume that you have Internet (based on the homeworks they assign).
I think it's just another step in the technological gradient. I mean, right now, nobody can say that computers in general are not a necessity, since almost everything is dependent on it for all our daily functions like controlling traffic lights, electricity, water, and running all our basic services. It's hard to imagine what it was like before the invention of the computer, but it must have been much less efficient and effective. Also much slower. The internet is just another step in this direction. Pretty soon we will be dependent completely on it. Right now, many of our financial networks are already pretty intertwined with the internet, and if it were to die now, there would be chaos as people figured out how to sort through the millions of financial transactions that occur daily.
The way you phrased your question is interesting.
Is the internet required for our society? Yes
Everyone uses the internet now, for work, for personal life. If you dont use the internet at all then you're unlikely to get any social events done.
It's not required for living though. You'll be perfectly fine without the internet if you want to go live in a mountain by yourself. Let me know how that goes
yes the internet is important in this day and age if you want to get some things done. but then you go on living with it. so its not such a big deal but necessary for getting certain things done.
Not hard to imagine at all, especially if you read historical accounts.
There's even some places -- believe it or not -- where such a lifestyle continues, and you can experience it first hand.
I remember having to live that way. Darn, I'm old!
No internet is not an absolute necessity. It is just a quicker and possibly more convenient. I know the internet has helped my business. I like an e-mail waiting for me when I wake instead of getting a call at 2am because someone forgot about the time difference.
It's a necessity for me because I work with it everyday.
I don't see myself in front of a computer for 40 hours a week but it's always nice to check it up sometimes.
Internet is a necessity for (almost) every company/individuals in this world. You can learn so much things with it.
We could live without it but I think people would always be on the phone if there was no internet.
I work for a company with 35 sites spread right across australia, and once a month the person in my role at each site we have a video hookup over the internet to discuss what we are doing at our sites, etc...So for my job it is a necessity, at home its a luxury, its nice to have it, and i use it because its there but i could live without it.
It's called a conference call. It doesn't have video, but many people can talk to each other over any distance, no internet required.
What you find is that it is essential for those purposes to which it has contributed - so it is ultimately a circular argument - you need it for those things you need it for
The Internet has benefited me greatly as it enables me to communicate more effectively with people around the world. It is so easy to get any information you need nowadays. Online search engines can help you find the related materials. Things were, however, very different when I was studying back then. We used to climb ladders to get books off the library shelves.
In 2010, Internet has become a neccessity. Back 20 years ago, it was not.
Phone is also a neccessity. Buck 150 years ago, it was not.
But what do people mean by 'the internet'. That is just a collection of routers and cables. It's like saying 'the national and internation packet switching telephony infrastructure' is necessary.
True enough, but sort of taken as a given.
Web access is certainly not essential and by the time it is it will be available to pretty much anyone with a TV. Email? The same.
I see a trend in future away from computers and towards machines with connectivity. Why does anyone use a computer to answer emails? It actually makes very little sense to use a powerful processing machine to do a task that requires the processing power of a small calculator. Once speech recognition becomes a little more reliable and a lot cheaper then email will be something you do via clothes or bracelets or some other wearable artefact methinks....
(I use speech recognition sometimes when preparing lectures and I have seen a massive leap in quality. I can type reasonably well so it has to be good to make it worth my while, and it has now reached the stage of accuracy where it is quicker to use speech than keyboard for anything except notes which are going to include a lot of specialist terminology).
I'm sure if one would study it closer, it would become much more involved.
yes, it is
You can have internet, intranets, extranets...is my connection to my ISP part of the internet? Only when I've established a connection to an internet router, I suppose would be the technical answer (I could use the same connection to connect directly to another computer or device - point to point.
The 'internet' is just the kit. The routers, switches and media (fibre optic cables, copper cables, wireless). This collection of connectivity 'kit' is the internet. It carries services - such as the World-wide web - which most people actually mean when they use the word 'internet'. Normally the distinction is not really important but if you want to ask a question about the internet then it is best to be clear from the start.
I thought it was quite clear from everyone's postings what our understanding of the Internet is. I can imagine we would have flunked in your class, but I think everyone is on the same page.
Why would you think that? You previously said that you have no real understanding of the internet - "Internet is when you turn your computer on, and then click on a button that gives you access to the Internet."
So are you saying that you think everyone else in the thread is equally ignorant about the net? I don't think so - and judging by the postings I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.
Since when did you become 'we'?
I am using the term "Internet" as the OP intended it.
