Any body know the real secret behind the bermuda triangle.Plz send me the scientific details.
Bermuda Triangle
| anoopc wrote: |
| Any body know the real secret behind the bermuda triangle.Plz send me the scientific details. |
The secret is statistics. And stupidity.
First the statistics. If you take an area of the same size - of any shape - and put it over any area in the world with as much sea traffic as that area, you find that the number of inicidents is not sigificantly higher than anywhere else in the world. Or to put it another way, you can take your triangle and plop it in the Mediterranian, or between China and the Philippines, or... anywhere... and you'll get roughly the same number of missing ships and planes. You can even change it to a circle or pentagon and have roughly the same numbers, as long as the area is the same, anywhere in the world with equivalent traffic. So there is nothing special about the Bermuda Triangle when it comes to planes and ships going missing. (Don't believe me that the shape is variable? http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/sea_of_expanding_shapes.html)
Now the stupidity. Reports of odd things happening in the Bermuda Triangle have been greatly exaggerated. Errors made by careless "Bermuda Triangle researchers" have never been corrected and get repeated with each telling. A number of the incidents claimed to have occurred in the Bermuda Triangle actually occurred well outside of it. The Columbus incidents for example. A number of ships were recorded as missing when they didn't show up on time, but when they did show up eventually late that wasn't recorded. Generally, people researching the Bermuda Triangle have been incompetent, lazy and/or both. There is no really noticeably significant amount of weirdness in the Bermuda Triangle.
I am a pilot. I have flown it several times. No aliens to report. No space warps either. Not even a decent light show! >_< Saw some clouds. Not weird ones, really, but there was one that looked uncomfortably similar to Rodney Dangerfield. I guess that was pretty spooky.
That's all there is to the Bermuda Triangle. Pwn3d. Next up on supernatural smackdown, the Philadelphia Experiment! ^_^
I don't think there is anything supernatural about that particular area. I mean come on, aliens?
However, in my opinion there might be some sort of scientific reasoning for some occurences. Perhaps in certain areas there is large amounts of magnetism that has not been picked up.
Who knows, however i am more inclined to agree with the above post, nothing wierd, just a bunch of stupid people telling a stupid story to more stupid people.
However, in my opinion there might be some sort of scientific reasoning for some occurences. Perhaps in certain areas there is large amounts of magnetism that has not been picked up.
Who knows, however i am more inclined to agree with the above post, nothing wierd, just a bunch of stupid people telling a stupid story to more stupid people.
Yeh, i agree too, i never really belived that anything supernatural was going on in there...
I saw a documentary on the discovery chanel about it... they mentioned something about the influence of Earth's magnetic field or something like that... that was suppose to influence planes and ships orientation instruments, and that would also be the reason they would get lost, and disapear, and all that stuff people talk about...
I saw a documentary on the discovery chanel about it... they mentioned something about the influence of Earth's magnetic field or something like that... that was suppose to influence planes and ships orientation instruments, and that would also be the reason they would get lost, and disapear, and all that stuff people talk about...
| Dj_honorio wrote: |
| el about it... they mentioned something about the influence of Earth's magnetic field or something like that... that was suppose to influence planes and ships orientation instruments, and that would also be the reason they would get lost, and disapear, and all that stuff people talk about... |
I think I saw that same documentary. I think somewhere they said something about giant bubbles of methane or something like that. I'm not really sure but I know that ships have sunk because of methane bubbles.
There are lots of bizarre theories cropping up to explain purported phenomena in the Bermuda Triangle, but:
Still, if you really want a laundry list of the wacky theories, here are a few of them, of varying scientific credulity.
Volcanos
Some speculate that there is increased volcanic activity in the Bermuda Triangle (and in the Devil's Sea, the Bermuda Triangle's less popular cousin, located near Japan). The theory is that underwater volcanos can suddenly erupt and destroy ships... and... apparently planes, too. -_- (This is related to the methane gas theory, which I'll get to later.)
Needless to say there is no evidence for any of this. No seismic activity has been recorded in relation to any of the purported mysterious events, and if there were an eruption of any note in that area, surely there would be some notable coastal activity off of Florida and/or Bermuda.
Magnetic dead points
I forget the name actually used for this theory, but magnetic dead points pretty much sums up the concept. The claim goes that the Bermuda Triangle is at some kind of focal point or node of the Earth's magnetic field, and/or/because it is only one a handful of places on Earth where magnetic north and true north are the same. Because of this, compasses go crazy, and ships and planes can get lost (according to the story, this happened to Columbus, but the story is a lie), and the magnetic effects affect the electrical pathways in people brains, causing them to see lights, etc. etc.
The claim that magnetic north and true north are the same direction in the Bermuda triangle is simply not true - I happen to know the current deviation between magnetic north and true north in that area is somewhere around 5°-6°. The claim that it is some kind of "node" or "knot" in the magnetic field makes no scientific sense and has no evidence to back it up.
Freak waves
It happens sometimes that ocean currents align in such a way to produce huge waves in deep water, sometimes against prevailing currents, and sometimes even on a clear day - think Poseidon or The Perfect Storm. These are colloquially known as freak waves. They used to be believed to be a myth, but now we know that they do happen, and it is believed they are responsible for several ship disappearances.
It is possible that freak waves have sunk at least some ships in the triangle, but planes? Also, there is no reason to believe that freak waves occur any more or less often in the triangle than in any other comparable area. And anyway, as I have said, there is no greater percentage of ship and plane loss in the triangle than anywhere else in the world.
Methane gas
It is known that if water that has become saturated with methane gas is much less bouyant than plain sea water. The same is true of methane gas in air. According to this theory, methane clathrate deposits at the bottom of the triangle - or possibly volcanos - suddenly erupt bubbles of methane gas into the surrounding water. When the methane rises to the surface, a ship floating will suddenly find that the bouyancy of the water has dropped, and it can't float on it any more. It sinks like a rock. Then when the methane gas gets into the air, the pressure differential across the aerofoils on a plane drops suddenly, and suddenly the wings aren't producing enough lift, and the propeller can't "bite" hard enough to produce the thrust necessary to compensate. The plane drops from the sky. (Theoretically - in practice, that won't happen. As the plane falls its airspeed will increase until there is a great enough flow to produce lift. A reasonably competent pilot could flatten out. The plane would still go down if the methane-saturated region is big enough, but the pilot would have plenty of time to radio a mayday.) If the crew of a ship were overcome by methane gas, it might produce visual hallucinations of lights, and/or, pockets of it might become ignited.
The triangle is known to have areas of methane clathrates in the sediments on the ocean floor, but then, so do many other regions, particularly along the eastern coast of Central and North America. It is possible that one or more of those deposits could have erupted and caused ship and/or plane disappearances, but then, it's probably just as possible that a stray meteor could have done it. In other words, it's pretty damned unlikely. It's far more likely that equipment failure or human stupidity would be the culprit.
