If you follow soccer (football to everyone outside the US), then you have heard and seen the controversial score by France due to the blatant handball by Thierry Henry in the France/Ireland game on 18 November 2009. I don't think there is any question that Henry handled the ball on the play in question but I think this brings up a topic for discussion: official review.
For those that follow American football, you will have noticed the increased presence of official review of a play and the overturning of a ruling on the field. During the 2009 NFL season, I've noticed an increased usage of this option by the officials. While I get very excited when a ruling is overturned in my teams favor, I find myself frustrated with the disturbance this causes to the flow of a game. This incident with Henry could start a movement for official review of replays in international soccer. No doubt the officials were unable to see the hand ball but isn't that just part of playing a sport. Sometimes calls go in your favor and sometimes they don't. If you play sports long enough, eventually it all balances out.
I'm sure there will be some of you out there that demand justice and I'm all for it (especially in this case because justice would be against France ), but I think we should all keep in mind the possibility of instant replay becoming more common place in professional sports.
It would slow the game down... It would not be a good thing.
No, I mean, although it was probably against sporting ethics and so on, whether what Henry did was right or wrong is still debatable. He did not break the rules of football - he played to the whistle. And that is no crime.
Even though I do not like France that much, I feel that it is fair not to have a replay. That would be like killing football if we had petty reasons such as this.
it seems unfair for France to qualify this way, but if FIFA allows replay only because of this type of decision ( though it costed possibly million dollars and a place in World Cup finals for Ireland), then everytime there's a bad decision in a match that causes someone to lose, then they would appeal for reply and FIFA would what, granted every request? it would be a total chaos if it happens. A better resolution I think would be increasing the number of official such as putting one in each behind the goal line. Or of course introducing video technology.
Again, as I said, introducing video technology kills the game !
i just watched it on youtube, im not a big soccer fan, but that was clearly a handball, and france should not have drawn that game
I think it's just the matter of time before vidoe techs are incorporated into the game. With the advanced of technology, it's hard to see why it couldn't help football. FIFA could carefully design a system where the process of reviewing fouls wouldn't be too interrupting the game. Better to waste 5 minutes in a whole game for reviewing fouls than let the wrong decisions (especially the major ones) ruin the game.
While I feel that the integration of official review is inevitable, I hope that FIFA works very hard to limit the interruption to the flow of the game. One of the things that I enjoy most about football (soccer) is that there are very few breaks in the game. Unlike baseball, american football, and basketball, the sport of football (soccer) is very smooth.
I do hope that video review and play back stays out of the sport for as long as possible.
I agree with your statements that if they replayed this game, it could set a precedent for future disputes. I think you are correct that FIFA has done the correct thing by not replaying the game; however, I do still sympathize with Ireland because they were robbed of potentially winning that game. Of course it was not guaranteed that they would have won but they would not have lost like that.
From my point of view, it was clearly a handball. But, there was a lot of players between the referee and Henry, so, I understand that he could not see the handball.
It wasn't fair, but that's football, you have to live through referee's mistakes.
Is it true that it is a possibility that FIFA are considering allowing an extra team - Ireland - to participate in WC 2010 ? That is just insane ! 33 teams and one group with 5 teams ! That's outrageous even !
Official review..... not a good idea. However, I could see an on-the-fly goal line system being a good investment to the game.
I would like to add something up. As I see it, it's not fair to play the match again, Ireland has to move on. If FIFA allows them to play the match again, then, the final between England and Germany in 1966 should be played again, because of Hurst goal...
but i sware that they got their rematch because some one important got involved
Did they get their rematch? Last I heard, FIFA denied the request. Do you have an article or something that talks about a rematch?
oh sorry no they didint get it
I am French. And I am soccer fan. I support French team.
I have to say that I was really upset with the Henry's handball. I think, FFF and Domenech should have propose to replay the match. But I think I was impossible because If we do it once, we have to do it for all referies mistakes. And what nobody says is Ireland got a penalty (mistake) against Georgia before and that's why they could play this match.
So the only way to avoid this is official review. But I think about someting like oak eye in tennis. Each team could choose 3 oak eyes during the match. An other way is to begin slowly, for instance just begin with checking if the ball was really in.
Now more and more people want video but because Platini doesn't want it is not possible. I think football has to elect video because it it doesn't it would be worst and worst.
The video referee is used in Rugbly League and cricket; two sports I love to watch.
No-one can possibly say those sports have been spoiled by a pause now and then of 60 seconds or so for important decisions to be checked & doudle checked.
All spectators leave feeling all the big decisions were got right, and no controversy ensues.
Infact, to an extent, it's now become an interesting part of the game for the spectator.
I'd welcome it for penalty decisions, debatable goals etc.
The handball came in extra time..
So i prefer to replay only the extra time..
I appreciate your comments here, but do not necessarily agree. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could win each game. Everyone's fans could go home happy and we wouldn't have any losers. I find this to be a growing problem (in American society anyway) with kids in school. Some parents and administrators think it is unfair or too harsh for kids to face loss so they structure games and events so everyone wins. I'll proudly be the bearer of the news that in life not everyone is a winner. There are losers and it sucks. It sucks but it only makes you appreciate the moments when you win.
It sucks that France won on a questionable goal. I've also come to agree with FIFA in not replaying the game because they would eventually have to replay every game to make sure no bad referee calls were made. You wouldn't know who won a game for weeks while an analyst in an office somewhere makes the final decision that it was free and clear of any potential bad calls.
I'm also appalled that schools don't teach kids there has to be a loser, and "Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could win each game. Everyone's fans could go home happy and we wouldn't have any losers" (which I didn't say/mean) is also nonsense....I hate to lose, but accept it if I/my team lost fairly....rather than stew for ages and ages - Maradonna, the greatest player of our generation) is still detested here in England for his cheating handball goal against us in the World Cup, and yes, it still irritates the life out of me that we could well have won that tournament with video referees....would have taken 10 seconds flat to prove he was cheating, but save years of resentment.
I love to give opponents a thrashing, but don't want to do it unfairly, that leaves a hollow feeling where there should be delight.
wellerchap - Isn't half the fun of sports the rivalries that probably get generated through questionable calls over many years. I'm a Yankee fan and I know that Red Sox fans hate the Yankees because they won for so many years (and now they are back on top! YEA!). I still don't like the idea of official review in sports.
sure, for Ireland's sake. Henry is no longer a respectable player in my book.
At least he admitted that he handled the ball. If he had tried to deny it, that would have be the end of him in professional futball.
What thiery henry did can be likened to what Diego Maradonah Did During 1986 World Cup. In Football anything can happen, it depends on the referre on how Vigilant and how sharp his reflex action is. Though it is quite not good what henry did. but anybody in his position can do likewise at that time. so henry should not be blamed.