What do you think is the best place to live in Europe in terms of possibilities to find a job, social life, good weather, traffic congestions.. etc.
Best place to live in Europe?
| programitv wrote: |
| What do you think is the best place to live in Europe in terms of possibilities to find a job, social life, good weather, traffic congestions.. etc. |
France? Switzerland? I have not been to any of these places, but have heard a lot about them.
London is a great place to live. Most of the people in the city's surrounding don´t have much money and some of London's high-society lives in beautiful places. There are lots of bars, pubs and nightclubs where you can go to (even during the weeks and whenever you like). Because of the demographic diversity the crowds mix up on the streets and you get to see everything life has to offer. You have the opportunity to find a well paid job and make a fortune as well as very high rent and poor people trying to survive.
I used to live there and I still love London
I used to live there and I still love London
by the way...
I´m in Moscow, Russia at the moment. Great place, but very expensive to live
I´m in Moscow, Russia at the moment. Great place, but very expensive to live
| programitv wrote: |
| What do you think is the best place to live in Europe in terms of possibilities to find a job, social life, good weather, traffic congestions.. etc. |
I've been in Spain - Barcelona (a month), a week in Madrid (Spain), a month in Rome (Italy), a week in Paris, a week in Brno (Czech Republic), two weeks in Prague (Czech Republic), a week in Berlin (Germany), two months in Istanbul (Turkey), couple of days in Budapest (Hungary), a year in London (UK), 7 years in Bucharest (Romania), 8 years in Iasi (Romania), the rest of my 31 years in Vaslui (Romania, close to former URSS border).
I don't count couple of days in Bulgaria and Austria.
Best place to live... do you know the latin "Ubi bene ibi patria"? Where you feel good there is your country. Nobody could tell you where is the best place for you.
paytime says London. I spent one whole year in London. As immigrant, without a job, London don't seems too nice.
On the other hand, I had a PERFECT holiday in Paris and I feel Paris as a second home.
But that two weeks in Prague I cannot compare to anything! Prague was the capital of Europe - and you can see this everywhere in Prague...
My order of "best place to live" (I suppose that I will have a steady job and a decent rented home):
1. Paris
2. Prague
3. Rome
4. London
5. Barcelona
6. Vaslui (my hometown)
I don't like the place where I live now (Bucharest) but I have other elements that make it more desirable than Paris, for example: the mother tongue spoken here, a good job, NICE colleagues.
And when you spend 9 hours a day at work, a good job with good people count a lot!
You people are all talking about the cities. The topic was about the complete country. The citylife and other parts of the country can be complete different.
I personally live in Belgium. I wouldn't like living in Brussels because there is a lot of crime there, etc. like in every city. However, the place I live now about half an hour from Brussels is a pretty big village with about 10.000 inhabitants, and still very peaceful and a great place to live.
I personally live in Belgium. I wouldn't like living in Brussels because there is a lot of crime there, etc. like in every city. However, the place I live now about half an hour from Brussels is a pretty big village with about 10.000 inhabitants, and still very peaceful and a great place to live.
I should say somewhere in Austria or Switzerland. I like the mountains, the nature, the friendly people... But I think I would also like to live somewhere in Scandinavia. I heard that life is expensive over there, but I heard that people earn a lot more money then somewhere else in Europe...
I would like to live somewhere in southern or western Europe. These places are most attractive to me. In southern Europe I'd like to live in Italy. Because there are Alps and Mediterranean Sea. In western Europe I'd like to live on England or France, somewhere near to La Manche.
NB: Hopefully everyone understand me, because my English isn't good (that's my opinion
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NB: Hopefully everyone understand me, because my English isn't good (that's my opinion
).Definitely Spain! I don't know much about weather or economy of it but comparing Spain with countries like England, Italy or France etc.. I would choose Spain for people are friendly, things are generally cheap and scenery is gorgeous.
I would say Spain or France - great countries, great people, great weather, great food (especially the last point, for Spain.. mmm)
(especially the last point, for Spain.. mmm)I think that the original questions have requirements that have opposite answers because usually the places with a lot of activity will usually have more people so more traffic congestions for instance.
So you need to find the best compromise for you.
I have been living and working in different countries in Europe and for the work and for good public transport Scandinavia is good. But of course weather won't be so warm.
In southern country you will have warmer weather (sometimes far too much), more activities but probably more stress, people more nervous.
So depends on what are you priorities.
So you need to find the best compromise for you.
I have been living and working in different countries in Europe and for the work and for good public transport Scandinavia is good. But of course weather won't be so warm.
In southern country you will have warmer weather (sometimes far too much), more activities but probably more stress, people more nervous.
So depends on what are you priorities.
| fx-trading-education wrote: |
| I think that the original questions have requirements that have opposite answers because usually the places with a lot of activity will usually have more people so more traffic congestions for instance.