Aliens/comets/Atlantis
There are, of course, lots of wacky theories about alien devices on the floor of the triangle, or that Atlantis was some super civilization that built a super device that caused Atlantis to sink, and now the device is still down there running and doing crazy stuff. *shrug* Read up on this stuff if you're interested.
Conclusion
There are varying theories trying to explain the "phenomenon" of the Bermuda Triangle, some close to plasible, some just wacky.
The problem is... there is no "phenomena".
These explanations are desparately trying to explain something that isn't really happening. Reports of weirdness in the triangle are simply false. Claims of a disproportionate number of disappearances are simply untrue. These theories are attempting to solve a mystery that doesn't even exist.
Put it this way, would you sit around trying to come up with scientific explanations for the glowing pink hippopotamus in your living room? You wouldn't? Why not? Because there isn't one? Well, I guess that makes sense.
So what is the point of trying to explain the "phenomenon" of the Bermuda Triangle? It's just as real as your glowing pink hippo.
- - There no evidence of any of strange phenomena occurring in the Bermuda Triangle.
- Most of the theories are founded on questionable science at best.
- No one has ever found any evidence for any of the theories.
Still, if you really want a laundry list of the wacky theories, here are a few of them, of varying scientific credulity.
Volcanos
Some speculate that there is increased volcanic activity in the Bermuda Triangle (and in the Devil's Sea, the Bermuda Triangle's less popular cousin, located near Japan). The theory is that underwater volcanos can suddenly erupt and destroy ships... and... apparently planes, too. -_- (This is related to the methane gas theory, which I'll get to later.)
Needless to say there is no evidence for any of this. No seismic activity has been recorded in relation to any of the purported mysterious events, and if there were an eruption of any note in that area, surely there would be some notable coastal activity off of Florida and/or Bermuda.
Magnetic dead points
I forget the name actually used for this theory, but magnetic dead points pretty much sums up the concept. The claim goes that the Bermuda Triangle is at some kind of focal point or node of the Earth's magnetic field, and/or/because it is only one a handful of places on Earth where magnetic north and true north are the same. Because of this, compasses go crazy, and ships and planes can get lost (according to the story, this happened to Columbus, but the story is a lie), and the magnetic effects affect the electrical pathways in people brains, causing them to see lights, etc. etc.
The claim that magnetic north and true north are the same direction in the Bermuda triangle is simply not true - I happen to know the current deviation between magnetic north and true north in that area is somewhere around 5°-6°. The claim that it is some kind of "node" or "knot" in the magnetic field makes no scientific sense and has no evidence to back it up.
Freak waves
It happens sometimes that ocean currents align in such a way to produce huge waves in deep water, sometimes against prevailing currents, and sometimes even on a clear day - think Poseidon or The Perfect Storm. These are colloquially known as freak waves. They used to be believed to be a myth, but now we know that they do happen, and it is believed they are responsible for several ship disappearances.
It is possible that freak waves have sunk at least some ships in the triangle, but planes? Also, there is no reason to believe that freak waves occur any more or less often in the triangle than in any other comparable area. And anyway, as I have said, there is no greater percentage of ship and plane loss in the triangle than anywhere else in the world.
Methane gas
It is known that if water that has become saturated with methane gas is much less bouyant than plain sea water. The same is true of methane gas in air. According to this theory, methane clathrate deposits at the bottom of the triangle - or possibly volcanos - suddenly erupt bubbles of methane gas into the surrounding water. When the methane rises to the surface, a ship floating will suddenly find that the bouyancy of the water has dropped, and it can't float on it any more. It sinks like a rock. Then when the methane gas gets into the air, the pressure differential across the aerofoils on a plane drops suddenly, and suddenly the wings aren't producing enough lift, and the propeller can't "bite" hard enough to produce the thrust necessary to compensate. The plane drops from the sky. (Theoretically - in practice, that won't happen. As the plane falls its airspeed will increase until there is a great enough flow to produce lift. A reasonably competent pilot could flatten out. The plane would still go down if the methane-saturated region is big enough, but the pilot would have plenty of time to radio a mayday.) If the crew of a ship were overcome by methane gas, it might produce visual hallucinations of lights, and/or, pockets of it might become ignited.
The triangle is known to have areas of methane clathrates in the sediments on the ocean floor, but then, so do many other regions, particularly along the eastern coast of Central and North America. It is possible that one or more of those deposits could have erupted and caused ship and/or plane disappearances, but then, it's probably just as possible that a stray meteor could have done it. In other words, it's pretty damned unlikely. It's far more likely that equipment failure or human stupidity would be the culprit.
Aliens/comets/Atlantis
There are, of course, lots of wacky theories about alien devices on the floor of the triangle, or that Atlantis was some super civilization that built a super device that caused Atlantis to sink, and now the device is still down there running and doing crazy stuff. *shrug* Read up on this stuff if you're interested.
Conclusion
There are varying theories trying to explain the "phenomenon" of the Bermuda Triangle, some close to plasible, some just wacky.
The problem is... there is no "phenomena".
These explanations are desparately trying to explain something that isn't really happening. Reports of weirdness in the triangle are simply false. Claims of a disproportionate number of disappearances are simply untrue. These theories are attempting to solve a mystery that doesn't even exist.
Put it this way, would you sit around trying to come up with scientific explanations for the glowing pink hippopotamus in your living room? You wouldn't? Why not? Because there isn't one? Well, I guess that makes sense.
So what is the point of trying to explain the "phenomenon" of the Bermuda Triangle? It's just as real as your glowing pink hippo.
| Indi wrote: |
| ...You can even change it to a circle or pentagon and have roughly the same numbers, as long as the area is the same, anywhere in the world with equivalent traffic. So there is nothing special about the Bermuda Triangle when it comes to planes and ships going missing. (Don't believe me that the shape is variable? http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/sea_of_expanding_shapes.html)
|
Hey, Indi,
First, I gotta saw I think the whole BT thing is pretty funny. Every now and then I try to read a "triangle" book, but I always have to put it down when I realize I have to shut off most of my brain to accept the "facts" and "reasoning" in them.
BUT...
I looked at the link you included and was looking at the map at the bottom of the page (last reported positions). The map seems to dispute the idea that a similar area would produce equal numbers in other areas.
Looks like the Gulf and Western Carribean are relatively safe, so it would seem that incidences were more prevelant in the bigger waters of the Atlantic and nearer the coast. But then you see all the dots over on the west coast of Florida. Those are waters you'd think where relatively safe.
Granted, the map is not validated data in my mind, but it doesn't seem to support the similar size explanation. I'm guessing the real answer would have to factor in traffic rates, reefs, weather patterns, etc.
I think it's (indeed) not that special. The people who live there use it to make the area well-known, all over the world, like the scottish Loch Ness
| HoboPelican wrote: |
| First, I gotta saw I think the whole BT thing is pretty funny. Every now and then I try to read a "triangle" book, but I always have to put it down when I realize I have to shut off most of my brain to accept the "facts" and "reasoning" in them. |
^_^
| HoboPelican wrote: |
| BUT...
