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Bondings
I just saw Avatar yesterday evening in 3D. It's probably one of the best movies I've ever seen. Sure the story is cliché and somewhat predictable. But that doesn't make it less great at all, in my opinion. I especially loved the stunning beauty of Pandora and the flying scenes.

Anyway, I'd love to see a sequel, if only for more of the stunning graphics.

James Cameron has indicated that he indeed intends to make a sequel:
MTV interview wrote:
In a pre-opening discussion with MTV News, Cameron spoke at length about his plans for his burgeoning sci-fi franchise and where the story will pick up following the first film's game-changer of an ending: ...


And luckily it's not going to take as long as Avatar to make, or at least Cameron plans to reduce the time it takes. But still I guess it will be a few years before the sequel.
adri
Well I haven't seen the movie yet, but I saw a 'reportage' (sort of actually) on JimTV (a Belgian Music / Video Channel) about the making of. I was pretty impressed about the the making but also about the trailer that they showed. So I'm pretty eager to see this movie in the cinema.

I hope it won't let me down. Smile



Adri
Diablosblizz
Such an epic movie, but I don't see how they could continue the series anymore which really saddens me. Then again, Cameron is genius and he'll work it out! Going to probably see it again / buy it!
lagoon
With any other movie, I would have ended up bored after two and a half hours, but I was still desperate for more after three hours of this! That is very rare indeed!
snowboardalliance
I'm planning on seeing it soon as I've heard nothing but good things
Bondings
Yesterday I went to watch it again, this time in the normal digital (non-3D) version. It's still good, but 3D really seems to add something, it seems way more real.
Enterprise
There were a couple little things about it that bothered me about it, mainly to do with the animation of Grace's Avatar's face. It just didn't always look quite right, slipping right into uncanny valley at times, but none of the other characters ever had that problem so I'm not quite sure what went wrong there. Oh, did anyone else notice the minor mistake when Jake is talking to the army dude after his first time in his avatar and they're looking at the 3D map? Jake's arms would change position every time the camera view switched. Bugged the hell outta me, but at least it only did that for about half a minute. Overall I loved the movie, and though the plot wasn't completely original feeling, there was enough original stuff to really make it it's own, and the graphics, as has been mentioned, were stunning. It definitely sets a new standard for use of 3D, I hope other directors and movie makers take note!
Rajiev
I didn't watch the movie, but watched the trailers and all, wow

usually I DO NOT watch trailers since it spoils the surprise of the movie.
But this time I was soo hooked that I go on to read the details about Na'vis and all those machines they are described in the site.

I cant wait till it get in to DVD and in to theaters of my country. Too bad that we don't have large 3D theaters that could host Avatar in 3D.

You know, that it is more correct to write Avatar as "Avathar" to resemble the pronouncing ?
Schyllic
I just saw Avatar and absolutely loved it. I want to go back again, and again to drink it all in, to bask in the loveliness.
Rajiev
Schyllic wrote:
I just saw Avatar and absolutely loved it. I want to go back again, and again to drink it all in, to bask in the loveliness.


Thats my boy.

Producers love that kind of spirit Smile

The Only movie I've repeated is MAtrix. ANd I watch it over 20 time or so :p
nam_siddharth
I watched this movie in a non-3D theater but not from start. I watched it when about 30 minutes were already passed. It was the last show of this movie in the theater, so I had no choice, but to watch the movie from middle. I have no clue how the Avatar of Hero was created, and how it reached to that planet. Nevertheless I loved this movie. It is really an awesome movie. It is one of the best movies I have ever watched. I will for sure watch the movie again, and from beginning this time. Laughing
speeDemon
wow, i really wish I could've watched the movie in 3D, but well..
I've heard that yo can watch it in 3D in yor home too, bt only if you have an HD Plasma screen, and some stuff, is that true???
desonium
speeDemon wrote:
wow, i really wish I could've watched the movie in 3D, but well..
I've heard that yo can watch it in 3D in yor home too, bt only if you have an HD Plasma screen, and some stuff, is that true???


