I don't know much about this vid, it's apparently from Korean TV, but at about 1 min in a (palestinian?) girl physically stops some Israeli soldiers from shooting at a crowd of youths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA
Incredible. that is insane. That girl has some guts to do that. It's even more interesting because the soldiers are behaving weird.
| handfleisch wrote: |
I don't know much about this vid, it's apparently from Korean TV, but at about 1 min in a (palestinian?) girl physically stops some Israeli soldiers from shooting at a crowd of youths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyIKyd2gqA
Incredible. |
Well, if those youths were throwing and even slinging rocks at the soldiers, they are justified in returning fire. And notice, they're not spraying the area with full-auto fire; they're taking single, well-aimed shots.
The moral of the story: Throwing rocks at soldiers is a bad idea.why palestinian and Israeli have to fight each other all the time ?
| yuxan wrote: |
| why palestinian and Israeli have to fight each other all the time ? |
hhmmmm.. good question. I'll probably say because Palestine denies Israel the right to exist and is bitter over the lost of land while Israel insist on its right to exist and dislike the idea of rockets fired into their nation. Other than that, it's probably some political motivated agenda and the war mongering attitude of both nations?
Now Lebanon is trying to divert their attention by firing some rockets into Israel as well. These war hardened people probably miss the adrenaline rush of war times, destroyed buildings, dead bodies, bloodshed and the smell of destruction that they just can't hold a ceasefire long enough for the peace loving civilians.I think it's fake...
but its just me....
to be honest...they aren't sims to be Israelies...and if they are
I think this vid isn't from the last war...
but...its just me....believe what you want to believe...
Personally i think its slightly sad that the soldiers should have invaded the gaze strip all those 60 or so years ago..
but thats my opinion, i guess something in thier holy book states they have a right to that land over any other nation so maybe they feel inclined to take it....
@ParsaAkbari - Israel did not "invade" the Gaza Strip. Israel was simultaneously attacked by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria in the Six-Day War in 1967. In attempting to defend itself and drive back its invaders, Israel pushed them back so far that it ended up in the Gaza Strip. It chose to stay there to better defend its borders.
If the Arabs want to keep all their land, perhaps they shouldn't keep invading.
| sondosia wrote: |
@ParsaAkbari - Israel did not "invade" the Gaza Strip. Israel was simultaneously attacked by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria in the Six-Day War in 1967. In attempting to defend itself and drive back its invaders, Israel pushed them back so far that it ended up in the Gaza Strip. It chose to stay there to better defend its borders.
If the Arabs want to keep all their land, perhaps they shouldn't keep invading. |
Whatever the reasons, if country A's army goes across country B's border in this way it's an invasion, and if they stay it's an occupation, and this one has lasted decades. So cut the baloney. | handfleisch wrote: |
| Whatever the reasons, if country A's army goes across country B's border in this way it's an invasion, and if they stay it's an occupation, and this one has lasted decades. So cut the baloney. |
And if country B has a group of 'peaceful' people in it firing rockets at country A for a long time, country A is has the right to retaliate, so cut out the baloney. | Hogwarts wrote: |
| handfleisch wrote: | | Whatever the reasons, if country A's army goes across country B's border in this way it's an invasion, and if they stay it's an occupation, and this one has lasted decades. So cut the baloney. |
And if country B has a group of 'peaceful' people in it firing rockets at country A for a long time, country A is has the right to retaliate, so cut out the baloney. |
Well, the example was about the occupation of Gaza decades ago, not the current situation, if you would bother to read.
But as for what you are talking about, and as the entire international community has been yelling for weeks, no country has the right to commit wide-scale war crimes and human rights abuse the way that country A has been.[quote="handfleisch"][quote="Hogwarts"] | handfleisch wrote: |
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But as for what you are talking about, and as the entire international community has been yelling for weeks, no country has the right to commit wide-scale war crimes and human rights abuse the way that country A has been. |
Definitely..............but every country has a right to defend itself when attacked, to whatever extent it needs.
This is not the first counter-attack from Israel. In fact, Israel has never been the first to attack.
It is defending itself..............and when a neighbouring country doesn't learn after repeated attempts of ceasefire, what other option does it have?
When you have a number of neighbouring countries thirsting for your blood, you have every right to defend yourself. No one can dictate as to what extent you can defend yourself.
When the neighbour aims its guns hiding behind the shoulders of innocent civilians, the defending country has little choice but collateral damage.
Why do international 'communities' and human rights organizations never ask the Hamas when it breaks peace attempts? | prithvi wrote: |
Why do international 'communities' and human rights organizations never ask the Hamas when it breaks peace attempts? |
Mainly because they know it wouldn't do any good. Terrorist organizations have no respect at all for human rights. | Quote: |
| Quote: | sondosia wrote:
@ParsaAkbari - Israel did not "invade" the Gaza Strip. Israel was simultaneously attacked by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria in the Six-Day War in 1967. In attempting to defend itself and drive back its invaders, Israel pushed them back so far that it ended up in the Gaza Strip. It chose to stay there to better defend its borders.
