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yemenia airliner crashed with 150 aboard

 


mrcool
(from CNN) -- A Yemeni airliner with 150 people aboard has crashed in the Indian Ocean off the island nation of Comoros, an aviation official in Yemen's capital said Tuesday.


The aircraft, from the national airline Yemenia, was en route to Comoros when it crashed about an hour from its destination, an airline official said. There was no immediate news of the fate of those on board.

The Airbus A310 was en route from Yemen's capital Sanaa to Moroni, the capital of Comoros, and most of the passengers were Comoran, an official at Sanaa's international airport said. Moroni is about 2,900 kilometers (1,800 miles) south of Yemen, off the east coast of Africa.

"We don't know if there are any survivors among the 150 people on the plane," Comoros Vice President Idi Nadhoim told Reuters.

----so sad another airbus crashed again...and too scary to ride a plane now a days... i just hope they will find survivors...
deanhills
I believe they found one survivor, a five-year old in the water. Pretty amazing! Another tragedy though. Wonder what happened.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_plane_crash
atul2242
I fly a lot.....
ocalhoun
mrcool wrote:


...and too scary to ride a plane now a days...

And something around 17,000 cars crashed yesterday... aren't you afraid to ride in them, too?
deanhills
Looks as though there is no confirmation of the 5-year old that was supposed to be rescued yesterday. But there is a new one for a 14-year old girl that was rescued, which has to be a miracle. It would appear that this is one of those nightmare aviation cases where the plane was very old and perhaps on its last legs. There is the possibility that Yemenia Airways was using pirated spare parts, instead of the real ones, and that sounds very familiar to me. In the Middle East they are notorious for selling pirated "brand" parts, and the worst part is that one pays for "brand" prices. So never know what you are really getting. Further comments are weather was bad, and airport in Comoros did not have sufficient electronic equipment to be of much help to the plane.

One thing for sure, I will not be using Yemenia Airways.
nigam
thats good to hear there's a survivor......well, they maybe find more survivors in a few days......
mrcool
ocalhoun wrote:
mrcool wrote:


...and too scary to ride a plane now a days...

And something around 17,000 cars crashed yesterday... aren't you afraid to ride in them, too?


oops...its much more scary though in a plane crash because your totally missing, rather than a car crashed in the streets
atul2242
ocalhoun wrote:
mrcool wrote:


...and too scary to ride a plane now a days...

And something around 17,000 cars crashed yesterday... aren't you afraid to ride in them, too?


Sometimes ... when I think about it...
It's like getting into a human sized tin can and jumping of the NIagra Falls.....
deanhills
More info about the survivor who was a young girl of 13 years old.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6617790.ece

I had to search a bit to get to the article. The Yemenia air crash is not getting as much coverage as the air crashes before. This one is a bad one and they are talking about having a black list of Airlines. Whether they have one or not, I will definitely stay clear of this airline, for sure.
Nick2008
Another tragedy, a lot of recent major airline accidents. Though I still consider air a safe way of travel, it's starting to get to the point where there is too many incidents. Finding a 14-year old girl alive was a miracle, considering I heard she didn't know how to swim.
Vladalf
As I understand that Airbus A310 was bought from the French a long time ago when it was taken out of service. I'm quite surprised it didn't crash even sooner.
~Vlad
deanhills
Vladalf wrote:
As I understand that Airbus A310 was bought from the French a long time ago when it was taken out of service. I'm quite surprised it didn't crash even sooner.
~Vlad
Good point. I'm also wondering about all the other planes they have and in what shape those are. Part of the problem was that they were using pirated parts when they were maintaining the airplanes.
harismushtaq
The airbus was comming from France. I wonder why french authorities allowed a plane to operate in thier country when they new it is not safe for travelling. 2009 is happening to be the deadliest year for air accidents. so far, more than 400 people have died.
deanhills
harismushtaq wrote:
The airbus was comming from France. I wonder why french authorities allowed a plane to operate in thier country when they new it is not safe for travelling. 2009 is happening to be the deadliest year for air accidents. so far, more than 400 people have died.
Good point! Wonder whether a legal case can be made out of this point? Smile
LimpFish
harismushtaq wrote:
The airbus was comming from France. I wonder why french authorities allowed a plane to operate in thier country when they new it is not safe for travelling. 2009 is happening to be the deadliest year for air accidents. so far, more than 400 people have died.


Most likely the problem is not the airplane itself but the way the maintenance and security checks on it were performed. Many non-western countries do not have the proper air-transport security legislations... and therefore they use pirated parts, have too long intervals inbetween checkups, not properly qualified technicians, etc etc.
Nick2008
LimpFish wrote:

Most likely the problem is not the airplane itself but the way the maintenance and security checks on it were performed. Many non-western countries do not have the proper air-transport security legislations... and therefore they use pirated parts, have too long intervals inbetween checkups, not properly qualified technicians, etc etc.


That's true, and it's not considered a problem until a tragedy happens. It would be a shame for the Yemen airline to continue using pirated parts and not making aircraft inspections more often even after this accident.
deanhills
LimpFish wrote:
harismushtaq wrote:
The airbus was comming from France. I wonder why french authorities allowed a plane to operate in thier country when they new it is not safe for travelling. 2009 is happening to be the deadliest year for air accidents. so far, more than 400 people have died.


Most likely the problem is not the airplane itself but the way the maintenance and security checks on it were performed. Many non-western countries do not have the proper air-transport security legislations... and therefore they use pirated parts, have too long intervals inbetween checkups, not properly qualified technicians, etc etc.
More than that, there are so many counterfeit brand names sold in the Middle East. One has to be a virtual expert to see the difference. It seems to be an ideal dumping ground for it. I don't think there is anything wrong with the security legislation at Yemeni airports, but more the implementation and supervision of it. Preventive maintenance is notoriously not given a high priority. If it looks as though the plane is running OK with the naked eye, then maybe that is enough for the maintenance managers and supervisors.
harismushtaq
It is famous that every crash makes air travel safer as the leasson learned helps improve safety for future. The recent accidents however, do not seem to contribute much. Airfrance accident seems to remain a mystery for ever as there is little chance left to find the black boxes and there is no strong ground to make conclusions otherwise. Investigation of this Yemeni airline accident is also very slow and there is no discovery of the cause so far.
deanhills
harismushtaq wrote:
It is famous that every crash makes air travel safer as the leasson learned helps improve safety for future. The recent accidents however, do not seem to contribute much. Airfrance accident seems to remain a mystery for ever as there is little chance left to find the black boxes and there is no strong ground to make conclusions otherwise. Investigation of this Yemeni airline accident is also very slow and there is no discovery of the cause so far.
This one seems to be a very clear case of maintenance issues. Either maintenance protocols were neglected and/or the airline did not use the prescribed parts for maintaining their planes. I can imagine however that their country will come really hard on them as the Yemeni Government will most certainly go on an enormous witch hunt. So at least this would get the airlines to be very careful while some of the Yemenian Airline staff no doubt must be shivering in their boots and waiting in anticipation for heavy action from the Government. I won't be suprised if some have already been jailed, as the liability for loss of life in Yemen is very high, and if they have any doubt or suspicion about the guilt of someone in a situation where there has been loss of life, they first jail and then ask questions afterwards.
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