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Man To Go Cashless For A Year





geoveo
A 29 year old economics graduate is about to begin a year-long mission to live without money. He intends to live completely off the land and waste products he scrounges around his borrowed caravan at Timsbury, near Bath in the UK.
He plans to scour skips and other people's rubbish to find what he needs. He'll also make use of a scheme called Freecycle, a network of recycling enthusiasts; and Freeconomy which allows people to swap skills.

Do you think that you could survive for a year without money where you live?

Would you want to try it?

What would you miss most if you didn't have cash to buy it?
Ghost Rider103
That is kind of interesting, and would rather suck.

Would you want to go around eating other peoples trash? Who knows what the person had that was eating it before you. You could really catch some diseases for really no reason.

Now if you were out in a desert or something, then that would be better, but no way would I want to do this in some kind of city, that is just gross.

Also where I live, it often gets below 0 just about every night, and when I wake up my car is usually completely iced over, and takes 30 min up to an hour to get warmed up to where you can actually see out the window.

Could I survive where I live for a year? With this cold, and without some type if shelter, my chances of survival are probably pretty slim. I would probably get frost bitten, then hypothermia and die.

So would I want to try it? No.

I think I would mostly miss the good food, and a warm bed at night.
geoveo
I don't think it's part eaten food that he'll take from skips it's packaged goods that have been thrown away by supermarkets. Here is a UK newspaper reported :

Quote:
"A Sunday Mirror investigation has found major chains dump enough food to feed 6.3million people a year. Supermarkets are throwing away nearly two million tons of fresh food every year...as people in poor countries starve. And our check of supermarket bins found that much of the grub they chuck out is not even past its sell-by date. Our investigation found food thrown out with two or three YEARS still to run on sell-by dates, as well as perfectly edible fresh fruit, vegetables and eggs. Workers told our reporters there were simply not enough staff to reduce the prices, so it was sent to landfill, often still wrapped in plastic"




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SpellcasterDX
Wow that's pretty interesting.
I don't think I could go without money for a year, anywhere. Mostly cause I'm barely 15. But also cause I doubt I could survive in the wild.
geoveo
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Fatality
That would be tough living a year without money. I know around where I live I would have no problem finding food. American supermarkets and people in general are so wasteful that finding food to survive I think would be the easy part. Finding shelter might be the hard part since where I am it gets pretty cold in the winter and without proper clothes/heating I think you'd die. I think I would miss my electronics the most. Mostly my computer and the Internet. I know it's sad, but those take up most of my free time as well as my school and work time.
truespeed
freecyle is mentioned in the post though,on this site you could furnish a whole house for free,not only that you could even pick up cars and maybe even a caravan if you asked,so accommodation is possible,so i think its entirely possible this could be done,and not only done,but done to the point where he could live reasonably well.
jmraker
I think it'll be quite easy if he does it the David Blaine way, where he takes a half hour break every 15 minutes and uses cash while doctors check his health.
eday2010
So he decided that for a year he's going to be a freeloader. Nice.

Not something I would bother trying because I don't want to waste a year of my life doing something so useless. Nothing will come of this except that he spent a year mooching.
friuser
Did noone see Into the Wild. Much more amazing story and tragic which I can only assume the most horrible thing that can happen from this topic is the man gets food poisoning from eating from the garbage but I suppose if he lives in the city area he will not suffer death. I do not find this amazing or worth pondering. I see dumpster diving for food in the city already. That's quite amazing as it is.
Afaceinthematrix
I would have no problem doing that. I pride myself on being a low-maintenance to no-maintenance type of guy. I wouldn't want to do what he's doing, but I could do it without too much trouble.
missdixy
Sounds like a pretty intense mission to undergo! I don't think I could ever do it.
Ghost900
It sounds like quite an adventure.

I may try it for a while if I lived in southern US but here in MN it gets to cold to try that.
Finding food isn't the problem as multiple posters have said, but staying warm and not being bored would become a problem.

I would most miss my computer and home. Smile
truespeed
Getting a computer or laptop off freecycle would be easy,all you need to do then is tap into someones open broadband signal and your away.
Arty
I'm still never going to be able to live a year without any money

And why do they throw away all that food??? Confused
Ghost Rider103
People prefer to eat food that is much more fresh. The food they are throwing out is still good to eat, but will not last as long as the new stuff they are replacing it with.

Another reason they throw all of that food out, is because they order new food faster than they can sell it.
RomeyRoam
I have been living on very small amounts of cash for about 2 years now myself. Thusfar, in 2008, I have spent approximately 1200 USD and do just fine albeit it with low standards. The original reason I started to try something like this personal experiment I have been venturing on was to see if I could do it. The sheer challenge of it, you know? As time passed I actually got pretty disgusted by the sheer amount of waste in this country and it galvanized me in my project so much more as a result. I am a resourceful guy and have been good at it from the start so, I keep it going.