So you need to find the best compromise for you. I have been living and working in different countries in Europe and for the work and for good public transport Scandinavia is good. But of course weather won't be so warm. In southern country you will have warmer weather (sometimes far too much), more activities but probably more stress, people more nervous. So depends on what are you priorities. |
Spain is very good
I prefer to live Sweden, Estonia(there I live), Swizerland, Great Britain, Norway, Germany, Spain
Best place to live in Europe is Scottish Highlands in the UK. Although Scotland in general is also an excellent place to live. People here are great. Maybe prices are not so great, but you've got this fresh Atlantic air, this cleanest water, and the climate is close to the mild English one. Whenever you live in Scotland, you may visit mountains and lakes every weekend.
The worst place to live I've ever seen is Côte d'Azur on the French coast of Mediterranean sea. People are running into severe car pollution problems there. Besides, boats of the rich crowd spoil sea water with exhausts. So, swimming in the sea is discouraged.
The worst place to live I've ever seen is Côte d'Azur on the French coast of Mediterranean sea. People are running into severe car pollution problems there. Besides, boats of the rich crowd spoil sea water with exhausts. So, swimming in the sea is discouraged.
Scandinavia, ofcourse. And yes, it is expensive, but yes, average pay here is I think higher than in most places. Plus everything is clean and well looked after, not a lot of crime, etc.
| sigT wrote: |
| Best place to live in Europe is Scottish Highlands in the UK. Although Scotland in general is also an excellent place to live. People here are great. Maybe prices are not so great, but you've got this fresh Atlantic air, this cleanest water, and the climate is close to the mild English one. Whenever you live in Scotland, you may visit mountains and lakes every weekend.
The worst place to live I've ever seen is Côte d'Azur on the French coast of Mediterranean sea. People are running into severe car pollution problems there. Besides, boats of the rich crowd spoil sea water with exhausts. So, swimming in the sea is discouraged. |
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It is a few degrees colder than England, and it may be very wet in the mountains. However, in my opinion the best place to live does not have to have beaucoup de soleil, as there are many other nice things about Highlands.
Hey, I must add a city to my top posted above: Hamburg.
I've spent 5 days there and I loved every minute.
I will add it in top 5 of my favourite cities.
I've spent 5 days there and I loved every minute.
I will add it in top 5 of my favourite cities.
Definitively Switzerland
| fatosshala wrote: |
| Definitively Switzerland |
Just any place in Switzerland, or some particular part? I visited Montreux some time ago. What a marvelous time it was! A bit expensive though.
P.S. From the fact that you wrote "definitively" rather than "definitely", I guess you are from the French-speaking part of Switzerland. Is this so?
Cheers
Paris is beautiful, and has lots of jobs. Why not?
There is a lot of great places in every country but I believe that Sweden, Switzerland and, for example, Germany, are the best places to live.
check republic is the best
A good balance between mountains and swimmable sees make it all for me ! Not too far from the mountains, not too far from the sea. SW of France, NW or NE of Italy, Slovenia, Andalusia,...
I have also found this survey report by an Indian Journalist:
1. Zurich, Switzerland
The most cherished destination on earth is Zurich with a population of 376,815. The place is also known as the commercial, financial and cultural hub of the country. Located at the northwestern part of Lake Zurich, close to the River Limmat, this city is considered as the paradise of earth. The splendid Zurich boasts of over 2,000 bars and restaurants along with a magnificent view of the Alps and Lake Zurich. The beautiful scenic views and excellent living standard of Zurich entitle the place with a nickname of "City of Best Quality Life."
2. Vienna, Austria
The hub of Austria's political, cultural and economic activities, the capital city offers excellent education and infrastructure. Added in the UNESCO World Heritage List, Vienna is the largest city of Austria. The exemplary lifestyle of Vienna bags it the second position among the top ten places to live in Europe.
3. Geneva, Switzerland
Popularly known as the city of 'Unfading Beauty', Geneva is located between the Lake Geneva and Mount Saleve. The stunning rose gardens of this city are famous all over the globe. Due to the heavy presence of U.N. agencies and organizations, this small city is all set to go global with private banking facilities, hospitals and international schools. Geneva ranks third among the best living places of Europe.
4. Dusseldorf, Germany
Located on the bank of River Rhine, Dusseldorf is among one of the gracious cities of Germany. The city has built up its infrastructure and international transport connections and has an abundance of consumer goods and is considered the fashion and shopping capital of Germany. This top notch city has a thriving economy with some of Germany's largest companies and important centre for banking. Dusseldorf also serves as the headquarters for many of the Ruhr's businesses. It is also among one of the richest cities in Germany and is famed for being the hometown of the supermodel, Claudia Shiffer.