I looked at the link you included and was looking at the map at the bottom of the page (last reported positions). The map seems to dispute the idea that a similar area would produce equal numbers in other areas. |
Yes, well, considering the source of the map, I'd call it questionable evidence at best.
In contrast, both the US Navy and Coast Guard have both stated that the area doesn't have a statistically higher rate of incidents.
But even more telling... insurance companies - which spend all of their time calculating odds for risk - don't consider the triangle to have a statistically higher rate of incidents than anywhere else. It doesn't cost you any more to insure a boat in the triangle than anywhere else comparable. These are the same guys who calculated that you have a statistically higher chance of being in an accident if you're in a red car than if you're in a grey one. When it comes to calculating risk statistics, they don't screw around. >_<
But actually... there is an interesting reason it can appear that there is a higher chance of an incident in the triangle. Sometimes random values cluster. It happens occasionally. You can roll a clean die 10 times and get something like 4,6,2,6,4,1,5,5,3,6 - nothing special about those results, they were just random. But! Sure seems to look like the die is more likely to give higher numbers, doesn't it?
The human mind is predisposed to identify patterns and relationships... and sometimes, unfortunately, we see patterns even when there are none. You can look at a chart of random points and think you see a trend - say that they all gather around one corner. But the points really were truly random. Your mind can play tricks on you. An unbiased statistical analysis won't be fooled, though.
I had a case study of the bombing of London during WW2 that I can't find now. The German V1 and V2 rockets guidance systems were really not that precise. Sure, they could hit London (most of the time), but exact targets in London? Hardly. Nevertheless, people studied the bombing patterns during the attacks and were sure they could see that the Germans were targetting specific locations due to clustering. But, of course, the impacts were completely random, and the pattern people thought they saw wasn't there. What I wanted to show you was the actual picture of the bomb impact patterns. Because even to me it looks like there was a pattern. Nevertheless, I know intellectually that there couldn't have been - due to the limited accuracy of the guidance systems - and statistics proves that. It really opened my eyes to how untrustworthy statistical guesstimations can be. I'll see if I can dig it up.
| HoboPelican wrote: |
| Looks like the Gulf and Western Carribean are relatively safe, so it would seem that incidences were more prevelant in the bigger waters of the Atlantic and nearer the coast. But then you see all the dots over on the west coast of Florida. Those are waters you'd think where relatively safe. |
The thing about the internet is, you can make and put any evidence you won't all you need is a host. You can make up any evidence you won't and stick it on line and people will believe it.
Look around the internet, you will find site showing "evidence" for and against every thing. Most of that "evidence" is lies copied over and over and over and over and over again by those who believe that "evidence."
Well I always thought that all that crap about that place was always true but really after reading what you've writen it makes hell of a lot of sense. Well said!
I'll surely visit that link
I'll surely visit that link
| Indi wrote: | ||
The secret is statistics. And stupidity. First the statistics. If you take an area of the same size - of any shape - and put it over any area in the world with as much sea traffic as that area, you find that the number of inicidents is not sigificantly higher than anywhere else in the world. Or to put it another way, you can take your triangle and plop it in the Mediterranian, or between China and the Philippines, or... anywhere... and you'll get roughly the same number of missing ships and planes. You can even change it to a circle or pentagon and have roughly the same numbers, as long as the area is the same, anywhere in the world with equivalent traffic. So there is nothing special about the Bermuda Triangle when it comes to planes and ships going missing. (Don't believe me that the shape is variable? http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/sea_of_expanding_shapes.html) Now the stupidity. Reports of odd things happening in the Bermuda Triangle have been greatly exaggerated. Errors made by careless "Bermuda Triangle researchers" have never been corrected and get repeated with each telling. A number of the incidents claimed to have occurred in the Bermuda Triangle actually occurred well outside of it. The Columbus incidents for example. A number of ships were recorded as missing when they didn't show up on time, but when they did show up eventually late that wasn't recorded. Generally, people researching the Bermuda Triangle have been incompetent, lazy and/or both. There is no really noticeably significant amount of weirdness in the Bermuda Triangle. I am a pilot. I have flown it several times. No aliens to report. No space warps either. Not even a decent light show! >_< Saw some clouds. Not weird ones, really, but there was one that looked uncomfortably similar to Rodney Dangerfield. I guess that was pretty spooky. That's all there is to the Bermuda Triangle. Pwn3d. Next up on supernatural smackdown, the Philadelphia Experiment! ^_^ |
| The Conspirator wrote: | ||
The thing about the internet is, you can make and put any evidence you won't all you need is a host. You can make up any evidence you won't and stick it on line and people will believe it. Look around the internet, you will find site showing "evidence" for and against every thing. Most of that "evidence" is lies copied over and over and over and over and over again by those who believe that "evidence." |
<sigh> can I just say "Duh"? If you'll look at my post, I state that I didn't consider the data validated. We all understand how the net works and the source page was obviously slanted.
I guess I didn't make the point of my post clear enough. I was trying to point out that the idea of taking a similar sized area and putting it anywhere would NOT give similar stats. The same area in the middle of the ocean away from standard routes would obviously (I think) have less 'incidents' than an area with heavy traffic, tricky weather, and dangerous shoals.
Not saying there is a triangle, just saying that the "same area/simliar incidents" response may not be a valid answer.
What is this Bermuda Triangle?? Why cant ppl what is present there.... I am eager to know. 
First I have heard there is sulferic acid leakin in the bottom of the ocean floor over it that would cause the ships to sink because it's alot denser (or mabey less dense something like that) than water...Basically ships cant float in sulfer lol....and for planes a bubble of this stuff in the air would cause a planes engine to cut out...I've heard this..Might be true...Might not...Thats why the bermuda's a mystery right? (I heard it on the discovery channel so it's was pretty convincing... They had alot more mumbo jumbo to say too though)
well let me say it's impressive what Indi is saying, I always thought that... pretty much all boats and airplanes and submarines venturing in that area were gone. I thought it's such a big deal because nobody really survived "to tell the story". but if he is right, then maybe it's no big deal at all, after all.
when I was very small and thought very silly about everything there is to think about... hehe... I used to think "duh, why don't people send a probe, like a floating-ship-thing that's chained to the land, and has cameras on it... and it's as soid as gibraltar... and small... so if something happens, at least we have a chance to see, or maybe even be able to rescue the probe, or, because it was chained (and presumably the chain wouldn't break), we could bring it back and analize it, or just keep it there while those... evil forces were at work, trying to harm it, but not managing to do that".
well, remembering this, and in the light of what Indi sais... I guess a probe like that could very well travel the bermuda triangle at leisure, and never be bothered by anything "evil", so you just wait there, like a fisherman, and nothing happens... and 10 years later the proble is still floating and still nothing happened...