I don't eat out of dumpsters or anything like that either. Wink Nor do I receive any sort of government assistance. No foodstamps, social security or disability. Just my wits and experience. I tried panhandling for about an hour once, but hated it so never tried it again.

I have become fairly good at finding work trades instead of using cash, and a surprisingly large amount of people are okay with working something out in trade. I do a work trade for my rent, utilities, my daily bread, even computer parts. I learned alot of the skills I use today as a hitch hiker in my young years, traveling around the country and learning better ways to get better "deals" if you will.

So, I think if he is able to l;ower his standars a bit, and swallow some pride, he can manage his experiment just fine.
Josso
geoveo wrote:
I don't think it's part eaten food that he'll take from skips it's packaged goods that have been thrown away by supermarkets. Here is a UK newspaper reported :

Quote:
"A Sunday Mirror investigation has found major chains dump enough food to feed 6.3million people a year. Supermarkets are throwing away nearly two million tons of fresh food every year...as people in poor countries starve. And our check of supermarket bins found that much of the grub they chuck out is not even past its sell-by date. Our investigation found food thrown out with two or three YEARS still to run on sell-by dates, as well as perfectly edible fresh fruit, vegetables and eggs. Workers told our reporters there were simply not enough staff to reduce the prices, so it was sent to landfill, often still wrapped in plastic"




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YES. Glad this has got into the media, a friend of mine used to go round the back of our local co-op and find tons of edible food that was chucked away. He got new stuff every single day, provided quite a few dinners for himself. They either expired that day or about a day ago, and let's be honest unless it's milk or something the food is still FINE.
Libby
RomeyRoam wrote:
I have been living on very small amounts of cash for about 2 years now myself. Thusfar, in 2008, I have spent approximately 1200 USD and do just fine albeit it with low standards.


Wow, that's cool. I'm trying to do something kind of similar. For me, it's not really for the challenge, it's ethical and religious reasons, and so I don't have to pay taxes. But I'm having trouble keeping my spending down, I think mostly just because I'm too shy... Like asking someone to trade me food for working on their farm is something I've considered, but when I go to the farmers market I just chuck over the cash. >_< Ah well, just attempting has been good for me I think...
jmlworld
This is really very interesting mission, this guy is trying to reach a new milestone, he is trying to join the Genius Book of Records... It's a mission in which I would try, but is impossible for me.


Back to your questions:

geoveo wrote:
Would you want to try it?


For me I would never try this, because:

1. I'm COMMITTED to the life in the urban. Last year I visited some relatives of me living in the semi-rural areas and 7 days was about 7 years for me.. I rushed back to the city.

2. I'm NERD. Yes I like to watch something all the time. I'm massive soccer-madness man, I like to watch and follow all the matches of my favorite team as well as I like to watch a new movie once or twice each week.

3. I'm GEEK. I cannot live without a computer in general and Internet in particular. Thus I'm notorious Mr. Internet.

geoveo wrote:
What would you miss most if you didn't have cash to buy it?


Because of the above stated three reasons, I cannot go cashless for a year Shocked

I'll miss Internet, movies, sports, girl friend... Countless...
polly-gone
I could never do this. I am a narcissistic, egotistic, materialistic person. I could just never do that. If I had the opportunity to do it, I wouldn't. If I had to do it, I would find some way out of it. I just couldn't handle it.

-Nick Smile Smile Smile
winmark
And what will he get out of it? Lolz ... is he going to present some freeconomy theory later on? or is he doing it all just for the sake of guineas book of world record?
geoveo
Probably going to write a book, go on lots of chat shows and make shed loads money.

coolclay
Like others have said nowadays its so easy to live without money on other peoples waste. My senior year in college I probably spent about a total $100 on food. The rest we got from the local grocery stores dumpster. If normal people saw half the stuff the was thrown away people would be disgusted. When people think of dumpster diving to eat food they think of half eaten hamburgers. At least thats what I thought of until I started dumpster diving hardcore 5 years ago.

You find onions, potatoes, and all manner of vegetables with maybe a little bruise on them. Not to mention bread, I came home with 10 loaves of really nice bread that they make in the store. Because they sell it as "fresh" once it's a day old they toss it. We ate like kings too, in my small cottage I lived with 3 other friends, we had a small kitchen with a stove, oven, and sink. I must have gained 15 lbs that year!

So it won't be too tough to live without money for a year.
RomeyRoam
winmark wrote:
And what will he get out of it? Lolz ... is he going to present some freeconomy theory later on? or is he doing it all just for the sake of guineas book of world record?


