Does anyone know of the Titanic ship? It was really sad when it sunk. 
Titanic
Are you talking about the RMS Titanic which sunk in 1912? I doubt you are quite that old, though if you are, congratulations. Not many people in their 90's venture onto the internet.
Lol I am only 16. I have done alot of research about it for one of my past sites.
| Rocko wrote: |
| Lol I am only 16. I have done alot of research about it for one of my past sites. |
Great stuff! So can you tell us what your thoughts are about the sinking of the Titanic? What do you think are the reasons it happened?
| deanhills wrote: | ||
Great stuff! So can you tell us what your thoughts are about the sinking of the Titanic? What do you think are the reasons it happened? |
-.- it hit a ice- mountain.
There's a few ideas on the cause of the Titanic sinking, because the Titanic was supposedly a very strong ship, with a steel hull, which in theory was supposed to have been able to survive icebergs like that. One of the most interesting events about the Titanic was that, when it crashed, it didn't sink all at once. Half of it sank almost directly at the point of impact, while the other half sank a good time after (I'm not sure on the amount of time, just that it was more than a day). Why, Rocko, do you think it sank like it did, and why exactly did it not survive something it was designed to prevent? I, like deanhills, am very curious on your thoughts.
all i know about the Titanic is that i saw in the movie, so ya i'm curious too. so please share your thoughts and your research.
| sana618 wrote: |
| all i know about the Titanic is that I saw in the movie.... |
Yeah, I know mostly only about that to, but the movie is also made as a movie that was based on a fake story, Rose never existed, that love affair was never on board. But many of the other things was actually true, like that Brown woman (the one that became rich but acted a bit more down to earth)
I'm to lazy to look for something on the internet, will probably end up spending a lot of time reading through the same things before something new will appear.
If anyone has a link to anywhere where I might find good research then post it here, I can spend one or two hours reading about it as long as it's good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic
http://www.titanic.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5712&forum=3&post_id=50276#forumpost50276
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-biography/thomas-whiteley.html
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-biography/thomas-whiteley.html
i think this is more then enough.
http://www.titanic.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5712&forum=3&post_id=50276#forumpost50276
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-biography/thomas-whiteley.html
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-biography/thomas-whiteley.html
i think this is more then enough.
There are tons of books on the Titanic and I've read quite a few of them. Most of the older books are great reads, but focus more on the human side of the tragedy and lives lost and the survivors. Even the official inquiries are limited in their depth of analysis and it's more about assigning blame than trying to figure out the details of what happened. The movie, while it has the fictional love story in it, does have alot of accurate historical detail as well.
Yes, everyone knows that she was going too fast and hit an iceburg which is the big reason why. Since Robert Ballard found the wreck, there has been alot of research into the engineering of the diaster, and alot of good insight has been developed in recent years. I have seen documentaries recently but I can't point to any one good source to read, but it generally seems to be held now that hull plates buckled from being too brittle, especially in cold water and poor quality rivets. The Wikipedia entry has pretty good discussion of it.
What continues to amaze me is that people of all ages and backgrounds are still captivated by the Titanic 97 years after she sank.
Yes, everyone knows that she was going too fast and hit an iceburg which is the big reason why. Since Robert Ballard found the wreck, there has been alot of research into the engineering of the diaster, and alot of good insight has been developed in recent years. I have seen documentaries recently but I can't point to any one good source to read, but it generally seems to be held now that hull plates buckled from being too brittle, especially in cold water and poor quality rivets. The Wikipedia entry has pretty good discussion of it.
What continues to amaze me is that people of all ages and backgrounds are still captivated by the Titanic 97 years after she sank.
I last have seen the film and it was very sad.
I came across this post on BBC, and instantly thought about this post.
I wonder what your opinion is on this.
I would say that it could most likely be true, British people high in the society would most likely be polite and let women and children go on the lifeboats and step back, maybe they thought there were enough lifeboats for all and though that they would be saved to, who knows.