(haha, and tons of ships around it still dissapear
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when I was very small and thought very silly about everything there is to think about... hehe... I used to think "duh, why don't people send a probe, like a floating-ship-thing that's chained to the land, and has cameras on it... and it's as soid as gibraltar... and small... so if something happens, at least we have a chance to see, or maybe even be able to rescue the probe, or, because it was chained (and presumably the chain wouldn't break), we could bring it back and analize it, or just keep it there while those... evil forces were at work, trying to harm it, but not managing to do that".
well, remembering this, and in the light of what Indi sais... I guess a probe like that could very well travel the bermuda triangle at leisure, and never be bothered by anything "evil", so you just wait there, like a fisherman, and nothing happens... and 10 years later the proble is still floating and still nothing happened...
(haha, and tons of ships around it still dissapear
)People always imagine the most negative thing
from http://skepdic.com/bermuda.html
Many theories have been given to explain the extraordinary mystery of these missing ships and planes. Evil extraterrestrials, residue crystals from Atlantis, evil humans with anti-gravity devices or other weird technologies, and vile vortices from the fourth dimension are favorites among fantasy writers. Strange magnetic fields and oceanic flatulence (methane gas from the bottom of the ocean) are favorites among the technically-minded. Weather (thunderstorms, hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, high waves, currents, etc.) bad luck, pirates, explosive cargoes, incompetent navigators, and other natural and human causes are favorites among skeptical investigators.
There are some skeptics who argue that the facts do not support the legend, that there is no mystery to be solved, and nothing that needs explaining.The number of wrecks in this area is not extraordinary, given its size, location and the amount of traffic it receives. Many of the ships and planes that have been identified as having disappeared mysteriously in the Bermuda Triangle were not in the Bermuda Triangle at all. Investigations to date have not produced scientific evidence of any unusual phenomena involved in the disappearances. Thus, any explanation, including so-called scientific ones in terms of methane gas being released from the ocean floor, magnetic disturbances, etc., are not needed. The real mystery is how the Bermuda Triangle became a mystery at all.
The modern legend of the Bermuda Triangle began soon after five Navy planes [Flight 19] vanished on a training mission during a severe storm in 1945. The most logical theory as to why they vanished is that lead pilot Lt. Charles Taylor’s compass failed. The trainees' planes were not equipped with working navigational instruments. The group was disoriented and simply, though tragically, ran out of fuel. No mysterious forces were likely to have been involved other than the mysterious force of gravity on planes with no fuel. It is true that one of the rescue planes blew up shortly after take-off, but this was likely due to a faulty gas tank rather than to any mysterious forces.
Over the years there have been dozens of articles, books, and television programs promoting the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. In his study of this material, Larry Kushe found that few did any investigation into the mystery. Rather, they passed on the speculations of their predecessors as if they were passing on the mantle of truth. Of the many uncritical accounts of the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle, perhaps no one has done more to create this myth than Charles Berlitz, who had a bestseller on the subject in 1974. After examining the 400+ page official report of the Navy Board of Investigation of the disappearance of the Navy planes in 1945, Kushe found that the Board wasn't baffled at all by the incident and did not mention alleged radio transmissions cited by Berlitz in his book. According to Kushe, what isn't misinterpreted by Berlitz is fabricated. Kushe writes: "If Berlitz were to report that a boat were red, the chance of it being some other color is almost a certainty." (Berlitz, by the way, did not invent the name; that was done by Vincent Gaddis in "The Deadly Bermuda Triangle," which appeared in the February, 1964, issue of Argosy, a magazine devoted to fiction.)
In short, the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle became a mystery by a kind of communal reinforcement among uncritical authors and a willing mass media to uncritically pass on the speculation that something mysterious is going on in the Atlantic.
Many theories have been given to explain the extraordinary mystery of these missing ships and planes. Evil extraterrestrials, residue crystals from Atlantis, evil humans with anti-gravity devices or other weird technologies, and vile vortices from the fourth dimension are favorites among fantasy writers. Strange magnetic fields and oceanic flatulence (methane gas from the bottom of the ocean) are favorites among the technically-minded. Weather (thunderstorms, hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, high waves, currents, etc.) bad luck, pirates, explosive cargoes, incompetent navigators, and other natural and human causes are favorites among skeptical investigators.
There are some skeptics who argue that the facts do not support the legend, that there is no mystery to be solved, and nothing that needs explaining.The number of wrecks in this area is not extraordinary, given its size, location and the amount of traffic it receives. Many of the ships and planes that have been identified as having disappeared mysteriously in the Bermuda Triangle were not in the Bermuda Triangle at all. Investigations to date have not produced scientific evidence of any unusual phenomena involved in the disappearances. Thus, any explanation, including so-called scientific ones in terms of methane gas being released from the ocean floor, magnetic disturbances, etc., are not needed. The real mystery is how the Bermuda Triangle became a mystery at all.
The modern legend of the Bermuda Triangle began soon after five Navy planes [Flight 19] vanished on a training mission during a severe storm in 1945. The most logical theory as to why they vanished is that lead pilot Lt. Charles Taylor’s compass failed. The trainees' planes were not equipped with working navigational instruments. The group was disoriented and simply, though tragically, ran out of fuel. No mysterious forces were likely to have been involved other than the mysterious force of gravity on planes with no fuel. It is true that one of the rescue planes blew up shortly after take-off, but this was likely due to a faulty gas tank rather than to any mysterious forces.
Over the years there have been dozens of articles, books, and television programs promoting the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. In his study of this material, Larry Kushe found that few did any investigation into the mystery. Rather, they passed on the speculations of their predecessors as if they were passing on the mantle of truth. Of the many uncritical accounts of the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle, perhaps no one has done more to create this myth than Charles Berlitz, who had a bestseller on the subject in 1974. After examining the 400+ page official report of the Navy Board of Investigation of the disappearance of the Navy planes in 1945, Kushe found that the Board wasn't baffled at all by the incident and did not mention alleged radio transmissions cited by Berlitz in his book. According to Kushe, what isn't misinterpreted by Berlitz is fabricated. Kushe writes: "If Berlitz were to report that a boat were red, the chance of it being some other color is almost a certainty." (Berlitz, by the way, did not invent the name; that was done by Vincent Gaddis in "The Deadly Bermuda Triangle," which appeared in the February, 1964, issue of Argosy, a magazine devoted to fiction.)
In short, the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle became a mystery by a kind of communal reinforcement among uncritical authors and a willing mass media to uncritically pass on the speculation that something mysterious is going on in the Atlantic.
I watched a show on the Bermuda Triangle on National Geographic Channel. It subscribed to the methane gas theory. It was proven in a lab that large-scale eruptions of the methane deposits in the Bermuda Triangle area could sink ships and stall airplanes, making them "go missing."
| Soulfire wrote: |
| I watched a show on the Bermuda Triangle on National Geographic Channel. It subscribed to the methane gas theory. It was proven in a lab that large-scale eruptions of the methane deposits in the Bermuda Triangle area could sink ships and stall airplanes, making them "go missing." |
Methane bubbles don't satisfy me. If all those ships were lost to having gas bubbles forming close enough to sink them, there would have to be a larger area that could SEE the bubbles and not be affected. Larger area should mean more ships to observe it. And an engine stalling on a plane is not a major disaster. Landing is pretty much normal and your radios are still operational. Ditching in water would be no fun, but I don't think you'd get a 100% kill ratio, so there should be reports of this.
