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UFO, or an advanced spy ship...? (Iran Missile UFO video)

 


quex
How likely would it be that a UFO just happened to be passing by as Iran was testing it's short-range missiles?


More proof that somebody with Earthly priorities has something fast-as-hell for spying on other countries.
fladry
They suspet America for such machine. You said "somebody with Earthly priorities". It may also be "somebody with un-Earthly priorities". I mean real aliens Wink .
ocalhoun
Though that break in the clouds does look unusual, I wouldn't consider it proof of anything.

The best theory I've seen is that it is just the shadow of the missile's exhaust.

It certainly isn't the right shape for any type of aircraft.
What an aircraft's effect on clouds looks like:
brokenadvice
You hear them talking about "reconstructed photographs" in the video. Most likely Iran just cobbed together a video of a jet flying overhead with some clouds, and several artifacts came as a result of the forgery.
DoctorBeaver
It certainly looks a bit weird. It could be a shadow (and that is certainly the most mundane explanation) although the angles do not look quite right.

I'm not an expert on ballistics or rockets, but I assume the rocket is travelling more-or-less vertically in the clip even though it doesn't actually look as if it is. I've seen other clips where a rocket appears to be moving horizontally but when the shot is widened you can see that it is, in fact, going vertically. The line on the cloud, however, certainly appears to travel horizontally although I do appreciate that may not necessarily be the case.

What is certain, though, is that the cloud is above the rocket. This becomes obvious at the end of the clip. For the rocket to cast a shadow on the cloud, therefore, the light source would need to be behind & below the rocket. That would place it somewhere in the region of the camera. You would need a pretty strong light source to cast that kind of shadow over that distance on such a brightly sunlit day.

I shall certainly be interested to hear a definitive explanation.
DoctorBeaver
BrokenAdvice - Do I remember correctly that it was Iran that cobbled together a fake photograph of a battery of rockets somewhere when there was, in fact, only 1? I remember seeing it and there were some glaring errors in that mash up that made it very obvious.

But what would be the point of faking a video clip such as this 1? All they want to show is their rocket taking off.
quex
fladry wrote:
They suspet America for such machine. You said "somebody with Earthly priorities". It may also be "somebody with un-Earthly priorities". I mean real aliens :wink: .


I would certainly expect America, too. :D As a matter of fact, the theory that unexplained UFO sightings are the advanced/experimental technology of a nation state with an advanced military is often called, in slang, the American Hypothesis.

Until this guy starts talking about abductions, he makes the argument fairly well:

Quote:
What kind of technology does the American government posess? How can we really know? What are they hiding and why? On a day-to-day basis, we see tonnes of technology yet our exposure to the state-of-the art is limited. Hell, Microsoft is limiting us to their technology that is years old, not their new stuff. Don't you think the American government is hiding more than Bill Gates? So with their newest technology, as with any technology, it needs to be trialed. That's why people are seeing UFO'S. As I said before, we don't know what they are hiding from us and/or why, so perhaps these trials need to be top secret. If the trials require the craft to be flown in residential areas, then keeping them secret is, well, impossible...
quex
ocalhoun wrote:
Though that break in the clouds does look unusual, I wouldn't consider it proof of anything.

The best theory I've seen is that it is just the shadow of the missile's exhaust.

It certainly isn't the right shape for any type of aircraft.
What an aircraft's effect on clouds looks like:


Agreed. The shadow theory is indeed Occam's best guess, but for the question of the lighting and the angles involved. The video does clearly show the divide occurring from right to left, while we are shown the missile heading up, away, and left. Assuming the cloud is a regular formation formed in parallel to the tangent of the horizon line, this would seemingly require the ambient light source to be somewhere near/on the ground, aiming upward from behind the missile. The sun could likely not assume this position... maybe at sunrise on a cliff over a massive gorge running north to south... or not. -_-; Unless Iran was launching those things with some HUGE f*cking Kleig lights aimed at 'em, there is no apparent situation whereby that "cut" in the clouds could have been the shadow of the rocket that appears in the video. Now, if a SECOND rocket was also in the air, following a different trajectory, the whole model changes. :D
Jinx
Could it have been a meteorite? In daylight you might not be able to see the light of it's passage through the atmosphere, especially if it wasn't much bigger than, say, a marble. But I would think one might move fast enough to do that. The heat of its passage might be enough to re-vaporize the water in the cloud along its path.

I don't think it's a shadow or the rocket exhaust... the angles look wrong for that, as someone pointed out already.

Still, kinda freaky.
quex
Jinx wrote:
Could it have been a meteorite? In daylight you might not be able to see the light of it's passage through the atmosphere, especially if it wasn't much bigger than, say, a marble. But I would think one might move fast enough to do that. The heat of its passage might be enough to re-vaporize the water in the cloud along its path.


O,O!

That's fresh thinking! Again, besides arguing the (admittedly false) "rarity of coincidence" angle, that a meteor would just happen to be passing as the missiles were launched, a small meteor could indeed have punched through the clouds in that exact manor. Especially the vaporization part. I like this theory! ^_^b
coreymanshack
Looks like someone just used the erase tool to erase the cloud >.>
jabce85
The whole thing looks suspect to me.
quex
coreymanshack wrote:
Looks like someone just used the erase tool to erase the cloud >.>


Is there a video-editing erase tool that could be used that way? o_o (I know very little about video.)

I wish life came with a real-world erase tool... or an undo key. XD
pscompanies
quex wrote:
coreymanshack wrote:
Looks like someone just used the erase tool to erase the cloud >.>


Is there a video-editing erase tool that could be used that way? o_o (I know very little about video.)

I wish life came with a real-world erase tool... or an undo key. XD


I'm pretty sure video editing to that extent is possible with modern equipment.

Haha doesn't everyone wish for that? Wink
Jinx
quex wrote:

O,O!

That's fresh thinking! Again, besides arguing the (admittedly false) "rarity of coincidence" angle, that a meteor would just happen to be passing as the missiles were launched, a small meteor could indeed have punched through the clouds in that exact manor. Especially the vaporization part. I like this theory! ^_^b


The "rarity of coincidence" argument would be even less effective considering we were in the midst of the Leonid meteor shower at the time that footage was taken (I think, or maybe it was the Perseids?).

I do like the idea of a real life erase tool... but it would be far too dangerous in the wrong hands. Smile
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