5. Munich, Germany
With a population of 1.3 million, Munich is the fun city of Germany. The laid back attitude and easy going life of Munich can spoil anyone. Well known for its annual beer festival, the city also enjoys a flourishing economy, driven by the information technology, biotechnology and publishing sectors.
6. Frankfurt, Germany
Frankfurt is one of the most modern towns of Germany is well known for it skyscrapers, international airport and as the financial capital of Europe. This financial hub has some excellent hospital, shops, and booming economy. One of the wealthiest cities in the European Union, it is among one of the superb and exotic holiday destinations.
7. Bern, Switzerland
Bern is among the most charming towns of Switzerland. Located on the banks of River Aare, the city promises a lot of attraction and surprises to the visitors. This German-speaking part of Switzerland is one among the safest cities. Surrounded by densely wooded areas and mountains, Bern is not a crowded city. The city lacks in nightlife but it does have excellent medical facilities.
8. Copenhagen, Denmark
Copenhagen is among the largest city in Denmark with a population of over 1 million. It is also known as the cultural center for the country featuring art, music, theater and design. Though the standard of living is pricey here but the party never stops for those who are looking for a swinging time. Education and medical facilities are excellent in the city but the congestion drags it down to its overall ranking.
9. Amsterdam, Netherlands
May be many of us would like to live in Amsterdam because of the red light districts and liberal policy on drug use. On the other side, Amsterdam is culturally rich and music is an essential thing that reflects in its daily life style of Amsterdam people. Fun loving and merry-making is the USP of people here. The city has some best canals, parks and museums, and the best selection of international schools in Europe. However the ranking of the city is dragged down due to lack of city center housing and air pollution.
10. Brussels, Belgium
Brussels is among the most beautiful Belgium cities. It has a wonderful cultural life, especially with its numerous theaters and cinemas. This administrative center of European Union is well connected with rest of the Europe with excellent transportation system. Brussels is an accessible, bustling, business and political hub that also manages to retain a strong sense of history and culture. The education system of the city is highly appreciated. However, the heavy traffic and air pollution is the major drawback of the city.
1. Zurich, Switzerland
The most cherished destination on earth is Zurich with a population of 376,815. The place is also known as the commercial, financial and cultural hub of the country. Located at the northwestern part of Lake Zurich, close to the River Limmat, this city is considered as the paradise of earth. The splendid Zurich boasts of over 2,000 bars and restaurants along with a magnificent view of the Alps and Lake Zurich. The beautiful scenic views and excellent living standard of Zurich entitle the place with a nickname of "City of Best Quality Life."
2. Vienna, Austria
The hub of Austria's political, cultural and economic activities, the capital city offers excellent education and infrastructure. Added in the UNESCO World Heritage List, Vienna is the largest city of Austria. The exemplary lifestyle of Vienna bags it the second position among the top ten places to live in Europe.
3. Geneva, Switzerland
Popularly known as the city of 'Unfading Beauty', Geneva is located between the Lake Geneva and Mount Saleve. The stunning rose gardens of this city are famous all over the globe. Due to the heavy presence of U.N. agencies and organizations, this small city is all set to go global with private banking facilities, hospitals and international schools. Geneva ranks third among the best living places of Europe.
4. Dusseldorf, Germany
Located on the bank of River Rhine, Dusseldorf is among one of the gracious cities of Germany. The city has built up its infrastructure and international transport connections and has an abundance of consumer goods and is considered the fashion and shopping capital of Germany. This top notch city has a thriving economy with some of Germany's largest companies and important centre for banking. Dusseldorf also serves as the headquarters for many of the Ruhr's businesses. It is also among one of the richest cities in Germany and is famed for being the hometown of the supermodel, Claudia Shiffer.
5. Munich, Germany
With a population of 1.3 million, Munich is the fun city of Germany. The laid back attitude and easy going life of Munich can spoil anyone. Well known for its annual beer festival, the city also enjoys a flourishing economy, driven by the information technology, biotechnology and publishing sectors.
6. Frankfurt, Germany
Frankfurt is one of the most modern towns of Germany is well known for it skyscrapers, international airport and as the financial capital of Europe. This financial hub has some excellent hospital, shops, and booming economy. One of the wealthiest cities in the European Union, it is among one of the superb and exotic holiday destinations.
7. Bern, Switzerland
Bern is among the most charming towns of Switzerland. Located on the banks of River Aare, the city promises a lot of attraction and surprises to the visitors. This German-speaking part of Switzerland is one among the safest cities. Surrounded by densely wooded areas and mountains, Bern is not a crowded city. The city lacks in nightlife but it does have excellent medical facilities.
8. Copenhagen, Denmark
Copenhagen is among the largest city in Denmark with a population of over 1 million. It is also known as the cultural center for the country featuring art, music, theater and design. Though the standard of living is pricey here but the party never stops for those who are looking for a swinging time. Education and medical facilities are excellent in the city but the congestion drags it down to its overall ranking.