I am pretty sure that people has learned from this incident, only because they think something is unsinkable doesn’t mean it is, always need to think that anything can happen.
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I wonder what your opinion is on this.
I would say that it could most likely be true, British people high in the society would most likely be polite and let women and children go on the lifeboats and step back, maybe they thought there were enough lifeboats for all and though that they would be saved to, who knows.
I am pretty sure that people has learned from this incident, only because they think something is unsinkable doesn’t mean it is, always need to think that anything can happen.
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| imera wrote: |
| I came across [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7843154.stm"]this post on BBC,[/url] and instantly thought about this post.
I wonder what your opinion is on this. I would say that it could most likely be true, British people high in the society would most likely be polite and let women and children go on the lifeboats and step back, maybe they thought there were enough lifeboats for all and though that they would be saved to, who knows. I am pretty sure that people has learned from this incident, only because they think something is unsinkable doesn’t mean it is, always need to think that anything can happen. |
This is a good reading imera. Thanks for the link. I would agree with this totally. I can just see that in my mind's eye! And they probably saved so many others in the process.
PS: I'm not British, or pro-British but this is one point I would have to agree on for the British society of that time.
i remember reading a lot of books and hearing about the titan during elementary years. i wonder if the US school system mention titan?
titan the movie was a great movie too
titan the movie was a great movie too
I went to some amazing exhibition about it, but I can't remember exactly what it was.
I am a Titanic lover as well. 
I kind of got into this Titanic craze after watching the 1997 movie, and then I researched all I could about the Titanic on the web. If anybody has any specific doubts about the sinking, I'd be happy to clear it up (as far as I know from the web, of course).
I kind of got into this Titanic craze after watching the 1997 movie, and then I researched all I could about the Titanic on the web. If anybody has any specific doubts about the sinking, I'd be happy to clear it up (as far as I know from the web, of course).I thought that the Titanic sory was very famous.
It sunk in 1912 if I remember well and was full of people fleeing misery in Europe, especially in England. But of course, as we saw in the movie, plenty of wealthy english were going to America to make bigger fortune.
It sunk in 1912 if I remember well and was full of people fleeing misery in Europe, especially in England. But of course, as we saw in the movie, plenty of wealthy english were going to America to make bigger fortune.
Titanic sank after it hit an iceberg. But if it was build like it was supposed to be, everybody had survived. Titanic sank because the watertight transverse bulkheads weren't closed at the top. They stopped like 10 cms from the top so all the water could go over them.
But eventhough it sank, more people should have been saved. Unfortunately they dicided to cut down on life rafts...
But eventhough it sank, more people should have been saved. Unfortunately they dicided to cut down on life rafts...
A tragedy that should never have happened. I don't care about the ship that sunk, more about the people that were lost. Common, all about their 'undestroyable ship' crap, that should have placed more lifeboats.
Not my expression, found on the web, sounds something like this: Titanic was built by professionals, Noah's Arc - by amateur.
Thought to distract you a little
Thought to distract you a little
ya really sad. They made a movie on it too..
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| Titanic sank after it hit an iceberg. But if it was build like it was supposed to be, everybody had survived. Titanic sank because the watertight transverse bulkheads weren't closed at the top. They stopped like 10 cms from the top so all the water could go over them.
But eventhough it sank, more people should have been saved. Unfortunately they dicided to cut down on life rafts... |
The sinking of the Titanic was one of the tragedies of the 20th Century. What makes it even more so is that there were many little things that could have changed the outcome; for example:
- There were insufficient lifeboats (due to regulations that required only sixteen for larger vessels) that weren't filled to maximum capacity during the sinking
- The Californian, a nearby vessel, did not respond until hours after the Titanic had submerged
- The officer on duty ordered the ship to turn to port, exposing the starboard side to the iceberg; one of the documentaries I have seen suggests that a direct head-on collision may not have compromised a sufficient number of watertight compartments for the Titantic to sink
- The icebergs that year were further south than usual and warnings did not reach the bridge
The watertight bulkheads, although they did not extend above E deck in some cases, apparently were instrumental in keeping the Titanic afloat for longer. The afore-mentioned documentary tested the scenario where the bulkheads weren't closed and their model rolled and sank in less time. The watertight bulkheads could have added as much as an hour to time the ship stayed afloat.
