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BNP being taken to court for racist membership policy

 


DoctorBeaver
The BNP (British National Party) is being taken to court by the Race Relations Board for having a racist membership policy. Apparently it has a whites only policy. There are probably many people thinking "Good. It's about time something was done about the BNP". But hold on, let's think about this.

Many years ago when I used to play in a darts team we had in our league an Irish club. Although people of any nationality were welcome there as guests, only those born in the Republic of Ireland could become members. Is there any real difference between that club's membership policy & that of the BNP apart from 1 being based on colour & the other on race (you cannot join because you're not white against you cannot join because you're not Irish)? Discrimination on both grounds is illegal in the UK so why do we despise 1 type of discrimination yet regard the other as perfectly acceptable?

Whilst I think the BNP is an abhorrent organisation with only thinly-veiled racist policies, this action raises an interesting legal issue. Should the action succeed, what would be the impact on organisations such as the Black Police Officers' Association, the Muslim Council of Great Britain, or any other organisation that represents an ethnic group?

I always get in a mental knot when I ponder such ethical questions. I think organisations like the BNP should be banned, but I also believe in free speech. I also see no problem with groups that represent minorities or that restrict their membership to members of minority groups. So, how can you apply any kind of sanction against the likes of the BNP without putting those minority groups' organisations at risk also?

If this action by the Race Relations Board is allowed to proceed it could open up a really nasty can of worms. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the BNP retaliate by taking legal action against minorities' groups on the same grounds.

I would be interested to hear other people's thoughts on this issue.
ocalhoun
DoctorBeaver wrote:


I always get in a mental knot when I ponder such ethical questions. I think organisations like the BNP should be banned, but I also believe in free speech. I also see no problem with groups that represent minorities or that restrict their membership to members of minority groups. So, how can you apply any kind of sanction against the likes of the BNP without putting those minority groups' organisations at risk also?

Simple.
There's an unwritten rule that says it's okay for minorities to be racist.
Nameless
Yeah. In Australia, I read sometimes about legal or support services for Aboriginals, and to an extent they've always annoyed me. From a pragmatic viewpoint our society is (on average) demonstratively not equal towards minorities, but setting up organisations that grant benefits only to those minorities is no less racist and even encourages further distinction between groups where we should be aiming towards equal treatment. I blame the paranoia you see from certain people trying to appear so forward thinking that they loop back around to discriminatory again. >_>

So screw any racist group, whether they're in the majority or not.
foumy6
to be honest I hate all rassist things people or companies.
Arty
What about scholarships? I guess you'll be against any scholarships that only give benefits to say...African Americans, but what about even more specific scholarships that only give benefits to tall people, blond people, and short people?
DoctorBeaver
Arty - I think you may have misunderstood my post. I am not against organisations, scholarships or anything else that benefits minority groups.

"I support any activity that promotes the interests of ethnic groups so long as it is not detrimental to any other ethnic group"

I think that sums up my views nicely.

That is, however, a digression from the topic. My reason for starting this thread is that I would like to hear other people's thoughts on the action the Race Relations Board are taking against the membership policy of the BNP. Their policy is, in essence, no different from that of the Irish club I mentioned. How can any action against the BNP not be applied to other organisations that support the interests of a single ethnic group? Would the RRB be opening a very nasty can of worms if they proceed with their action and are successful? It would set a legal precedent that other minority interest groups could fall foul of.
standready
ocalhoun wrote:
DoctorBeaver wrote:


I always get in a mental knot when I ponder such ethical questions. I think organisations like the BNP should be banned, but I also believe in free speech. I also see no problem with groups that represent minorities or that restrict their membership to members of minority groups. So, how can you apply any kind of sanction against the likes of the BNP without putting those minority groups' organisations at risk also?

Simple.
There's an unwritten rule that says it's okay for minorities to be racist.


So true ocalhoun! The US government even encourages it. They refuse to buy my patented product directly from me. I have been told by several government agenies that they would love to have my product but they must purchase it through a minority or female owned company. If the government purchased from me, someone would scream foul. I scream FOUL, nobody cares! That how we taxpayers got charged $1000 for a toilet seat.
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