I don't know, but that would be great, because I don't have time to go to the cinema.
Bondings
desonium wrote:
speeDemon wrote:
wow, i really wish I could've watched the movie in 3D, but well..
I've heard that yo can watch it in 3D in yor home too, bt only if you have an HD Plasma screen, and some stuff, is that true???


I don't know, but that would be great, because I don't have time to go to the cinema.

Normally, you would also need those special 3D glasses and it certainly won't be as good as in the cinema. I think this really is something that the cinema has a big advantage in comparison to seeing a film at home.

Quote:
I watched this movie in a non-3D theater but not from start. I watched it when about 30 minutes were already passed. It was the last show of this movie in the theater, so I had no choice, but to watch the movie from middle. I have no clue how the Avatar of Hero was created, and how it reached to that planet. Nevertheless I loved this movie. It is really an awesome movie. It is one of the best movies I have ever watched. I will for sure watch the movie again, and from beginning this time. Laughing

What I also liked about the movie, is the amount of detail put into it. Pretty much every sentence or action has a lot of thought put into it, things you likely won't understand/notice the first time you see the movie. So watching it again is instead of boring (usually when watching a movie another time), almost as good as it was the first time.

I also love all the science of this movie. Unlike most (if not all) other movies, it makes a lot of sense and is very realistic. If you remember the sacred valley with the tree with the lights at the center, there are a lot of rocks in the shape of a (half) ring/oval. Those rocks were formed that way due to the magnetic field. Things like that make me love this movie.
Rajiev
Quote:
Normally, you would also need those special 3D glasses and it certainly won't be as good as in the cinema. I think this really is something that the cinema has a big advantage in comparison to seeing a film at home.


What is the technology used ? could you just gimme names (even) so i can go on searching Smile

Quote:


What I also liked about the movie, is the amount of detail put into it. Pretty much every sentence or action has a lot of thought put into it, things you likely won't understand/notice the first time you see the movie. So watching it again is instead of boring (usually when watching a movie another time), almost as good as it was the first time.

I also love all the science of this movie. Unlike most (if not all) other movies, it makes a lot of sense and is very realistic. If you remember the sacred valley with the tree with the lights at the center, there are a lot of rocks in the shape of a (half) ring/oval. Those rocks were formed that way due to the magnetic field. Things like that make me love this movie.


Totally agrees with you. Some people make science fiction films even without knowing science 101. some makes IT films without even knowing the difference of GUIs and Command lines :p I think there must be a specialist in the subject included int he crew.

the amount of finer details made me watch Matrix (I) several times. It seems like Avatar is the same Smile

When I was reading all the background stuff on avatar movie site, I thought wow... is this all these details are on the film. As to Bondings, it seems it is there Surprised then this film must be interesting Smile
Bondings
Rajiev wrote:
Quote:
Normally, you would also need those special 3D glasses and it certainly won't be as good as in the cinema. I think this really is something that the cinema has a big advantage in comparison to seeing a film at home.


What is the technology used ? could you just gimme names (even) so i can go on searching Smile

For 3D effects, the image needs to be split in 2 different images for both eyes. This can be done by projecting light with different polarity and using glasses to split it. A way of color splitting is als used in some techniques. For more information, the section of 3D glasses at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy .

Of course you can also use the glasses as 2 screens. There already exist such glasses, but ususally not high-quality and low resolution.
tchaunt
On almost every negative review, I've read "There was no storyline" or "The storyline was too cliche". Sure, there are elements that were predictable (especially the ending), but that doesn't make the movie any less enjoyable. I loved the emotion in this movie. I have never hated anyone as much as I hated the general in real life, let alone in a movie. In a matter of 1/2 an hour to an hour, I was already mad at the general. Also, it's not very often that I get a cold chill in a movie. Maybe once before, I have. With Avatar, after I started counting, I had like 14. There were a lot of powerful scenes in this movie that certainly were gorgeous.

