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protine powder for muscle growth.. is it good for health?





internetjobs
i really dont know having protine powder is good or bad.. i heard that most of them are using it for muscle growth while going to GYM. can anyone provide details about this?
deanhills
internetjobs wrote:
i really dont know having protine powder is good or bad.. i heard that most of them are using it for muscle growth while going to GYM. can anyone provide details about this?


Protein powder is not bad. But it needs to be taken as a supplement to a good diet, not as a replacement of food. People usually use it for muscle repair and growth when they do heavy work-outs or when they recover from a major illness or muscle degeneration. You get some nice tasting ones and possibly you could consult with someone in your gym as to which ones are both yummy as well as high in protein, medium in carbs and low in sugar and fat. Make sure it tastes good as if it has really a bad taste, you may just be wasting your money. You really need to read the labels of the protein powders well, as they are not all equal to one another. You may think you are getting a good deal, whereas the protein content would be much higher in another brand for a fraction more.

Having said that, natural food is of course always the best, plenty of eggs, lean meat, chicken and fish.
youandmephotography
Well, if you're using Creatine Protein Powder, then it could possibly have some side effects. However, very little is known about the long-term effect of these powders. Really, you could be fine for the short-term, a few days, months, years, however long it may be.

But the risk you run by taking these powders is the unknown: whether it be a disease, increased risk to other things, or early bone breakdown (hypothetical examples), you don't know for sure what you're signing up for by taking these powders.

Of course, in my opinion, these are probably harmless to consume, but it's just that small chance of a future risk that keeps me away from using them.
fineshine06
Its not bad.. per se...
But the real thing is always better if you can get it.
I was vegetarian for a few years and I know the hardest thing for me was to get enough protein.
If anything try soy protein powder... its more natural so its better for you
Solon_Poledourus
Every 3 hours while you are awake, consume a 16 ounce drink of milk and egg whites blended together, along with 3 pieces of wheat bread with nothing on it. Eat alot of chicken and fish with vegetables, steamed is best. Be sure to eat 3 full meals each day(including the egg white drink every 3 hours). Combine this with regular exercise and it should help build plenty of mass.
Cutting out things like soda, coffee, and sugar snacks should also be considered. And regulate your sleeping pattern by going to bed each night at the same time, waking up at the same time. Exercise the same time each day too. This will train your body to consume/build/rest in a structured manner.
deanhills
Solon_Poledourus wrote:
Every 3 hours while you are awake, consume a 16 ounce drink of milk and egg whites blended together, along with 3 pieces of wheat bread with nothing on it. Eat alot of chicken and fish with vegetables, steamed is best. Be sure to eat 3 full meals each day(including the egg white drink every 3 hours). Combine this with regular exercise and it should help build plenty of mass.
Cutting out things like soda, coffee, and sugar snacks should also be considered. And regulate your sleeping pattern by going to bed each night at the same time, waking up at the same time. Exercise the same time each day too. This will train your body to consume/build/rest in a structured manner.
This sounds like a great programme to follow. Is the milk full fat or skim? Do you use any oils in preparation of your food? What liquids do you drink? Do you eat any fruit?
Solon_Poledourus
deanhills wrote:
This sounds like a great programme to follow. Is the milk full fat or skim? Do you use any oils in preparation of your food? What liquids do you drink? Do you eat any fruit?

I use vitamin D milk, full fat, because I have a very fast metabolism and am naturally thin, so it helps pack on mass. Sometimes I use peanut oil to prepare the food, or butter if its not too salty. I drink lots of water, natural juices like orange juice, apple juice, and such. I also eat alot of fruit, such as strawberries and oranges and the like. These can be blended into the drink for flavor as well as vitamins and necessary natural sugars.
I had to follow a regimen similar to this in school when I joined the martial arts team, in order to get into a specific weight division, and have been following it ever since(with a few alterations and not nearly as strict). When I was traveling abroad, I couldn't follow it as strictly as I wanted, and my weight dropped off severely. People thought I looked sick because my clothes were too big for me and I became a bit pale. [/quote]
deanhills
Solon_Poledourus wrote:
deanhills wrote:
This sounds like a great programme to follow. Is the milk full fat or skim? Do you use any oils in preparation of your food? What liquids do you drink? Do you eat any fruit?