(BTW - Glide ratios for most planes are such that even at only 1000 ft, you should be able to glide 2 to 4 miles, plenty to get away from the gas bubbles and ditch safely)
there is no real thruth. there is only a legend and tales. but some thing is wird about it.
Maybe the answer can be in the Huge waves that are very discussed in these days. I don´t know much about them, but if the Bermuda triangle is in the place where is bigger probability for this type of waves, than it could be responsible for the hig number of losts of ships in this area. There was a document on BBC telling a lot of information about this problematics so if you want to see and know more about it, just look at it. Name is The Huge waves.
Here is a website that I googled for: http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/
They also have info about sasquatch if you're interested in that. You could start your on cult or something.
They also have info about sasquatch if you're interested in that. You could start your on cult or something.
Even the Oregon Vortex is much interesting than this. Sorry
| redace wrote: |
| Maybe the answer can be in the Huge waves that are very discussed in these days. I don´t know much about them, but if the Bermuda triangle is in the place where is bigger probability for this type of waves, than it could be responsible for the hig number of losts of ships in this area. There was a document on BBC telling a lot of information about this problematics so if you want to see and know more about it, just look at it. Name is The Huge waves. |
These are also known as freak waves, and they have already been mentioned. See here: http://www.frihost.com/forums/vp-358786.html#358786 To repeat what has been said before, there is no reason known yet why there should be a greater incidence of freak waves in the Bermuda Triangle. Also, there is no "huge number of lost ships" in that area. The numbers have been exaggerated, and the statistics misunderstood.
There is no mystery in the Bermuda Triangle.
Its just a rumour. A mistake done by researchers and they cannot correct it ...................
I should try flying above it ............. Do planes and ships really avoid this area??????/
whplace
I should try flying above it ............. Do planes and ships really avoid this area??????/
whplace
| whplace wrote: |
| Its just a rumour. A mistake done by researchers and they cannot correct it ...................
I should try flying above it ............. Do planes and ships really avoid this area?????? |
No. Every day hundreds or perhaps thousands of planes and ships and boats pass through it.
| Arcannus wrote: |
| I don't think there is anything supernatural about that particular area. I mean come on, aliens?
However, in my opinion there might be some sort of scientific reasoning for some occurences. Perhaps in certain areas there is large amounts of magnetism that has not been picked up. Who knows, however i am more inclined to agree with the above post, nothing wierd, just a bunch of stupid people telling a stupid story to more stupid people. |
i agree with this post some thing people have probly just haven't figured out yet
| Rookiejas wrote: | ||
i agree with this post some thing people have probly just haven't figured out yet |
The problem with that is that there's nothing to figure out. You can say there may be an explanation for the disappearances that science hasn't figured out yet, sure - science hasn't figured everything out yet, so it's certainly possible.
There's only one little hitch.
There are no mysterious disappearances.
There never were.
There are no more unexplained disappearances in that section of water/air than there are anywhere else in the world. We know what happened to Flight 19 - and they weren't beamed to Atlantis. We also know what Columbus saw, and why his compass appeared to be acting strange (and he wasn't even in the Triangle when those things happened). The idea that there is sime kind of mystery there comes from bad research that's been repeated verbatim. There is no reason to believe that there is something mysterious in the Bermuda Triange.
Let me put it this way. This is essentially what you're saying:
"There may be some scientific explanation for the mysterious disappearances of cars on the 407 freeway in Ontario. Perhaps there are sinkholes along the highway that have not been discovered yet."
Now, have you heard of any mysterious disappearances of cars on the 407? Of course not, because there aren't any. So why assume an explanation for a phenomenon that doesn't exist?
| Indi wrote: |
|
"There may be some scientific explanation for the mysterious disappearances of cars on the 407 freeway in Ontario. Perhaps there are sinkholes along the highway that have not been discovered yet." |
I hadn't heard about that one yet! Wow, cars are really disappearing on the 407? Is it all kinds of motor vehicles, or just cars? How long has this been going on?I bet conestoga wagons disappeared back in the the 1800s, don't ya think?
Nice going, indi. I can see a whole new "mystery" growing up around that last post. 
| HoboPelican wrote: | ||
I hadn't heard about that one yet! Wow, cars are really disappearing on the 407? Is it all kinds of motor vehicles, or just cars? How long has this been going on?I bet conestoga wagons disappeared back in the the 1800s, don't ya think? Nice going, indi. I can see a whole new "mystery" growing up around that last post. |
*snicker*
Hey, you know, the first person to write a book about it will probably have a best seller. Race you to it!
The secret to the Bermuda Triangle is in the shape. Any other design, and it simply would not work.
Bermuda Circle? No way.
Bermuda Square? Is this some kind of dance?
Bermuda Trapezoid? Be serious.
Bermuda Circle? No way.
Bermuda Square? Is this some kind of dance?
Bermuda Trapezoid? Be serious.
Sinkholes through earth (I don't think possible) Anyway. Since I was 8 my best friend and I love to make up ghost stories (and it scared mainly ourselves). Then we discovered this Bermuda Triangle. Young as we are, we both believed there to be a logical explanation to all those disappearances. We questioned our 'superstitious' beliefs like this:
If there are really aliens, or UFOs constantly hovering above the triangle, how would they pick up large ships and planes? And why would they? Why should they choose this particular area? As a conclusion my friend and I decided that there is nothing supernatural about the Bermuda Triangle. It might just be an area of extreme weather.
If there are really aliens, or UFOs constantly hovering above the triangle, how would they pick up large ships and planes? And why would they? Why should they choose this particular area? As a conclusion my friend and I decided that there is nothing supernatural about the Bermuda Triangle. It might just be an area of extreme weather.
| afgdomain wrote: |
| As a conclusion my friend and I decided that there is nothing supernatural about the Bermuda Triangle. It might just be an area of extreme weather. |
*sigh* T_T
If you add all the angles of the Bermuda Triangle, they add up to 666 degrees! Isn't that so bizarre!
| UHF123 wrote: |
| If you add all the angles of the Bermuda Triangle, they add up to 666 degrees! Isn't that so bizarre! |
To quote Indi....
