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Obama Embraces Tax Cheats





jwellsy
Barry Hussein has knowingly appointed tax cheaters to his cabinet. What's the count up to today, 5? One even had a tax lein on her DC home. He is doing as poor of a vetting job on his appointments as he recieved during the campaign.

Of course when it's leaked by the evil conservative controlled media then he throws them under the bus as usual.

I have a new found respect for Daschle for having a thread of morality and decency, a commodity in short supply in the neo-socialist party.

Is this the change the annointed one promised?

I guess the chickens are starting to come home to roost.
Bikerman
The reporting here was somewhat different. The news carried Obama saying 'it was my screw-up'. I found that to be rather a refreshing admission from a politician. I certainly don't think Obama can be blamed for the tax affairs of his choices for office, though he should perhaps have looked a little more closely at them beforehand.
handfleisch
Bikerman wrote:
The reporting here was somewhat different. The news carried Obama saying 'it was my screw-up'. I found that to be rather a refreshing admission from a politician.


Agreed. "It was my screw up". What a nice change from the fumbling non-answer we got from Bush in 2004 when he was asked about about his mistakes. (Some wag made a list of 100 mistakes he could have picked from, http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/05/b64326.html)
deanhills
Bikerman wrote:
The reporting here was somewhat different. The news carried Obama saying 'it was my screw-up'. I found that to be rather a refreshing admission from a politician. I certainly don't think Obama can be blamed for the tax affairs of his choices for office, though he should perhaps have looked a little more closely at them beforehand.


I found it refreshing too, but not less worrisome for three people to have slipped through Obama's screening process. If those people can slip through Obama's checking system, quite a number of other people can pull wool over his eyes. That part worries me. Hopefully he is reinforcing his checking systems.

Sad part is of course, do we really want squeeky clean people in the Government. For example, if you want to sort out hackers, you need hackers to catch them. If you want to sort out BIG business who are playing games with tax evasion, don't we need people who have a little experience in that? Perhaps the pendulum is swinging too much to the too clean side? We have just seen what has happened with a too clean guy (Obama) in being pulled wool over his eyes. Maybe they trust more than what they should?
MYP415
Obama may have said he screwed up about this, but what about Geithner? Geithner didn't pay some of his taxes until right before his name came up for the nomination, showing a huge character flaw. And don't even get me started on what he did with the bailout money he was in charge of.
deanhills
MYP415 wrote:
Obama may have said he screwed up about this, but what about Geithner? Geithner didn't pay some of his taxes until right before his name came up for the nomination, showing a huge character flaw. And don't even get me started on what he did with the bailout money he was in charge of.


I would rather describe Geithner shrewd in the management of his money. But totally dumb for thinking he could get away with it when standing for public office. Now that was really very unwise of him. As well as insulting to the President.
MYP415
deanhills wrote:
MYP415 wrote:
Obama may have said he screwed up about this, but what about Geithner? Geithner didn't pay some of his taxes until right before his name came up for the nomination, showing a huge character flaw. And don't even get me started on what he did with the bailout money he was in charge of.


I would rather describe Geithner shrewd in the management of his money. But totally dumb for thinking he could get away with it when standing for public office. Now that was really very unwise of him. As well as insulting to the President.

After showing such a flaw, he should have never been given the position.
jmi256
jwellsy wrote:
Barry Hussein has knowingly appointed tax cheaters to his cabinet. What's the count up to today, 5? One even had a tax lein on her DC home. He is doing as poor of a vetting job on his appointments as he recieved during the campaign.

Of course when it's leaked by the evil conservative controlled media then he throws them under the bus as usual.

I have a new found respect for Daschle for having a thread of morality and decency, a commodity in short supply in the neo-socialist party.

Is this the change the annointed one promised?

I guess the chickens are starting to come home to roost.



I'm not really surprised that he's surrounding himself with the types of people he has been choosing. It's been his associations with people like Rezko, Ayers, etc. that has gotten him this far, so why would he change what has worked for him?

The real problem I have is the hypocrisy of the Democrats in power. They advocate raising our taxes and want to lecture Americans that it's their "patriotic duty" to pay more in taxes, yet when it comes time for these Democrats to pay their taxes they lie, cheat, etc. in order to not pay their fair share. And then they want to claim it's an "omission" and/or "error."

