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Neilos
Do you believe in ghosts? If so what do you think they are? How, scientifically, would you explain them?

Neilos
Bikerman
a) No I don't
b) Therefore I would not try to scientifically explain them.
I would try to explain the perceived phenomena on a case by case basis using the known laws of physics.
Neilos
But as scientists we have to accept that there is a phenomenon of 'ghosts' be it real spirits or just a figment of someones imagination.

If you don't believe in ghosts then how would you scientifically explain that people say that they have seen them? Mass paranoia? The same with aliens, why do people believe in them, is it brainwashing?

Neilos
Bikerman
Neilos wrote:
But as scientists we have to accept that there is a phenomenon of 'ghosts' be it real spirits or just a figment of someones imagination.
If it is a figment of imagination then there is little use trying to explain it scientifically. Until we know a lot more about consciousness and neurology then any attempted explanation will be weak to the point of useless.
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If you don't believe in ghosts then how would you scientifically explain that people say that they have seen them? Mass paranoia? The same with aliens, why do people believe in them, is it brainwashing?
Neilos
No, it is a combination of many factors, including genetic predisposition to see 'patterns' where there are none and establish 'narratives' to explain perceptions, genuine misidentification of normal physical phenomena, mental illness, wishful thinking/delusion and so on...
Neilos
Nice lol.

Anyone care to explain perhaps why they might exist?

I heard a snippit somewhere that it is possible to experience out of body experiences due to the nature of the brain. Potentially if the brain functioned as a quantum computer we would still be able to function brain activity out side of the body, even potentially if the body were dead.

I have no idea about the science behind this, I know very little about quantum computers but it would be nice to know if anyone else can apply the principles!

If we were to postulate that infact they do exist, what science might you use to prove them?

Neilos
Bikerman
Neilos wrote:
Nice lol.

Anyone care to explain perhaps why they might exist?

I heard a snippit somewhere that it is possible to experience out of body experiences due to the nature of the brain. Potentially if the brain functioned as a quantum computer we would still be able to function brain activity out side of the body, even potentially if the body were dead.
What nonsense is this? Sounds like the loony fringe of the web to me. You still need matter to make your quantum computer. In fact Roger Penrose has hypothesised that the brain actually IS a quantum computer to some extent, making use of quantum effects within microtubules in the brain. It is a contentious model, however, and many/most scientists are sceptical.
Neilos
OK, so Bikerman doesn't believe in ghosts. Maybe someone does? Or maybe someone is open to the possibility that the world is more complex than the text book says?!

Neilos
draok
Neilos wrote:
OK, so Bikerman doesn't believe in ghosts. Maybe someone does? Or maybe someone is open to the possibility that the world is more complex than the text book says?!

Neilos


i does believe in ghost. i ever been getting scared experience with it. i saw with my own eyes like shadow push away old chair in front of my eyes, it's moving around my body and it's real. what do you think about that ?
_AVG_
I don't think we should bring personal beliefs and faith into this. This is the science forum.

And ghosts, paranormal activities, illogical phenomena, etc. come under pseudo-science i.e. even if one was to give a scientific explanation for it, there wouldn't be any possible way to prove it or test it.

It is metaphysics we are dealing with here, which is highly illogical and speculative.
Bikerman
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