*sigh*
if you guys know god put so many things in this universe so how do you kno there isnt any aliens i think there are, but there are some bullshit believers that believe we are alone and thats kind of stupid theres probably 1 million planets we just havent really seen everything. i dont see astronauts crusin around the universe searching for these things. so you cant say theres no aliens, and maybe there is something guy on in the bermuda triangle.
| roach831 wrote: |
| if you guys know god put so many things in this universe so how do you kno there isnt any aliens i think there are, but there are some bullshit believers that believe we are alone and thats kind of stupid theres probably 1 million planets we just havent really seen everything. i dont see astronauts crusin around the universe searching for these things. so you cant say theres no aliens, and maybe there is something guy on in the bermuda triangle. |
I'm not saying we are the only life in the universe. I'm not even saying we are the only intelligent life. I just don't see any valid reason to think that anything unusual is happening in what has been called the bermuda triangle, which is the topic here. I dispute not the cause, but the existence of the triangle.
| roach831 wrote: |
| if you guys know god put so many things in this universe so how do you kno there isnt any aliens i think there are, but there are some bullshit believers that believe we are alone and thats kind of stupid theres probably 1 million planets we just havent really seen everything. i dont see astronauts crusin around the universe searching for these things. so you cant say theres no aliens, and maybe there is something guy on in the bermuda triangle. |
You know what, maybe it's possible that the strange lights everyone saw over New York City last night were alien ships. Or maybe they were anomalous weather conditions in the upper atmosphere, like pockets of gas igniting. Or maybe the government was testing spy drones and they malfunctioned, or maybe someone fired missiles that exploded and rained a drug down to make the population quiet and well behaved. Any of these things could be possible, you just don't know, right?
Except for one minor problem. There were no strange lights over New York City last night.
Do you see the problem? Before you can say "maybe there is a far out explanation for something"... there has to be a "something".
Before you can say "maybe there is something strange making ships and planes disappear mysteriously in the Bermuda Triangle"... first there have to be ships and planes disappearing mysteriously. There aren't and never have been. One man's crap-ass research, which has been repeatedly shown to be crap-ass research by any and everyone that has looked back for evidence of his claims, has been repeated over and over and over by people either too lazy or too incompetent to verify his claims.
What is the point of looking for answers to a mystery that doesn't exist?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_triangle
thnxs
i think ufos are there in the water of burmuda triangle because when people have been abducted by aliens believe me or not when they were in there car the ufo has over powered the car and the car stopped on its own so maybe with ships and airplanes it does that and i heard from like phycis and shit a guy named nostrodamous famous in the 1500 for predicting alot of future stuff like 9-11 and all has said that so i believe ufos are there under water.
| Indi wrote: | ||
The secret is statistics. And stupidity. |
Concur 100%.
Some additional facts to emphasis Indi's posting on this :-
According to Lloyd's Records,
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| 428 vessels have been reported missing throughout the world since 1955, they confirm that there is no evidence to support the claim that the Bermuda Triangle has more losses than elsewhere, or a similar size and geography. This finding is upheld by the United States Coastguard whose computer based records of casualties in the Atlantic go back to 1958." |
the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard also point out that the area is one of the most highly trafficked for amateur pilots and sailors, so more traffic leads to more accidents and disappearances. In this event it is suprising that the numbers of mysterious disappearances is actually as low as it appears to be.
If you still need convincing then I recommend a recent book - a snip at £3- by Lawrence David Kusche who has done some proper research and investigation into the issue. His conclusion, unsuprisingly is not disimmilar to Indi's.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Bermuda-Triangle-Mystery-Solved-by-L-D-Kusche_W0QQitemZ250020216673QQihZ015QQcategoryZ72327QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Regards
Chris
Yep Just a Coincidance
Also nostradamus prodicticted the end to be a while ago and im pretty sure im still alive
then again?
Also nostradamus prodicticted the end to be a while ago and im pretty sure im still alive
then again?
I think earth will soon be flooded by aliens. These aliens use the bermuda triangle as their sink. Occasionally they flush the area and the sucking is that big, that even planes get sucked into it. Be aware people, watching discovery channel can be dangerous. And stay away from that sailing boat that you are dreaming of buying 
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thats true, the bermuda triangle is nothing special...
what about life outside of earth
Do aliens really exist
or is it just tiny microbacteria that exist on say mars (where water was found there must be life right?)
And its common knowledge that the world will end (believe it or not(!) )
how does life then continue.
When we all die out..(by the way i doubt like you see in the films that people escape to live elsewhere)
what about life outside of earth
Do aliens really exist
or is it just tiny microbacteria that exist on say mars (where water was found there must be life right?)
And its common knowledge that the world will end (believe it or not(!) )
how does life then continue.
When we all die out..(by the way i doubt like you see in the films that people escape to live elsewhere)
I also dont thik there is any special thing about the bermuda triangle.
and about aliens well, who knows right
and about aliens well, who knows right
| anoopc wrote: |
| Any body know the real secret behind the bermuda triangle.Plz send me the scientific details. |
In my opinion, I think there are something wrong with magnetic field out there.
All area in earth have some electromagnetic energy. This energy comes from the core of the earth. Up to 10k Km below us ( underground ). This core consist of lava and the other Hot Liquid material that can produce stone and land in the earth.
This material is spinning and produce some electromagnetic field.
The Bermuda's has some anomaly about things above.
Very nice discussion with lots of interesting facts! Just last night I watched the documentary about the bubbles.
After all its not clear thou, what is the cause of all these disappearances, but its a nice start in the right direction.
Thanks to you all for the interesting contributions.
Fribee
After all its not clear thou, what is the cause of all these disappearances, but its a nice start in the right direction.
Thanks to you all for the interesting contributions.
Fribee
Hey what about the big waves alternative of quantum mechanical interference. There must be ideal enviroment for this type of waves I think.
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| Myth 1.