Personal satisfaction maybe?
To prove the point mentioned several times that there is a gross amount of waste perpetrated by the majority of the population of the free world?
To not have to work?
To appreciate the little things a lot more than we tend to at this point?
All would be valid reasons for me. It's far simpler to value your own labor at what you need rather than some vaporous set of pay standards that are most likely out of date and inadequate to sustain a lifestyle that many of us would prefer. Any thing you have, can be found for free if you look in the right places. You'd probably cry at some of the stuff getting thrown away at college dorms at the end of a semester because those students have parents to buy replacements of all those toys. Heck, a friend of mine just found two perfectly functional laptops at the city dump that were no more than 3 years old. The only thing they were missing was a power supply. Shocked
hlavco
Doesn't sound too hard to me. First, they said he had a borrowed trailer; as long as he's parked someplace where he won't get fined he's good for shelter. And for food? Well, I live on a college campus... all you have to do is check the event schedules and I can guarantee that there's at least one club giving out free pizza and drinks every day of the week. If not, the fraternities seem to hold free outdoor barbecues even in the dead of winter.
ParsaAkbari
Well i am actually quite intrested. I would love to find free food and stuff round the back of supermarkets.

But strangley i have never seen any dumped food?
sana618
Ghost Rider103 wrote:


Now if you were out in a desert or something, then that would be better, but no way would I want to do this in some kind of city, that is just gross.

.



well to survive in a desert you may not need money, but still you need things to eat, ever thought how you are going to get it. Rolling Eyes .

i don't excatly know but i've heard that the desert tribes survive by barter system. they need grains and flour the essential commodities they barter their hand made goods (guess most of them know this) but did you know that they don't use soaps to wash them selves and water is a precious commodity........ so........ they rub their bodies with the warm(not hot) sand, sweat pores out and thy rub that off with a wet cloth..... lo be hold they are clean..... Wink.

sand makes a very good oven to make bread and cook or roast meat........

i hope that i'm not just repeting what every one knows.
sana618
Ghost Rider103 wrote:


Now if you were out in a desert or something, then that would be better, but no way would I want to do this in some kind of city, that is just gross.

.



well to survive in a desert you may not need money, but still you need things to eat, ever thought how you are going to get it. Rolling Eyes .

i don't excatly know but i've heard that the desert tribes survive by barter system. they need grains and flour the essential commodities they barter their hand made goods (guess most of them know this) but did you know that they don't use soaps to wash them selves and water is a precious commodity........ so........ they rub their bodies with the warm(not hot) sand, sweat pores out and thy rub that off with a wet cloth..... lo be hold they are clean..... Wink.

sand makes a very good oven to make bread and cook or roast meat........

i hope that i'm not just repeting what every one knows.
tony
geoveo wrote:
I don't think it's part eaten food that he'll take from skips it's packaged goods that have been thrown away by supermarkets. Here is a UK newspaper reported :

Quote:
"A Sunday Mirror investigation has found major chains dump enough food to feed 6.3million people a year. Supermarkets are throwing away nearly two million tons of fresh food every year...as people in poor countries starve. And our check of supermarket bins found that much of the grub they chuck out is not even past its sell-by date. Our investigation found food thrown out with two or three YEARS still to run on sell-by dates, as well as perfectly edible fresh fruit, vegetables and eggs. Workers told our reporters there were simply not enough staff to reduce the prices, so it was sent to landfill, often still wrapped in plastic"




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What??! Really?! I can use the food haha! But seriously, it is sad - and there are many needy people in the world who need it...
PatTheGreat42
I think if I were homeless I'd be vaugely annoyed at such studies.
PatTheGreat42
I think if I were homeless I'd be vaugely annoyed at such studies. Because this guy, who can afford to buy his own food, is going around stealing mine, ya know? People who legitimately need this stuff don't.
coolclay
Ha, yea that's a good point. But for the most part most dumpster are largely unharvested. At least I've never met someone else dumpster diving, or seen any shortage of goodies in most dumpsters. But I can certainly see how someone that is truly needy may get upset.
Kaseas
Wouldn't try it, but it'd be nice to see how it goes.
Zombie
Very cool. I think it would be even cooler if money suddenly had no value. Then everyone would have to do this. Even bill gates lol. Anyway, swapping skills sound neat... it reminds me of shoemakers and blacksmiths and stuff. I could have the wrong idea though.
spring567
It is hard to live without money .
I thought it must be funny to live alone with nothing when I was a child . Now I know life is not as easy as child's thought . So it will die soon when I don't have money for one year .
RubySlasher
My family would never allow me to do this.
Also it'd be rather dangerous, if someone saw me in dark alleys all the time harvesting food, they would probably try to steal me and ship me somewhere for money. :C

But I think I could pull this off easily, as long as I could take my computer with me, or else I'd get bored to pieces. It'd probably also be a good idea to try and look like a man, and maybe wear fake muscle/stomach pads to look like a buff and husky dude. (Also keeps in the warmth.)

I agree that stores have a ton of good foods that they just toss. My uncle brings us perfectly good meats like rib-eye steak all the time.
goutha
I think that it could be a good idea to give an example too people that through things everyday.
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