FRIHOSTFORUMSSEARCHFAQTOSBLOGSDIRECTORY
You are invited to Log in or Register a Frihost Account!

Death confers a genetic advantage?

 


ocalhoun
I'm thinking that all life that we know of may be genetically programmed to die. Sort of a genetically imprinted expiration date.
And this is not just a result of entropy's steady assault on the ordered functions of the body; the 'shelf life' is 'intentional', worked into genetics through evolution.

Why would it be an evolutionary advantage to die? It makes no sense on the scale of the individual, but on the scale of populations, of species, it does make sense. If the old don't grow weaker and die, their greater experience and/or continued growth gives them an advantage over the up-and-coming younger crowd. Great for those individuals, but bad for the population, because that means they have much less genetic flexibility their ability to evolve quickly and change to suit changes in their environment is reduced, possibly to near zero in an extreme case.

So, we then get evolution on a macro scale. Natural selection begins promoting or eliminating whole populations, based on their ability to evolve to suit new conditions.

Obviously, however, organisms that die too quickly will not get a good chance of passing on genes, and will also be selected against. So, we have two forces pressing pre-programmed life expectancy in opposite directions. The interest of a population's flexibility presses the age down, while the interest of an individual's ability to pass on genes presses upwards on it. Eventually, a balance is reached, setting the pre-programmed death age for that particular species or population.

Am I right?
Xanatos
I think that this depends most on how much a long living organism breeds. If you breed a lot genes will still be passed on and diversified, and if the older ones can't adapt they will die out and the newer will survive. I think our short (actually relatively long) lifespans are more resultant of the chemistry of our bodies and regular wear and tear than having any evolutionary advantage explicitly.
deanhills
ocalhoun wrote:
I'm thinking that all life that we know of may be genetically programmed to die. Sort of a genetically imprinted expiration date.
And this is not just a result of entropy's steady assault on the ordered functions of the body; the 'shelf life' is 'intentional', worked into genetics through evolution.

Why would it be an evolutionary advantage to die? It makes no sense on the scale of the individual, but on the scale of populations, of species, it does make sense. If the old don't grow weaker and die, their greater experience and/or continued growth gives them an advantage over the up-and-coming younger crowd. Great for those individuals, but bad for the population, because that means they have much less genetic flexibility their ability to evolve quickly and change to suit changes in their environment is reduced, possibly to near zero in an extreme case.

So, we then get evolution on a macro scale. Natural selection begins promoting or eliminating whole populations, based on their ability to evolve to suit new conditions.

Obviously, however, organisms that die too quickly will not get a good chance of passing on genes, and will also be selected against. So, we have two forces pressing pre-programmed life expectancy in opposite directions. The interest of a population's flexibility presses the age down, while the interest of an individual's ability to pass on genes presses upwards on it. Eventually, a balance is reached, setting the pre-programmed death age for that particular species or population.

Am I right?
I've been thinking about that too. Do you think our intelligence will come to an end too, it is programmed to expire at some or other time. Our species genetically is also programmed to expire as a species? It could be a simple matter of an ice age and the human species completely expiring?
yagnyavalkya
I think there is evolutionary significance in this question has anyone heard of Altruism?
Related topics

Can you be psychic?
What is Philosophy to you?
Psychology of Human Nature... are these really "truths?
Money, and who should have it.
how many of the four cardinal virtues do you practice?

science vs. religion
10 Greatest inventions...
Harry Potter 6 - The Half-Blood Prince *(ENDING REVEALED)*
Putting a price on human life?
How do you want to die?

Justification for War in Iraq
Who All Believes In Evolution?
China Against Text Messaging
Is the death penalty wrong?
which group do u guys think is the group of death?
Reply to topic    Frihost Forum Index -> Science -> Life

FRIHOST HOME | FAQ | TOS | ABOUT US | CONTACT US | SITE MAP
© 2005-2007 Frihost, forums powered by phpBB.