“A check of Lloyd’s of London’s accident records by the editor of Fate in 1975 showed that the triangle was a no more dangerous part of the ocean than any other. U.S. Coast Guard records confirmed this and since that time no good arguments have ever been made to refute those statistics. So the Bermuda Triangle mystery disappeared, in the same way many of its supposed victims had vanished.” Fact 1 This is completely false. Lloyd’s does not insure the smaller stuff, so all yachts go unreported and uncataloged in statistics. Lloyd’s seldom insures the smaller charter and private aircraft, so likewise for them. Lloyd’s is not the ultimate source. It is not a marine investigation bureau. It reports on sailing news relevant to insurance. US Coast Guard SAR (Search and Rescue) statistics for all districts are published yearly in a thick voluminous report. This details the statistics for calls of assistance, causes of accidents, weather, deaths, conditions, whatever. However, missing vessels are not readily included. In reality, the designation Overdue Vessels are more important. But because it is hard to determine the number of people on board and exactly where the vessel last was, “missing” or “overdue” cannot be easily calculated. They may be catagorized under “caused by other factor” if at all. I have just received a list of vessels from the 7th district after 12 years of asking for and being denied missing vessel statistics, always receiving the reply “nobody tracks such statistics.” For the last 2 fiscal years this includes about 300 vessel names or types. And now I must start my search, to see which reported back to port (if any), what the weather conditions were like, etc. The Coast Guard is not even capable of accurately determining the numbers, and therefore could never have conducted a study. What they probably did was comment on the popular notion that 20 aircraft and 50 ships are missing. That number was bandied about incessantly in the 1970s and is still in the Encyclopedia Britannica. This number is not extraordinary for 100 years, though it is more aircraft than elsewhere over seas. NTSB database searches reveal that in the last decade only a handful of aircraft disappearances have occurred off New England while over 30 have happened in the Triangle. These are American statistics only, and do not reflect other nationalities. Then there are those who claim the disparity is due to the Triangle’s greater amount of traffic. In reality, the 1st Coast Guard district answers about just as many calls for assistance as the 7th, but the number of disappearances is still remarkably different. Myth 2 “Investigations to date have not produced scientific evidence of any unusual phenomena involved in the disappearances. Thus, any explanation, including so-called scientific ones in terms of methane gas being released from the ocean floor, magnetic disturbances, etc., are not needed. The real mystery is how the Bermuda Triangle became a mystery at all.” Fact 2 Not only utterly false, but actually stupid. One would have to witness a disappearance in order to determine what was directly involved. This has obviously not be done, and such a comment, as a result, is a lame one. There have been NO scientific expeditions to investigate the overall Triangle. Independent people, often possessing degrees in one of the sciences, have made their own, sometimes truncated study. Most have produced some very interesting discoveries. Dr. A.J. Yelkin’s study revealed unexplained magnetic deviations during phases of the Moon. Dr. Zink’s observations at Bimini revealed unexplained magnetic variations in the compass at the precise time each year in early August (consistent in some ways with Yelkin’s theories). Wilbert Smith’s studies revealed areas of “reduced bindings” in the magnetic field that came and went. But as for any scientific expeditions into the Triangle to take readings or tests or to see if something would happen, none has ever been done. Myth 3 In short, the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle became a mystery by a kind of communal reinforcement among uncritical authors and a willing mass media to uncritically pass on the speculation that something mysterious is going on in the Atlantic. Fact 3 Wrong. And the acrimony is hypocritical since that is how the first 2 myths above became established, usually by debunkers spreading “communal reinforcement” that they have evidence by having no evidence or that they reflect the status quo as experienced by suburban America. Myth 4 In 1492, shortly before making land in the West Indies, Christopher Columbus recorded in his ship's log that he and his crew had observed a large ball of fire fall into the sea and that the ship's compass was behaving erratically. Fact 4 False. That happened shortly after leaving the Canary Islands. The erratic compasses readings were recorded thrice while in the Sargasso Sea and Triangle. Myth 5 The Bermuda Triangle mystery is answered with latest science - static electricity is the culprit, not 4th dimensional hogwash— that a severe electrostatic charge on the human body and in turn in the central nervous system and the brain is the cause for the human pilot to lose consciousness. This unconscious state happens both in astronautics and aeronautics and has also been observed and recorded in the Bermuda Triangle aviation disasters. The Bermuda Triangle is a static electricity exchange place. The Bermuda Triangle is on [sic] of Earth's places where natural electricity is neutralized. Fact 5 False. The effects of the Earth as a weak driver is interesting and the subject of some studies, as well as overwater locations where it might affect electromagnetism. But there is absolutely no evidence for static electricity in the Triangle cases, as claimed above. The claim that there was is utterly untrue. No pilots have been reported to pass out. How could you tell in a disappearance anyway? This originates with a man named Peter Staheli. He accepts the old and defunct lines attributed to Charles Taylor “everything is strange, wrong” etc., and so forth. This gives you an idea of his research methods. Electromagnetic and electrical effects in the area are being studied by others right now, with far better research methods than those that sponsored Staheli’s strange dogma. Due to the strange outburst demonstrated by Staheli in response to this brief statement, it was necessary to place a page up clarifying the ruckus. See Comments Myth 6 Lt. Charles Taylor, the leader of Flight 19, was actually a lazy slob, a drunk, and a careless navigator. Fact 6 This rubbish stems from Larry Kusche who was all over the place in his 1980 book The Disappearance of Flight 19 which he wrote between two of his other stellars on how to scientifically pop popcorn. I cannot answer for what was in Kusche’s mind, but I would consider the result akin to clear victimization, as well as misrepresentation. I suggest the reader browse two articles on this site for more. Creating Confusion & Flight DUI. As far as I am concerned there is nothing worthwhile in the book. I have criticized his methods in The Bermuda Triangle Mystery— Solved, but still recommend it. However, with Disappearance I see no reason. There is no mystery why in the last 22 years it was never republished. Myth 7 The majority of disappearances can be attributed to the area's unique environmental features. First, the "Devil's Triangle" is one of the two places on earth that a magnetic compass does point towards true north. Normally it points toward magnetic north. The difference between the two is known as compass variation. The amount of variation changes by as much as 20 degrees as one circumnavigates the earth. If this compass variation or error is not compensated for, a navigator could find himself far off course and in deep trouble. Fact 7 False. The Agonic Line— the area of no difference in calculation— moves over time as the axis of the magnetic field slowly changes in response to the Earth’s rotation. It is now approaching the middle of the Gulf of Mexico— as far as the Coast Guard is concerned far outside of the Triangle. Disappearances continue to occur in the same areas within the Triangle. The Coast Guard statement above is 30 years obsolete, but they have not updated it. To do so would prove most of their statement to have been in error. Myth 8 You receive money to do this. You are not a professional researcher, nor do you have a degree in Bermuda-Triangleology. Since you are not a “who” according to this standard, all of the evidence you present must be dismissed. ED. All right, maybe a little bit of that is tongue-in-cheek, but it captures the acrimony of one detractor on the web who calls himself Tobias Gibson, a man who seems to promote himself and his degree in Research as giving him an edge on the Triangle, though he seems to have little knowledge of what has transpired in the last 25 years. His research, degree or no, translates down to having watched a couple of PBS videos and to having read a couple of 30 year old books, as his bibliography testifies. Fact 8 Suffice it say, I am not paid for my appearances on TV. My web site costs me money. There is no paid advertising, no pop-ups. There are a few banners. These were requested by those establishments and are gratis. They generate no income. ED. Another myth perpetrated by this spinmeister about me, a man who propagates many falsehoods on his web site, conjures up a frightful picture of what his reading comprehension must be like. The following myth is courtesy of this man and his inability to realize people take their reputations seriously. |
| healyrj wrote: |
| Myth 1.
“A check of Lloyd’s of London’s accident records by the editor of Fate in 1975 showed that the triangle was a no more dangerous part of the ocean than any other. U.S. Coast Guard records confirmed this and since that time no good arguments have ever been made to refute those statistics. So the Bermuda Triangle mystery disappeared, in the same way many of its supposed victims had vanished.” |
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Point 1 - this is a verbatim reprint of the page on :
http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/myths___facts.html
This is hardly an impartial source and, in any case, should be cited as a source if your entire contribution is taken from it.