The thing that bugged me the most was the "unobtainium". Really? We're not that dumb. Anyway, besides that, I truly can say this was one of the better, if not best, movies I've seen. The storyline development was good and paced, everything made since and didn't jump around chronologically, and the graphics were absolutely beautiful. 9.5/10 stars from me. I'll certainly be buying the DVD.

The main thing I fear for the series is Avatar 2. It can either kill all of the negative reviews, or have a good-review genocide. It's going to be interesting seeing how it works out. :/
DeltaM
Though it was a great movie Avatar with awsome grapichs and such. And sure the storyline was kinda predictable but it was still great. But the movie didn't realy end in a way that shows that it's to come a second movie. But I wouldn't say no to another awsome movie like this, just that it get to be as good as this one so it doesn't loose much like some movies that were great and they desperately makes a second one and then the second is nothing as good as the first.
soljarag
i thought Avatar was pretty good.... The story was alright, but the graphics were amazing!! it was the first movie I saw in 3D and it was cool...

I saw it on IMAX rather than the digital 3d version... it wasn't good enough for me to go pay again to compair versions...
leontius
I love this movie! But story can indeed be improved. The concept was amazing. It's a popular form of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis
Radar
Apart from the people criticising the story, and one or two plot holes, Avatar seems to be universally adored.

The only other thing that I'm seeing at the moment that creates that reaction is Wicked.

And no, I haven't yet seen either of them. Generally speaking, something needs to interest me of it's own right. Which is strange, because I love most sci-fi, but Avatar isn't doing anything for me. Weird.
missdixy
Most of the positive things I've heard about this movie from friends have to do with the visual aesthetics of the movie. I'll probably end up watching it eventually just for that!
silverdown
Im waiting for the DVD to come out so i can watch it peacfully at my computer or TV... As I hear around it a good movie ... Can't wait Smile
Bondings
Radar wrote:
Apart from the people criticising the story, and one or two plot holes, Avatar seems to be universally adored.

The only other thing that I'm seeing at the moment that creates that reaction is Wicked.

I've been searching for Wicked and couldn't really find the movie or series you mentioned, unless you mention the musical? Care to share a link to it? Smile
eday2010
I went to see the movie last night in IMAX 3D. The CGI was great and the 3D effect was great (though not as good as Monsters vs Aliens), but the movie itself was garbage. It sucked. It was one dusty, overused cliché after another. It was incredibly predictable, and after 2 hours I felt like I had been watching the movie forever.

I mean, this isn't 1993 or 1994 where you could put out a movie with a shit story and nice eye candy in order to ride on the coattails of Jurassic Park's popularity. A movie like this may have cut it back then, but not anymore. Special effects are so overused these days, as is CGI that you can't base a movie just on that. Effects and CGI have been done to death. It's enough already.

If the story for this movie was at all original, it would have been better. But this movie is the same as 300 other movies; the only difference is the setting. Had I not seen this movie in IMAX 3D and just saw it on a regular screen, I would have disliked this piece of junk even more.

At least I know I won't be going to see the sequel. Chances are it will be another movie that relies only on the special effects and churns out another story with dozens of overused clichés.
Rajiev
Bondings wrote:
Rajiev wrote:
Quote:
Normally, you would also need those special 3D glasses and it certainly won't be as good as in the cinema. I think this really is something that the cinema has a big advantage in comparison to seeing a film at home.


What is the technology used ? could you just gimme names (even) so i can go on searching Smile

For 3D effects, the image needs to be split in 2 different images for both eyes. This can be done by projecting light with different polarity and using glasses to split it. A way of color splitting is als used in some techniques. For more information, the section of 3D glasses at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy .

Of course you can also use the glasses as 2 screens. There already exist such glasses, but ususally not high-quality and low resolution.