I believe that it is a necessity in the term similar to other necessities where society needs it to function the way that our country is. I am not saying that we couldn't live without it but it would be like taking away every persons stoves/ovens/microwaves, we would survive but it would change our lifestyle massively and has become a necessity.
If the internet were shut down many people would lose there jobs and instant information would slip from us. It is amazing to see how many people have a Smart Phone with internet capability where they have everything at there fingers and yet on the other hand seeing how many elderly or middle aged people not even touched the internet. It shows that while some need the internet and call it a necessity others barely know of its existence or the fact that others are so dependent on it.
They are pretty smart those Martians. I told them it wouldn't work but they insisted it would.
"We can enslave the human race within 3 decades without them even seeing us".
That was the bet thet Rhhftyya offered me in 1989. I thought he was barking mad* so I bet him 5 trmpphy that he couldn't.
Looks like that is 5 trmpphy I'll never see again. He's almost done it and with more than 8 years to go...sneaky sod.
I should have spotted it of course. Very old trick - get your prey hooked on something that you control and when the time is right, start squeezing. Don't supply as much, let the demand peak, then halve the supply and they will kill each other for what they can get. Then when they are at fever pitch, pull the plug completely and let the despair do the rest of the job.
The only question now is how Rhhftyaa will actually finish us off. Solar flare would be my guess. Give the sun a kick in the solar plexus and let the coronal mass ejection fry every satellite in orbit, so there will be almost no data traffic, and at the same time it will knock out most of the worlds power for a few days. That should get them screaming. Then after a few days carnage, he'll hit us with the coup-de-grace.
I haven't yet worked out what that will be.
Maybe a new super-worm, munching up mobile phone networks as it gives birth to it's trillions of children, all starving hungry for bandwidth.
Maybe he'll go for the biological solution - a new species of insect or rodent that transmits a mating call via focussed em pulses - knocking out all the wireless networking, TV, Radio and mobile phones.
Maybe he'll play it old-school and have Israel launch a nuke at Iran and let the escalation do the job of frying our comms....
Who knows? I just know that we have 8 more years, if we are lucky, before Rhhftyaa comes to collect his winnings.....
*Martians bark for communication. The thin air on Mars means that normal speaking doesn't carry any distance, so they make harsh short explosions of sound like dog barks from a really really angry dog. It isn't really like a normal dog bark - warning you to keep away; it's more like telling you in short obscene words of 1 syllable how many of your familily it plans to eat after it kills you.
You will appreciate, then, that a barking mad martian is not in control of himself and is a prime target for a proposition bet.**
** Was I not scared? Ha. Hell no. The thin air also means that martians are mainly a walking pair of lungs with scrawny legs and no arms.
They look like this:
Yes Internet is necessity in todays life. We can anytype of information from anywhere and anytime from Internet. Its also a good time passing media also. Communication also become easy through Internet. I can't think life without Internet.
Just imagine how many people live out of the internet these days. But as the other commodities, like electricity or petroleum, we could easily revert to living without them if necessary.
I'd say that the internet has become a necessity. Not a fundamental or bare necessity, but a necessity for a functional society. Its a new form of communication, it supports emergency services, it connects everyone. It has become the fall back for so many services and enhancements to our quality of life. I would argue that the internet directly sustains at least some of our world population (in economic terms, many jobs, businesses, and lives would become unlivable, untenable, or obsolete with the loss of the internet). Therefore, if the internet were to suddenly disappear, by no means would life end. But, lives would end. People would die. Life would get harder and adaptation and survival of the fittest would prevail. As it has always.
So, a bare necessity for individual life? No.
For life as we know it? Yes.
Also, Bikerman, that was freaking hilarious.
Thanks - just trying to inject a bit of humour and practice my writing skills. Glad you liked it
I don't think the internet's important enough
Well, in today's world, internet is necessity. Everything is somehow connected to the internet. It makes everything faster and easier. The internet is a major necessity in the world today. I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like without the internet in these present times. And who knows what the future will hold.
If I took the internet away from you, you had no access to the internet or any other networks, would you physically be able to survive?
It's a necessity in the US anyway. You almost can't get anything done without it. When you want to apply for a job, most of them take their applications online. If you want to look for a place to rent or a house to buy, realtors send you to their website, landlords advertise online. The phone book is completely out of date and getting worse. Almost everyone puts all their information online. Class registrations occur online, some specialty shops only sell online. Banking occurs online, bill pay occurs online--it's a necessity to do business/live life in modern US society.