Point 2 - refuting the original article this was taken from :
a) Lloyds is far more than just an insurer. This is what it has to say about itself :
| Quote: |
| Lloyd's List, the authoritative voice of the maritime industry, including incisive coverage of world shipping, insurance, energy and logistics markets. |
There is a Lloyds report specially on this issue but it is only available to the 'names'.
b)
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| One would have to witness a disappearance in order to determine what was directly involved. This has obviously not be done, and such a comment, as a result, is a lame one. There have been NO scientific expeditions to investigate the overall Triangle. |
Au contraire: There have been many books and some of them are based in scientific method. One worth mention would be Larry Kusche's 'Bermuda Triangle Mystery - Solved' which the author of this passage obviously does not like but does not really refute.
The need for an expedition is a straw man argument since one does not have to visit the triangle to study phenomena relating to it (try the argument with 'the moon' for example). Some disinterested sources would be
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq8-1.htm
http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/triangle.htm
c)
| Quote: |
| You receive money to do this. You are not a professional researcher, nor do you have a degree in Bermuda-Triangleology. Since you are not a “who” according to this standard, all of the evidence you present must be dismissed. |
I would not go that far but Gian Quasar (the author of the above) is certainly not a disinterested researcher since his book is a major source of income.
If anyone still believes or is unsure then get the Kusche book which really is a scientific look at this issue, despite the views of Quasar
Regards
Chris
i don´t believe any this stories to the bermuda triangle
As the great Barry Manilow once said:
We decide to get away
And have some fun
Book a room and catch a flight
For two weeks in the sun
She says, "Hawaii's too expensive."
I say, "Barbados isn't bad."
She says, "I'd love to see Bermuda"
And I say, "Woman, are you mad!"
Bermuda Triangle
It makes people disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Don't go too near
But she
Doesn't see my angle
And she thinks I'm being dumb
So Bermuda Triangle
Here we come!
Lying with my woman on
The island sand
I look up and see her with
A stranger, hand in hand
I see her sitting on his blanket
I see them going for a swim
And when I run to find my woman
I find her running after him!
Bermuda Triangle
Makes my woman disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Dont' go too near
Looking
At it from my angle
Do you see why I'm so sad
Oh Bermuda Triangle
Very bad!
Lying lost and lonely on
The island sand,
When a lovely stranger says
Hello and takes my hand
And soon she's sitting on my blanket
And then we're going for a swim
When I say, "What about your boyfriend?"
She turns and waves goodbye to him!
Bermuda Triangle
It makes people disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Don't go too near
But look
At it from my angle
And you'll see why I'm so glad
Now Bermuda Triangle
Not so bad!
Everybody
Bermuda Triangle
It makes people disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Don't go too near
But look
At it from my angle
And you'll see why I'm so glad
Now Bermuda Triangle
Not so bad!
We decide to get away
And have some fun
Book a room and catch a flight
For two weeks in the sun
She says, "Hawaii's too expensive."
I say, "Barbados isn't bad."
She says, "I'd love to see Bermuda"
And I say, "Woman, are you mad!"
Bermuda Triangle
It makes people disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Don't go too near
But she
Doesn't see my angle
And she thinks I'm being dumb
So Bermuda Triangle
Here we come!
Lying with my woman on
The island sand
I look up and see her with
A stranger, hand in hand
I see her sitting on his blanket
I see them going for a swim
And when I run to find my woman
I find her running after him!
Bermuda Triangle
Makes my woman disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Dont' go too near
Looking
At it from my angle
Do you see why I'm so sad
Oh Bermuda Triangle
Very bad!
Lying lost and lonely on
The island sand,
When a lovely stranger says
Hello and takes my hand
And soon she's sitting on my blanket
And then we're going for a swim
When I say, "What about your boyfriend?"
She turns and waves goodbye to him!
Bermuda Triangle
It makes people disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Don't go too near
But look
At it from my angle
And you'll see why I'm so glad
Now Bermuda Triangle
Not so bad!
Everybody
Bermuda Triangle
It makes people disappear
Bermuda Triangle
Don't go too near
But look
At it from my angle
And you'll see why I'm so glad
Now Bermuda Triangle
Not so bad!
some question.
How deep the sea at Bermuda Triangles?
why those /accident missing planes or ships are missing without any trace?
at least they should find some of skeleton from the victims in the deep sea at Bermuda or some crashing part from accident of the plane or ship
can somebody explain this ...
How deep the sea at Bermuda Triangles?
why those /accident missing planes or ships are missing without any trace?
at least they should find some of skeleton from the victims in the deep sea at Bermuda or some crashing part from accident of the plane or ship
can somebody explain this ...
| doomz wrote: |
| How deep the sea at Bermuda Triangles? |
It varies, obviously, partly because different people draw different triangles. Parts of the area are islands, so they're above water.
You've probably read claims by people that the area is very shallow. Nonsense. There is a very narrow band of shallow water off the coast of Florida and stretching down the island chain. Just off of that there is a HUGE dropoff called the Bermuda Rise. In that area are some of the deepest parts of the Atlantic - the Puerto Rico trench.
| doomz wrote: |
| why those /accident missing planes or ships are missing without any trace? |
Planes and ships disappear without a trace lots of places around the world, especially when they're in water as deep as the water in that area. But most of the planes and ships claimed to be missing without a trace in that area are either not missing or they have found traces.
| doomz wrote: |
| at least they should find some of skeleton from the victims in the deep sea at Bermuda or some crashing part from accident of the plane or ship |
First of all, i don't think you fully grok just how deep most parts of the triangle are. Secondly, there really aren't that many lost ships and planes in that area. There are only a handful, actually. It's no great surprise that they haven't found a dozen or so missing ships/planes in an area that large that is that deep.
The Bermuda Triangle is a hoax.
C'mon sing it with me!:
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We decide to get away And have some fun Book a room and catch a flight For two weeks in the sun She says, "Hawaii's too expensive." I say, "Barbados isn't bad." She says, "I'd love to see Bermuda" And I say, "Woman, are you mad!" Bermuda Triangle It makes people disappear Bermuda Triangle Don't go too near But she Doesn't see my angle And she thinks I'm being dumb So Bermuda Triangle Here we come! Lying with my woman on The island sand I look up and see her with A stranger, hand in hand I see her sitting on his blanket I see them going for a swim And when I run to find my woman I find her running after him! Bermuda Triangle Makes my woman disappear Bermuda Triangle Dont' go too near Looking At it from my angle Do you see why I'm so sad Oh Bermuda Triangle Very bad! Lying lost and lonely on The island sand, When a lovely stranger says Hello and takes my hand And soon she's sitting on my blanket And then we're going for a swim When I say, "What about your boyfriend?" She turns and waves goodbye to him! Bermuda Triangle It makes people disappear Bermuda Triangle Don't go too near But look At it from my angle And you'll see why I'm so glad Now Bermuda Triangle Not so bad! Everybody Bermuda Triangle It makes people disappear Bermuda Triangle Don't go too near But look At it from my angle And you'll see why I'm so glad Now Bermuda Triangle Not so bad! |
all i know is my dad flew through it, and he's still alive. it's a hoax i think
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