Thanks Bondings. But (again), Too sad I cant experience this in My country ... yet

Aw, I'll surely go for this movie, to watch in a Theater Smile

Can anyone tell me when is the DVD release?
agustin
I havent watched yet.
Rajiev
agustin wrote:
I havent watched yet.


Wow,

Thats NEWS
phantombr
I saw a TV show here in Brazil, who was interviewing James Cameron while he was visiting here in our country for the growth and sustainability with some themes also connected to Amazon. And one of the questions was regarding the continuation of the movie Avatar, and he said he already has plans defined and there are only a few conversations end and that this year will be said a date for the Avatar 2.
premium
i havent seen the first one yet. everyone keeps raving on about it. so i may go and see it this weekend. is it really good in 3D or doesnt it really make a difference.
menino
Yeah Avatar is a must see... even of not for Sci-fi fans.
I had seen it in 3d and want to see it again, coz I loved it.

I'm excited to hear about avatar 2, but more excited because of the 3D coming into the industry now, lots of sci fi movies will be made. Laughing
Zaini711
In my own humble opinion, i think James Cameron have taken the same formula that make Titanic the highest film ever and apply it successfully and much better in Avatar. It is basically a story of an underdog, an outcast that fall in love with a girl of higher class and against all odds, the hero overcome all obstacle to win her love and just after they make love, a disaster strike....

But this time, it came with a happy ending.....

But in all seriousness, Avatar is a leap in cinematography and the technology and effect blend flawlessly with the storyline. This is where James Cameron emerge as a winner. He know how to use whatever tools available to him to assist him in telling a story.

Avatar is not a sci-fi movie. Avatar is just another great movie on adventure, action, human drama and emotion, love story and righteousness.
mk12327
I've seen the 3D version of this movie too. Very outstanding movie indeed. The overall storyline though cliche, is still pretty touching. Unfortunate for the characters but not for the audience, towards the ending saw the end of many of the characters in the movie, which is quite a surprise to me. Usually movies tend not to "kill" the good guys... =X
Denvis
I haven't seen Avatar [1] and you're already talking about 2. No intentions of watching it. Just a bunch of special effects. That's what I think.
LostOverThere
Denvis wrote:
I haven't seen Avatar [1]

Denvis wrote:
Just a bunch of special effects.


Yes you have, you even explained the entire movie to us. Smile
Rajiev
LostOverThere wrote:
Denvis wrote:
I haven't seen Avatar [1]

Denvis wrote:
Just a bunch of special effects.


Yes you have, you even explained the entire movie to us. Smile


Nooooooooo. I think that's is too much exaggerating Sad

When the film has received that much good comments and embarrassment by fans, I think that is too much describe the film as such Sad

Anyways, Denvis is better than other pro critics. Those critics also don't watch the movie but, go on and on giving negative comments about films... What I always wonder about this is, Why don't those so called critics go and make a film for themselves ? :p
LostOverThere
Quote:
Anyways, Denvis is better than other pro critics. Those critics also don't watch the movie but, go on and on giving negative comments about films... What I always wonder about this is, Why don't those so called critics go and make a film for themselves ? :p

Critics are there to critique films. A bad film will naturally have more criticism than a good one. That being the case, however, all critiques should note both good and bad aspects of any film.
Rajiev
LostOverThere wrote:
Quote:
Anyways, Denvis is better than other pro critics. Those critics also don't watch the movie but, go on and on giving negative comments about films... What I always wonder about this is, Why don't those so called critics go and make a film for themselves ? :p

Critics are there to critique films. A bad film will naturally have more criticism than a good one. That being the case, however, all critiques should note both good and bad aspects of any film.


Agreed,
totally Smile
phantombr
Reading-related news director James Cameron, I found this, I left below translated.
How far had only heard comments about the fact, and also came here to comment on the little mention that he had made in a press conference on another topic, I thought I'd share the news source more secure.

Quote:
Producer Jon Landau said Wednesday that he and director James Cameron is thinking about a sequel to the hit movie "Avatar".

