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Status of conflict between India and Pakistan vs Taliban?





deanhills
What is the current status of the conflict between India and Pakistan? In your opinion, does this conflict have a distracting influence on Pakistan so that it is not sufficiently concentrating on sorting out the Taliban?

This question started in a thread:"Is China starting to occupy India?"
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-110952.html#923676

It was suggested that a conflict between China and India would distract India from the Pakistan/India conflict, sofficiently so that Pakistan would be able to concentrate 100% on its conflict with the Taliban.

Would you say that the "lion share" of Pakistan's focus is on its conflict with India, therefore distracting it from its focus on getting rid of the Taliban? Refer interview below ((quoted by Ocalhoun) with Zakaria, who is a foreign affairs analyst with CNN. Do you agree with what Zakaria is saying below?

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/01/zakaria.pakistan/index.html:
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Zakaria: The Pakistani military has been in a state of denial. It spends most of its time, energy and resources planning for a war against India, a war on its eastern frontier. That's the war they know and are comfortable with -- a big conventional deployment. And for the last three decades, by seeing India as the enemy, the military could get big budgets -- they had a much larger enemy -- but also know that there is actually only a small possibility of a war.

Fighting the Taliban is a much more complicated guerrilla war against a complex insurgency. First of all, you actually have to fight this war, as opposed to the cold war with India. Secondly, if you fight it, you can lose. So, they have been trying their best not to deal with this. That's what the peace deals were all about, trying to finesse their way out of the situation. But this is now the moment of truth for the Pakistani military.

CNN: Are they equipped to deal with the Taliban?
Zakaria: If you mean, "Do they know how to do counterinsurgency?" No. Again, their whole training has been to fight a war against India. And they have not really wanted to embrace this role of counterinsurgency warfare. This is messy stuff, as we learned in Iraq.

CNN: Anything we can do?
Zakaria: Force the Pakistani military to reorient their basic strategy to recognize that these jihadi groups are the existential threat to their existence. We give the Pakistanis a huge amount of aid, both military and civilian. The military always wants more.

Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, wrote in The Wall Street Journal, "We need the U.S. to share modern technology in antiterrorist engagement. Pakistan needs night-vision equipment, jammers that can knock out FM radio transmissions by the terrorists, and a larger, modernized fleet of helicopter gunships for ground support in the massive sweeps that are necessary to contain, repel and destroy the enemy."

He goes on to indicate the United States has not been helpful. "Yet Washington has been reluctant to share this modern equipment, and to train our military in anti-terrorism techniques, because of concerns that these systems could be used against India. Such concerns are misplaced. Pakistanis understand that the primary threat to our homeland today is not from our neighbor to the east but from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) on our border with Afghanistan."
harismushtaq
It seems that India and Pakistan are never happy with each other and that is probably the reason of all the violence in the region. If they leave each other on thier own and concentrate on the development of contries and people, they may get more advanced. Not sure but both of them blame the other for introducing terrorism in thier own country.
deanhills
harismushtaq wrote:
It seems that India and Pakistan are never happy with each other and that is probably the reason of all the violence in the region. If they leave each other on thier own and concentrate on the development of contries and people, they may get more advanced. Not sure but both of them blame the other for introducing terrorism in thier own country.
Right, we all know that, however how does this compare with the Taliban threat in Pakistan? Do you think that its focus on India may be affecting its available resources, and distract it from paying full attention to the Taliban?
xalophus
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Pakistanis understand that the primary threat to our homeland today is not from our neighbor to the east but from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) on our border with Afghanistan.

No they do not.
Or we'd be seeing more cooperation from their side in bringing the 26/11 terror suspects to justice.
Just compare the Pakistani cooperation with U.S. in their "war" on terror to their handling of the Mumbai attack trials.

Pakistan simply does not want to upset their domestic terror outfits by laying so much as a finger on their top brass - it's best not to disturb the hornet's nest, as they say.
Not when you've already buried yourself neck deep in home grown crap.

And unless they're willing to show some compassion to India, they should not expect any themselves.
Not when India keeps getting attacked by Pakistan based (backed) terror, again and again, relentlessly.
That's why the troops, from both sides, must stay deployed at the common border in a perpetual cold war.

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Washington has been reluctant to share this modern equipment, and to train our military in anti-terrorism techniques, because of concerns that these systems could be used against India.

Given the history of state intelligence sponsored militant outfits in Pakistan, we certainly cannot rule out the possibility that U.S. aid intended for fight against terrorists could be used for a war against India instead.
deanhills
xalophus wrote:
Given the history of state intelligence sponsored militant outfits in Pakistan, we certainly cannot rule out the possibility that U.S. aid intended for fight against terrorists could be used for a war against India instead.
Good point, this could well be a classic Iraq Iran scenario when the United States had armed Iraq in the Iraq Iran war. I'm almost certain the US is mindful of that. Last thing they want to get involved in is a Pakistan/India conflict. If they should arm Pakistan, India most certainly would have something to say about that as well.

Thanks for your contribution. Learned quite a bit from it.
harismushtaq
This is a very sensitive topic and no one can say for sure what is the truth. Here is another consipiracy theory.

Every one is playing game of thier own interest. Some people say that Taliban is actually a US backed group and they are kept active in both Afghanistan and Pakistan to help US stay in the region and apply political pressure on the two countries. I have recently seen news in Pakistani media with some people blaming that the suicide terrorists are trained by Blackwater as the nature of attacks is very similar to what was happening in Iraq for quite some time.

Then there are people who say that it is the interest of Pakistan to keep the unrest on its north west region as it will help government and defense forces get more money from all different resources (forign aid, high taxes from poor people and not spending on other things like health and education) and eat it up and show it in the papers as expenditure on the war. New allowances have intrduced for defense personels in the recent budget and so on.

This is a consipiracy theory again with no proof but it is a beleif of lots of people in Pakistan. With all this, now how would you rate the seriousness of the conflict between india and pakistan if the above happens to be true.
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