I use vitamin D milk, full fat, because I have a very fast metabolism and am naturally thin, so it helps pack on mass. Sometimes I use peanut oil to prepare the food, or butter if its not too salty. I drink lots of water, natural juices like orange juice, apple juice, and such. I also eat alot of fruit, such as strawberries and oranges and the like. These can be blended into the drink for flavor as well as vitamins and necessary natural sugars.
I had to follow a regimen similar to this in school when I joined the martial arts team, in order to get into a specific weight division, and have been following it ever since(with a few alterations and not nearly as strict). When I was traveling abroad, I couldn't follow it as strictly as I wanted, and my weight dropped off severely. People thought I looked sick because my clothes were too big for me and I became a bit pale.

Thanks for the info. Sounds very healthy. You are lucky to have such a fast-burning metabolism. Taking care of it with a diet like this one has to be good as well. Exercise probably being key together with a positive mental attitude.
Skye001
I go to the gym often, and always take protein powder, if you want to put on MASS then there is powder that can do that, if you want to build muscle then look at protein powders which have the highest protein per scoop!! Creatine has some effect on the body, it makes people aggressive but it keeps water retention in your muscles to increase size and it also gives you a wickedly awesome boost!

Skye
deanhills
Skye001 wrote:
I go to the gym often, and always take protein powder, if you want to put on MASS then there is powder that can do that, if you want to build muscle then look at protein powders which have the highest protein per scoop!! Creatine has some effect on the body, it makes people aggressive but it keeps water retention in your muscles to increase size and it also gives you a wickedly awesome boost!

Skye
Are there any negative effects from using Creatine? I.e. along harmful to health lines.
BigGeek
OK here is the scoop on protein! Pardon the pun

In order to gain muscle mass the considered intake by most professionals is 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. Since that is a large amount of protein to consume on a daily basis you need to break it up in to 6 equal servings and consume each serving every 3 to 4 hours. There are a lot more guidelines to calorie intake for fats and carbs, but since this post is about protein I'll stick to that.

When it comes to milk proteins they are divided up into to two basic types. Whey and Casine. Casine is the fat souble protein and is slowly digested by the body. Whey is the water soluble protein and is digested much more quickly by the body. Thing is, almost all food source proteins, meat, chicken fish, eggs, are also slow digesting proteins. Basically what you want to do dietary speaking is consume slow digesting proteins throughout the day in terms of whole foods, and supplements containing casine protein. Then when your metabolism is spiked for the hour following your workout is when you want to consume the fast acting whey proteins so that your body can speed them to the damaged muscle fibers to facilitate repair.

Actually the same protocol applies to carbs as well, where you consume complex carbs throughout the day with your meals.....NO SUGAR, and save your sugar drinks for the period of the day immediately following your workouts. That way the sugars do not turn to fat stores during the inactive parts of the day, but after a workout when your body needs them to replenish the glycogen stores in the muscles that were burned off during the workout.

As far as any of the protein powders being bad for you, I've never seen any evidence that would suggest this. Almost all protein powders are derived from whole food, and are no more harmful that consuming milk or any other food source. Like someone pointed out earlier they are supplements and you should not be relying on them as your main portein sources.

If you want to read up on post workout nutrition, cutting edge articles about protein consumption, amounts and types of diets to adhere to I would suggest www.t-nation.com, great resource for diet, exercise, and all kinds of health advice for those interested in building muscle mass.

Also the only bad effects that I've read about creatine are the stomach upsets, I've never heard about it creating aggressivness in anyone, it does help with energy during the workouts and it does help your muscles retain water, it has also been shown to increase memory.

You do need to be careful though, because there are protein drinks out there that have some harmful additives in them, and those can cause all sorts of problems as well as sap your gains while you are lifting, one of them being "muscle milk" has some screwey additives in it. You can visit www.proteinfactory.com and get pure powders with no additives in them.