"This is the first week that I do not believe in 'Avatar'," Landau said in an interview sponsored by Matrix, an Israeli technology company, a week after the film lost to "War on Terror" the Oscar for best picture and best director.

"We are talking about a sequel to 'Avatar' and also about a little love story called 'The Dive' and a film called 'Fantastic Voyage,'" he said.

Another project the duo's "Battle Angel Alita," based on a Japanese novel, whose action unfolds in the future and is about the search for a female cyborg for self-knowledge.

Landau said a decision on what the next project the duo will be taken in the next six months.

"We always said that if the film (Avatar) were a success, we would do an 'avatar 2', but first we need to find the right theme for it. Continuations Jim Cameron has done before. It will only make one believe that it will be so good as the first, "said Landau.

But it certainly gives one to take on the upcoming movie twofold: it will be in 3D.

"I do not think we will return to make a film in 2D. Why would we do a movie in black and white, we color?" Landau said, "I think that eventually every movie will be produced in 3D."


INFO news
hersandal
I saw avatar and the movie is really awesome, is it really true that there's avatar 2 coming? this is really the movie to wait for. it's gonna be a big box office hits again.
weableandbob
Seeing as it was a big hit, I'm pretty sure they'll make a sequel just to squeeze out all the money.
Rajiev
Just finished watching the DVD Smile

I guess the DVD is not much fun as the Cinema Sad
bloodrider
i liked the first one but i don't think a second one would bring anything new...
BROCK22
yeah avatar on dvd is just like any other movie... not as good as like lord of the rings, or the old star wars movies...

avatar on the imax 3d big screen was friggin epic though
it's all about the special effects
camperkid
Avatar was shallow and predictable. It's a shame they didn't give all this awesome technology to someone who actually had an original concept. Sure it was an immersive experience, but after leaving the theatre I felt completely empty and and indifferent. In other word it was nothing but mindless entertainment.

Will there be a sequel? Sure, there was a Pocahuntas 2, wasn't there?
wowfan
first Cameron is genius,but if avatar hava 2,how could the story continue?
Attack the earth,or the war continue?
Rajiev
wowfan wrote:
first Cameron is genius,but if avatar hava 2,how could the story continue?
Attack the earth,or the war continue?


I think war continuing is a good start. At the end of the first movie, the Avatar of the main character gets fully transferred / downloaded to the the Navi body. ( as a matter of fact, finally it is not a Avatar but the original being ).

So as it says " Humans never quite" . So the Earthlings are bound to strike back at Pandora. This time they'll be equipped with heavier, meaner and more devastating machines. And they'll expect the Navi's to strike back. So they'll be prepared for that even.

All and all, I think if they want, they can sure make a sequel. Or they can do the same thing that Star trick did. Bring a film that has a previous story line Wink
phantombr
Reading an article about the Avatar hit record sales on DVD and Blu-ray, surpassing the previous record Batman - The Dark Knight, I found a piece that spoke of the continuation of the movie. I let down the translation, and for those who want the link: http://www.omelete.com.br/dvd-blu-ray/avatar-bate-recorde-em-home-video-e-sequencia-do-filme- has news /

"How Avatar 2 will focus on the oceans of Pandora - something that even Cameron has said - here at Omelette speculate that maybe he resolves to take advantage of motion capture technology which will optimize for the underwater sequence in the drama based on fact. Jon Landau also commented recently that he believes Cameron will put players inside pools to capture realistic movements of swimming. In the first Avatar the technology was not available: the moment nothing Jake, Sam Worthington had to stay with the belly on a bench, pretending these movements.

