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chatrack
Hi ,

Suppose you are in a closed lift. You dont know whether it is moving.

How will you understand that if the lift is:

1. Moving down uniformily
or
2. Moving Up unifirmily
or
3. Lift is at rest

The commen thing in above three cases is that
we do not feel any change in weight in our body.

Then how will you find motion status of the lift Question

Arrow Please Share your ideas Idea
Indi
Do you mean closed in the theoretical sense, or just closed in the common sense. Because even though you can't see out of a closed elevator when it is moving, any signal that gets in can be used to measure motion, provided you know that the signal is stationary (or, if not, you know how it is moving). A sensitive enough meter to measure the magnetic field (for instance), could tell you how the elevator is moving with respect to the Earth.

Another technique, if you can take a reading before the elevator is sealed, is to use inertial measurements to keep track of your movements. This is how rockets' and weapons' guidance systems work.

But you have a problem of definition. You ask how you will know the lift is moving... but you never say relative to what. "Moving" means nothing without a frame of reference.
nilsmo
If everything inside the lift can't interact with anything from outside the lift, then you'd have no way of detecting whether the outside is moving at 10000m/s or 0m/s, so you can't determine the "motion status."

If you can somehow interact with stuff outside the lift (e.g. a magnetic field as Indi said) then you may be able to determine how fast the lift is moving.

Implicitly I've assumed moving means moving RELATIVE to stuff outside the lift. This is the matter of definition Indi mentioned. For example, if I'm walking forward at 5 m/s, you could say I'm NOT moving but that the Earth is moving backward at 5 m/s.
ocalhoun
You just listen for the mechanical noise of the pulleys and cables moving it of course! ^.^

In addition to magnetic fields, you could also measure gravitational fields, with sensitive enough measurements.
If there is no gravitational field present, you've at least solved part of the problem: you still don't know if it is at rest or moving, but without gravity, asking if it is going up or down is meaningless.
xalophus
chatrack wrote:
Suppose you are in a closed lift. You dont know whether it is moving.

Call for help !

Because if you're in a closed lift and can't remember how or why you got there - figuring out if you're moving or stationary should be the least of your concerns.

If you're doing this as part of some sort of experiment for the sake of science - first you'll need to define your frame of reference.
I'll assume you mean the movement of the lift as relative to the rest of the building.
Next you'll need to tell us what kind of outside information(?) can reach you at the moment (air pressure ? magnetic fields ? electro-magnetic waves ?)
Based on this input you can employ various instruments to get the desired result.
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