| imera wrote: |
| I am pretty sure that people has learned from this incident, only because they think something is unsinkable doesn’t mean it is, always need to think that anything can happen. |
Actually, no-one with an qualification claimed that the Titanic was unsinkable until after it sunk. The first person to suggest it was unsinkable came 2 days after it hit the ice berg (or 1 day after it sunk).
| LostOverThere wrote: | ||
Actually, no-one with an qualification claimed that the Titanic was unsinkable until after it sunk. The first person to suggest it was unsinkable came 2 days after it hit the ice berg (or 1 day after it sunk). |
Not really true.
Taken from a 1910 publicity brochure from White Star lines
"...[Titanic and the Olympic]..these two wonderful vessels are designed to be unsinkable."
More information on this, and similar claims HERE
A story of romantic yearning end for couples. I have seen this movie 4 times the historical accuracy of it I do not know much. Thank!
| Pin3apple wrote: |
| -.- it hit a ice- mountain. |
Classic.
I'd like to see Pin3apple re-write history books. Seems you could boil 10,000 years down to about 3 pages doing it this way.
| Solon_Poledourus wrote: | ||
Classic. I'd like to see Pin3apple re-write history books. Seems you could boil 10,000 years down to about 3 pages doing it this way. |
| Rocko wrote: |
| Does anyone know of the Titanic ship? It was really sad when it sunk. |
Well, I think 99% has seen this movie about the Titanic
the 'unsinkable' titanic sank drowning 1517 people on its maiden voyage in the night of april 14 1912 after midnight.
| Rocko wrote: |
| Does anyone know of the Titanic ship? It was really sad when it sunk. |
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| Titanic is a 1997 American romantic disaster film directed, written, co-produced and co-edited by James Cameron about the sinking of the RMS Titanic. It features Kate Winslet as Rose DeWitt Bukater, and Leonardo DiCaprio as Jack Dawson, two members of different social classes who fall in love aboard the ill-fated voyage of the ship. The main characters and the central love story are fictional, but some characters (such as members of the ship's crew) are based on real historical figures. Gloria Stuart plays the elderly Rose, who narrates the film in a modern day framing device.
Production of the film began in 1995, when Cameron shot footage of the real wreck of the RMS Titanic. He envisioned the love story as a means to engage the audience with the real-life tragedy. Shooting took place at the Akademik Mstislav Keldysh - which aided Cameron in filming the real wreck – for the modern scenes, and a reconstruction of the ship was built at Playas de Rosarito, Baja California. Cameron also used scale models and computer-generated imagery to recreate the sinking. Titanic became at the time the most expensive film ever made, costing approximately US$200 million with funding from Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox. Both studios were nearly bankrupted during production. The film was originally to be released on July 2, 1997, but post-production delays pushed back the film's release to December 19, 1997. After this news broke, the news media believed that Titanic would fail and take Fox and Paramount with it. The film turned into an enormous critical and commercial success, winning eleven Academy Awards, including Best Picture. It became the highest-grossing film of all time, with a worldwide total of $1.8 billion (it is the sixth-highest grossing in North America once adjusted for inflation.) |
It is the best sad I ever heard.
all down to cheap rivetts holding the ship together
the metal was an alloy and cheap at that
under pressure the weak ones snapped and let the water in
the metal was an alloy and cheap at that
under pressure the weak ones snapped and let the water in
lol, you seem to be emotionally attached to the ship. I hope you are not Jack resurrected! neways, the RMS titanic was a real luxury ship.
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