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weableandbob
Valve recently announced that they will be releasing Steam and all of their Source engine games on Mac. I personally don't think there's any real reason to, as the amount of money they'll make doesn't seem like enough to offset the amount of time they have to take to make everything compatible. What are your thoughts?
QrafTee
I think they should've put their resources in developing a new game engine or a new iteration of the Source engine. Mac users who want to play games already know how to use Bootcamp.
Ankhanu
Macs are becoming more and more popular, especially now that they're available readily in major retailers and their prices are more in line with similarly capable/quality IBM-type systems... They *MAY* come to turn a good profit from Mac users over time (though not immediately) by developing for Mac, allowing Mac owners to run their games in the native Mac environment rather than Bootcamp (I've never been a big fan of Bootcamp).

That said, yeah, I kind of agree that focusing on general engine development might be a better priority... though chances are they're doing both. Dedicate one team to Mac development, another (probably larger) team to new engine development.
bensrevenge
now that it has come to mac please valve bring it to linux theres not much gaming tech for linux and if it went it would be good anyway i always steam is a windows thing i guess not
Insanity
I think they're just trying to appeal to a wider swath of people. It used to be that Macs weren't all that popular and were usually seen to be second to PCs. But now with the popularity of the Macbook, iPod touch, iPhone and what not, Macs are now seen to be even more hip than before. So I think this is just one way of trying to satisfy one portion of their target demographic. It doesn't make sense for such a big video game company like Valve to not support an operating system that is so widely used by so many of their players. The result is that they have had to resort to telling people to use Bootcamp or whatever in order to play the games, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I don't know how much it will cost to do so, but really, it's been a long time coming now.
Ankhanu
Insanity wrote:
It used to be that Macs weren't all that popular and were usually seen to be second to PCs.


In the home computer/gaming world, yeah, you're right... but don't ignore the fact that within the scientific research community Macs held far more sway than PCs for a very long time.
QrafTee
Ankhanu wrote:
Insanity wrote:
It used to be that Macs weren't all that popular and were usually seen to be second to PCs.


In the home computer/gaming world, yeah, you're right... but don't ignore the fact that within the scientific research community Macs held far more sway than PCs for a very long time.
I think you mean media producers use Macs, which is true.
Ankhanu
bensrevenge wrote:
now that it has come to mac please valve bring it to linux theres not much gaming tech for linux and if it went it would be good anyway i always steam is a windows thing i guess not


A linux version probably wouldn't be too much different from a Mac version. If Valve doesn't make the Linux version, I'm sure some industrious open sourcer would be able to convert it well enough, given some time Wink

QrafTee wrote:
Ankhanu wrote:
Insanity wrote:
It used to be that Macs weren't all that popular and were usually seen to be second to PCs.


In the home computer/gaming world, yeah, you're right... but don't ignore the fact that within the scientific research community Macs held far more sway than PCs for a very long time.
I think you mean media producers use Macs, which is true.


That too Smile But, no, I did mean research; the sciences.
LostOverThere
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A linux version probably wouldn't be too much different from a Mac version. If Valve doesn't make the Linux version, I'm sure some industrious open sourcer would be able to convert it well enough, given some time Wink

Yeah, a Linux version is definitely the one I'm hanging out most for. I'm sure it would do wonders for the OS too. Smile
Diablosblizz
LostOverThere wrote:
Yeah, a Linux version is definitely the one I'm hanging out most for. I'm sure it would do wonders for the OS too. Smile


If Steam were to migrate over to Mac (which it is) or Linux you're not going to be able to play any of the games that are made for Windows properly. Either all games will have to be rewritten, or you'll have to wait for new games.
LostOverThere
Quote:
If Steam were to migrate over to Mac (which it is) or Linux you're not going to be able to play any of the games that are made for Windows properly. Either all games will have to be rewritten, or you'll have to wait for new games.

Still, it encourages cross platform development. Besides, Valve are porting many of their titles (Team Fortress 2, Portal, Half-Life series) across to Mac to give it a kick start. This is good news. Smile
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