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9/11 suspects finally to be brought to trial ...





deanhills
Looks as though the GITMO 9/11 suspects are being processed and finally being brought to trial in New York. And US expects to seek death penalty for the suspects. They will be brought to trial in a court house in New York, eight years after they have been apprehended. Hopefully it will be safe for the suspects to be transferred to New York. Some people are fearful that this may precipitate terror attacks in New York. Others are concerned that the lawyers of the suspects may create "martyrs" out of the suspects.
Quote:
Attorney General Eric Holder announced the long-awaited and politically fraught decision at a news conference Friday. He also said five other Guantanamo detainees, including a major suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, will be tried through the military commission process.

Formal charges have not been formulated against most of them and it is expected that this will take some weeks to fall into place.
ocalhoun
deanhills wrote:
Others are concerned that the lawyers of the suspects may create "martyrs" out of the suspects.

Oh, they probably are martyrs... But if your religion says you should commit mass murder, then you have to face the consequences of that, martyr or not.
deanhills
ocalhoun wrote:
deanhills wrote:
Others are concerned that the lawyers of the suspects may create "martyrs" out of the suspects.

Oh, they probably are martyrs... But if your religion says you should commit mass murder, then you have to face the consequences of that, martyr or not.
Maybe I did not communicate this right. The concern was expressed by the relatives of the victims of 9/11 in New York that attorneys would make these guys look like "victims", while they are being heard in New York, rather than the out and out murderers they have been. Probably going to open up a lot of wounds and anger in New York. I guess the media is going to have a field day over this, not to mention the GITMO can of worms will be opened up all over again as well and every political party will capitalize on the hearings to their own advantage.
ocalhoun
deanhills wrote:
attorneys would make these guys look like "victims", while they are being heard in New York, rather than the out and out murderers they have been.

That's what attorneys do.
handfleisch
After eight years, we finally bring this man to justice. It's a real testament to how Obama is trying to bring the rule of law bring back to the USA.
ocalhoun
handfleisch wrote:
After eight years, we finally bring this man to justice. It's a real testament to how Obama is trying to bring the rule of law bring back to the USA.

When he just said that he won't meet his own deadline for taking care of Gitmo?
deanhills
handfleisch wrote:
After eight years, we finally bring this man to justice. It's a real testament to how Obama is trying to bring the rule of law bring back to the USA.
Rubbish, Obama is hardly responsible for bringing back rule of law to USA! How on earth did GITMO get unwrapped by the United States media and people in the first place? It had already been brought to the table before Obama took office. In fact lately one could say that the GITMO victims will be tried, in spite of delay after delay by Obama. The article that was quoted was only an announcement that a hearing will take place some time in the dizzy future. And that is after these guys had been detained for eight years. By the time the hearing is completed it would probably be past 10 or more years. This year as a statistic, well and truly belongs to Obama.
handfleisch
deanhills wrote:
handfleisch wrote:
After eight years, we finally bring this man to justice. It's a real testament to how Obama is trying to bring the rule of law bring back to the USA.
Rubbish, Obama is hardly responsible for bringing back rule of law to USA! How on earth did GITMO get unwrapped by the United States media and people in the first place? It had already been brought to the table before Obama took office. In fact lately one could say that the GITMO victims will be tried, in spite of delay after delay by Obama.

LOL. Thanks. I mean it. I don't laugh out loud often enough but this one did the trick.
mathiaus
I don't know too much about law in the USA, how long are the cases expected to take before a verdict is reached. Will it be a short week trial, slightly longer month trial or will it go on and on for months?

Also, who decides? Will it be one judge or a jury and who does that jury consist of?
ocalhoun
mathiaus wrote:
I don't know too much about law in the USA, how long are the cases expected to take before a verdict is reached. Will it be a short week trial, slightly longer month trial or will it go on and on for months?

Well, it depends on how simple the case is.
A simple case might be closed in just hours, and this one might be a simple case if the accused continues to admit to the crime openly. However, if he chooses to take every legal recourse available, the trail could go on for a very long time, many months... and then he could probably appeal to a higher court and start it all over again. Given the high profile of the case, the higher court probably wouldn't deny the appeal.
deanhills
mathiaus wrote:
I don't know too much about law in the USA, how long are the cases expected to take before a verdict is reached. Will it be a short week trial, slightly longer month trial or will it go on and on for months?

Also, who decides? Will it be one judge or a jury and who does that jury consist of?
Crucial question would be when the hearings would start. So far the Attorney General has not even filed the case yet, they are still working on putting it together. The only thing that has been done, probably for political reasons to placate those critical of Obama's delays in getting the GITMO detainees processed, is approval for the case to go forward. Once the case has been set for a hearing, it could take any length of time. It could be very quick depending on the availability of evidence and negotiations that can be reached with the defense lawyers, or very long. The longer it takes of course, the more money the defense lawyers get to make out of it.

Edit after listening to the news tonight:
Heard on the news tonight that there is a large controversy going on between those in New York who prefer the 9/11 suspects to get a Military Tribunal and those who prefer them to get a civilian hearing as decided by Obama. The ones favouring a Military Tribunal, including ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani and family of the victims of 9/11 prefer a swift military tribunal, that will be quick and over almost immediately. They feel that enough damage has been done to the New York people and a civilian hearing would make them suffer a second time round. Perhaps they have a good point.
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