9. Amsterdam, Netherlands
May be many of us would like to live in Amsterdam because of the red light districts and liberal policy on drug use. On the other side, Amsterdam is culturally rich and music is an essential thing that reflects in its daily life style of Amsterdam people. Fun loving and merry-making is the USP of people here. The city has some best canals, parks and museums, and the best selection of international schools in Europe. However the ranking of the city is dragged down due to lack of city center housing and air pollution.
10. Brussels, Belgium
Brussels is among the most beautiful Belgium cities. It has a wonderful cultural life, especially with its numerous theaters and cinemas. This administrative center of European Union is well connected with rest of the Europe with excellent transportation system. Brussels is an accessible, bustling, business and political hub that also manages to retain a strong sense of history and culture. The education system of the city is highly appreciated. However, the heavy traffic and air pollution is the major drawback of the city.
Here in Britain. It's so easy to get in, it's unbelievable!
| lagoon wrote: |
| Here in Britain. It's so easy to get in, it's unbelievable! |
No one has mentioned Ireland, either the republic or the north. Anyone? A great-great grandson of a potato famine refugee would love to know.
| ronbonzo wrote: |
| No one has mentioned Ireland, either the republic or the north. Anyone? A great-great grandson of a potato famine refugee would love to know. |
Where was your ancestor from? I visited the South (Cork and Kerry counties). Long long time ago Skibbereen in West Cork had severe famines and, consequently, migration. Nowadays it's more prosperous than it used to be.
Dingle peninsula in Kerry is also lovely. From my experience, these places are nice to live, although depending on what would be your business there. There is A LOT of farming and some hi-tech, especially bio, industry. There has recently been some decline in the latter.
I liked Ireland so much the 3 times I went there for leisure. Only the weather makes me reluctant to establish myself there. So nice beaches close to the mountains, friendly people, secluded spots, thrilled cemeteries, abandonned photogenic churches and abbeys in the middle of nowhere, in fields surrounded by cows and no tourists, warm athmosphere in pubs where all people of all ages are sitting side by side listening to the music bands. Really a good experience. But is the weather so freaked even in the summer. I was on the beach in Connemara last July, it was sunny but cold (16°C) and the beach was so nice, water clear, sand dunes. I could not avoid making a dive in this unspoilt ocean. I could not stand the 13-14°C water more than 3 minutes and the irish people on the beach were all wearing pullovers and jackets.
Definitely a recommended country for me!
Definitely a recommended country for me!
| joostvane wrote: |
| You people are all talking about the cities. The topic was about the complete country. The citylife and other parts of the country can be complete different.
I personally live in Belgium. I wouldn't like living in Brussels because there is a lot of crime there, etc. like in every city. However, the place I live now about half an hour from Brussels is a pretty big village with about 10.000 inhabitants, and still very peaceful and a great place to live. |
I live in Bruges, a small city of around 120.000 inhabitants, but it doesn't has as much crime as other bigger (and even smaller) cities. It's ok to live here, social security is very good etc, only the weather is a real drawback since it can be so damn dull!
Somewhere in southern france would be nice I guess.
Britain is definitely the place to be. I lived in London for about 4 months....I fell in love with it. The city is full of exciting clubs, pubs, and music venues, and the people are friendly fun to be around. I was with a bunch of 20-somethings most of the time, but I can tell you that the city is quite diverse. It an international cross-roads. It's easy to get around thanks to the Underground and the buses, and if you want to plan a weekend holiday to another country, 5 airports are located throughout the city making it easy to get away. The Eurostar is there as well if you want to take a trip to Paris (amazing city that I think equals London in excitement).
It's a bit expensive sometimes, but if you're looking for something fun, London is where you want to go.
It's a bit expensive sometimes, but if you're looking for something fun, London is where you want to go.
| ronbonzo wrote: |
| No one has mentioned Ireland, either the republic or the north. Anyone? A great-great grandson of a potato famine refugee would love to know. |
Ireland is a great place to live, but is suffering quite a bit from the Recession. The economy in Ireland was extremely strong for the last 10 years, and hence it was probably the worst hit by the recession. There are some positives - prices for property/rent, food etc have come down hugely from the dizzy heights of a few years ago. Jobs are hard to get in some sectors such as construction, but Ireland has a booming IT sector which has continued to flourish throughout the recession. All of the big IT companies - Google, Microsoft, E-bay, Intel, etc have huge European bases in Ireland because of the low taxation regime, and the high quality of graduates.
Ireland is very cosmpopolitan, probably the highest proportion of immigrants from every corner of the world, but particularly Eastern Europe. This makes for a very vibrant society. Don't expect to find too many potato farmers these days - more likely web-farms, or wind-farms!
The weather can be quite unreliable, but you never get extremes of heat or cold - just be prepared for lots of rain.
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