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Trouble in valuable US Afghan supply line - Kyrgyzstan





deanhills
Looks as though Kyrgyzstan's Government has just been overturned. Wonder whether China played a role in this and how this is going to affect the other ***stans in the area:


Quote:
Before this week, most Americans had likely never heard of Kyrgyzstan and even fewer could place it on a map.

But the central Asian nation, which is about the size of South Dakota, is important to U.S. foreign policy for one simple reason: a vital military base that about 50,000 troops pass through every month on their way in and out of Afghanistan.

The fate of the Manas Transit Center was thrown into question Wednesday when Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiev was forced to flee the capital after angry mobs seized government headquarters. Fighting between police and protesters left 75 people dead and hundreds injured, authorities said Thursday.

The protesters say they are in control of the government, but Bakiev sent word Thursday from southern Kyrgyzstan that he is not abandoning his duties.

The United States likely will retain use of the Manas facility even if Bakiev's opponents secure control of the government, said Alexander Cooley, a central Asia expert at Barnard College.


CNN News
ocalhoun
It will be interesting to see how Obama handles it if 'the protesters' retain control of the country, and start demanding that the US military get out.

He hasn't really made a big deal about the wars, but something like that might force him to, and let us see what his foreign policy is really like, when under pressure.
deanhills
ocalhoun wrote:
He hasn't really made a big deal about the wars, but something like that might force him to, and let us see what his foreign policy is really like, when under pressure.
Good point. Probably a good chance however that the Americans will just ignore what is going on, and do a deal with whoever will be a new Government. If it gets too hot, they could easily shift their base to another ***stan. But yes, it would be a good test for Obama, hopefully the military will make it easy for him by coming up with good recommendations.
TEReview
I don`t beleive this has much to do with the Kyrgyzstan goverenment. I think they are going to try to close the US base down simply to please the Russians.
Nick2008
Well, what do you know, one president overthrown, and here's another being overthrown. This isn't the first time the country starts getting politically unrest, these people really like overthrowing each other.

5 years ago, they overthrew President Askar Akayev due to corruption, and elected President Kurmanbek Bakiyev because he promised to end corruption in the nation. What do you know? The corruption got worse and now Kyrgyzstan is overthrowing Bakiyev.

Quote:

I don`t beleive this has much to do with the Kyrgyzstan goverenment. I think they are going to try to close the US base down simply to please the Russians.


Is this why the Kyrgyz are killing each other and destroying their own capital city? Because of a US base????

The country has unofficially split in two, the North and the South. The North follows Bakiyev and the south supports the new government.
ocalhoun
Nick2008 wrote:
Well, what do you know, one president overthrown, and here's another being overthrown. This isn't the first time the country starts getting politically unrest, these people really like overthrowing each other.


...Says the guy from a country that has one 'overthrow' and one attempted rebellion in its relatively short history.
deanhills
Nick2008 wrote:
Well, what do you know, one president overthrown, and here's another being overthrown. This isn't the first time the country starts getting politically unrest, these people really like overthrowing each other.
If one looks at the map there are so many ***stans around, all they need is to juggle the ***stans for US Bases. May even be more practical given that some of the ***stans are much closer to Afghanistan.
Nick2008
ocalhoun wrote:

...Says the guy from a country that has one 'overthrow' and one attempted rebellion in its relatively short history.


Ugh.., what? Confused

deanhills wrote:

If one looks at the map there are so many ***stans around, all they need is to juggle the ***stans for US Bases. May even be more practical given that some of the ***stans are much closer to Afghanistan.


That is true, but you can't just "juggle" them around and make decisions off the bat. Not all of the ***stans may be willing to have a foreign military base on their soil.
ocalhoun
Nick2008 wrote:
ocalhoun wrote:

...Says the guy from a country that has one 'overthrow' and one attempted rebellion in its relatively short history.


Ugh.., what? Confused


The revolution and the civil war... Americans also have a little bit of fondness for 'overthrow'.
deanhills
Nick2008 wrote:
That is true, but you can't just "juggle" them around and make decisions off the bat. Not all of the ***stans may be willing to have a foreign military base on their soil.
Well said, but they already have bases in Afghanistan and Pakistan, so if they can have two more in the other ***stans, this should help to secure those bases more. I.e. solidify their power in other areas as well.
ocalhoun wrote:
Nick2008 wrote:
ocalhoun wrote:

...Says the guy from a country that has one 'overthrow' and one attempted rebellion in its relatively short history.
Ugh.., what? Confused

The revolution and the civil war... Americans also have a little bit of fondness for 'overthrow'.

Surely that is not "recent". Although I guess we should not talk too quickly, the tea parties seem to be getting much more heated than they have been before.
ocalhoun
deanhills wrote:

ocalhoun wrote:
Nick2008 wrote:
ocalhoun wrote:

...Says the guy from a country that has one 'overthrow' and one attempted rebellion in its relatively short history.
Ugh.., what? Confused

The revolution and the civil war... Americans also have a little bit of fondness for 'overthrow'.

Surely that is not "recent". Although I guess we should not talk too quickly, the tea parties seem to be getting much more heated than they have been before.

Relatively recent... Neither is in living memory any more, but both are still recent enough to affect the culture. (As demonstrated by the tea parties... and the anti-war protests under Bush.)
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