In defense of whole wholesome food, I will say that back in the 40's 50's and early 60's body builders had developed some awsome physiques, and they did it all with whole foods, because back then there was no such thing as protein powders. So are they necessary?......no, are the a help and are they convienent when your trying to build muscle?.........yes.
its-herstyle
No, no, no! Don't do it! My father took creatine powder, for muscle growth, after a car accident. Although he bought it at a health store, and only used it for a week, in result he ended up in the hospital because of his heart. He had terrible heart aches, and actually passed out behind the wheel a couple of times.. After he stoped using it the side effects disappeared quickly. This also happened to a friend of mine.. I wouldn't take it, just go to the gym, or eat healthier.
deanhills
its-herstyle wrote:
No, no, no! Don't do it! My father took creatine powder, for muscle growth, after a car accident. Although he bought it at a health store, and only used it for a week, in result he ended up in the hospital because of his heart. He had terrible heart aches, and actually passed out behind the wheel a couple of times.. After he stoped using it the side effects disappeared quickly. This also happened to a friend of mine.. I wouldn't take it, just go to the gym, or eat healthier.
Good posting! It is ironic that we get cautionary messages on cigarette packages that says smoking is harmful for health, but if you read the writing on that creatine container, there is no cautionary message on it. Sometimes on Websites they would mention "consult your doctor or medical practitioner", but I think there is an onus on the health store to also caution people who buy the product. Any product that is a stimulant should have a serious cautionary message, and there are quite a few of them in health stores. Green tea could even be a stimulant. So do some of the amino acids. The only supplements that really make sense to me are the ones that are balanced, like multi-vitamins, protein shakes that are balanced "food" with added fibre, and vitamins, "food" such as lecithin granules. All of the rest should be carefully looked at because if one should take an isolated supplement such as VitaminB5 there could be shortages of the other B vitamins as a result. Ditto calcium when it is not combined with other supplements, in fact some of the calcium supplements can even be toxic for health. The old trusted "bone meal" mixed in with food is a much healthier option.
Solon_Poledourus
I would think it's common sense to consult a doctor before dumping spoonfulls of chemicals down my throat. I don't know what people are thinking...
If you need to gain weight for muscle mass, then adjust your diet. If that doesn't work, then you might consider that you naturally have a certain build, and just deal with it.
deanhills
Solon_Poledourus wrote:
I would think it's common sense to consult a doctor before dumping spoonfulls of chemicals down my throat. I don't know what people are thinking...
If you need to gain weight for muscle mass, then adjust your diet. If that doesn't work, then you might consider that you naturally have a certain build, and just deal with it.
Right! That was why I was so impressed with your diet. Can't get more natural than egg whites and milk. Simple, uncomplicated, nutritious, no labels to read, and natural products. Not cheap, but most definitely in comparison with these protein powders much less expensive. Learned something here. Smile
Solon_Poledourus
deanhills wrote:
Right! That was why I was so impressed with your diet. Can't get more natural than egg whites and milk. Simple, uncomplicated, nutritious, no labels to read, and natural products. Not cheap, but most definitely in comparison with these protein powders much less expensive. Learned something here.
Well I don't follow it as strict as I used to, though I try. And it's not as expensive as you might think. My friend has a dozen or so chickens on some land, and I get about 18 - 24 eggs from him every week, free of charge. I do a bit of fishing too, so I save myself some money there. And I'm a bargain shopper.
deanhills
Solon_Poledourus wrote:
deanhills wrote:
Right! That was why I was so impressed with your diet. Can't get more natural than egg whites and milk. Simple, uncomplicated, nutritious, no labels to read, and natural products. Not cheap, but most definitely in comparison with these protein powders much less expensive. Learned something here.
Well I don't follow it as strict as I used to, though I try. And it's not as expensive as you might think. My friend has a dozen or so chickens on some land, and I get about 18 - 24 eggs from him every week, free of charge. I do a bit of fishing too, so I save myself some money there. And I'm a bargain shopper.
Free-range eggs, can't get better than that. Apparently eggs are of the healthiest foods one can find. At one point it was said it was bad for cholestrol, at another point specialists said it was OK without the yolks, but it must be one of the most nutritious foods there are. As part of an overall healthy diet of course, the veggies, fruits, etc. etc. ... Smile
Solon_Poledourus
deanhills wrote:
Free-range eggs, can't get better than that. Apparently eggs are of the healthiest foods one can find. At one point it was said it was bad for cholestrol, at another point specialists said it was OK without the yolks, but it must be one of the most nutritious foods there are. As part of an overall healthy diet of course, the veggies, fruits, etc. etc. ...
That's what I miss about living in South Carolina. There's an Abbey where the monks raise chickens and they sell the eggs. They are the best eggs ever. Big, brown, and just so flovorful. I love eggs.
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