Story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8219307.stm
Firstly for the record I would never advocate violence/abuse/ill-treatment of anyone (unless they hurt my family/self defence etc) because I truly wish the world was a beautiful place...although sadly it's not. I do wonder though is anyone really surprised if this story is true?
I grew up in an area where if you were arrested by the police you were guaranteed a pretty bad beating (guilty or not) either in the van/truck (prisoner transit vehicle) or later in the holding cell. It happened to me a couple of times (even after not committing a crime apart from being disrespectful to the police officers concerned) and it happened to many friends of mine.
That said, if local police unit's in so-called civilized controlled states can treat their own people so horribly, can any of us really doubt that national/international security forces would use all kinds of horrible methods to get serious terrorist suspects to talk/admit/comply???
Like I say, it's not ethically right at all, but I'm surprised the media are making such an issue out of something thats always gone on and probably always will - the answers I don't know, but your comments/thoughts would be interesting.
***EDIT***
wow, in the space of only minutes, the BBC changed the story/headline/image of the above link - exactly the same url just totally different story and images! check these screen captures out...
then...
...oh our world and media is a curious animal!
Last edited by watersoul on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
Firstly for the record I would never advocate violence/abuse/ill-treatment of anyone (unless they hurt my family/self defence etc) because I truly wish the world was a beautiful place...although sadly it's not. I do wonder though is anyone really surprised if this story is true?
I grew up in an area where if you were arrested by the police you were guaranteed a pretty bad beating (guilty or not) either in the van/truck (prisoner transit vehicle) or later in the holding cell. It happened to me a couple of times (even after not committing a crime apart from being disrespectful to the police officers concerned) and it happened to many friends of mine.
That said, if local police unit's in so-called civilized controlled states can treat their own people so horribly, can any of us really doubt that national/international security forces would use all kinds of horrible methods to get serious terrorist suspects to talk/admit/comply???
Like I say, it's not ethically right at all, but I'm surprised the media are making such an issue out of something thats always gone on and probably always will - the answers I don't know, but your comments/thoughts would be interesting.
***EDIT***
wow, in the space of only minutes, the BBC changed the story/headline/image of the above link - exactly the same url just totally different story and images! check these screen captures out...
then...
...oh our world and media is a curious animal!
Last edited by watersoul on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