Now I can understand Joe Q. Public making a minor mistake on some tax forms, but I can't understand the very people who are writing and passing the tax bills making "mistakes" that total in the tens and hundreds of thousands. A lot of it is much more than just a mistake on a form, however, and is outright fraud.

But it's not just those who Obama picks as nominees. For example, Charlie Rangel (D-NY) is the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, yet he tried to get away with cheating on his taxes too. Here's a story about it below. This guy is a real piece of work by the way. After getting caught with cheating on HIS taxes, he tried to blame it on the managers that HE hired. And then he blamed it on language. And on top of it all it was discovered that he has several rent-stabilized apartments intended for low-income residents in need and refuses to give them up. He's scum,

Quote:

Editorial: Rangel's Tax Problems
An honest mistake. Really.

The fellow who writes tax law for the entire country can't even get his personal tax returns right.

That's why Speaker Nancy E. Pelosi (D., Calif.) should remove Rep. Charles Rangel (D., N.Y.) as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. The post requires Rangel to be above reproach, and he has not met that high standard.

Rangel admitted that he owes the IRS as much as $5,000 for failing to report income from a beachfront villa he owns in the Dominican Republic. He will end up owing New York state and New York City another $5,000 or so.

This is the guy who plays a powerful role in deciding the winners and losers in every new tax law approved by Congress. He ought to at least inspire confidence among taxpayers that he's living up to regulations that he imposes on others.

Rangel said his mistake was unintentional. He said he tried to get the correct financial information from the resort's managers, who collect the rent. But he was stymied by a language barrier - they speak Spanish.

Rangel's excuse is muy imperfecto. Half of his congressional district speaks Spanish, and his Web site can be translated into Spanish with two mouse clicks. Surely the chairman could have found someone who understands the U.S. tax code and Spanish to unravel his financial liabilities before a reporter did.

Even if it were an innocent mistake, Rangel's gaffes have been piling up. He also faces ethics probes for allegedly misusing rent-controlled apartments in New York and writing letters on congressional stationery seeking donations for an education center that is named after him.

Rangel won't step down as chairman, and wants his detractors to wait for the outcome of the ethics probe. Pelosi said she won't remove Rangel. She should reconsider.

Voters in Rangel's district can decide in November whether they still want him as their congressman. But somebody who owes back taxes shouldn't be chairman of the House committee in charge of tax laws.

Source = http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080915_Editorial__Rangel_s_Tax_Problems.html
Voodoocat
Dead on target jmi, it seems that the big change that was ushered in is business as usual! If Obama is already struggling to fill his cabinet positions how can we expect him actually be able to run the country?

This also sheds doubt on his economic stimulus package: Obama is steamrolling his stimulus plan claiming that we do not have time to stop and think about how the money will be spent. If Obama had slowed down and thoroughly vetted his cabinet appointees he would not have had to publically apologize for his blatant mistakes. Now he wants us to race full steam ahead and spend almost a trillion dollars without question.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Bye the way- the pie chart is very misleading. Notice that it does not list mandatory spending. If it did, there would be a 1.4 trillion dollar slice for social security, medicare and medicaid. Yep, that's right: the government takes well over a trillion dollars a year from the taxpayers and spends it on social programs.
ocalhoun
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You mean that pie chart?
It is correct, but only lists discretionary spending. Because of the many bills that have passed which get entitlement spending, the government has very little spending money that it can decide what to do with. Since all defense spending comes out of this, and because we can't afford to reduce defense spending any more, it occupies a lot of that pie. There has been some talk of making defense an entitlement expense as well, to protect that funding. You can't expect the military to win two wars and remain technologically superior on a shoestring budget.

The proposed stimulus package is much more expensive than the military, and gives far less benefit in practical terms.
deanhills
Voodoocat wrote:
Bye the way- the pie chart is very misleading. Notice that it does not list mandatory spending. If it did, there would be a 1.4 trillion dollar slice for social security, medicare and medicaid. Yep, that's right: the government takes well over a trillion dollars a year from the taxpayers and spends it on social programs.


Wow, I'm learning here. Just imagine if they can fudge figures like these what the Banks must have been doing and now one just has to wonder how the situation really is with the Banks: most of all, what kind of support (for real vs what the US citizens will be told) they will be receiving from the Government, once the people of the US has signed the blank cheque??? AND, what quid per pro deals will be going on between Banks and politicians, I really feel we have a conflict of interest situation coming up fast!
peyote
Obam, is doing something, we know that, will it be good? WE' ll see...
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