In other news about Avatar second, those more difficult to ascertain and coming from dubious sources, the MarketSaw ensures that its sources in Weta (the effects company that worked the first one) say that the film will begin several years after the original and that some scenes - in other moons - will be so strange that they border on the abstract. Those same sources say that Na'Vi face a new threat: the insects of Pandora ... keep an eye on Omelet for more information."
bjornhoogeveen
I've seen avatar 3D. It was very populair here in the Netherlands. Altough, I didn't really enjoyed it. It was a nice movie, but I expected more from it. They say it is better than the Titanic. Well, it is just a very different movie, so it is hard to compare. Secondly, I just don't think it is better than Titanic. Anyway, the thing what was most disappointing was the 3D-effects. Yes some things where nice in 3D, but I expected more.. I have had seen eeh.. I forgot the name..! It was action movie with a lot of 3D effects. It was really cool, so I expected much from avatar's 3D effects. Maybe that was a thing which I could better not have done..!
proyectosGT
A sequel of Avatar? Wow, It would be great. Just we hope to see this masterpiece in theatres again. And, of course, I hope that the sequel will be better than original Avatar.... Na'avi again... wow
dude_xyx
Watched the DVD few months ago and It's one of the best movies I have watched. Great effects and everything is soo beautiful !
phantombr
I came to post some more information that I read on Avatar 2, it is only a summary of what I found most interesting, if anyone wants to read in its entirety can access http://www.omelete.com.br/cinema/avatar-2-sera-focado us-ocean-of-pandora (site in Portuguese).

Avatar 2 will continue on Pandora, but I also will prepare the ground for explorations of other planets in the Alpha Centauri AB system in the third movie (personal comment: the third movie! Here I am looking forward to the second and read the plan for the third!? Yay!)
Cameron said will expand the scope of that system and by incorporating more of it in history, but that's probably the third film. The second film will focus even Pandora's oceans to be "equally rich and diverse and crazy and imaginative" in the words of Camerom. And that also reappear environments ever seen in the first film.

And a super novelty (at least I loved it!) Avatar will relaunch in IMAX theaters in August, with six minutes of unreleased footage! (Not marvelous?).
ajitha999
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: Avatar 2
I just saw Avatar yesterday evening in 3D. It's probably one of the best movies I've ever seen. Sure the story is cliché and somewhat predictable. But that doesn't make it less great at all, in my opinion. I especially loved the stunning beauty of Pandora and the flying scenes.

Anyway, I'd love to see a sequel, if only for more of the stunning graphics.
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Starrfoxx
Anyone know if the 3D version is coming out in the theatre again or Blu-Ray? We still haven't seen this, and it's because we wanted to see it in 3D.
phantombr
I read one more information about a second film Avatar. This is referring to date!
Filmmaker James Cameron was talking about the 3-D technology at a forum in Seoul, South Korea and said that Avatar for a second estimated time of three years for production.
And again, he also said he will announce the launch within a few months!

This is, then he really will make a sequel to Avatar, and no longer producing The Dive and Battle Angel (like to understand that in some interviews).
gonzales
Its very good movie, especially for children too young and I want to see what movie. It is a film that must be experienced in 3D. I really enjoyed the combination of visual human and makeup from the live action and CGI has been shown to work well.
dhani
I have seen Avatar but not in 3D.....I thought it was great. I didn't think it was that realistic and the story was quite simple. But I think it was very beautiful made. And there was an underlying message that I liked.

I have heard that there will be an Avatar 2 and that the environment in that movie will be totally different....a world under water. Anyone else who has that information? I cant wait to se the second one.
mukesh
I haven't seen the movie this movie but i think may must be interesting.
Starrfoxx
I haven't heard anything about the second movie. I'd still be interested in seeing the first one in 3D, though.
saradabakesh
Starrfoxx wrote:
I haven't heard anything about the second movie.


Starrfoxx, same as here with me also. As I also have not heard about the second one as I have heard the Avatar which is 3D and I really like that movie that much as I also want to say you that I loved the look on the Pandora jungle and it must be the best scenery in film history.
rogue_skydragon
A sequel should not happen.

I've seen the first one, and for all it's visually spectacular grandeur, the story is one that should simply end where it did. Firstly because I think it was a terrible story in general, and secondly because it was one that seemed very finite, aka a story which didn't have much to expand on.
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