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Where is the international center in politics?





Stubru Freak
I find it funny that liberals are called leftist in the US, while in Europe they're mostly seen as tending towards the right. I for one admit to being to the left (social democrat), but in America I would probably be called far left.

There is a thing called the Overton window, which defines where the perceived center is in a certain region. But I'm wondering if, in international modern history, we could clearly define a center. Seeing we have examples of far left (USSR) and far right (Nazi Germany), would it be possible to find the political opinion that's right in between?

Also, do we need more than one axis instead of just left and right if we want to find the center? If so, how many?
ocalhoun
Stubru Freak wrote:


Also, do we need more than one axis instead of just left and right if we want to find the center? If so, how many?

The usual diagram has two; left-right (horizontal) and libertarian-totalitarian (vertical)
Moonspider
ocalhoun wrote:
Stubru Freak wrote:


Also, do we need more than one axis instead of just left and right if we want to find the center? If so, how many?

The usual diagram has two; left-right (horizontal) and libertarian-totalitarian (vertical)


Precisely, you can be a far right libertarian (not uncommon in the United States) or a leftist totalitarian (Hugo Chavez).
gandalfthegrey
Who cares?

The entire political spectrum thing is entirely bullshit. It just allows politicians to play it safe by playing to the status quo instead of trying to solve things with new or innovative solutions.
Any politician who says anything different is labeled a communist, socialist or fascist., and thus unreasonable.
Stubru Freak
gandalfthegrey wrote:
Who cares?

The entire political spectrum thing is entirely bullshit. It just allows politicians to play it safe by playing to the status quo instead of trying to solve things with new or innovative solutions.
Any politician who says anything different is labeled a communist, socialist or fascist., and thus unreasonable.


You've got a good point there. The main reason I started this topic was because I noticed that what is normal in Belgium (free health care) was labeled socialist or communist in the USA. It's strange how a different political spectrum makes the whole country think different.
Moonspider
gandalfthegrey wrote:
Who cares?

The entire political spectrum thing is entirely bullshit. It just allows politicians to play it safe by playing to the status quo instead of trying to solve things with new or innovative solutions.
Any politician who says anything different is labeled a communist, socialist or fascist., and thus unreasonable.


So are you saying that only communists, socialists, and fascists have new or innovative ideas? Wink
ocalhoun
gandalfthegrey wrote:
Who cares?

The entire political spectrum thing is entirely bullshit. It just allows politicians to play it safe by playing to the status quo instead of trying to solve things with new or innovative solutions.
Any politician who says anything different is labeled a communist, socialist or fascist., and thus unreasonable.


Just an extension of the normal human philosophy of "different than me = bad"
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