If the Arabs want to keep all their land, perhaps they shouldn't keep invading. |
Whatever the reasons, if country A's army goes across country B's border in this way it's an invasion, and if they stay it's an occupation, and this one has lasted decades. So cut the baloney. |
AGAIN, country B ATTACKED country A, and Gaza and the West Bank belonged to Egypt and Jordan, respectively--two of the attacking countries. Israel didn't just choose to go across their borders because it felt like it. They attacked. Last time I checked, it's generally acceptable to fight back when you're attacked, rather than just sit there and let your country get invaded and conquered.Wow, thank for sharing... she has a point but another thing if they got guns too what is the USA suppose to do to protect themselves? They also didn't have to shoot off there guns and make them selves look likes idiots! They need to be punished for that.
| silverdown wrote: |
| what is the USA suppose to do to protect themselves? |
Wow, last time I checked the USA and Israel were different countries altogether... perhaps I should check again?Even here we can see two sides of opinion here about the Gaza war. It's exactly why the war prevails till today. To those who think A has no right to hit B when B attacks... then next time if a person throws a blow at your face... just turn around and say "thank you, would you like to hit my other side too?"
Yes this was has cause a lot of unnecessary lost of innocents, but it's all the doing of hamas who use civilian spots to launch their attacks. So many times you can read in the news that witnesses said attacks were carried out from places struck minutes later which killed civilians because hamas chose to sacrifice the innocent to give them the right to incite further hate.
The Gaza war is more like a chess board for the other nations to play their political agendas on.... this country calls on others to decalre war on that country because of this and that. Another country tells of another agenda etc. Then you even have idiots who wants to send in militants to fight with sharpened bamboos. What is this world coming to? What happened to "love your neighbour"?? It is so palpable that hate, violence, anger and destruction has consumed the minds of humanity. We should get back to the basics where LOVE conquers all.
| Kelvin wrote: |
| We should get back to the basics where LOVE conquers all. |
When, in history, has love conquered anything?
Face it, humans are evil creatures. | Kelvin wrote: |
| Even here we can see two sides of opinion here about the Gaza war. It's exactly why the war prevails till today. To those who think A has no right to hit B when B attacks... then next time if a person throws a blow at your face... just turn around and say "thank you, would you like to hit my other side too?" |
And that's exactly the problem. For some reason the world holds Israel to a different standard than other countries or even individual people. Other countries are expected to fight back when attacked, even occupying enemy territory to help protect themselves, but Israel's supposed to turn the other cheek. Add to that the fact that it's a tiny country the size of New Jersey, right in the middle of the HUGE Arab world.
With the way these people want Israel to act, it would've been completely destroyed years ago.In this video it can be seen how Hamas terrorists make use of a civilian ambulance to retire from a site where they came under attack. This is against international law and should arise protest and make it clear for everybody that there is an Army defending its country (making mistakes which happens in any war, mistakes that cost the lives also of some of its own soldiers) and a criminal band of Islamic extremists with an judeofobic program which even bases itself openly in the conspiratorial fabrication called Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the same as Nazi ideology did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPrkOExi-oI&eurl=http://www.elconfidencialdigital.com/Video.aspx?IdObjeto=414 The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) aid to Gaza is intended for the thousands of impoverished residents who have struggled under the harsh regime imposed by the Hamas gang since the terrorist group seized control of the region in June 2007. Last Tuesday evening the Hamas police raided a UNRWA warehouse in Gaza stealing at gunpoint 3,500 blankets and 407 food parcels. The UNRWA staff was present at the moment of the raid, but, unarmed, they couldn't avoid the grabbing of their resources. Interesting to see if those who claim to defend "Palestinian human rights" will have something to say about the incident or, that, for political correctness, the terrorists shouldn't be critized.
| GLOBALSTRATEGY wrote: |
| The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) aid to Gaza is intended for the thousands of impoverished residents who have struggled under the harsh regime imposed by the Hamas gang since the terrorist group seized control of the region in June 2007. Last Tuesday evening the Hamas police raided a UNRWA warehouse in Gaza stealing at gunpoint 3,500 blankets and 407 food parcels. The UNRWA staff was present at the moment of the raid, but, unarmed, they couldn't avoid the grabbing of their resources. Interesting to see if those who claim to defend "Palestinian human rights" will have something to say about the incident or, that, for political correctness, the terrorists shouldn't be critized. |
This is so true. Total chaos including people who are actually cashing in on the smuggling of supplies. And we rarely hear about any of this.
