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Tea Party more popular than Republican Party





handfleisch
The Republican Party would lose to a non-existent party, according to this Rasmussen poll (which is biased in favor of the right wing, so the situation might be even worse for the Repubs at this point.)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30298.html
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Should the “Tea Party” movement organize itself to run congressional candidates across the country, it would poll better than the Republican Party, according to a new survey by Rasmussen Reports.

In the national telephone poll of 1,000 likely voters released Monday, 23 percent said they preferred to vote for a candidate from the yet unformed “Tea Party” for Congress in 2010. The Republican Party trailed the non-existent political organization by 5 percentage points, getting the support of 18 percent of respondents.

Democratic candidates were preferred of 36 percent.


Dems 36
Teabaggers 23
Repubs 18

But the Tea Party is splitting up into factions:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/07/tea.party/index.html
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Tea Party movement threatened by internal rifts

Washington (CNN) -- It emerged in anger and it threatens to split in anger.

One major group in the Tea Party movement -- named after the famous Boston Tea Party -- is set to host its first convention in February, with former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin as its keynote speaker.

But there are fractures in the movement that threaten its future. And if history's any guide, such movements tend to flame out.

The Tea Party movement erupted on April 15 -- tax day -- over criticism of President Obama's economic policies and what organizers called big government out of control. The movement, made up of local, state and national groups, continues to protest what it considers fiscally unsound policies.

And the movement is well funded. Action groups like FreedomWorks -- chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey -- helped organize and fund its April 15 rally in Washington.

Other groups, including Americans for Prosperity, Tea Party Nation and Tea Party Patriots, are also vying for the helm of the movement, and it's creating what some are calling "competitive chaos."

Some Tea Partiers have voiced anger and concern over whether the powerful groups are "astroturfing'' what is supposed to be a grass-roots coalition -- the idea that the movement is being organized by old-fashioned GOP bigwigs to promote their agenda.

Donna Klink, of the Golden Triangle Tea Party-Texas, said in a post on the Tea Party Patriots Web site that the chaos needs to be addressed.

"We must craft a simple coalition message that we can all agree on. ... We should all remember the simple principles of 'Strength in Numbers' and 'United We Stand, Divided We Fall,' " she wrote.
Alaskacameradude
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The Republican Party would lose to a non-existent party, according to this Rasmussen poll (which is biased in favor of the right wing, so the situation might be even worse for the Repubs at this point.)


How is this poll 'biased in favor of the right wing?' I'm not saying it is or isn't, just wondering
how you decided that it was?
handfleisch
Alaskacameradude wrote:
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The Republican Party would lose to a non-existent party, according to this Rasmussen poll (which is biased in favor of the right wing, so the situation might be even worse for the Repubs at this point.)


How is this poll 'biased in favor of the right wing?' I'm not saying it is or isn't, just wondering
how you decided that it was?


Thanks for the question. Previously we have cited the well-known fact that Rasmussen's methodology skews their results favorably toward the right. We would have to find that thread for the link to get more details, or do a new search for the info, which I don't have time for right now
ocalhoun
I think I already have predicted that both major parties will loose seats in the next election...

People lost faith in the Republicans under Bush, and people are loosing faith in the Democrats as we speak... The next election will be time for the rise of the 3rd parties.
deanhills
ocalhoun wrote:
The next election will be time for the rise of the 3rd parties.
Sounds like the equivalent of people bashing their heads against the same wall for decades and finally realizing that doing it the same way with the same two political parties is really not working that very well. A major change is needed.

Thing is, if a third party should make serious headway, and perhaps in 20 years or more get in, would it not be much of the same? I just get this feeling that the political system with its centuries of legislation and layers and layers of rules and regulations, and enormous debt, is drowning everything else. The party cannot really make a difference. Like an operating system that has become outdated and maybe the hard disk has to be completely reformatted? Not only on the Federal level but on the State level too. Perhaps a special committee along the lines of the Founding Fathers needs to be nominated to do some serious rethinking about whether the system is really working well, and what tune-ups are needed. The practice of having a Government in place for four years, and a President that can only really be effective 18 months of the four years before he has to start thinking along re-election lines has to be detrimental. Almost like having a lame-duck President for a significant portion of his Presidency, and then people blaming the President for not being effective and thinking the next President will make a difference, whereas the political system that has become so enormous and heavy is responsible for a great portion of the "ineffectiveness".
ocalhoun
deanhills wrote:

Thing is, if a third party should make serious headway, and perhaps in 20 years or more get in, would it not be much of the same? I just get this feeling that the political system with its centuries of legislation and layers and layers of rules and regulations, and enormous debt, is drowning everything else. The party cannot really make a difference. Like an operating system that has become outdated and maybe the hard disk has to be completely reformatted? Not only on the Federal level but on the State level too. Perhaps a special committee along the lines of the Founding Fathers needs to be nominated to do some serious rethinking about whether the system is really working well, and what tune-ups are needed. The practice of having a Government in place for four years, and a President that can only really be effective 18 months of the four years before he has to start thinking along re-election lines has to be detrimental. Almost like having a lame-duck President for a significant portion of his Presidency, and then people blaming the President for not being effective and thinking the next President will make a difference, whereas the political system that has become so enormous and heavy is responsible for a great portion of the "ineffectiveness".

No, electing third parties can't fix everything.

What it can do:
1- Give more choice. 3 or more choices is always preferable to 2 choices. (And more competition means better offerings, always. It would make politicians focus on being the best, instead of just being better than the other guy.)
2- Relieve some of the government bloat and corruption... Without a 'reboot' (revolution).
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